How Powerful is Ghost Rider? | MCU Power Scaling 

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Is ghost rider the fastest healing character in marvel

Seeing as he Satan bounty hunter with power hell behind him yea pretty strong

What’s about the penance stare

But they still didnt show his full potential in the movies tho. Although the movies were great

@@ogrethesober4904 anything with nick cage is great

Oh yeah

If you read the comics recently, you'll know that holds up as well, as reyes was able to high jack a dead celestial and use it essentially as a mech suit to actually fight other celestials...

Still got the nightmares of ghost rider screaming NOT THE BEES!

Literally hell bent. I love that ⚡️⚡️⚡️

yes dude like, sure theres a human host but their goals and desires come second to the main drive for vengeance super rad

Didnt punisher become ghost rider?

@@RC_dido Cosmic Ghost Rider from what I heard and I think that one is from another universe (because comics)

I consider the Punisher a similar force of nature. Just with guns.

Carter slade I believe is his name

@@1man2raw Yes brother. Also known as "The Caretaker"

The firehorse motorcycle ride was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@@nordindelosreyes9290 literally and metaphorically

I used to have the caretaker action figure. Absolutely badass

true however his power scales by how bad the enemy is. if the enemy is justified I.E has never committed a sin then Ghost Rider's power takes a nose dive. hence why when Hulk went nuts and Tony asked for his help G.R told him he couldn't help

@@TheMeta141 Choosing not to fight him is not the same as winning or losing to him. That actually came up twice (both with The Hulk, and as World-Breaker hulk (and if Ghost Rider is on the same power level as World-Breaker Hulk, then the Hulk of the Advenger would obviously be no match). But even without the penance stare, the fact of the matter is that Ghost Rider can only be truly harmed or killed by "weapons forged in heaven ", of which Hulk has never had access to. So if Ghost Rider chose to, he could harm/kill the Hulk (remember, Ghost Rider's hellflame cannot be regenerated, nullifying Hulk's healing factor), yet Hulk could never cause Ghost Rider any lasting or permanent damage.

I remember that, man didn't get off of his bike. He used the Pennant Stare for just half a moment and then dipped.

Lmao thats boring af

Ghostrider is the Superman of MCU... Literally no one can defeat him with the powers he possesses (not talking about the comics, only the movies and shows) In the Hulk & the Agents of SMASH, he burned the gamma off of the Hulk and turned him into banner (Not sure how this is relevant but I just had to add this sick demonstration of his power)... I mean physically talking he can take on anyone and who knows if he got the Stormbreaker or the Mjolnir he could turn them into hellfire versions of his choice (That would be sooooooooo cool to see) I mean in my opinion MCU dosent want to emphasise his character much because upto this point there hasn't been even a single weakness shown about him anywhere in the movies or the shows... So if they decide to bring him in with the rest of the crew he would render their existence obsolete... He could just have beaten Thanos himself or maybe turned one of the megaships of Thanos's army (Which are destroyed by Cap. Marvel) and turn them to his hellfire version and blow up the entire armada of Thanos... So if the MCU decides to show him, it would only be with the teamup from Blade, Living Vampire, Dracula, Dr Strange, Memphisto, Wanda, etc... Only the ones with any affiliation to magic or hell powers... Cuz literally anyone in the non-magic/science department would be instantly useless against him... Perhaps Tony or Richards could create methods to contain his Hellfire or even the spirit of vengeance, but that would require a really long time, and FYI Tony is dead now...

But if you think about it, with the introductions of the Multiverse and you know Kang the Conquerer. MCU might afford to introduce Ghost Rider without actually nerfing him. We also gon have the Eternals as well. All the godly overpowered being will be on the MCU soon

So true. He is one of, if not the most powerful character in the marvel roster. They would so need him, especially so if he’s going up against the heroes. (Side note: things from heaven are the only way anyone not also from hell could incapacitate/kill the ghost rider.)

The only reason we don't have actual power scaling in the MCU is because it's just too expensive to animate and even then I don't think a lot of people would understand the true power that some of these characters possess another reason is the character development takes time that would take years look at iron man he at max is 1/10 the power he had in comics. I also just remembered that another reason why it's hard for them to do power scaling is because certain characters the other characters to exist to show how amazing they are like Tony Stark is brilliant but you don't really see that too much because they don't really show how smart Black panther is and Mr fantastic isn't in the MCU either. And without that knowledge boost he doesn't get into his super overpowered crap.

