What makes it more impressive i think. Is how he looked over at Danaher, and kinda told him he was about to sweep him. I could be wrong, but the way he locked it in, and just with ease.
I feel like top level JJ doesn’t lend itself to a spectator sport a large portion of the time because at that level they neutralize each other too effectively
Similar to soccer. It's almost more entertaining to watch less skilled players compete, because they're filled with action and you rarely see stalemates.
That shoulder crunch butterfly sweep from Gordon was beautiful. That's why I love watching Gordon because he doesn't rush anything everything is done perfectly
C J you made a stupid comment on RU-vid and multiple people informed you of why you were wrong and what was actually going on (ribbed you a little bit) and rather then just be a mature adult show some humility, and laugh it off, you attempted to pull Jiu Jitsu rank on a stranger on the internet who you have absolutely no idea about. I hope to god you are better than this in real life.
Gentlemen, outstanding, knowledgeable commentating. You help one who wouldn't otherwise understand every nuance understand every nuance. Thank you, guys -- it made watching that match much more insightful and enjoyable.
It's interesting to see how Gordon couldn't just smash or control Buchecha like he does many of his other opponents-kind of refreshing to see him have to work hard for once. I feel that Buchecha played a safe game. It would good to see these guys rematch.
O ADCC precisa conhecer a luta livre brasileira é preciso um representante nosso nesse evento o bochecha pegou o pescoço do gordon teve a oportunidade de ajustar a pegada e simplesmente largou. Nos dá luta livre nunca desperdiçamos uma oportunidade dessas seria uma guilhotina no talo.
its like watch 2:15 . in mount look at gords head position thats where his weight is, buchecha initially trys to bridge into him but doesn't even have his right hand in as a frame, that would have been the easy way to slip the underhook, instead he bridges back the other way (where gordon can base out with his hand) and manages to shove gordons head so far out of position that he can slip the underhook. It's like his arm was in mechanically the weakest position possible -with his arm stretched overhead, and he still managed to just bridge and chest fly gordons bodyweight off of him
I love to grapple but I just have a hard time watching a 30 min match between the two best grapplers where there are no points scored. It's not just this match that's the problem.
The scoring system needs revamping. Ryan stalled every bit as much as Bucheca. There is a gross over emphasis on penalizing top players for stalling when in reality the guard is, was and always will be used for exactly that. Would love to see more penalties going against the bottom guy.
The penalty was because Buchecha didn't engage into Gordon's guard, Buchecha kept stepping back or remained inactive. This was the cause of the penalty. When Buchecha laughs with Gordon during the attempted leglock, it is because those are the techniques they learned at Renzos during Danahers class, you even see Gordon look over at Danaher and smiles at him.
Buchecha has been doing leglocks for his entire carreer, he should go to kill but instead he made that smile like he was playing with gordon weapons... i really dont understand the perfomance of buchecha in this match.
Love watching this stuff, no experience in it whatsoever, just find it really interesting..... i find no-gi sub only so much more interesting and fun to watch...... they take more chances
@C J And what exactly do you win for being "right"? More power to you if you enjoy his matches, me personally, I much prefer to watch guys like JT Torres.
innertubez it wasn’t basically a draw. Ryan dominated the fight. He can’t make his opponent engage. Even when Ryan’s opponent got standing back position he did nothing to advance the position. Nothing. When he got Gordon’s back he backed out out of it. Dude was passive.
No one wants to win off of a single penalty, but that's what happens with top level talent. The margins are so razor thin you will rarely get a blow out. I am the biggest hater when it comes to modern jj tactics, but neither one of them played the butt-scoot, upside down, or stall game. It was very technical, but they are also both very good.
2:12 Watched this back in 2021 (a few months after I seriously returned to training) and it's been my go to setup and sweep since. I'm a fresh purple belt but, even back as a blue, I was sweeping browns and even a black belt with this exact setup, when I first started using it. It really is as easy as Gordon makes it look when applied correctly.
@@psychedelicgulag it's basically just the shoulder crunch sweep but the arm is pinned on top of the shoulder kind of like an arm crush submission. Both legs are in for butterfly hooks but, Buchecha knows which direction Gordon is trying to take him so he posts his leg out and stays heavy on the opposite side. Gordon, utilizing his mastery of the concept of Kuzushi, uses his right butterfly hook to elevate and extend Buchechas leg, upsetting his base to such a degree that made elevation with his left leg for the sweep as easy as breathing.
