Marriage Be Hard Podcast | Kirk & Tammy Franklin 

Kirk: I’m sorry y’all for cussing Tammy: Everybody know you cuss Me: 😂😂😂😂

Can we take a moment to acknowledge the vocabulary used in this episode?!😭 I love it!!

This was amazing! I feel like I just went to a comedy club, church and a marriage counselor! 😮😊

Listen, I’m not married, not in a relationship, not dating…I’m not even sure if I still like men🤦🏾‍♀️ but this interview was so insightful and fun! I love when people can be vulnerable and raw, especially us Christian folks.

This is SOOOOO GOOOODDDD First of all, I can listen to Kirk all day. He is filled with so much wisdom and he and Tammy are just so honest and real.

Kirk giving Kevin ammunition to cuss😂😂

Wow. When Kirk said “Marriage was never second nature for me. Work was second nature. I fell into family,” I felt this on my SOUL. Wow. I’m the one in the marriage that has a million things going on at any one time because, as he said, “ideation is in my DNA.” Marriage is work for me because I didn’t have a model for it growing up, whereas my husband did. Phew. So good.

“You said you were impressed with me, go back to that part” Tammy is hilarious 🤣🤣

I am so excited for this series! I got my notepad ready! 📖✍️ My husband and I just celebrated our first year of marriage! 🥰🎉

I’ve been married for 6 yrs now and even though I have decent amount of people in my family who have been married for 20 plus years, they never would sit down with myself and my cousins and just talk to us openly as a couple. I’ve seen them angry and talking down about one another but never as a united front. So as a wife now I’ve been working and fighting alongside my husband to make sure we do it the right way, and it’s so refreshing to be able to watch a conversation like this that is full of so much love laughter and wisdom between husbands wives who are doing the work and showing up as a united front.

The adjective to describe how good this is has not yet been created. 🔥 As I’ve said for a long time, Kev and Melissa, your platforms are a collective, unorthodox ministry in a league of its own.

It’s crazy how much this conversation has mirrored so many of the early Love Hour conversations! You all are so similar! Beautiful couples & a beautiful conversation!

Thank you all a million times! 54yr old and married for 32years. This gives me words to go with the feelings! #healthymarriage

Listennn...as a single woman still affirming at 46 that I am a wife and a mother, I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and look forward to watching the others. It's so easy to get caught up in the fantasy and romance of it all when you haven't experienced it yet, so I'm always telling my married friends not to give me the churchy, Christianese packaged version but keep it real, raw with mud, dirt and worms! 😄

Y'all have definitely found your niche this is going to be a hit. I'm excited to hear all the interviews you guys have lined up.

This was NEEDED! As a single woman it was sobering, inspirational, exciting, encouraging. It was ALL THE THINGS! I needed this! I loved this! It made being Christian a lighter space, it made waiting for marriage a more joyous place, and it made the goal of marriage realistic as opposed to a fairy tale. Thank y'all so much for this! I CAN NOT WAIT for the book!

I needed Every Part of this. Thank you Kev, Melissa, Tammie, and Kirk for your honesty.

This convo feels like marriage… the feminine and masculine perspective the laughs the seriousness it’s the building of one another service to one another that gets you through, marriage is beautiful it’s crazy how we live in different spaces different years of marriage but have many of the same struggles I am not a star but I function in the same manor. This was so good…

as a single woman this has been very insightful probably one of the best podcast eps that ive heard in while WELL DONE BOTH COUPLES

I thoroughly enjoyed this. I love how authentic Tammy and Kirk are. We need more of this.

Kirk Franklin is a wise man. I love his transparency and honesty. Kirk was spot on, people look at how long people are together and not the health of their relationship. GEMS💎💎💎❤️

I love that she acknowledged that people are obsessed with how LONG someone has been married but they don’t take the time to actually THINK for themselves about whether the marriage is healthy or not. I think people believe lies about marriage and one is that length of marriage somehow guarantees health. People really need to start thinking for themselves for once. Sounds harsh but peoples u willingness to question what they’ve been taught is leading to their failure and them also teaching others terrible concepts that aren’t actually helpful.

This was…..wow!!!!!! It’s up there with the Tab & Chance Love Hour podcast interview. Top 3 couple interviews for sure!!! The parallels between y’all, the transparency, the inspiration, THE BEAUTY!!! 😍😍😍 Allllll the thiiiiiiings!!!! I thought I would multitask while listening, but this was mesmerizing. I couldn’t take my eyes off. 😩 Thank y’all for this! Can’t wait for my book to arrive. 📖❤️

Okay but I want a whole show/series of you and the Franklins talking about the book. More. I need a 6-part series.

When Kev said “danger , she smashed the homie”. . . Memories of my childhood and the Love of Ray J popped in my mind 😂😂😂

I love the vulnerability. Christians can be so uptight it's crazy. Love this!