@@flamevale4422 Ghost Rider is definitely one of marvels most powerful heroes. But definitely not characters.

This is the nerf

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@@KeyIssues I forgor 💀

Then why is it that it takes him like 6 punches to knock 1 guy out.

Yeah he is a ghost and a demon so unlikable by man and alien because he is destined to suffer while need suffering of others

Go check out his comics they get even crazier.

Yes to Memphisto but I don’t think he was as strong as galactis

@@isaiahsimp98 He was. He stalemated Galactus. Was a hard fight though, and it was multiverse Galactus, not the original single universe one.

@@isaiahsimp98 There is an instance of GR one punching Galactus with the penance stare. A literal: Came, Saw, Conquered. Then left just as badass as he came.

Zarathos isn't the only Spirit of Vengeance. Danny Ketch's SoV was Noble Kale, and Robbie Reyes' was Eli Morrow.

Galactis 💀

And can only be killed by the one and only God OP enough?

Not if you're invisible. He can see spirits.

You haven't even seen the bike yet

+ hes super badass and style points count, ghost rider > thanos

@@nev7 Thanks can beat GR with the infinity stones right? cause I really like GR but then he would be too broken being better than thanks in style AND power.

Well actually in the comic's he became a herald to galactus, which then thanos killed galactus snd made ghost rider his servant instead since ghost rider is literally unlikable

@@muhamnadadam6726 unlikable or unkilable?

Quake would demolish sif

Nioce

@@muhamnadadam6726 unlikable hahaha.

I think there's potentially a way to turn him into an antihero. That'd fit his character, although his duty is kinda heroic. He's literally anti villain.

​@Wall_E. Nah for the most part he is an anti hero and goes against hell itself. Sure he's been manipulated but because the spirit of Zarathos a demon trapped and now giving the powers of the ghost rider is still compelled to enact vengeance, he eventually goes against that manipulation. I'd say 9 times out of ten he is lot more reasonable than the punisher as there is no gray zone with what he sees depending on the writer. Only the concept of revenge itself is gray.

Gabriel Luna was even up fo play him some more. But his show got cancelled unfortunately

@@Tainted_Human Unfortunate indeed

He’s my favourite because I prefer the Hell-Charger over the Hell-Cycle, even though the Hell-Cycle is more versatile.

Blaze is and always will be Ghost Rider

we were robb(i)ed

I wish there was at least a ghost (rider) of a chance we can get! Oh well. Way to crush my spirit (of vengeance), Hulu!

@@skintgirafde320 Nice one 😳

You should be lucky he didn't get a Hulu series look what they did to Damian hellstrom

Kevin why

Thanos could still just kill him. Or make the snap only affect him.

@@iloveboobies4938 You’re wrong lol, thanos couldn’t even kill him in the comic. Like that guy said he’s a spirit so the snap will most likely fail.

@@sliq3rd80 what are you talking about. Thanos is god in the comic? Mephisto could be destroyed just as easily as anything else with IG

@@iloveboobies4938 Idk why you’re bringing up mephisto. They literally said ghost rider can possibly be killed by weapons forged from heaven, or by god himself. And Have you ever heard of Cosmic Ghost rider? King Thanos couldn’t even kill him.

Heaven and god are a thing in marvel comics? Truly hope this doesn't find it's way to the MCU. Even for comic standards that's just stupidly unrealistic.

Same here, sleeved and in a box. I'm 47.

Also he wasn’t trying to kill him

isnt that basically Cap vs the winter soldier?

@@KristofferEk yes but if one of them absolutely clapped on the other

@@sethv5273 man on man action

@@yaboyjackiechan1483 mom vs devil

Exactly. Most (if not all) characters in U.S. comics are as strong as what the author wants. Things is a bit different in Japanese comics (aka manga). Just saying.