I’d like to see a match between these two being fresh... Each one had fought seven matches that weekend before this match, and I don’t see to Buchecha at the 60% of himself
Kind Citizen That's Buchechas problem. If you know you're going in to the division with 7+ matches, you have to be diligent of your energy expenditure.
Javi Elbal I agree. Being 7 months of lcl reconstruction, having food poisoning, and having a broken hand didn’t help. I also had 1 more match than him that weekend up until this point because he lost in the semis and didn’t fight for 3rd
Amazing match. Never realized Gordon Ryan was that big physically. I've also never seen a Gordan Ryan match where his opponent wasn't afraid of being submitted at any second of the match. Extremely technical although Ryan kept setting up those arm drag-leg attacks made me wonder why B never went for a redrag until later 24:16. The best part of the match was 28:55 not for just the irony, but the fact that Ryan could laugh at it. Didn't read the comments till the end cuz I had no idea how this was gonna end.
@@GeotouuotoeG no because the pioneers of leg locks the danaher death squad was way too ahead of the game at that time trying to leg lock Gordon here would’ve been impossible lol
Decepcionado com a vontade de lutar do Bochecha, cara tava morno, parece que estava só sobrevivendo a luta. Com todo respeito o Gordon mostrou mas vontade de ganhar e mereceu a vitória. E aquela raspagem que o Gordon fez, foi sinistra. Oss
Cara o que acho é que o Buchecha digamos sente um pouco a pegada do ADCC que e um evento que é realizado se não me engano em um dia categoria e absoluto é um campeonato duro de altíssimo nível e extremamente desgastante e acho que esse último fator ai pesa pro Buchecha ja tinha reparado isso no ADCC 2017 quando ele ja tava baleado no absoluto fez uma guerra com o Xande e depois lutou com o Preguiça e foi finalizado nessa luta ele ja estava nitidamente exaurido assim como nessa luta com o Gordon e o Buchecha mudou fisicamente desde que apareceu ali pro grande cenario do Jiu mundial em 2012 nesse tempo ele pesava por volta de 105 Kg e tinha uma movimentação incrível pra categoria o cara metia uns giros absurdos hj ele ta pesando por volta de 115 Kg e isso influi bastante na performance no rendimento msm esse ganho todo tenha sido a maior parte de massa magra isso oxigena muito levando assim ao cansaço e a fadiga de forma mais rápida.
Well done Flo. I say bad things about you when you suck, so now is the need to say Bravo. The jiu jitsu community will increase and get better thanks to all the great content you have been sharing these past few weeks.
I wanted to see that sweep in slow-mo so I changed the playback speed to 0.25 and watched from 2:12 - 2:25, it makes the commentator sound like he's had one too many. I need to do this more often.
@@Lithian123at this time, gordon ryan was well known as someone very good at leg locks, and Buchecha wasn’t ever really known for it, but as a last ditch effort he figured he might as well try it, and Gordon laughed at him 😂
Thank you flo we all need this videos matches in this hard times, but in russia you can watch ADCC level competition in every national wrestling events.
"I would love to see sub only"... said everyone without a job, wife, children, or anything else that would impede them from watching a week long grappling match.
hj o jiu -jitsu está assim ... o cara é campeão sem ter nem passado a guarda .. aliás sem fazer nenhum ataque ... ai pe FODA NÉ ... deeveria ser por finalização SEM TEMPO ... ai sim seria JIU - JITSU !!!
I don't get it... The commentator didn't even explain from where comes that negative 1.... They just said oh Buchecha just hot a negative 1... But didn't explain for what...
They could easily fuck up most black belts. I can't even imagine going against those guys. Must be like falling into a deep ball pit with an anchor attached to your ankle.
Since we need to justify our positions by saying a fallacy argument first, let me preface this by saying I am not a fan of Gordon. Now that we have that covered let’s get to the point. Gordon Ryan won this match .he didn’t win on a rule or favoritism or any other convoluted means of the system. His opponent literally stalled for 3/4 of the fight and backed out of almost every dangerous position. I can count on one hand with one finger (my middle) how many times his opponent was aggressive. Literally the last 45 seconds ish of the fight. Be passive for 32 mins and active for 45 seconds. What a great philosophy. It’s a Christmas miracle he wasn’t called for 3 more negatives. Watch the fight as a fan of the sport not a fanatic for one individual.
Because he has a demonstraly higher submission ratio than all the other top competitors? Also, you can't disregard the fact it's hard to finish someone that wants to play the points game during the finals of a world tournament.
@@odddzy it is. But he doesn’t destroy too competition in BJJ and he’s been beaten a fair few times. So why isn’t he using his A game against the guys who are beating him?
