Mass Effect 3 - How to Get the Best Ending without Multiplayer 

I did it by saving the counsel, having Wrex bumped off, getting rid of Ashley, getting all the loyalties with team members in Me2, saving everyone, deleting the genophage data, destroying the reaper, saving Mordin, saving the Geth and the Quorians, getting all the assets from scanning planets, completing all the missions, doing the Broker DLC, Citadel DLC, Leviathan DLC, and taking back Omega DLC. I also got the Illusive Man to commit suicide. I got more than 8,000 readiness as Engineer. After watching your video I went back to the final part at the end and tried the destroy option and got the scene where Shep lives. I always wondered about that because I never got that scene so I stopped trying the destroy option. What I would do is stop the Game and watch the happy ending video to avoid the depression caused by any one of the three crappy endings. Thanks for the tip. PS: I would never let Mordin die. The Krogan are easily fooled and you don't lose any assets by saving him. Besides, after the war the Galaxy would need time to recuperate and the Krogan would just attack because the Galaxy would be weak....so lying to them was a blast......Suckers....ba...ha...ha...ha...haaaaa.

@@johnspartan98 I couldn’t bring myself to kill wrex. He was too badass

I have over 700 hours in the multiplayer

Hey If I know way to gain support of both salaraians and korgan If wrex is alive and cure genofage If kill the council the new sAaralain councilor will give u full support after her in cerbous coop

I have done this before

Which basically means this video was useless to me, but it was nice to know.

@@lucinae8512 that's because he made this video before LE came out, but if you have all three original games then this guide still works!

@@Rukhage I know that, he often says that in his videos.

It's a shame Shepard dies in synthesis 🙁

@@j7... he doesn't die he is reborn into the new catalyst or he is the citadel

From an EA game to think so much about the players? Lol.

@@umangmittalu nah they already said that there’s no multiplayer in legendary edition and have said that they are already balancing this, EA is giving full control of games to their studios now

@@roythemailboy5751 really? EA caught up to their bad rep and made changes to their business plan? Their major shareholders approved that? Find that hard to believe from EA...

@@roythemailboy5751 they dropped multiplayer because... drum roll ... no need to pay for servers for players to play from! Tada! Solved it for you all.

The added the extended cut, so you don't need multiplayer to get the perfect ending.

I read the wiki and it's not the same fleet you're getting. If you sabotage the cure, you get the Salarian's First Fleet, and apparently they got dreadnoughts with the same stealth system as the Normandy (you never get to see them in action, of course). You get automatically the salarian's Third Fleet after Cerberus attempted coup on the Citadel.

Galactic readiness i think will work on a scaling system depending on shepards affinity to the other races.

@@Paludion But, you get the entire Krogan race and not just a fleet. And you can still get to 8000 without sabotaging the genophage. Wrex must live, Maelons research must exist, Mordin must be in 3. All solar systems must be scanned ragardless of reaper pursuit. All side quests must be completed in record time. Spare as many people as possible in previous games (paragon) and have dlc content.

@@agama5538 the difference is 75 war assets. With Wreav as leader and the cure sabotaged you get 150 from the stealthy dreadnought fleet. With Wrex as leader and the genophage cured, you lose the fleet but gain +5 from Wrex himself and +75 from some mercs he convinces to rejoin the clans. But those 75 give you a buffer to do other things like killing off Balak in the first game, recruiting Ashley or Kaidan, not forgiving Kelly tattling on you to TIM, letting Gavin Archer kill himself etc. On a bigger perspective, I think the Krogan are going to become a future problem because there is way too much of the vengeful deadwood left over from the Rebellions. Eve’s influence will diminish since she is now just another fertile female and Wrex is a single point of failure. But with the genophage sabotaged and Eve as the only cured female, her influence becomes amplified. She can let the old deadwood die out, then become the progenitor for a new Krogan generation shaped in her image alone.