@@Parry.Hotter I have seen so many Anime where the main characters get their stuff kicked in several times and it just makes their wins better

@@Parry.Hotter pretty sure they are the same with stories there are those authors who want their character to win even in manga

@@yazekami4656 Manga has more consistency

@@Parry.Hotter your username is what happens when a time traveller moves a chair

Ngl Thanos was little more than plot armor. Because whether he thinks it's justified or not, he killed innocents, and that's enough for the Rider to kill him. The Stare not working on Frank is more understandable because he only hunts criminals, criminals that Rider would also kill, so he's completely justified unlike Thanos

Penance stare works based on the burden ones misdeeds have put on their soul. If you have absolute conviction that you haven't done wrong then the stare won't have much effect on you.

If I remember correctly the Penance stare doesn't work on Punisher, I might be thinking of a different character though, anyways the reason being in their heart they didn't do anything wrong.

I've heard he actually one shot Thanos with it wth? What's the truth here y'all

Ghost Rider does what he wants, not what he's told to do

Then again, He Also Fights Demons, Angels and Hell lords like mephisto on daily basis

That's comics for ya. Power scaling is simply not a thing. The Flash is the fastest man alive yet his villians include a guy who throws boomerangs and some thug with an ice gun. Batman is supposed to be one of the best fighters in the world who knows 100 different types of martial arts yet whenever the Joker gets in a physical fight with him, he somehow holds his own against Batman. People always get mad when their god characters from comics get powered down when used in other forms of media because most don't get that unlike comics, things like movies and TV shows actually care about logic and don't just go out saying shit like "oh this guy is so strong he can battle gods look how powerful he is" when in practice, said character can't do that because then there'd be no conflict. No story. This show got that. This video guy hyped the character up too much. This particular adaptation of Ghost Rider is very powerful but he isn't some unstopable force. He would actually lose to many of the big MCU heroes. He almost couldn't handle a chick with teleportation powers because she kept dissappearing on his ass.

In actuality, the Ghost Rider wasn't even fighting Worldbreaker Hulk during that story; Johnny Blaze was just using the powers of the Ghost Rider to try and fight the Hulk off. Dr. Strange even points out that the Ghost Rider's power is almost limitless and could easily take down the Hulk no matter how mad he is if he really wanted to, but as soon as the Ghost Rider takes over he just rides away which I love.

Could be wrong but im sure if the ghost rider is let loose, he's potentially the most powerful being in the universe, limitless power

@@carlgraham9526 in the comics, at the end of the of any universe, the last 2 characters alive will always be thanos and ghost rider. There's a third character but forgot.

@@darktrooper1761 silver surfer?

@@darktrooper1761 adam warlock?

Indeed. He only kills those who deserve it, or people who have called down vengeance against another person. Or spirits and demons who escape the Dark Dimension or Hell. He sends them back. Even in the Nicholas Cage Original film back a decade ago, he could just look at someone and call them out as guilty or innocent. Instantly. That’s a core aspect of the Spirit of Vengeance; Hellfire Judge, Jury, & Executioner.

The Rider only kills people who are *”Guilty”* For example With his penance state he can tell instantly if your guilty, which means if you are Guilty he tortures you with all the pain you have ever inflicted on anyone, And he also kills beings from different dimensions. There is a reason he is *The Spirit of Vengeance*

Yeah but just to clarify that wasnt just a shield member in the video that was jeffrey mace with the super serum the third captain america clearly ghost rider held back but took out mace with just a couple of punches same would do to steve rogers

@@finstrike7 Not to mention in the second film where time was basically irrelevant to him when he fought Satan

Ghost Rider is like an entity that possessed a host to find those who commit sins(probably heavy sins) and needs to be punish. That's what they primary objective is. Think of it like, an Angel of death except hell version. As you can see in the show, the host(Robbie) is clearly in control of GR but that's just how much he can handle the power. Even Johnny Blaze take years to unlocked the GR hidden potential and the fact that he stomps the avengers by his own in the comics says it all. I would love to see in the future they make Ghost Rider shows and have character development so we know just how powerful he is.

Been saying this for a while. They should've given Robbie Reyes his own show instead of pushing him to the side for the ill fated "Helstrom"

@@darrenkey207 I'd rather get a better, MCU movie for Reyes' GR right now than a TV show. Though a horror themed show does sound nice.

@@MarvelousPhilly I like that idea, too. I do think Disney + is capable of doing a good Robbie Reyes series

Eh I'd actually prefer johnny blaze. I wanna see the motorcycle.

