Marvel’s X Men Start Killing Everyone 

I mean it's happening everyday irl, world hunger could be solved within a month or two of selflessness but people are selfish and scared to be the change. Similarly, I wouldn't expect the Avengers to pivot for me unless it benefited them But just as a real world audience I agree, I wanna see more hero solidarity. A taste of it with Peter isn't satisfying to me

@@nailinthefashion That's less a in universes problem and more out of universes. Unless the character are under the same titel , hero's have to handle problems alone.

​@@nailinthefashionthat argument makes no sense, because the avengers and X-Men are definitely friends most of the time, and the avengers are most definitely selfless. You can't compare the real world and comics without first acknowledging decades of stories that shows that how very different both sides are. It's more believable to say that they are busy and they are. Hulk is useless and a hermit again. Iron man is broke. Thor is fighting old gods. Spider-Man is fighting in a gang war. Black widow and Cap are actually helping and if mutants heads weren't so far up their butts maybe they wouldn't be in this situation.

@@hellblaze10 yes and no. I don't think the Avengers need to get named to be referenced in an Xmen run but there's probably some sort of branding choice to make the titling clear as you mentioned, because at the end of the day the Xmen need to fix their own problem. That's why I really enjoy things like Empyre or Secret Wars because it feels like a big Marvel party.

@@blackhand441 I think canonically literally everyone is busy you're right but it still feels like if they weren't they'd be prioritizing their human-y politics over Krakoan. I don't think they'd be mean about it just not understand the gravity of the shifting And you're also right about Natasha and Steve being on the right side of history this time. Lord knows Steve can be super misguided and need a lil mind wipe

​@@DaveHood-xd9uidon't, waste of time and money

God I wish he was portrayed like that in the movies and not a vanilla tool for wolverine to fuck with

I would be biased with a war against all of humanity but this Earth is on orchis side and they have no intention of ever coexisting with mutants but only with there own kind I guess this is understandable but only the future is going to determine if this will turn out for the better or for the worst😢

But, he has no pp. 😣

Wow so many bots..

Any red haired clone could talk him into anything. Lol

Although his mutant power allows him to destroy whatever he looks at, his true strength had been developed by having to learn control and figure out ways other ways to accomplish his goals using his intellect. Love seeing him like this

Except he's not, and always fails, or abandons his wives, like a trash person. You're obviously a scumbag as well.

I would be biased with a war against all of humanity but this Earth is on orchis side and they have no intention of ever coexisting with mutants but only with there own kind I guess this is understandable but only the future is going to determine if this will turn out for the better or for the worst😢

Prof X can stop everyone if they stop nerf him.

That would be so sweet, I really like that

That was my interpretation when I read the comic. Once the mutants are eradicated, the machines would no longer require humans and will turn against them. As you mentioned, this concern was raised in Inferno. Even the post-humans, like the Children of Tomorrow (cyborgs), acknowledged the potential threat posed by machines, particularly the Phalanx and the Machine Dominion. The Four Sinisters aimed to avoid this future, each seeking to achieve Dominion first to defeat the machines, driven by the paranoia of the original Nathaniel Essex. This underscores the overarching theme of the Krakoa era: the conflict between organic life forms and artificial intelligence/the struggle between living beings and machines. And since humanity produces mutants, they are next.

You are absolutely correct! Karima and Nimrod plan to destroy not only the mutants but also the humans. That's their endgame.

@@maryse8 Claissic X Men TAS logic: Humans are mutants

Exactly

Honestly I can't help but agree idk why everybody has to be so selfish but Charles' negotiations were kookoo bananas

How can robots even hate?

@@ambrosia_123 I dont think they "hate" them in the traditional sense. They are programmed to be hostile to mutants and they see humans and mutants as the same thing. Its like a person with a disability is still a person. They cannot act on this programmed aggression until a human develops a mutation though but through simple logic it is only a matter of time before the humans begin mutating again. Therefore humans are subject to their programmed aggression as well. Another perspective is they are built in the image of man and while the "hate" they are programmed with is not felt in the same way internally the same as a human feels the emotion, outwardly it looks the same because they were built and programmed in the image of man.

@@kuyt3400 so then is it the flaw of the programmer? Is it nature? Sentinels are a cannon event as someone will create them. Programming them to form conclusions seems to be the flaw.

mutants are humans so ya your spot on. the machines see no difference because they are purely logical.