@@brainconqueror8095 The last time the Krogan's got uppity, the Council only had the Turians for proper military support. Now they also have the Alliance, shattered though it’s navy was after the Crucible was fired. Though you are forgetting that not only would Wrex and Clan Urdnot put down Krogan who want to go on the warpath, considering that Wrex has seen his people make the same mistakes and get scorched because of it, but since the canon ending to 3 is shaping up to be Destroy, the Krogan would be forced to rebuild completely, both population as well as technology, and considering the strained resources anyways, it’s likely that we wouldn’t see another Krogan rebellion at all, not after the warlords get axed to prevent another rebellion and subsequent genocide from happening.

Thanks man! I appreciate it. I hope that happens too

I truly agree

The new version? It should have been remastered. It looks like the "new version" will suck. No multiplayer and the game is being changed to pander to china and the woke crowd.

@@poligon333 dude chill the f*** out

Mee too and on my first run. My only unnecessary death was Miranda in ME3 wich was couse i had romance with her... I nailed Ashley in the and but still... I won but at what cost...

Me three

If you have the extended cut, only 3100 EMS is required for the best ending in the end

@@balosbotond00 I though it was 5000. 2500 were needed for the green ending and 5000 for the true ending.

@@milanpoos922 Yeah me too, I thought it was cannon till like a year after playing ME3. Dump her in the first meeting,I thought being honest from the start was better, Because I was romancing Liara (you can dump her but not in the first meeting) and didn't gave her the data she asked for because she was cerberus right hand and didn't tell me why she needed It (thought she might be a double agent) and finally I didn't tell her about Kai Leng because I choose the paragon option just for being Nice and warning about KL was the renegade option. When I Saw the Big dan video I realized I did everything wrong 🤣

How Many EMS did you have?

@@stutudi4881 Same I had close or a little over 9k

@@ChandlerJC Damn looks like I just failed

@@stutudi4881 8000+ is all you need tho

Thx. I read your post when I had about 7600 assets. Went back to before the Cerberus base mission and scanned all planets for more assets. Saved Wrex, Eve, Geth, Quarians, and scanned all planets for 8078 war assets. Got the ending with Shepard breath.

All i heard is that it would be easier that way.. Which makes sense. Importing a good save is better than using the default option (or the Genesis comics for that matter), since there are bad choices in the default setting and Genesis 1 and 2 doesnt cover everything. ...or if on PC just mod the save file...

As far as i remember if you dont import saves: wrex and the rachni queen are dead by default in me3. I could be wrong tho.

@@shadowdctr Sounds right to me as well. Default is kinda bad choice wise, so it also makes logical sense that way.

Which game is the Arrival DLC in? Haven't played in a long while.

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Same, Pretty much kept everyone alive. Krogan, rachni, geth, everyone was my ally and at my side in the final missions of all three games.

Good point

In ME 1 depending on what you do with Balak, you can get you the Batarian Fleet as an asset

another not to add is ME 1 where you assault the Sarens lab to stop the Genophage cure.. by saving Kirahe squad it also add war assests in me3

@Chris Madison Saving Kirrahe requires doing all of the side objectives on the way into the base, then moving on to whichever squadmate you left with him on the way out- which could be either Kaidan or Ashley.

@Chris Madison It is definitely not 3 of 4- you could disable the communications, & destroy the satellite uplink, but if you attempt to bypass the refueling drones (even though the 4th objective, the alarms, are still ahead of you) Kirrahe will die the moment you walk past.

8,288 myself, played from 1-3 in the Legendary Edition. Saying any of the endings are better than any other on a rushed game is like saying killing Wrex is better.

I got just over 8000 doing pretty much straight paragon and all the war assets

@@JohnGoetzGaming yeah it's easy but daunting at first, should have been more than Shepard breading scene for those that managed to surpass the 7,600 requirement.

