Amazing coverage and honest thoughts. I'm happy they kept the manual. Will definitely test drive first. It keeps family/friends from constantly asking to borrow your truck every weekend as well.
It's a load of BS is what it is... it totally ruins the driving experience. Basically, the EPA and manufactures aren't SOLELY worried about fuel efficiency, they worry about emissions as well. When you quickly snap off the throttle, as you normally would during a shift, the air supply to the engine is cut off and the fuel entering the cylinders cant burn. This is bad, because unburnt fuel passes through the exhaust system. This is bad for the catallactic converter and its bad for the environment. To combat this, the computer is programmed to hold the throttle open partially until all the fuel in the cylinders is burnt up. This causes the RPMs to hang.
@@jacobshaw808Interesting take, but then why do not all other modern manuals (such as those found in modern sports cars) have such an annoying feature?
Kudos to Toyota for keeping the manual transmission alive. It's a skill not many folks have nowadays. I have an old Ranger with a manual and I've been teaching my kids how to drive a stick shift. The rev hang is because of emissions? I don't get it. If anything, it should be the opposite. What am I getting wrong here?
About that SR... So the SR has been announced to have leaf springs on the Double cab. Somewhere along the way, it was also mentioned that it has a smaller rear axle, but I guarantee you that the MT SR (with the same power spec as TRD MT trucks) gets the same bigger axle. That would make that one configuration (which will be comparatively rare compared to cheap fleet trucks) get a unique axle. There's also no cost savings in the SR MT. I'm itching to see the spec sheet at this point, because all this tells me that the SR MT could still get coil springs instead of leaves. Edit- the split between the smaller (likely same as current 8.something) and the bigger 9.5" axle happens further up- all hybrid models and MT TRD OR get the bigger axle, everything else gets the smaller axle.
@guenther… if it has same power rating than the higher trims but in the SR then the axle should be the same as well. And if that’s true then if down the road an aftermarket company develops a rear locker for the non-off-road type trims then it will fit the SR manuals while it will not the SR autos. Also most likely you can just swap the internal components of the rear diff of the SR manual with the OEM rear locker of an Off-road trim. You will not be able to do any of that if you get an SR with an auto. Same thing happened on the non-Rubicon Sport Jeep Wrangler JL. Autos come with weaker rear axle. Manual Sport comes with a Dana 44 axle same as on the Rubicon (much higher offroad oriented trim level).
If they did the sr Mt with the bigger axle and kept the towing rating the same as the higher trim models, I would 100% go with the base truck to save the 4k$
I noticed a lot of these new body on frame Toyotas haven’t improved in interior dimensions, staying similar if not the same as the previous version. Only exception is the LC250 with the longer wheelbase. I feel like it’s a missed opportunity that they didn’t add say 2 inches to the wheelbase and add it all to the rear legroom.
@@nissanzenkiboy What does it do exactly though? The last manual I had was a 02 CRV with poor shifter and clutch, so I have no idea about rev hang is. Wasn't this supposed to be a *feature of the new 6MT?
@@chrisx5127it's especially noticeable when quickly switching to another gear. The engine does not have enough time to drop revs before the clutch is released in the next gear, and so the transmission forces the engine revs down when the clutch is released, rather than the engine revs being able to naturally fall to the proper point right as the clutch is released for the next gear.
It maybe different for trucks and I doubt Toyota would say this, but I feel like an aftermarket tune could remove the rev hang. Probably voids the warranty and all that nonsense, but just a thought
It’s for emission and also helps protect from oil consumption. It’s annoying but you can get either get used to it which is not hard IMO. Or you can wait for custom tunes to become available and go that route. This reviewer is exaggerating imo. He is saying the 3rd gen shifts better even though that truck also has rev hang.
A manual transmission will outlast an automatic by hundreds of thousands of miles. You might have to put in a new clutch, but unlike an auto it won't die after some number of miles.
Toyota dealerships don’t really order a custom truck for you. You can go in and ask them to find you one which is either at some other nearby dealer in which case they can try to a dealership swap or they will look at whatever Toyota has scheduled to be built in your area and they can try to reserve that truck for you. A lot of dealerships are ******* though and tell you they don’t want your business because they want to sell you whatever is already on their lot or can have an easier time selling.
Sounds like the MT is a fail, which is a shame since I had this on my shortlist. If rev hang is a function of emissions regulation then there is nothing Toyota can do about it.
Don’t listen to this guy. Go test drive a truck or even a 3rd gen manual. He is saying the 3rd gen manual which also has rev hang was better than the auto but somehow it’s a problem for the new truck. He is fanboying over the 8 speed.
It depends what you're looking for. If you want v6 and better steering feel, get Frontier. Frontier will also be cheaper as initial Taco prices will be absurd.
Yeah, no I'll keep my 22' 3rd gen V6 naturally aspirated... Some of the improvements are nice but not happy about a turbo 4 banger in a truck... Reliability has decreased...
Back in the day, there were two basic reasons I’d get a manual transmission vehicle. They were always cheaper than automatics and got considerably better gas mileage. These days, neither is true anymore. Other than nostalgia, there’s no reason for manuals.
@MrBigBoy4Life There are plenty of maintenance service reasons to opt for the manual transmission. They are easier to fix!! Aka Maintenance friendly!!! They don't required expensive tooling!! You don't need an specialized overhaul shop to rebuild them. manuals transmission s have less part and they are cheaper when they do break. Normal service drain intervals are alot longer!
It may or may not flop but manual vids get tons of views (mostly from automatic drivers just daydreaming) and he's reviewed multiple trims of the new Taco so no shit he'd focus on the unique transmission in this vid.