Correct. Several things about Rob's recollection of the events seem to be off, including of this very comic, but you're spot on. Memories have to be backed up, and the moment of a mutant's death is often not backed up because it's unexpected (before the next scheduled backup) or they're out of range (like in the case of the assault on the Orchis Forge). This is also not a declaration of war on humanity, this is the X-Men, mutants and allies taking the war to Orchis openly.

Its not even him, just a simulacrum… anyone revived while having some of the memories of the deceased , as you said if not backed up, are lost so they are copied and could be copied while alive .. Ergo anyone revived is literally just a simulacrum of the dead original..

@@WeAreInYourWall Agreed. That's the one thing I think they missed tightening up with the way The 5's powers contributed to bringing their clones online. Going by the 5 specifically, they could have established that Proteus's contribution was actually warping reality in a way that connected their true essence (their astral self, spirit or soul) to the physical clone body when the telepath inserts the memories. That would have been a solid reason for not activating multiple clones too, as any other would be an empty homunculus (subject to possession by demons) while the first had the true essence. Elsewhere (and I'll spare all that extra detail) I posted that a different 5 mutants should have also been in operation whose job was to traverse the afterlife of various pantheons and underworlds to retrieve or negotiate for dead mutants' souls. It wouldn't have even been weird for X-Men stories since they've often linked Mutant energies to Mystic energies, have several characters who lost and regained all or parts of their souls, and have characters linked to various transition realms - Magik, Pixie, Madeline Pryor (Limbo), Dani Moonstar (Valhalla), Nightcrawler, Azazel, Strong Guy (heaven and hell realms). Even Wicked stores spirits and the Psychic Plane is connected or adjacent to the Astral Plane mystics often traverse. It would have made at least one interesting side story as one or more realm's leadership takes offense at them taking back souls they had rights to, and/or they eventually had to establish and manage their own afterlife. Admittedly, Scarlet Witch's Waiting Room kinda serves as that now, so maybe the process is improved by that. It's also ironic that they had the Spark story for Legion of X, and now stories with the White Hot Room which could have also played into that concept. Barring that, yep, they're all really elaborate clones of the originals who died.

And my concise version: along with a Sacred Circuit of 5 for Resurrection (Hope, Elixir, Egg, Tempo and Proteus), there should have been another Sacred 5 for Soul Retrieval (Jean, Magik, Pixie, Wicked and Nightcrawler) using Limbo, the White Hot Room, Wicked and/or Legion's mindscape to manage their own afterlife awaiting resurrection. And I'm all about solutions, not just spotting flaws: they can still do a mini-series or one-shot (or even touch on it in the upcoming Dead X-Men) addressing the need to connect the originals' souls to their cloned bodies and inserted memories.

I think the only way to deal with him, Hulk, or Juggernaut would be to yeet them in to space to chill out lol or teleportation. Would need to be an omega level telekinetic to physically stop em

The last time I saw Colossus THIS pissed was in the Morlock tunnels during the original Mutant Massacre when he snapped Riptide's neck, he said, "pray to your gods, little man, because your are NEXT!!!" THIS AIN'T A FUCKING GAME, DOG!!!

Damn that seems pretty important

Don't forget Mystique attemping to kill him, caused him to lose his humanity. So this whole Era is her fault

I think Rob covered that bit in a previous video. Might be wrong but I recall it. Might've been dopespill..

@@recycledsoul5908 I'm absolutely sure he did, just seems worth mentioning for people new to what's going on and as a simple reminder of her significance. She's smart as hell and not someone to take lightly.

It's minor information at best. Not relevant to what was being discussed here, but worth a quick sidenote sure.

so this version of Nimrod was created when Dr. Alia uploaded her husbands consciousness into the machine so yeah it's more human than previous versions that have shown up

Right, because they pulled their punches so often in the past. Yall dick eat so hard it's sad.

magneto was right all along

I got that t shirt!

Let’s fkg go bro. Let’s fkg go!!!

lol fact lets go.

"before walking away from the Eternal who judged him worthy" That is a Celestial, not an Eternal.

Who's "she?"