@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 oh for sure I was scanning planets in the third game and going all around the citadel multiple times. The only stuff I really missed was salarians (cause fuck betraying wrex or killing mordin in cold blood) and dlc bonus missions because once you finish the dlc you don't get to go back

@@JohnGoetzGaming unless you have Wreav as the Krogan representative you are better off curing the Krogan and double if you have Eve and Mordin, the 25 points the VS gives is minuscule considering you can get more than that thanks to Overlord DLC if you saved David twice and didnt made his brother commit suicide as well the new Planet Scans thanks to the DLC's. I still wish that the VS wasn't treated like a plot device in ME3 for new players to explore Shepard ties with Cerberus (Shepard almost got a mind control chip thanks to Miranda so that's fair to question) and had their development elevated to more than a role of a cameo in ME2, we know the Alliance was keeping them in the dark as much as possible to protect the image of their new poster child but imagine had we ran into them and chosen to resolve the situation, as best as it could have been, much like Liara joined us in her excellent DLC mission.

B-but who would not get everything possible inb4 going to earth? How is this hard if you just "finish" the game?

They lowered it from 8000 to 7800. So it’s not much easier.

@@urquijom1 well, at least I'm getting close, the bar for War Assets is almost completely full and I'm either in the high 6000s or low 7000s.

@@Jedi_Spartan I’m around 6800 rn. Currently playing the Citadel dlc. Afterwards I’m gonna have to do a lot of planet scanning to get the rest. Not fond of that. I wish they lowered it a bit more. I feel like 7000 would’ve been a nice round number.

@@urquijom1 forget what I said, I'm currently playing the Citadel DLC and when I last checked War Assets post Horizon, I had over 8100... sort of making me feel guilty about choosing the Renegade option after Grissom to get the biotic company asset given how I've gotten the most Paragon outcomes for the other companion characters (eg: Wrex, Tali etc).

Thanks, I really appreciate it! I'm hoping to get a bump from the Remastered edition too

That's not really reccomended since by letting them live you get the Destiny Ascension

@@jackcassidy9963 isnt it worth less than if you let them die ? 3 fleets x +25 points Mikhailovich 25 points Total is 100 Destiny Ascension - 70 points. So you are net -30 points if you let them live

"you get Admiral Mikhailovich" Yeah well he shouldn't have trash talked my ship and crew.

200 less war assets. That was the nerf. It’s so fucking annoying.

The extended cut does reduce the ems requirement by a lot

Playing Mass Effect is never a waste, even if you have to start over

According to the wiki they lowered it to 3100 effective. 6200 is all you technically need.

really? where does that appear ?! I had no idea:000

so much this poured hundreds of hours in the MP

we are also getting mass effect continued in the future.. at least we can see if ME LE could really change the ending for the New Mass effect contination

@@SirMcLowen sadly only thing le change was to censored Miranda butt kept the ending same

Mostly because the Control Ending is what the Indoctrinated Illusive Man thinks is a great idea, and synthesis is basically turning everyone into Reapers.

Yes. I recall that patch. Maybe it is making things 'Too easy', especially since I actually liked the multiplayer portion on lower difficulties, but I think it is a good decision.

My only theory to why Shepard survives in the destroy ending (with enough war assets) is because the synthetic parts on his body was only there as kind of a jump start for his vitals while at same time repairing the damages sustained from the beginning of ME2, most of those augmentations and synthetics was not needed after Shepard's recovery in ME2. If this theory can't stand on it's own then you may have pointed out a major plot hole, unless anyone here can make a better theory than mine.

During that era EA was making all its games have multiplayer even if it didn't make sense. I never did it either. But i hear it wasn't terrible

The multiple player was not bad it was interesting. Because it was not your standard multiple player. It had different rounds so to speak some where basic just kill the enemy. Then others would have different objectives like everyone has to be in one area for X amount of time to hack something. Basically the more people that is the multiple player had 4 max for each game. But the more people in that area the faster the hack went. Then there was get specific things an carry it to a drop off area. But you could not fight if you had the item so the multiple player was interesting. It was never the same thing each round or wave as they called it. The enemy's also got harder each round or wave you also had different enemy options. Like the Geth or Reepers the ground units an the Collector's. I don't remember but there may of been Cerberus as a option as well it's been years since I played it. But the Reeper enemy units had all the ground unit forms basically if you fought it on the ground. In single player you fought in in multiple player. Well trying to do any an all side adjectives.

bro i just need to know if sepherd will survive the destroy ending and get breath scene with just 6300 war assets if you see my reply kindly reply back i need to know

Thanks!

