Mary Jane Dies Tonight! ● Spider-Man: Edge of Time [1080pᴴᴰ] 

Miles think just like he’s teacher

That peter was always kind of a wimp

You realize Mary Jane won't die if they fix the timeline right? Peter isn't being rational Just like Miles potentially nuking his universe to "save" his dad

​@@superheriber27 yo I'm just replying cause this speech randomly popped into my head and you watched this an hour ago , kinda crazy .

@@pie7591 Odd

I always love it when people acknowledge Peter's sacrifices

Something that I wish ATSV did. Showing Miguel’s undying respect for Peter.

@@archivist_13if I remember right, he’s also one of the only hero’s the world remembers in 2099s universe because he was that good of a hero, always sacrificing everything and getting nothing in return

@@Venompool-ms8lm yeah Peter was just that goated of a hero

The comic writers: "I'm going to ignore that."

I mean it’s the essence of the character. Remember uncle Ben died because he did nothing.

Hey, don’t disrespect Stan Lee. And I agree with the reply above.

@@AdamRee-lx8uh ???

​@@AdamRee-lx8uhWhat? how is that disrespectful?

Steve diko but whatever

@Effain Junior I hope we see them both on spider verse franchise

​@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674instead we got Oscar Isaac voice acting Miguel which is perfect

​@@Sierra19 this voice is better

They are spectacularly amazing.

Fr man they both fit so well into 2099 & Spiderman

Miles think just like he’s teacher

YEP HITS SO HARD

Miguel is fake

Into the spider verse Peter Parker would be proud

Agreed

Better ignore the current stuff and consider either the first Spider-Girl run or the Renew Your Vows stories the real canon (?)

@@uncannydcmarvelous5732That they are

@cornparade6874 @uncannydcmarvelous5732 you fans don't really understand is you have this character in the main core 616 books be very heavily restricted on a lot of things you want the character to grow with you when the character is not supposed to do that

(Spoilers for the new spider verse movie) And Miguel would send him back to his own reality like he did Gwen

I doubt 2099 would risk nuking the multiverse

@ZipTx my guy he did that with gwen after miles escaped. He would send peter back to his dimension so he doesn’t get in the way

I would said both since EoT Peter and EoT Miguel's is different than ASTV Miguel so i wouldn't mind that if both of this Spiderman is on ASTV movie and proof Miguel's is wrongs

@@FlowSouls neither Miles or Miguel are wrong

Good speech that 90s Spidey and MCU Spidey needed.

I love how Across got us all to forget about this, despite showing us the Andrew Garfield Uncle Ben moment.

@@IronDinoNot everyone. It was one of my first thoughts after seeing "Across the Spider-Verse" . Easily my least favourite part of the movie because of how everyone was acting about "canon events". Was overall disappointed with the film because of it.

@@Frozen_Death_Knight I’m pretty sure the film itself doesn’t believe in canon events, just that Miguel does

@@thebcwonder4850 It doesn't matter if the film doesn't believe in it. Thay make every Peter Parker believe in it and act accordingly. It's enough to make the movie a shit Spider-man movie. Because, as said by Peter in this video, "They don't get the first thing about being spider-man" if they make Peter act that way.

It was written by Peter David, who made Spider-Man 2099 and has written some of the best spidey stories out there so I think he understands the character pretty well 😊

@@YAHSHUA777 we need spiderman noir solo game

@@IIIISai Amen to that,

You'd think Christopher Daniel Barnes (90s Spider-Man) would understand, given how many times he lost Mary Jane.

@@ImDemonAlchemistfr

Indeed. Considering the game was written by Miguel’s co-creator Peter David, this game would be a good example of how 2099 should act before any kind of character development happens. Edit: I posted the comment too early. Didn’t finish the last sentence.

I mean the creator of Miguel wrote this game

Arguably though, even if Miguel doesn't save MJ here it wouldn't change anything in the long-term because she'll be alive once the timeline gets fixed, but he goes and saves her anyway out of respect for Parker which is something I wanna see out of Spider-Verse's Miguel

@@m4hche3zbur9erz True

This Miguel is accurate. The movie one? Not really

Truly top tier.

Christopher Daniel Barnes is also very good here, and was also Peter in the 90s show. And the VA at the end of this clip was that show's MJ, lol

@@ct578 Holy crap! It's been such a long time, I legit didn't recognize his voice!

He shouldn't have a partner because honestly when is his only true love

I fee like he only has respect for golden age parkers in atsv

​@@frediemane7312yep that's why he was so pissed that miles basically killed peter parker

@brainydude8666 miles dident kill nobody other than indirectly cause his uncles death ,spiderbite is not his fault collider whassent made by him, the kingpin killed peter not miles.