@@angelm365his wife Jean Grey

@@amythistxue1 that is scary. "I am FIRE MADE FLESH, POWER INCARNATE!" Or whatever she says 🤣 💀

i picked up on that immediately because not only i read the comic but also because i am watching the video and i am seeing it is Dr Stasis, the same with the warning being directed towards Omega and not Dr Gregor, i wish Rob could realize that he makes mistakes and acknowledge them, but no he just keeps on going like nothing happens or no one noticed, it its getting more frequent and it is starting to be annoying, oh well, anyway it is nice to see someone else calling him on his bs (like the time in sins of sinister Rob said that Summernight had become a drunk, he really pulled that one out of his behind and never corrected it)

@@liquidtrick187 My guess is that he reads fast, doesn't take time to process what he reads, and jumps to biased conclusions to go make a video as soon as possible. The comic was released today, he read it once then recorded the video then editing and bam it's here almost instantaneously. Gotta feed the channel and the Algorithmic Gods (Dominion via RU-vid).

you are right, man i do miss the good old days when it was all about the audience and not the algorith, it is just that in these video he made some mistakes, first being Dr stasis, second the omega one, third saying that Rasputin IV can teleport like nightcrawler or not, then the audacity of saying that in sins of sinister they shot the juggernaut through krakoa, at that point he was just regurgitating nonsense, cheers mate and thanks for the reply@@tithannisk7470

Yeah that’s a huge issue. I’ve noticed this happening more and more sadly.

​@@tithannisk7470He must have also skimmed most of the stuff leading into these events too. So much is off with his explanations here. 1. Even the title: Mutants aren't going to war with humanity, they're going to war with Orchis. 2. Cyke was directing his question to Omega Sentinel implying the machines will turn on humans next. 3. Cyke couldn't be backed up at the moment of his death because he was out of range, so whatever memories that were stored before going on that mission were all that could be restored. He doesn't need to be an absolute expert on every aspect of every comic, but if he's presenting himself as the explainer of this, one of the biggest stories of Marvel in the last decade, one would think he'd have been paying attention to what was actually going on.

Wakanda rejected the mutant drugs, portals, et al was because of Namor breaking their unbeaten streak during the AvsX run by flooding the place. T'challa annulled his marriage to Storm, and Wakanda has since adopted a staunchly anti-mutant stance that would make Genosha blush.

Ultron was locked up and only just got came back in Avengers INC

Colossus not being magnetic is touch-and-go. In the first interaction of the new team of X-Men (the one from 1975) against Magneto, the latter did use his magnetic powers against Colossus. He even did it more than once. I would argue that there are more instances of Colossus being magnetic than not.

​@@tithannisk7470not a good argument, Magneto's power is basically telekinesis over anything metal until it isn't.

@@blackhand441 That's not magnetism, now is it?

@@zufalllx exactly

@@blackhand441 him being « the Master of Magnetism » is not an argument ? It’s a way better argument than « it’s basically telekinesis until it isn’t » which can mean anything that is convenient at the moment.

Kind of. It's Dr. Stasis.

You are correct, he misspoke. It happens, it'll happen again.

Rob has the whole saga on his playlist. Has house and powers of X, of swords, inferno, then A.X.E, X lives and deaths of wolverine, sins of sinesster, and fall of X … and this video

@@stevo-kun3924 I know. But I need to read all of it. Days of Future Past, The Phoenix Saga, Dark Phoenix Saga, Deadly Genesis, Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire, Fall of the Mutants, Mutant Massacre, X-Men vs Apocalypse, Operation Zero Tolerance, Messiah Complex, Necrosha, New X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, Curse of the Mutants, Schism, Phoenix Warsong, Phoenix Endsong, Phoenix Resurrection, the Onslaught Saga, and the Krakoa Saga.

Here’s the complete thank me later list of the entire Krakoan Era in order: House/Powers of X Dawn of X X of Swords Hellfire Gala Reign of X Inferno Destiny if X X Lives/Deaths of Wolverine A.X.E Judgement Day Sins of Sinister Fall of X [Ongoing. Concluding with Fall of The House of X & Rise of The Powers of X]

I just finished reading every uncanny x men and new mutants, every single event, stopped here and there to read adjacent series, just got to krakoa took almost two years to get caught up, and the very second i opened up HOX/POX I almost cried. Highly recommend.

@@jessemillan1385 oh so we are going all out! Makes sense

The comic book nerd thirst is apparent with the amount of likes on an obvious bot.

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I share the feeling. I love so many of the side characters and to get to have them again during the Krakoan era was amazing. They've all been killed off now though and only the tired and boring remain. :(

@Niac022 It's repetitive nonsense again. Mutants are targeted, hunted and near extinction, and repeat. We've seen it time and time again. This is why Krakoa was refreshing. It had mutant stories but had their own troubles. Without needing the rest of the Marvel roster.

