Reminds me of Jorge from Halo: Reach. Gave his life to set off a bomb that would destroy a ship threatening his homeworld. Less then a minute later, a new fleet of Covenant ships drop out of FTL.
+Captain Gray ...Nope. People dont reproduce at the end of their life. Thats like saying "if something happened 750 years ago, its only 10 human generations, because humans today live 75 years average". Since asari enter in the "want-to-be-mother" stage at the age of 350, it probably happened 150 generations ago, at least
***** What i meant was that one generation Asari lives for around 1000 years, when they die a new generation lives for 1000 years, and so on. You see, the way i count this should be pretty obvious. I do not count the "generations" that lived between the year 1 and 1000 in a single Asari's lifetime, if we did then we would have to take EVERY Asari into count, because there are new Asari born every day, every month, every year. So counting a generation the way you do is pretty hard and very inaccurate at best.
Captain Gray ...But is the human definition of "generation", the time betwen 0 and the average time people reproduce (chaging to the "next generation". So the "hard and inaccurate" at the end is actually... inaccurate. I cant say "people are bad", and when someone answers saying "there are multiple types of people", I say "oh, but my definition is different that yours, people only means *this* group of people in particular, because your definition is inaccurate". I didnt wanted to correct anybody, I was just saying that, if you are going to measure time using "generations", you are doing it wrong. If you want to measure it in "lifespan", just use that word. PD: And how its "hard" to measure time in that way? The game gives you all the stages in asari`s life. In fact, i just did it in the first comment.
Asari have psychological development stages, including the Matron stage where they fully mature and have a desire to reproduce. A lot of the Wild child stuff you see with younger Asari's are a biological thing in the Maiden stage based on Curiousity and restlessness. Matron stage usually begins around 350 years but can be triggered earlier if the individual melds frequently. We also have to assume before ftl that they had to reproduce at a consistent rate to maintain resources. Thats also not taking into account longevity before proper technology, though longevity might have to be inferred by such a late mating stage. TL;DR It could be anywhere from 50 generations to 142 generations.
Why is Liara so surprised at Javik's info? The Prothean empire spanned the whole galaxy, it would be strange if they hadn't interfered in some way in asari history.
Not to mention the Athame murals at the temple and her Prothean body. Did no one figure it out before Mass Effect 2 that that's what Protheans looked like?
***** But the scientists can only give out a rough estimate of the info we know, and same should go for the asari. Most of the asari that lived in those prothean years are dead, not to mention that they lacked enough intelligence to figure out about the goddess actually being protheans.
they possibly learned about the protheans from info in the citadel.Their records were in there and i think reapers did not deleted it so they might have thought this was created by them
There was also a line when youre heading to outpost Tyris or Tykis or something Liara - "this is a nightmare" Shepard - "we get to that artifact and we can all wake up!" Javik - "50 000 years later"
Javik is so savage sometimes. “This describes how we were taught the seasons so and grow crops” Javik: “we didn’t want you to starve” “you could only count up to your toes once. We took pity.”
This was an interesting part that gave data in the Mass Effect universe, kind of ironic similar to this planet where god and god(s) in religion are actually extraterrestrials. It must be annoying playing this on the x-box with the contacts going online interrupting your gameplay.
No, Javik absorbed the knowledge of human history and language when he first met Shepard. He even says it himself. The reason Shepard could comprehend him in the flashbacks before that was because of the Prothean cipher.
+I bims This has nothing to do with the in-game lore. sarastian is saying from the game developers point of view, they are referencing Athena as the Asari's goddess.
Agent Washington Hence the term Fission Mailed. It's not a typo, but an actual trope. The failure is necessary to advance the plot. Here's a more technical explanation: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FissionMailed
things that are fucking ugly: -armax arsenal shoulder guards -any armor from kassa fabrication -sniper rilfe's level 5 scope -each and every customized shepard face.