Oooh when Tammy spoke about getting into the psyche and emotion of a man and learning his ways but not getting it in return. Ugh that hit home. That has always been my problem in my past relationships and dating and I’ve always assumed it was me simply picking the wrong men but to know that it can still be an obstacle to work through even in a marriage is really eye opening. This is so good and I’m definitely going to continue to watch more episodes and I’m buying the audiobook. ❤️

I was HYPED when I woke up and got the notification for the audiobook AAAAND the email that my "Marriage Be Hard" book is ON THE WAY!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 I am SOOOO EXCITED to listen to the audiobook TUH-DAY when I get home!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

When I say Mrs. Tammy is an entire force to be reckoned with!! I love her quick wit, intelligence, and realness and Uncle Kirk’s great wisdom, emotional intelligence, and comfortability in her flourishing. And Kev and Melissa, always so generous, genuine, and insightful with us. I pray their reward is even more than the priceless chemistry and relationship being cultivated between them and the Franklins😊

Y’all know I’m wit the stagekrew. And I wanna say. This is one of the many reasons why I follow y’all. It’s healthy conversation and black love all in wrapped up in one.

I'm learning from my own life experiences that being single was something that I had to experienced with God and myself that church haven't taught me. I'm 54 and believe that I more ready for marriage than my younger years.

This conversation was too good for words. The chemistry between the hosts Kev & Liss and the guests Kirk & Tammy is crazy. It didn't feel "interviewy" at all but a good conversation between old friends. The way they relate to each other with similar great life & marriage experiences that bring out wisdom. This was so beautiful guys. I've always loved Tammy but in this conversation I LOVEDDDDDD her. Liss found her twin she was like "this is me" so cute. Well done, looking forward to more conversations.

This was the most real faith based marriage conversation I have ever seen! This was absolutely amazing!! This is MINISTRY!!! Kudos!!!!

Kirk preached a whole word and then some: "Welcome to church, no human allowed"

My husband and I just finished watching this after tears of constant laughter. I married him at 21 and it's been 18 years and we truly enjoyed listening to all of you. We can relate on ALL of this. Thanks for being so transparent. That's my favorite part.

Sooo amazing to see/hear how marriage sanctifies and keeps people safe! How God puts 2 people together as a circuit breaker for when possibly sinful traits are getting too much - e.g. selfishness, or tuning out others' feelings/thoughts. You always have to come back to your wife when work is over - and exercise that muscle of selflessness that got weak in the workplace!!!

Although I am single, I am soo grateful for this series. In all thy getting, get understanding. I appreciate the transparency, vulnerability, and humor expressed by both couples. Tfs

OMG I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS CONVERSATION! I don’t know why at 49 yrs of age and still single, God is drawing me to these marriage podcasts. I absolutely love you guys! My single self will be buying the book tuday!

This interview was absolute gold. I was interested all the way thru. I smiled, I laughed, I eared teared up, I agreed; it was a gamut of emotions. A well of knowledge that overflowed. This was excellence.

This conversation is a GAME CHANGER!! First of all, Kirk and Tammy, THANK YOU for being so real (down to the cussin' cuz that's real)! I'm thrilled that so many married church folks are talking about marriage in this very REAL way. We have to shatter the fairytale! There's an idea that marriage is no longer relevant or desired but there are many of us out here who still desire marriage and NEED these kinds of real conversations! I can't thank you all enough.

I am in tears because of the humor, the honesty and transparency, the gems being dropped and the experiences.

This was sooooooo goooood! The way in which Kirk and Tammy allowed each the other the space to talk and listened. I loved how Kirk kept redirecting to a God centered view and when he spoke about his vision in worship about how he sees people arriving at the gate to meet Jesus was just beautiful and so true. We don’t arrive perfect we get there because of the endurance of what we have been through and through Him we are made perfect on that day. This interview was was excellent.

That “you seen me putting lotion on my legs “ made me real life holler out laughing….so real😂😂😂

These conversations are so needed. As a single woman, I listened to help prepare me for my marriage. Thank you!

Immediately followed Tammy after this interview. I’m ecstatic she found her voice.

Liss: I am married to a kite. I am perpetually the string. The conversation about the broken off switch and selfishness resonated with me in ways I cannot put into words. (16 years in the game)

OH MY GOD!!! This soooo sounds like my marriage. We are at 22 years and MARRIAGE IS HARD!!!! I tell people all the time, it's easy to say I want to get married, but are you a person who will work or a person who quit and give up all the time, because marriage is work, grass is not greener on this side. AMEN! I LOVE THIS MESSAGE!!!! I RECEIVE EVERYTHING YOU ALLL HAD TO SAY. YES I AM SCREAM, BECAUSE THIS HIT MY SOUL!!

This interview was soooo good. I kept pausing to go share the discussion with my husband throughout the whole show.

Melissa is a gem! ❤️ Loved Tammy and Kirk Franklin. Positive, uplifting, good heart. Thank you so much .

You’re doing great work for the black community including for those of us in the diaspora.

I swear this is a moment of deliverance for so so many of us. Especially black people who have never seen married people in Christ, who are honest and transparent. We’ve seen the divorces, the adultery, the resentment and also the Instagram pics but never REAL people who are still in the ring. So grateful for this episode. God bless these two unions.