@@frediemane7312while that is true that everything that happened was out of Miles’ control, Miguel is too blinded by his past mistakes to see that

​@frediemane7312 Um, are you forgetting the part where the only reason Peter lost the fight in the collider is because he was distracted trying to keep Miles safe? It doesn't mean that Miles "killed" Peter, but it DOES mean that he's culpable for his death regardless of intent or lack of alternative options. If you get forcibly put in a Trolley Problem, you *are* culpable for the deaths of anyone involved, but that doesn't mean that you are "responsible" for their deaths. It's like the difference between saying "I *killed* that man" and saying "I *got* that man *killed."* It's a BIG difference morally, but ultimately you'd have to be an evil sociopath to not feel bad about being involved. Miles *got* Peter *killed,* and thus morally he should feel culpability for it, regardless of whether or not he had any intent, or any way of knowing what would happen. A more mature Miles might one day realize and come to accept that it wasn't his *fault,* and it was just an unfortunate circumstance beyond any reasonable degree of control. He *could've* stayed home that night, but WHY would he? That doesn't make *him* responsible for Peter's death, especially when Goblin was the one actively trying to murder him, and Kingpin is the one who DID actively murder him.

yes it is from the future parker so it made sense

You can imagine me thrill when i put that together myself. God, I love this game

they shoulda had spiderman noir or peter argue with miguel, its not as powerful or intense when its a teenager vs adult imo

@@IIIISai I mean when Miguel finds out what Incursions are he’s gonna feel like an idiot

​@@IIIISainoir isn't in the society

@@blue-eclipse9365 that’s literally what he’s trying to prevent

@@kory.j6561 he caused an incursion by going and living his other hims life. He is responsible for that, and he’s pushing the blame and such on Miles and making up this false doctrine about “canon”

That would be the best moment of the movie

Calling it now next movie he will come and it’s gonna be insane

616 Peter would get him right

@@kingjoker8399 Peter B Parker is considered 616 Peter in Spiderverse. Although if you mean comics/Shattered Dimensions/Edge of Time Peter is 616, then I could totally see that.

@@mohitnair2541 he’s not tho across the spider verse proves it cuz they literally showed 616 comic Spider-Man when Gwen father died proving my point he’s not mainline 616

All 4 spider-men from Shattered dimensions voiced Peter in cartoons in the past. Amazing voice: Spider-Man: The new animated series(MTV 2003) Noir voice: 90s Spider-Man 2099 voice: Spider-Man and his amazing friends Ultimate voice: Spectacular Spider-Man.

Fax

But we can have other Spider-Man so long as they are committed to doing good and helping everyone in need, right? We should't just say that any Spider-Man that isn't Peter Parker isn't Spider-Man and does not have the right to be Spider-Man, right?

@deadpoolrockz6410 true but Peter Parker is the OG Spider-Man

I agree Peter Parker is real Spider-Man. The GOAT. 💯💯💯

@@ricardomorales8969 OG SPIDER-MAN FAN FOREVER

Like a multiverse, there's an infinite number of possibilities, implying that there are more than one Miguel O'Hara. Thus making this version, the Ultimate version, the LEGO version and the SONY version different than one another.

u didn’t pay attention to the movie, Miguel is guilty of exactly what Miles is trying to do. When he tried to save “everyone” his universe collided with the other and collapsed

@@kory.j6561 Miguel’s full of it, besides even if that were true or not it’s still no excuse for him to be such a demented brute.

​​@@kory.j6561Miguel broke a Canon Event because he tried to live the life of another him and be the father of that Miguel's daughter after he was killed. He did what Kingpin tried to do in that last movie. That girl wasn't HIS daughter. Miles isn't trying to do that. He wants to rescue HIS dad because that's what heroes do. Heroes don't choose who lives and who dies. They're not gods. The Peter Parker from Miles' Earth was going to die either way. He was never going to be able to stop Kingpin. It was a miracle that Kingpin's brought that radioactive spider to Miles' Earth. Even if it was an accident, sometimes accidents like these are just the way the universe expresses itself. And that's just how Spider-Men are made; through accidents.

@@kidprime6863 In fact Miguel didn’t become Spider-Man by accident, but instead he became Spider-Man on purpose.

I came back to this for a reason cause I know certain Spider-Man wouldn’t let anything happen like this in the movie

Considering Unlimited Spider-Man shows up a lot (background character models), it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for there to exist multiple versions of Miles, Spider-Gwen and Miguel. (Plus it's just really funny to picture Edge-Of-Time Miguel interacting with Shattered Dimensions Miguel because of how different they are)

Planty Films here on RU-vid just uploaded a video today showing this

I think the reason why Miguel is like this IN ATSV is how much hurt he became after wiping the whole multiverse, that guilt would fuck any man up you know?