+spagetti001 at least it proves that they are after performance and not aesthetic; same applies to armors with pre built helmets. Not saying I don't agree with you it's just that after ME1 I can't see beauty in stuff anyway
yeah i had just played this part earlier today. something told me to bring Javik on this mission with Liara and my instincts were right on. I played ME3 the first time last year without an import or DLC. now this year im playing it again with ME2 import and DLC and its like playing a whole new game! SO MANY differences! so glad i got into the series
Actually, the Prothean VI was talking about Kai Leng, not Shepard. If Shepard WAS indoctrinated, the VI would have said that right off the bat. But he didn't. INDOCTRINATION THEORY DISPROVED.
And just like that the indoctrination theory is dead: since the artifical intelligence detected the presence of an indoctrination and immediately shut off, if shepard was indoctrinated, the AI would have turned off already
J4kTh3RIpp3r I know this is 4 years later but in the video explaining the indoctrination theory, the guy says that Shepard became fully indoctrinated when he chose either the Control or Synthesis ending. By having the option to destroy the Reapers meant that Shepard was not fully indoctrinated. Kai Leng, however, was.
City is literally burning around they need to find the artifact and exfil as fast as possible, so what does Shepard do, touches every single artifact and stop and listens to a conversation between a prothean and an asari
Thanks for this! I played with Garrus like always, Javik couldn't enter because of Liara, and just realised it would have nice to play with Javik. Indeed, it was!
ya know what would make a great screenshot or background? pause at 0:02, right where Javik is about to check out the war zone and replace his current gun with a Prothean beam rifle and equip it with an Omni tool Blade, I've tried it and it looked badass :)
I'm surprised that Bioware didn't necessarily pursue those ideas but it makes sense since the Prothean cycle ended way before the establishment of Catholicism, Judaism, etc. It would have been interesting but it would likely piss off a bunch of people who are deeply routed to their religion.
Mass effect 3 is such a great game.. i remember playing it and feeling anxiety a the reaper pushing trough the galaxy.. It would have been so great to build the crucible and use it to wipe the invaders somehow in a great battle.. Damn Mass effect.. i miss ya :
Thanks for uploading this. When I saw the Prothean cave drawings I was like, "Damn, I knew I should've brought along Javik." I didn't have to restart just to see what he would say. So thanks again for this upload.
I regretted not bringing him on thessia but Garrus had interesting feedback as well. Still, can't help but love Javik knocking Liara down a peg. She's a good character but still very naive and idealistic to see the truth. She may be knowledgeable about the Protheans but it seems she isn't as smart as her reputation may suggest. Being the daughter of a Matriarch has it's perks ;)
I don't think it's that Liara isn't smart as she seems. I think it's more that admitting to yourself that your people basically had everything handed to them on a silver platter is kind of a hard pill to swallow.
Very little is different. On my first playthrough I had Garrus along with Liara. Liara steps in at the beginning to get Kurin to let you through. Garrus makes the connection of Athame resembling a prothean. The only real change is all the background info of how the Protheans helped the Asari.
Shepard's goal was to destroy the Reapers. When she's atop the Crucible, make a right. Mission accomplished. The others are there to present options for Shepards that may not want to destroy the Reapers. The Illusive Man was rather convincing and the Catalyst assured Shepard that she could control the Reapers. In addition, the Catalyst explains that synthesis is the clear winner and should be picked in all circumstances. It made perfect sense to me then and it still does now.
So glad you made this. I didn't use the Prothean for this mission and seriously regretted it knowing I missed a lot of good dialogue AND forget to same right before to redo it...
It's the Reapers who created and gave the species Mass Relays and the Citadel. It's only fit that as they are destroyed/rid off/gone, their creations and technology go as well
I found it strange how without Javik no one remarked about how much the godesss's looked like Protheans, Liara and Sheperd knew that Collectors were Protheans.
The Cipher is the understanding of the prothean language, the green asari on Feros gives it to Shepard in ME1, and the asari got it from the Thorean, the plant being that devoured and absorbed the dead bodies of the protheans.
I wasn’t looking for the whole Easter egg or wikied it something. I brought Garrus with me as always, but as soon as we said something about Pothean artifact to the lieutenant, I restarted the whole mission just to see what Javik will react to that. Best restart ever did.
@RevanorSzeged the roman were brought down by them because the roman empire had gotten so big and spread out their military so much that holes in their defenses appeared and the attackers took advantage of that, that's how Rome fell