@@metallicnole4514 im tryna see a solo western with clay, with tha horse

Love him

He is essentialy stronger then 98% percent of the avengers

Is Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D still part of the MCU or it's also confirmed to be non-canon like all the Netflix series (it's not Netflix, but could be non-canon)?

@@seth9655 it is canon The seasond tie into mcu events

@@seth9655 Despite contrary belief, no, none of the shows were decanonized. Idk who came up with it or why new MCU fans are believing it.

So... John Wick, he's just not needed to transform yet.

John Constantine gets possessed by the spirit of vengeance

Keanu is fits best as constantine

k we need keanu, with the ghost rider movie out fit (but bubbling like in SOV) and bike, SOV skull and throw in the bagger too. and locusts, and the rest of god's wrath. and ultron (think about it)... he could probably overide ultron and possess him too, just like any other machine.

No. Keanu's a good and lovable guy but he's not a good actor.

You welcome

Well new canon is the immortal hulk is basically a spirit from hell as well which wasn’t established in WWH

Classic strange would wash ghost rider no diff.

'the spirit of vengeance didn't murder hulk in wwh because he said he was justified this make no sense, Hulk action cause harm to others that were not involved in what happened to Hulk, no matter how much you spin it Hulk is guilty

@@asasdsaasda blame the writers lol Granted I personally never read the comic but do remember seeing scans of GR riding away

Can i have a link plz, and i know the one above all aka god aka stan lee created ghost rider as heavens strongest weopon.

The multiverse existed specifically so that everyone’s favorite character can somehow emerge as best somewhere. Just saying lol

Absolutely

@@DavonDepp keep everybody happy until they start a war by saying which is strongest

@@parklez3250 which is strongest lol

How was it? Did u bawl the entire episode like I did?

The hard part becomes writing someone like him as a character. If they're unbeatable then fights can seem to lack tension and you can lose interest. Use some contrivance to nerf them or auto beat them and that shows weak and lazy writing. It's really hard to tackle that kind of character so I think that he won't show up in the MCU moving forward or at least without some heavy power changes

@@majintv24 well eith thr ghost rider its pretty easy. The user holds the spirit of vengeance back just by being a free willed person. So that instantly creates several weaknesses to work with

Power for the ghost rider scales to how much control the person with the spirit of vengeance is willing to give up to it. More control given to spirit= more powerful the ghost rider. In turn though the person probably won't get control back for a good bit of time if they give to much control, potentially turning on ally's and such. If the person refuses to give any control to the spirit it will force it's way out and will try for a full take over any time it's let out a bit. Edit 1 In human form the ghost rider is supposed to be at his most vulnerable. One of the only times a person with the spirit of vengeance can die is when in human form. Human form =no fight for/ giving of control. Basically it means the rider senses no evil or the person is in no danger Edit 2 Oh yeah and separating the spirit forget that. If I remember correctly, the last time the advengers tried that the spirit started actively fighting them, at full control. Meanwhile Robbie went for a little drive in hell with blaze.

@@deadboob If I remember right, nothing can really separate the spirit once bonded to the host unless it's willingly passed on. Not even Dr. Strange can do it. Even when the spirit leaves a host, the residual power is enough to still give the former host hellfire powers and extended their life span way beyond normal human life expectance.

@@marcusmcneal7453 basically

Why was Hulk's actions justified?

@@Magickiller13 Wasn't really justified (but we don't get to know that until later). In Planet Hulk, after a long, hard-fought struggle, his wife and his unborn child (though we find out later he survived) was killed and his city and its people destroyed by a bomb that he thought was sent by the illuminati. So he went back to earth for vengeance. He didn't really want to destroy the earth per se. He just wanted the illuminati. Per the comics, none of the illuminati are "innocent". So the Ghost Rider chose not to fight Hulk.

@@Magickiller13 go read the comics.

@@alexanderhenderson2594 no

@@Uprising-rg4zi Ok.

lmao i was waiting for someone to talk abt doom

people on twitter gotta be invincible then

Darth Sion says hi

Kratos too.

@@rubbish_kid._ Kratos is Nigh Invulnerable, But He’s still invulnerable though.