Did that in Legendary Edition on my first run and got the best ending, proving to Javik that it is possible for Shepard to end the war with their honor intact... despite the fact I chose the Biotic Company asset.

Nope. In synthesis and control ending Shepard dies sadly.

I remember playing as the big Geth guy and just continuously sucking life out of everything on the hardest difficulty in some tight corridor. That one really was OP.

Personally, I see Destroy as the best ending (and in Legendary Edition you can do it without moral sacrifices like the Genophage) as it's been seen by everyone allied against the Reapers as the ONLY option before the Shepard reaches the actual endpoint and - minus sacrificing the Geth and EDI - will maintain/restore the generalised status quo of the final cycle with bonuses like the Krogan being freed from the Genophage and the Quarians returning to Rannoch. Also why does everyone think Synthesis is the best/Paragon ending? It's really vague in how things will work going forward even in the Extended Cut monologue unlike Destroy and Control, almost to stop people from thinking about the option that came out of left field by only giving them surface level details. Also something I've been obsessing over recently is what happens to all the Husks/other Reaper footsoldiers after the Synthesis burst. Control feels like there is large amount of risk to it. As long as Shepard was strong enough to ACTUALLY control them rather than the other way round like TIM and a faction of Protheans mentioned by the VI on Thessia then it could be a positive outcome. Although it's possible that over millenia, species return to various cycles beyond just the Reapers that plagued the galaxy since the fall of the Leviathans (eg: constructing and losing control of AI) and the AI created by Shepard's sacrifice would reluctantly view the Reaper harvests as an inevitably.

​@@Jedi_Spartan It's because the Destroy ending is a quick fix that doesn't solve the problem that started the war in the first place. The Catalyst AI explains this. It stops the Reapers, but the conflict with AI vs CREATORS is free to continue. The Control ending makes Shepard's consciousness the new arbiter in that conflict, which ends the battle versus the reapers AND gives everyone a chance at peace. CHANCE isn't a solution but it's more than nothing. Meanwhile, Synthesis ENDS the conflict all together by hybridizing the milky way species. The explanation isn't vague at all, the catalyst spells it out clearly. Organics reach the perfection they desire by becoming part synthetic, and synthetic life reaches true understanding of organics by becoming part organic. All are now connected as hybrids, and thus.. true and lasting peace. Also "minus sacrificing the Geth and EDI" is kind of a big deal. Glossing over killing one of your companions (a unique intelligent being) and genociding an entire species as collateral damage just to kill the Reapers off when there are other options? I'm not saying it's evil, but that level of not giving a damn and doing what you want because you want it is textbook Renegade.

@@djdaem0nplays Synthesis IS vague in HOW it works and what collateral damage it causes (eg: fates of Reaper victims/footsoldiers). Control rests on a knife's edge based on whether you view it as an illusion imposed on an indoctrinated Shepard (since everyone else who argued for it became indoctrinated too) or that Shepard truly strong enough to become the new Catalyst rather than the Star Child telling them what they want to hear. I'll give you the point about the Geth because I feel bad about using them for War Assets when going with destroy (even though I can have a sense of detachment with certain decisions like them and killing Wrex on Virmire to save Mordin, if not just skip the pretext and let the Quarians destroy them over Rannoch) but I believe, if the situation were explained to her, EDI would agree with the Destroy option as she began to become more human throughout Mass Effect 3 and more accepting of the possibility of self sacrifice where necessary. Along with that, Destroy has the least unknowns of any option as the Catalyst explains the full consequences of what will happen (perhaps to turn Shepard away from it if it was part of an indoctrination plot) and is the option reinforced the most throughout the entire game.