@@coldworld5 everyone loses, Galvao, Roger Gracie, even Marcelo, what's your point? By that standerd nobody can claim to be the best because they've all been beaten at some point or another by someone else.
Because no one really plays the system of jiu-jitsu like he does. Even after buchecha saw the sweep setup and got swept, he felt Gordon’s BJJ technique and strength all in one motion. That and the fact that Gordon’s mat IQ is very developed at this point, he definitely has spent time studying his opponents and their movements long enough to make the best decision at the best time possible. I’m not a super huge Gordon fan, but you can clearly see who is engaging and you can’t deny numbers. Gordon likes jiu jitsu for the sport it is. Controlling the opponent and finding a submission. Personally I think Lachlan Giles or Marcelo in his prime would’ve had a fair chance against Ryan, and I say fair because they are not as tall as him, if Marcelo was Gordon’s height, he would’ve been the Gordon Ryan of his era and maybe would’ve gotten even more taps. Lachlan has the system down pretty well too, but to be honest I don’t think no one smaller than Gordon will tap him considering his skill level. His true only threat today would be Craig, size most definitely heavily matters at the top of the leagues.
Só essa puxada de cervical q o Gordon mantem ja faz 50% do trabalho. Sistema nervoso do adversario vai quebrando ate o cara perder força agilidade e vontade de lutar
@@avancedmaster ele não desgruda nunca da cervical irmão. Sempre mantem a puxada forte, e todos lutadores falam que ele tem uma força de rinoceronte nos braços.
I think Buchecha could have started his agressive passing game much sooner. I respect that he went all out to pass at the end, but he could have done it sooner. I think Gordon mainly played defense, and Buchecha was the one trying to advance the most. He did seem to get a bit lazy with giving him the arm for the sweep.
@@gordonryan3494 I was talking about submission atempts. Buechecha had top and was trying to pass. I think the both of you had more in you. Too much respect.
I wacth some of these matches and I wonder "do u as a child get up one morning and decide to be jiu jitsu champ?" it's remarkable that they found their calling very early and are great at it.
ADCC is supposed to favour wrestling as much as jits, but Gordon had a great strategy here. Play guard, do some ok attempts at sweeping and force the opp to get tired trying to pass, and if they don't: Penalty. I can't say I was impressed by the match we'd all been waiting for but it took some super high level guard retention and threats to keep a beast like Buchecha at bay.
Coming from the UFC/MMA background, when I see Gordon just pull guard like that and basically the opponent is forced to attack (due to the ruleset) it just doesn't sit well with me. It's a great strategy to win but the mere fact that he has to do that, idk, rubs me the wrong way even if it's effective.
ArisenMind I get what you mean but thing is with Gordon, he does it not to force his opponent to attack, if his opponent doesn’t attack Gordon inches his way little by little to a more favorable position where he can set up a submission or sweep or take the back, hence why many opponents decide to back out. Gordon is like Marcelo Garcia 2.0 being that he is bigger and taller, and that he wants to engage or set something up all the time. He also has great technical efficiency, so I’m sure he studies his opponents heavily prior to competition and the more time you spend with him on the mat, he keeps getting better as he studies you and feels out your weight, balance, strength, etc. Not a huge Gordon fan due to his sometimes cocky attitude however I do respect it because clearly he is talented at the sport and I like guys who prefer winning by submission rather than using the point system, at the end of the day that is the goal of jitsu, to dominate and submit.
It's rather astonishing how No-Gi only peeps say Gi matches are boring. Most of these No-Gi matches - nothing happens. This match had one sweep and that's it. The rest is a bunch of walking around and head pulling. Apart from some cool Gary Tonon matches,, the vast majority of ADCC matches were a bust. And ADCC is meant to be the cream of the crop for No-Gi.
@@ethanbirch7033 A subjective penalty tho? That's not exactly definitive. If a blue belt went against buchecha and buchecha did something crazy and got DQ'd it doesn't mean the blue belt is better. This was a draw if anything
As a person who doesn’t do JJ but has done other sports, all I see is a hugging session for almost the whole time. It’s going to be hard to get JJ mainstream if all they do is hug for most of the time.
Exactly! I'm like "should I be excited or what?" Much respect but they would have to change up some of the rules if this sport will ever become mainstream
I remember training with Buchecha and Cavaca in Santos and I remember Buchecha was absolutely massive. He bicep curled my armbar. He bicep curled. an armbar. I was 14 but still. Seeing him on a small screen is much less scary