There is a whole comic story where ghost rider was a servant of thanos, he attempted to use his penance stare on him and it brought great joy to thanos to the point where he would make the rider do it regularly to make him happy

@@mobrien7211 i read that cosmic ghost rider story. "I didn't say penance stare. I said PENANCE!" When I tell you my soul left my body.

@@mobrien7211 We're talking the grape man from the MCU, not the one true Thanos

@@mobrien7211 tbf, thats COMICS Thanos, not MOVIE Thanos, which have different reasons for why they want to destroy half the life in the universe. Comics thanos did it because he wanted to impress Lady Death and just all-around loved bringing death. Movie Thanos did not kill because it brought him joy (though...maybe it did, but not the killing itself) but rather because Thanos wanted to bring balance to the universe so everyone everywhere would have more resources to work with. So maybe, MAYBE...the penance stare might actually just straight up destroy Thanos. Maybe. Im not 100% certain myself but I THINK it just might given how Thanos is.

@@mobrien7211 maybe you forget that Ghost Rider beat Thanos

There is one cannonical method of avoiding that pain as well. Just ask the Punisher.

The more you kill the more you suffer

I don't believe it works like that the penance stare is basically to make you feel guilty of your sins but mcu Thanos truly believes he is doing what has to be done he will never feel guilt for it

The stare is inconsistent, Punisher took it and didn't budge, later he got it used on him again and the stare worked.

The stare is inconsistent and depends on what the writers want. In some cases the stare doesn't work on those that don't feel guilty of their wrongdoings and in some cases it did work. It's poorly written.

So Ghost Rider's weakness are holy weapons.

@@lin_kuei2099 "The Ghost Riders are virtually indestructible." After Zadkiel realizes that he was not, and never would be, the one true God, Johnny Blaze tells him, "Only God can make a Ghost Rider, Zadkiel. You should know that. And only God can destroy one."

The fact that the only thing that can kill him are weapons forged in hell or heaven already makes him the most powerful mcu character

@@randominternetguy646 Just and FYI on the badass things Ghost Rider did: 1)Killed Thanos using the penance stare 2) caught bullets with his teeth 3) Rode a dead Celestial (After coming across the dead body of a Celestial, the Ghost Rider infused his hell-fire into its armor, powering it up and controlling it from the inside). 4) Ghost Rider managed to defeat the entire Annihilation wave with a single hellfire blast. 5) Created a Hellfire Explosion So Powerful It Destroyed a Whole Country. 6) the Hulk punched Ghost Rider’s face and it did not even move an inch. Ghost Rider was unamused and disappointed with the power of the Hulk. And to top it off Ghost Rider pissed on Thanos' dead body.

@@randominternetguy646 the living tribunal was shown in multiverse of madness so we know he exists. So he is as of now the strongest in the mcu

Agents of Shield is highly controversial as a part of the MCU. Many don’t agree that it occurs in the same universe since it makes no sense.

It was confirmed it was so bad they retconed the show

I was surprised so many didn’t recognize 98% of this video was agents of shield haha

I’m sorry this has nothing to do with ur comment but wtf this is the 1st time I’ve ever seen someone else that shares the same name as me. That is insane, nice to meet u fellow Shaan

@@Nyctra. the very first episode established that it's in the canonical universe. It's just ignored because it went so far off the rails.

He and Dr. Strange has always been my favorite Marvel characters, and is kinda sad see how little credit they have

He’s not underrated atleast not per comics but due to the shit movies sadly

@@CelesQuinn how can i not know a character if i just said he is my favorite? What i meant is that its just a little selected group of people who trully knows how powerfull those two are

@@DioBrando-hs6ej imagine being beat by Jonathan while he didn't even know what hamon was

@@GeorgeWockington01 imagine being that one guy who missed the joke

True lol

Monster how should i feel Don't worry the door is right here

The fact that the real monster is the shit you did to YOUR victims is scary as hell

Isnt that a quote from somewhere? I recognise that line.

Poetically put...

Yea I would really like the ghost rider from agents of shield to show how powerful he is compared to like spider man and dr strange. I loved the ghost rider and is probably my favorite mcu character

Rider is more powerful than Wanda simply because of his durability. Wanda is a glass cannon. Not sure she could do much to hurt him outside of maybe figuring out a way to separate the spirit from Robbie (but then the spirit would simply move to someone else,) but he could take her down in an instant.