@@djdaem0nplays Also a few points I missed in the last reply: Synthesis feels like a hollow ending because - unlike Control which The Illusive Man mentions in every conversation with Shepard - there is no reference to Synthesis at all in Mass Effect 3. When the Catalyst is explaining the Destroy option to Shepard, Anderson is a representation of it and throughout the series, he's always been presented as the Paragon element/representation of Humanity (with Udina representing the Renegade element in ME1... especially with the all Human Council discussion if the Destiny Ascension was destroyed). Meanwhile - although he isn't shown when the final explanation of the option to my knowledge - The Illusive Man was pushed as the very vocal supporter of the Control option for the entire game while obviously being one of the most Renegade characters in the Trilogy. For the future under Destroy, there may be the risk of AIs becoming a threat again but that may not happen for centuries (and perhaps if AIs are created again then perhaps experiences with the Geth and EDI would allow for organics to pick up on when they have advanced to a state of true consciousness. Along with this, what this ending CAN guarantee is the permanent destruction of the Reapers which have plagued sentient, organic life for untold millenia which is something that has been the overarching objective that Shepard, the Normandy Crew and the galaxy at large have been trying to accomplish for the entirety of Mass Effect 3 and that has been a focus for most of the Trilogy with Anderson's Councilor speech at the end of the first game being a pledge to force the Reapers back into Dark Space and destroy them (something that Udina also references but he's just incompetent and denys the threat until the Reapers attack Earth).

@@Jedi_Spartan I always viewed it that each ending represents who you sympthize the most with, Synthesis is what Saren wanted with "Weakneses of none, strengths of both", Control is what Tim wanted and Destroy is what Shepard been going on about for the entire trilogy. I also think that even the devs tried to push for the destroy ending, because, atleast according to my point of view, during the entire game of ME3 you see the destruction the Reapers cause, everyone who has to die in this fight, the reapers who "annoyingly" position themselves in Rannoch and Tuchanka, I can tell from my experience that after the playthrough I didn't think about the other endings, just destroy the reapers and only partially because Shepard survives.

In the DLC "extended" ending, they show you the relay stations being repaired in a still-image during Admiral Hackett's closing monologue

@@stopefinaround thanks, forgot about that. Haven’t played the game in near a decade.

The multiplayer was pretty popular and is probably still played. Also its not mandatory. "The best ending" is a joke anyway. It looks like a placeholder which they forgot about. It adds practically nothing and if youre hellbent to get it, even then MP is not mandatory.

Basically the decisions here are the same. The war assets increase without the multiplayer.

@@xemera1d does that mean I only need 4000 war assets to get the best ending? Or do I still need 8000 to get the "best ending"

@@henrybartholomew3314 It's the same bro, what they did is that they increased the score gained by task completed. So you can get the 8k+ easily by playing and paying attention. In my first playthrough I got 7845 bc I had different choices but not by much.

Yeah, he was wrong with a number of things In this playthrough.

Did you watch new mass effect game trailer ? Seems like destroy ending is canon

@@danielblau9446 I did, but I meant my comment as more of "its incredulous to me that the destruction ending is canon." The only reason is cause its the only ending Shep could theoretically survive, and god knows Bioware cant make a good ME game without Shep apparently. Just seems so dumb. This means no EDI, geth, or other forms of advanced technology. Why take all these beloved characters and ideas off the table?

It all comes down to interpretation. I believe Destroy is the best but you’re welcome think otherwise. That’s why I love Mass Effect so much. There are so many amazing interpretations

Interesting. Must take a look at this.