I made it for the premiere, but we still REWATCH GANG GANG out here!!

OMG!! This is one of the best interviews I have seen you all do. And to think, I didn’t think y’all could top the Tab & Chance interview. I never knew much about Tammy, but I love her now!

Loved this conversation! My husband and I have been married for 25 years. I so appreciate you sharing the evolution that happens in marriage.

I don't have the energy to go into the details, but I want to say that even though marriage is not in my future, this was deeply healing to me in a number of ways. Our God is so gracious.

Wives tend to view Husband on Stage how Husbands view Wife on the Pole: it pays the bills but it requires sharing a portion of the person the spouse doesn’t want to share

This conversation was EVERYTHING!!! The transparency and vulnerability that all of displayed has given me a new perspective on marriage. I think if I heard these things before I probably wouldn’t be divorced..God’s peace and blessings to all of you.

When Kev said, "Ballerinas have bloody toes." I cried. Thank you all for having this sit down, and sharing it with us. This was right on time. Just got the book. Excited to dive in!

Love. Love this! Love the intention, honesty. My husband and I have been married 31 yrs and wish we had this when we were going thru. The help its going to give newly married couples will be great if they listen and take the advice. As a "Christian " and going to couples retreats was never like this and the truth was never told! The older couples thar were married 45-50 yrs only told you don't give up when it gets hard, pray and you'll make it thru. So keep up the good work and open and honest conversation! Blessed

BOL “we heard the tape”. Omg I spit my water out.

Wow…my husband says the same thing about giving me everything God forbid we separate. In my eyes, he’s Superman & always has been! ❤️

This was so NECESSARY! I loved every moment every word and every laugh. This is INCLUSIVITY at its finest!

I told the church when I 1st was baptized that Being a Christian is hard...preach!

This episode is sooopp GOOD!! 😆🤣🤣🤣 “where DA LOTION AT!???!!!!” Kirk is a whole mess!!!! And love how they’re just being transparent and real. And not being fake!

I like how Malissa’s dress matches the back ground.😂. But this so insightful and funny 😆

I still aspire to be married and your podcasts and book has really helped me and it has helped me communicate better in my new relationship

Wheeeewww this was so powerful and necessary. Thank you for this!

This was a blessing. Thanks so much, all 4 of you!

The uncomfortable looks on the guys faces are priceless. Lol!!

Love the conversation it's so needed in our community. 💙

I'm so here for this!!!! Love all of you!❤❤❤❤

First off, CONGRATULATIONS on the book.. And this interview is everything!!! As a woman who has been married twice and now in the dating world over 50 this is giving me life... I have the same sentiments MARRIAGE BE HARD!! So kudos to yall for being transparent and letting the world know being in a CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE be hard...

This was amazing!! All 4 of you were dropping gem after gem left, right and centre. Thank you for continuing to inspire us black folk ❤❤

this is great! seeing heallthy and REAL conversations about marriage.

This was soooo good!! I am so excited for the rest of the series.

Had so many aha moments and periods of understanding! Thank you for doing this! This conversation was so needed!!

This was absolutely wonderful! Thank you for the Fredricks and Franklins for your candidness and transparency. ❤

This was so good, amazing, and everything. Marriages needs these kinds of conversations. It's encouraging and validating.

This was beyond wonderful and did necessary. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

This was a phenomenal episode! So much in it! So glad y’all didn’t stop at 1 hour!

This is so great! Congratulations Fredricks!

We're almost at 20 years, too. I'll be 40 in March. I am Tammy and Melissa. My husband is older so it's very tough for him. He'll be ok 😂😂😂.

Thank you all for these videos. I subscribed because of conversations like this! Please keep this series going. It is very much needed

This convo was such a blessing! Yall keep it up!! ❤

Amazing amazing amazing! I truly enjoyed this and can’t wait for the other episodes.

This was so amazing...loved every minute. I even listed to the whole audio book in one day of Marriage Be Hard today. So well done.

This was one of the best conversations I’ve heard in a long time!!! Job well done!!!

This was powerfulllll! Congratulations Kev and Lis on the book!

These conversations give me hope when it comes to marriage! God bless you all for being open and honest.

Absolutely amazing interviews. So many much-needed topics of discussion

This was so relatable and needed! Thank you for being transparent.

this was so needed. It’s really indescribable!!!! Thank you for your honesty ❤

Such a beautiful convo! Watched this with such a smile on my face. Marriage be graceful...🥰🥰

O my goodness yalllll are speaking and preaching and telling ALL the TRUTH!!!!!! Thank you for the real real!!

This was absolutely great, I’m looking forward to the other interviews. Good job Liss & Kevin

What a very enlightening episode! Thank you all for being so transparent.

The candid was amazing, one of the best podcast episodes of the year for me. I will share it with everyone I know. Married and single. Thank you. So so much.

This conversation was real and so truthful. Appreciate all of you for sharing your lives and advice. Blessings to you all.

This was so needed. Thank you for all of your vulnerability and truthfulness.

This was so amazing!! Thank you all for sharing wisdom and being transparent, may you all continue to be successful ❤️