@@stevem4783 ghost rider is immune to magic and reality warping too so she is basically useless against him

@@stevem4783 The spirit could move to WANDA lol. It might have a hard time controlling her, because, ya know, mind powers, but it might actually be able to. She lost her kids the same way Mack lost his daughter, AND she lost her brother, parents, and love of her life.

Wanda is literally powerful, only the stupid ones would say she's overpowered .. She is that much powerful or I would say scarlet witch, she was destined to be this way but i would still think it's not gonna be easy against gr , coz that man has op powers and hax and not to mention , a strong ass plot armor , I mean the writers of gr really loved him so much..

Me too my friend i would really like to see ghost rider on the big screen again

@@wcskeleton1388 agreed, but after the last one there won't be a last one because he becomes a true angel and has blue flames and can heal

I share this exact feeling

@@apollopartin5122 you act like it can't recast, and rebooted lol. Just look at spiderman haha. 😀

@@wcskeleton1388 apparently with moon knight and blade shows coming out at some point in the mcu they might make a team with all 3 which would be cool

*Screams of horror intensifies** Ahhhhh!!!!

Howdy

AHHHHHHHHHH

Black heart : " I have no soul to burn"

@@randomguy8476 : Sounds to me like the argument a post-birth "abortion" advocate would make.

What comic was this..?

@Leplivo yes i believe it's limited by howuch control the host wants to lose

Wss there any avengers comic where ghost rider fought the whole avengers and won?

Then isn't he basically above Omega level

@@ammardewata9901 No he's usually busy killing Lucifer or other threats beyond the Avengers

Ghost Rider is like a Biblically Accurate Angel more than a demon so you're right in calling him an Agent of God. Someone has to do the dirty work.

Well that would depend which Rider you're referring to under the topic of spirit of vengeance. Remember that most people don't know that Zarathos isn't the only spirit inhabiting and transforming a rider.

The spirit of vengeance is of hell. Though it’s purpose is to eliminate any evil it finds, it is a demonic force.

Also Robbie’s spirit of vengeance isn’t actually a spirit of vengeance, though it acts very similarly as a vengeful spirit. I believe that in the show it’s legit, but I’m the comics it’s not.

@@flamevale4422 well originally it was the power to summon Zarathos but have control of your actions. Thus the reason the ghost riders looked like Zarathos.

I feel like Ghost rider was just chilling somewhere in a bar, walks out stares at Galactus then goes back inside to finish his drink

sigma male ghost rider

I remember seeing that as a kid and just being blown away. That scene made him one of my favorite heros instantly lol

@@Will-mk5pj 🗿

Holy shit you just unlocked a memory of mine. I remember that episode and even the watchet was there i think right?

Thanks for pointing that out. I figured that since Ghost Rider is a being created on a principle such as Vengeance/Justice, that perhaps someone who is innocent or a beacon of virtue could negate his supernatural powers.

@@TheDestineyAngel I don’t think negate is a good word for it… its more The Ghost Rider judges them and deems their cause for vengeance just or not. Most people have a not so just view of vengeance. Hulk in that moment, was justified and so the ghost rider told him and left.

Also take note that when Tony and Strange was watching the fight, Strange stated if the spirit was in control, he can beat the Hulk no problem. Since the spirit deemed Hulk innocent, he let him be. Also it wasn't Reed who got Johnny to go fight Hulk, Johnny saw Hulk on the news and decided to stop him, in which the Spirit of Vengeance protested Johnny's decision.

@@Will-mk5pj Well that but also, kind of impossible to pass judgement on TOAA's avatar of Wrath.

@@TheDestineyAngel It's the same as in the cartoon where the Hellcylcle's flames wouldn't burn the Hulk so Ghost Rider realized he wasn't guilty.

Hes only appeared on a web series in some parts, and not to mention the low budget .. I can bet u bro when mcu is gonna launch him in big screens , he will be epic and we all would get to see what he truly is..

@@hyperioxgamingyt3304if Ghost Rider ever gets a proper MCU movie he better be OP as hell. Also better be a horror action movie!