There is tons of questions to think about with the Destroy ending, especially some related to the geth and EDI. Plus the geth and EDI are pretty much temporary losses. They are just computer parts and software/coding. They are much easier to be brought back than a species like the asari and turians. And with how advanced technology is in the Mass Effect games, rebuilding the geth and EDI/bringing them back should be very easy to do. Plus there is Hackett saying "and more" during his narration in the epilogue to the Destroy ending/choice. That "and more" could be the geth and EDI. But going back to the questions, there is a few questions to think about that are related to the geth and EDI. How badly were the geth destroyed? How much of EDI was destroyed? The physical body of EDI is just an extension of EDI and the body needs to stay within a certain distance to the Normandy (which is never specified unless I missed something) or else she loses control of the body. Her main core is in the Normandy. So was it the physical body that got destroyed, the main core located on the Normandy, or both? After listening to everyone's thought process when watching their gameplay/reaction videos and breaking down the three choices, it sounds like everyone is just thinking the physical body got destroyed. So I'm going with that the physical body only got destroy. BUT EDI says that she isn't 100% in the physical body. Her main base of operations is still on the Normandy. The body is just an extension and she is only controlling it. Just like Harbinger would "assume control" in Mass Effect 2 and possess the collectors so he could be on the battlefield. But you weren't killing Harbinger. Just the body he possessed/controlled. But the question with EDI is applied to the geth as well. How damaged were they? Were the whole bodies fried or the main key piece, or just a small part that could easily be mass produced and easily replaced? And if EDI's Normandy core was damaged, how badly was it damaged/fried? The whole thing, or just a small piece that could easily be replaced? But even if the geth and EDI were fully wiped out, they are still just parts and software/coding. Shouldn't be too difficult to rebuild the coding/software. Maybe there is a backup somewhere as well and there is some starting point or "save" (meaning pick up where stuff was left off when things were saved, think video game saves). Just like how Maelon's genophage data can be saved/backed up and Mordin is allowed to build from that to create the genophage cure. Then think of the child/catalyst. From what the child/catalyst says, the geth and EDI COULD BE temporary losses. The child/catalyst says that those who survive the destroy option, won't have a problem bringing back what is lost. The child/catalyst is mainly talking about the mass relays, but the child/catalyst says ALL technology that is lost/damaged can be repaired. The geth and EDI are still technology. You can't really trust the child/catalyst either and need to question things since they will say if Destroy is picked, Shepard WILL die. No if's, and's, or but's. But if you have a high amount of war assets and pick Destroy, Shepard lives. So what else could the child/catalyst be lying about? The memorial wall on the Normandy does list EDI if Destroy is picked, but how dead is she really? The physical body? Normandy core? Both? Nothing is ever specified. The Normandy crew, especially Joker could be being too dramatic about the physical body being dead/fried and threw her name up on the wall without stopping and thinking about stuff. But the child/catalyst could be wrong. Maybe the geth and EDI just get temporarily knocked out and part of their systems get fried, but that part could easily be replaced/rebuilt/repaired. Then you got that the child/catalyst is going off of math/calculations. They aren't thinking like an organic. I look at the catalyst/child like they are C-3P0. Threepio is always going off of calculated odds, but isn't thinking like organics are capable of. That's why Han tells Threepio to never tell him the odds. Plus Han is always able to prove Threepio's calculations wrong. So with that, how does the catalyst/child know for sure that a new cycle will start. ALL species are working together. If they need to start from scratch and the geth and EDI are truly dead, then they can all work together to make new synthetics that won't turn into a problem and that will turn on their creators like the geth turned on the quarians. The child/catalyst is only assuming stuff from calculations/math and isn't thinking like an organic. I don't like Control or Synthesis either since Control is what The Illusive Man wanted and Synthesis is what Saren wanted. Both of them were indoctrinated too. Then throw in that the reapers and AI are all adaptive and stuff. So it's possible that the reapers and catalyst/child (who is a reaper itself) could adapt/evolve, find a loophole in things, and then overthrow Shepard, allowing them to regain control of themselves, or turning everyone (in the Synthesis ending) into a massive reaper army and start invading other galaxies. Like Andromeda. I don't like Synthesis either because there will be husk among everyone else. That just seems creepy. Reapers are one thing, but all the husks? No. Get rid of reaper minion like husks. Oh and I find it a little questionable that the child/catalyst lists/mentions Destroy first, making it sound like it's the worst possible choice, especially with doing stuff like saying, "there is another option" or "there is a third option." The child/catalyst is REALLY trying to make Destroy sound bad. Then pay attention to Shepard's eyes and how the catalyst disappears in all the endings. In Control and Synthesis, Shepard's eyes will have that indoctrinated look that Illusive Man and Saren's eyes have when Shepard is being absorbed and right before he is fully absorbs/disappears. Plus the child/catalyst won't disappear right away in those two choices. As for Destroy, Shepard's eyes will remain normal at all times, and the child/catalyst will disappear quickly and in a way that it's mad. So something is off there. Seems like the child/catalyst wants Shepard to join them and the reapers and they don't want to die. Also, if you pay attention to things throughout Mass Effect 3, it kind of hints to Destroy being the correct and possibly the one and only option. There is talks/a theme that every decision will require sacrifices. So with Destroy, that happens to be the loss of the geth and EDI, and Destroy is being foreshadowed. Then there is one one-on-one conversation between Shepard and EDI where EDI will tell Shepard she is okay with dying. She is okay with dying if it means that Joker/Jeff (I think she calls him Jeff) is able to go on living. So that kind of foreshadows the Destroy ending/choice and that EDI will be fine with Shepard picking that choice. Plus Shepard, Hackett, Anderson, James, Ashley/Kaidan, Javik, and a few others (plus everyone military/alliance related) is all "Destroy, Destroy, Destroy" throughout the game while Illusive Man and everyone on his side is all about control, and the child/catalyst even says they control the Illusive Man since he is indoctrinated. So is it The Illusive Man really speaking, or the reapers speaking through him like how Harbinger would "assume control?" So the game is kind of telling you to stay focused on that Destroy option and don't let the reapers or someone indoctrinated trick you. And there is many more hints throughout the three games, especially Mass Effect 3, that hint for you to pick Destroy, foreshadow it, and that it's the best option. I've picked up on anytime Control or Synthesis is being hinted at/foreshadowed, it's always related to enemy/villain characters or someone indoctrinated. EDI is probably the only good character that is talking about/supports Synthesis, but it's implied she supports Destroy as well if you pay close enough attention, especially in that conversation with Shepard where she says she is willing to die if it means Joker gets to survive and go on living. Actually Miranda could be hinting at things as well during the party in the Citadel DLC. She asks Joker about life after EDI and if he'll eventually start a romantic relationship with another organic if EDI can't be there. He says there isn't, but with the Destroy ending, and if EDI is 100% dead, that kind of means he has to move on and should start thinking about life after EDI. I'm a little iffy on the Miranda example it's kind of going in the territory of possibly seeing the future, and Miranda isn't some kind of psychic or anything that can tell the future. But it's still sort of foreshadowing stuff. But yeah. There is a lot to think about when it comes to the Destroy ending/option, and there is more to it than simply "oh, it's the ending/choice where Shepard can live/gets to live." Originally I was all about the whole "Shepard lives" things, but I've done research and paid attention to stuff over the years, and I got more stuff to use to back up why Destroy is the best than just "Shepard lives."