They should just go back to Mars fuck this reset

You're talking absolute shite.. krakoan era was the worst execution of a mutant arc. Hickman had an idea... And it fell to pieces when he left, to call it anything less than an embarrassment is a joke. Too many fanboys watching these videos, be good to yourselves and demand better... Geez, bloody simps

Eh they were becoming less human by the end of every story. War with the inhumans rebooting the timeline after a 1000 year war with eachother. They are becoming more like apocalypse every time they are brought back to life thinking like they are gods more and more. Extinction events are humbling experiences for mutant kind cause they learn to be more human and less jaded.

Yeah i hate the way he dismiss stories or chracters he don't like , as if they don't matter.

They threw salt in his eyes

Bully maguire put some dirt in his eyes

Idk if u read these comments ..but thanks Rob

​@chazgoodwin7034 his videos help me greatly also. I hope good things happen in your life man.

Pretty sure at that point they should stop counting as heroes.

​@@LordVanOskuroWait, they're still heros?

@@Proxy_Oka Marvel still considers them as such. So do the Avengers and others.

Which means something tragic is about to happen to the mutants once again lmao I cannot wait

Storm has the Uranos Trigger. as well. Mars is still very much in play now that she has won the war.

Is cap still helping mutants?

They really dont need the X Men at this moment. They need to take their time and build them up. They need to start up some X-projects like Gen X or X Factor to get the interest back in their direction.

I want to see Deadpool so bad. I need to know what they're gonna do next. Xmen 97 will be a nice little treat for us to get thru the Second Great Mutant Drought until Avengers 6

@@DirtCheapFUGen X… yes. I really have come to like Monet, Chamber and Synch. Husk needs to get away from older men. Just saying she has no luck with them. Miss Marvel could be involved in some stuff. I really would love to see her in a class with Dust. X factor would be interesting but it is a shame Quicksilver is dead. One of my favourite issues is X-aminations”.

nope they arent going to do it justice

​@@DirtCheapFUI'd be happy with just a Multiversal X-Men movie with the old cast

I kind of think that the mutants could be in another timeline, especially in their Krakoan era, trying to make sense of it in the main comic universe is pretty hard, especially with the different potential futures etc. If anything I said does or doesn’t make sense, I wouldn’t mind helping to understand the xmen and mutants but it’s just so hard to make sense of

They get wiped out. Why would you want to see that? Humans will always win in the end.

Ms marvel sucks she's one of the lamest characters in marvel her powers aren't interesting and neither is her character.

Its not like humanity has done mutants any favors.

@@kap1618 how human can done mutant any favor when mutant is a natural threat to them, mutant is mean to replace human if both trying to live on earth together The only way to have peace is human and mutant live in different planet

Thank you.

I wonder who doubted him tbh cuz I'm always like he's a dick but he's factually correct

There killing Orchis. Those guys are trying to genocide Mutants. How are the X Men evil for defending themselves?

@@kap1618 at this point there is no evil or good any more The war between human and mutant is a natural event because mutant is a natural threat to human They are mean to replace human if both trying to live in earth together So this war will happen , it not problem about good or bad It just simple is the survival of each race

I completely agree. The X-men as they are now are people that the old X-men used to fight against. It's completely out of character for them to be this way.

@@shiftyeyedninja The thing is, they went throughout this run saying that they were 'better' than humans, 'the future', and everything like that. Except that, if you remove their powers, you're left with racist, bigoted people who put their mutant status above everything else. And by that, I mean everything. And everyone else's status as 'Mutate' or 'Human' is put above everything else. The personality, morality, achievements of a person are unimportant compared to genetic status. Mutant first, then Mutate, then Human. That's the social strata Krakoa was all about. At best, visiting humans (who needed special permission to even visist, but could never LIVE on Krakoa) were mildly patronized, at worst they were treated with thinly-veiled contempt. That includes humans like T'Challa or Tony Stark, which makes it all the more absurd. I eventually kinda gave up on the X-Men. They'd become exactly what they hated, they just put a thicker veneeer of civility over it than most anti-mutant groups do.

@@shiftyeyedninja This. They went from heroes to supremacist terrorists.

@@Ares99999what the mutant should do is moving to another planet to live That is the only way to have peace between human and mutant

Now just to wait a decade to see it in live action 😭

​@@nailinthefashion 😭😭😭😭😭😭

I would be biased with a war against all of humanity but this Earth is on orchis side and they have no intention of ever coexisting with mutants but only with there own kind I guess this is understandable but only the future is going to determine if this will turn out for the better or for the worst😢

A wise husband

Part of me feels like he covered her once during some of the lead up to No Way Home.

Punching bags again

They shoulda kept the Krakoa status quo and built on it. After all this it seems disappointing that they'd cram back into that dusty mansion that gets torpedoed every other week....