The fight between Ghost Rider and World War Hulk absolutely cemented Ghost Rider as one of the most badass heroes that follow his own moral rules. Before the fight against WW Hulk, the Spirit of Vengence told Johnny to not fight the Hulk, not out of fear but simply that Hulk is not guilty of any wrong doings by waging war against earth. (Long story short, Hulk gets exiled from Earth by Tony Stark and Doctor Strange, ends up on an alien planet, takes it over, becomes king happily married, wife dies in an atomic explosion of the very same ship that Hulk was exiled on, Hulk Mad, returns to Earth for vengeance). So when Johnny fought the Hulk and goes unconscious, the Spirit of Vengence simply took over and left Hulk without a word. Doctor Strange and Tony, who both were watching the entire time, simply reasoned that the Spirit of Vengence could have no doubt fought and defeated the Hulk but instead left because the Spirit did not see Hulk as the guilty one.

The hulk' s strength is only limited by his rage. And the Ghost Rider's strength is only limited by the hosts conscious. Makes you wonder what would happen if they both went all out.

@@boydfaires6531 you cant be angry forever

@@boydfaires6531 you can see imaginary axis explain it how strong is the hulk

Zarathos wasn't a demon he was an angel of heaven. Spirit of vengeance justice. He was tricked and went mad thus we have the GR. Last GR movie 🎬 at the end Blue flames indicates Angel in back.

Well, a series would do

Nicolas Cage movie "am I joke to you?"

Nicholas cage in a bad British accent..."scraping at the door, scrapiiingg at the dooooorrr"

@@nandinhocunha440 First one is an awesome movie that captures a great horror-western feel and has a hero you want to root for, no matter what anyone says about it. The second is kind of a mess because they retconned so much stuff in an attempt to make it darker and edgier, though I like the implication of the spirit starting to ascend back to angelhood in the end

Let's hope he appears in Multiverse of Madness.

Agree

Blame feige

Yea i think he really suits robbie reyes roles!!! I don't mind if he is the ghost rider that will come out in doctor strange movie

he is my fav. aos character no doubt.

Morgan le Fey is crazy powerful as well

wait what? Ghost rider has been around longer then the network tv shows, he went and took on Galactus and won, his power is on a cosmic level and would have also flattened Thanos.

@@meyatetana2973 i think he is talking about the AoS Ghost Rider (the one we are talking about in the video) and not comic Rider. Obviously, comic Rider is more powerful, but considering that AoS Ghost Rider can already scale-up to the likes of MCU Thor or Hulk is quite impressive knowing that AoS Rider only appears in a TV show

@@labida-badida8594 meaning they deliberately left robby out of end game due to the fact that he's a one man avengers. Captain marvel would not be as cocky if the rider was in front of her and strange would just not mess with the bounty hunter from hell. Hell ghost rider probably doesn't need the infinity gauntlet to use all the stones.... That man be going in raw lol. Further more the rider seems to always be aware of any danger/threat so if he was there he'd probably be the one finding and holding on to the stones and just leave to another dimension preventing every thing from happening lol.

@@kriegerh which sucks that Marvel had to retcon the shows pre WandaVision and not make the Rider canon. But then again, even if Ghostie was there, Marvel would nerf the hell outta him (kinda like what they did to Hulk), which actually makes me thankful the Ghost Rider isnt there. Lets just hope they get to bring the Rider in at somepoint in phase 4

Has there ever been a Frank Castle/Spirit team up? That seems like such overkill but I would love to see how that would play out.

@@shmalexalex7102 hellfire bullets..unholy shit that's dope

@@shmalexalex7102 I have returned with new of Cosmic Ghost Rider. Frank castle makes a deal with the demon Mephisto in hell to become possessed by the spirit of vengeance post-Thanos snap

Sorry buddy, I only speak English.

@@shmalexalex7102 yes there was. It was punisher, wolverine, and ghost rider

We could have both in a multiverse

Everyone wanted to see the OG rider in action

Oh God that's terrifying......... Nick cage not ghost rider lol.

@@kriegerh yeah but nick cage looks to old now for his role as ghost rider Either they remake robbie reyes to fit in the mcu or they recast johnny blaze

It needs to be cage

He was actually the spirit of justice back then and now he became the zarathos the spirit of vengeance

Ngl spawn probably gets his ass beat

@@alastor6143 nah gr would take one look at spawn and pronounce him innocent then walk away

@@wittwashere most likely I mean if they had to or if spawn attacked gr

@@wittwashere Spawn was never "innocent". As a mortal, he was an assassin of next to no morality, before he became Spawn.