Well Miguel tried that and saved his daughter, but his entire world eventually destroyed itself. So he’s technically trying to help the other spider-men the best way he knows how

Did you people even pay attention to the movie? The spider-men saw entire universes collapse for trying to save "everyone", this is why most spiders don't switch sides and stay with Miguel

@@superheriber27 No, just the spiders *he* found and sought after. Selected likeminded individuals, not spidermen/women as a whole (on the good side).

​@@Blue-kd3sqthing is the universe Miguel was in wasn't his own, he went there to take that universes Miguel O'Hara who died. That's when the universe collapsed and he lost "his daughter" the second time. He went on about how each spider-man goes through their own canon event otherwise the spider-verse would collapse in on itself. But him keeping Miles from saving his father atleast try to save him and everyone in his universe from spot would just contradict what Miguel wanted. So really lot of people look back at this scene and said this spider-man would've back miles up atleast point out trying is better than sitting around and do nothing.

Me this reference makes so much sense after the movie

This peter parker is just.. generic peter

​@@IAMSONICTH3H3DG3H0Ghe's actually voiced by josh Keaton who also voices spectacular Spider-Man

He sure would because he's overly emotional and doesn't realize Mary Jane would still survive after fixing the timeline at the end of the game

@ZipTx What part of "Mary Jane would still survive after fixing the timeline at the end of the game" did you not understand? Miguel got sidetracked from FIXING A LITERAL TIME MACHINE just so Peter would stop whining

@@IAMSONICTH3H3DG3H0Gwhat’s that supposed to mean.

And what's important escapes you.

Stan lee is probably rolling in his grave for what those dumbass writers are doing to spider man and the punisher

@@jexgaudet What did they do to the Punisher?

@@epsyblue7714 those dipshits brought his wife back from the dead only to have him cucked and she left him, for that reason, which was technically her fault basically doing the modern day marriage bullshit

Spider Man writers are becoming WAY sadistic with Peni Parker.

@@YangTheAce no offence to any Spider-Man fan, but you guys are a bunch of sadistic pricks

If Spider-Man from Edge of Time would have a word with Miguel O'hara from Beyond the Spiderverse, I get the feeling that Miguel would say "Where did you get that? A fortune cookie?"

In a heartbeat

Facts

That's 616 Spider-Man. Peter B Parker. This game might not be canon but it's the same character technically

@@shyguy9793 Peter B isn’t 616

@@shyguy9793 he’s an alternate version of 616, not the og

well 616B peter is the one miguel most respects so hopefully pete will teach miguel about that lesson

2099 isn't "looking at the other side" He experienced first hand how intervening can lead to greater disaster

If it makes you feel any better, I think Josh Keaton on a Twitch stream said that Spectacular may have been freshly recruited after he had experience the Death of George Stacy. This may imply that he was a more vulnerable into believing the whole canon event explaination as a means to ease his own pain of losing such a trusted ally. Since this is a voice actor saying it, this more of a head canon so to speak. I wouldn't be opposed though if in the next movie, Spectacular begins having doubts about trying to stop Miles group from preventing Officer Davis demise and the over means of the Spider-Society ensuring canon-events do happen. 2099 then says something along the lines of "looking the other way", which then Triggers Spectacular and causes him to defect to Miles group, or have an immediate conflict with Miguel, before defecting.

Peter is The one who doesnt get it.

There’s no way spectacular Spider-Man was going for the cannon sh.t

Miles think just like he’s teacher

BRO AGREED

​@@ronhanma0457ngl I think he just sided with miguel because he was scared

Kinda understand where he’s coming from tho. Peter and miles overall just wanna save everyone but Miguel would make the hard choice to sacrifice 1 to save many

​@@ascendedsavage7040but that one should be themselves maybe Spider-man can't save everyone but that doesn't mean he has to stop trying

⁠​⁠@@andrewleyton6689to be fair in across the spider-verse he saw 1st hand that changing canon would destroy a universe. Miguel doesn’t want to risk the lives of millions for 1

​@ascendedsavage7040 I don't get it, tho. If it didn't happen yet, then how is stopping it, breaking canon? Canon is part of a story, and before it happened, it wasn't canon. An example is in dragon ball z beerus, and the other gods of destruction weren't canon because they're not occurring in the story atm. If it doesn't happen in the story, it's not canon till it is. So miles saving his dad isn't breaking canon as his dad didn't die, and him not dying would be then considered to be canon.