@@projectpat8807 well after the long reading i did, you have a lot of valid points there to back up the destroy ending. And i completely agree with you that are many questions without an answer! What i want from the Devs to do to ME4 is what they did with ME2 & 3, character import! I want to see if what i choose was the correct path for Shepard. For example if you INTENTIONAL killed everyone in ME2 you will have a major impact in ME3 but it will still be playable just not that fun if you saved everyone from the collector assault misson. I want the same for ME4 let me import my choices so i can enjoy the game with the choices i made!!! I don't want to to see Shepard "saying aaahhh yeah i destroy everything Synthetic cause i had no other choice"

same

Certain circumstances, including being a renegade on Mars, will make the player unable to get them to stand down. In this case, if you don't take the renegade interrupt, one of your squadmates shoot them.

@@YourCrazyDolphin Well I'm going to have to do a renegade run, after I finish my paragon run on legendary edition. I have to see this.

@@robertgadling7217 Here's the page explaining exactly how it works- pretty basic score, but some earlier trilogy decisions may prevent this.

@@YourCrazyDolphin What page???

Hmmm, I'll have to test this out. I was under the impression that 3100 would unlock all the endings - Sythesis, Destroy, Control and Refuse, but that Shepard would still die in the Destroy ending unless you had 4000 EMS

Not the devs. Blame EA for forcing them to shoehorn MP in a single player experience, as well as a short development cycle. Basically, blame EA for why ME3 was a meh/10.

@@js1031 I agree

So for Shepard to live in LE is it just 4000 war assets now?

How much do I need?

Welcome aboard! Thanks!

You get more Salarian support if you saved the Council in ME 1 and have Thane around to save the Salarian Councilor.

@@Hartzilla2007 yup. Did all that too