Angel of Justice

canon comic earth-616 state that he was always a demon, never an angel

In the movie, they say that yeah however in the comics the "spirit" is known as Zarathos, who is a Demon. He gets bound to Johnny Blaze which in turn creates the Ghost Rider a combination of their souls.

@@mythicnights zarathos became a demon cus of mephisto hence the “spirit of vengeance” but it was originally a sort of god’s angel hence the “angel rider” being “the spirit of justice” as both vengeance and justice are similar but one is a little more on the rough side than the other

@@thatonememe1084 This is accurate. That’s why it became known he cannot be killed by heavenly weapons. God created Zarathos and only God can destroy him.

But the only thing that can harm ghost rider is a weapon from the god itself or from hell thor hammer isn’t made from neither

exactly

this right here

This man wrote a whole essay with quotes and everything😂

@@rickyjt86 yea thats how you add to discussion

@@Krizaey true and this mans speaking facts👌🏼

Yeah, hopefully they will cast a new Johnny Blaze, hopefully its Keanu Reeves so he does a movie or 2 and then passes it on to Reyes.

@@kingmonde I can get behind that

@@lancefisher8358 gues what " goku gets tye dragonballs" oh mighty Shenron make my soul invisible and not allowed to be tampered with" shenron: your wish is granted" goku stumps ghost rider with no worries of his hacks

@@BESTMOAD whatt??

@@BESTMOAD a soul cant be invisible either u dont have it or have it if u dont have it u die bc ur not a demon like creature not tohave a soul even tho ghost rider is stronger

Cannon story was originally: Zarathos the Angel of justice and God’s Avenger of sin is corrupted by the Devil and forced to fall into hell where he is reincarnated to do the devil’s bidding as a sort of bounty hunter of the damned until eventually he escapes after defeating the Devils warden- the Spirit of Vengeance and then Purging Mephistopheles himself. If I remember correctly some fragment of Zarathos gets left behind to allow for story continuation of the Ghost Rider

@@zacharymetzler1361 Actually, the whole zarathos being an angel of justice and god's avenger is not in the comics. That's the origin from the spirit of vengeance movie which is not canon to the comics at all.

@@jackgray2419 There's a whole story arc called "Heaven's on Fire" that reveals that origin what are you talking about

@@thekramer1097 I know.

Please go and read comics before spreading stupidity

That was Danny ketch .. No one else used it.... they were actually wrong as hell for giving it to Johnny blaze in the Ghost Rider movies

@@PSICaptain615 robbie has used used it before nor sure if its gonna be a thing now but hey

@@PSICaptain615 Every version of GR where shown to use Penance stare.

They might bring him up in secret wars or in kang dynasty who knows

Thank you!

The only character I can think of is another arcangel lucifer in the marvel universe.

@@johnathanshiggs7083 isn't that DC?

@@AGBaconbro he may mean mephisto...or hellstrom.

@@AGBaconbro Marvel has their own Lucifer

@@anibbana what ratio?

@@anibbana Cold ratio bro 🥶🥶🥶

@@anibbana u got em 🥶🥶

pls tell me this boy's ride was a Flaming Mammoth

Please tell me there was a flaming skeletal mammoth

interesting as he almost plays like a galactus type on that its a force of nature.

Let's be honest any characters could kill the whole mcu universe with a plot armour

Ghost Rider would one-shot God with the penance stare.

The only one that can beat Ghost Rider is Jesus Fuc King Christ. So repent now!

@@nightowl7261 No. Ghost Rider would body Jesus for having the sin of pride. Jesus thinks he alone can save humanity from himself? Hubris.

@@richard7199 No. Jesus defeats all evil. Repent now my boi!

@carnage wow Same. I also found Gambit to be one of the most interesting X-Men/Marvel characters and think the MCU really missed out when they decided to just make him a temporary snippet in one film.

And they all pale in power comparison to the frank castle punisher ghost rider that also absorbs the power cosmic

@@jamihart8208 Cosmic Ghost Rider kinda pale compare to Ghost Rider KOH

We are all forgetting Daniel Ketch, the Ghost Rider who slew the devil.

I recently finished collecting this storyline, one of my favorite crossover stuff