@@undertalefire22 the movie kinda explains that they use a algorithm to analyze multiple universes to make predictions on future events using information attained from those universes. It’s not actual canon like in stories that’s just the name they gave it to describe the events

They probably couldn't because it would've been contradictory to Miguel lol

​@RealRoboKnight You mean THAT Miguel. This was co-written by the OG creator instead of some imitation.

Maybe in beyond the spider verse we’ll get a cameo of Edge of Time Peter and all the other Spider-People not included in Spider Society

Thats what happens when he is not The main character...

​@@javierlopez9789 No, this is what happens when you have a multiverse of different spider-men lol

Nah, I'm pretty sure most spider-men don't disagree with Miguel because they saw the universe being erased first hand alongside him

@@superheriber27 Nah, no spiderman would ever give up on saving someone though, I mean look at this spider-man right here, he's literally doing what you say most wouldn't Its also worth noting Gwen asking Miguel if he knows for certain it'll erase his universe he just says "it does" he doesnt give any actual evidence, Miles puts it best "just because some algorithm says so, we're supposed to let abunch of people die? You realize how messed up that sounds?"

@@james5076 Peter here is being irrational, they literally reset the timeline at the end of the game so Mary Jand wouldn't die even if Miguel didn't save her Also most Spider-men *in the movie* stay on Miguel's side, didn't you watch it?

Yes.

@@disneypixarmarveldreamwork4333 Alright then.

yep probably OG Peter from his universe aswell

Which is probably why he’s not in the Spider Society

Miguel: “it’s a canon event Peter!” Peter: “you don’t know the first thing about being spider man”

I'll give you the reason why but you're not going to like it because in your eyes you want the character to grow up to be with you but the character is written to be the average person and that's only thing going forward you can't have the character grow up to be having a marriage having a family and going forward because you ruined the character you would have to change the entire business model that this book has been done for almost 70 years going forward Business model keep him single and that represents the average person reading the book and that's what represents them the most when you have Ultimate Spider-Man you have a character that's already married having kids and being represented it's a big difference and big difference on business model on how you do those characters you got to think about creative and interesting storytelling if you have a writer that does interesting storytelling going forward I don't think We dont need to have Peter get married have kids in the main core books

@@theelitebattleangel I get that, I just think that canon events become disrupted when someone from a different universe does something to interfere. So if Miles does save his dad, because it’s his universe, nothing will happen. Think about it. Miguel said that he broke the canon in a universe with a different version of himself and that caused the whole universe to erase. Miles unknowingly did the same thing in Spider-Man (Indian)’s universe when he saved the Captain and that caused the canon to disrupt. But when Gwen revealed her secret identity to her father, who was going to be captain, he didn’t become captain, and Gwen realized that because it’s her story, she can change what happens in her own universe without any anomalies, nobody else can, just like only Miles can change what happens in his universe. So canon events might not be disrupted as long as nothing from another universe interferes.

THIS!!!

Quick question is the third part a bad thing to happen should it come to that?

Well you have a point

People really think that he was getting one over on 2099 huh?

One, literally anyone would’ve been emotional if they found out one of their loved ones is about to die and they don’t “accept their fate”. Miles was literally questioning Miguel on what it means to be Spider-Man and bum rushed through all of those Spider-Men to hope to get home. It obviously wouldn’t be the most pleasing news to receive or find out. Two, although Beyond The Spider-Verse isn’t out yet, we saw that Gwen’s father gave up being captain, and apparently with the tradition of becoming captain, they have to die. But Gwen isn’t an anomaly like Miles is, and her world didn’t collapse, so although I’m purely speculating, the rules can easily not be as applied to him. And unlike Edge of Time, there is no task quite like stopping bigger Anti-Venom and Future Peter that Miles is involved in, he’s quite literally “doing his own thing” while Indian Spider-Man’s world collapse from him not being an anomaly and balancing having to stop The Spot.

Just because Miguel “said” the multiverse was gonna fall apart if canon events were disrupted doesn’t mean it’s true his canon events are only a THEORY based off his experience. Which makes literally no sense cuz when Peter B. Parker came into replace Peter from Miles’s universe Miles universe didn’t collapse like his, there is so many holes in Miguel’s theory that doesn’t add up. Gwen even suspected smth was up. Miles disrupted a canon event in the movie and we saw nothing happen Miguel lied about the situation saying it was a multiverse error when it was clearly the spot messing around. Two Miguel in this game saved MJ and created a NEW TIMELINE, it didn’t reset timeline cuz if it did then the events that happened in the future would still play out and Peter would eventually end up like his older evil counterpart causing this endlessly loop.