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Mass Effect 3 - Reviewing All Characters Who Replace Dead Squadmates 

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In this video we'll take a look at all characters who replace Shepard's squadmates if they died during Mass Effect 1 or 2.
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0:00 Introduction
1:10 Wrex - Urdnot Wreav
2:19 Mordin - Padok Wiks
3:31 Grunt - Urdnot Dagg
4:01 Jack - Jason Prangley (aka "Ginger Jack")
4:35 Garrus - General Corinthus
5:07 Tali - Admirals Xen and Raan
6:03 Legion - Geth VI
6:47 Thane - Bailey and Kirrahe
7:35 Miranda - Oriana Lawson
8:02 Jacob - Dr. Webber
8:28 Kasumi - Jondam Bau
9:00 Zaeed - Random Mercs
9:20 Samara and Morinth - Felare
9:45 Conclusion
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@speedyazi5029
@speedyazi5029 2 года назад
The reason why there is like no actual SQUAD replacement for Garrus is because they didn’t expect you to fail that bad.
@toomanydewgongs
@toomanydewgongs 2 года назад
It blows my mind that Garrus is an optional party member in every game yet I can't imagine Mass Effect at all without him.
@YourCrazyDolphin
@YourCrazyDolphin 2 года назад
Same goes for Tali.
@Farzlepot
@Farzlepot 2 года назад
Well that, and he doesn't actually do anything.
@DraconimLt
@DraconimLt 2 года назад
@@Farzlepot Calibrations!
@sagejosh
@sagejosh 2 года назад
@@toomanydewgongs you have to recruit garrus in ME2. its really weird Shepard still recognizes him... like "holy shit are you that totally random cop i snubbed 3 years ago?"
@Ikcatcher
@Ikcatcher 2 года назад
It’s kinda funny how Mass Effect 3 just kinda breaks apart if almost all of your squad mates are dead
@ty738
@ty738 2 года назад
Yeah, all that build up across 2 games just for the third to be full of replacements. It just feels... empty. I tried this once, having all of the replacement squadmates except for miranda, and I felt really dirty. After the playthrough, I took SEVERAL cold showers.
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
You get what you deserve… :D
@Noschool100
@Noschool100 2 года назад
Ya, that's one thing that kind of makes me ehh about the choices. Honestly most of MEs choicest aren't really about different but equally engaging experiences they are more between a more satisfying experience or a lackluster one. The virmire survivor, and kind of killing wrex, and Mordin's death are kind of the only the ones that really feel like a fleshed out experience that don't feel like "the same events play out but just worse."
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
@@Noschool100 Being lazy and losing many squad-mates is not really a major decision path though. I wouldn’t blame the developers for not putting too much efforts into these scenarios most people never see. The popular decisions (paragon and renegade paths) are worked out very well. What we see in this video is only about tying up loose ends without too much fuss, as these are rarely seen. It only looks strange of we intentionally play badly.
@Noschool100
@Noschool100 2 года назад
@@juzoli ya, I mean I get why put more effort into stuff people would see but the imbalance of content is more a trait of how they decided to handle choice. Ashley & kaiden is probable the the biggest equal choice we can really make but the consequences of that is they are basically dropped from me2 and 1/2 of me3 cause development is expensive. So the decision to really flesh out one side of outcomes makes sense financially and it works okay as I think the aspect that draws people to mass effect are characters and setting, but it does cause mass effect to be more of a math test than a choose your own adventure. if you do the correct stuff you get the good outcomes and leaves little reason to deviate from just doing everything and occasionally needing a reputation check to solve any problems.
@amorria
@amorria 2 года назад
"Did you send Jacob into the vents at the end of ME2", I chocked on my tea
@Lord_Phoenix95
@Lord_Phoenix95 2 года назад
He also offers. How can you not!
@Norinia
@Norinia 2 года назад
@@Lord_Phoenix95 Because everyone mourning his cheating ass is just as annoying as his flaunted cheating. I don’t care that it’s never canon anymore on my games. •NEVER FORGIVE• SOB “How long was I supposed to wait, Shepard?” HOW ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE YOU PUT A BUN IN THAT CHEAP SHITTY OVEN??
@Lvl1.Sentry
@Lvl1.Sentry 2 года назад
@@Norinia Yea, fuck Jacob. Worst Character AND worst Romance option in Mass Effect. Hell, he`s worse than even Ashley, Kaidan, AND Morinth. And it`s even worse how Jacob gets to live happily ever after whereas Shepard potential dies.
@monstermash5969
@monstermash5969 2 года назад
@@Norinia yeah when he cheated on my FemShep, I went back to ME2 just to get him killed. I did it by having him get carried away by a seeker swarm. He can join his dad in hell for all I care.
@torbbi1069
@torbbi1069 2 года назад
@@Norinia who exactly is mourning him? can you point me to them? i'm a big fan of jacob and also able to look past bioware's shitty, lackluster, stereotypical writing and i'd love to meet others who also have critical thinking skills :)
@jomnix
@jomnix 2 года назад
The Rannoch arc is incredibly emotionless if you have BOTH Legion and Tali dead.
@alonzorandolph1718
@alonzorandolph1718 2 года назад
That's normally how it plays out for me.
@Sotka_ot_grudi
@Sotka_ot_grudi 2 года назад
@@alonzorandolph1718 Why not creating peace betweeb geth and quarians?
@alonzorandolph1718
@alonzorandolph1718 2 года назад
@@Sotka_ot_grudi I'm the oddball that never recruited Legion and didn't care to keep Tali alive. She always dies in the second game for me even though logically she, being a tech wiz, shouldn't have had that much trouble with a door.
@trazyntheinfinite9895
@trazyntheinfinite9895 2 года назад
@@alonzorandolph1718 you must understand, that door had a handle. And you know how icky these can be....
@mrlittleclone
@mrlittleclone 2 года назад
@@alonzorandolph1718 Bruh just do the loyalty missions in me2
@johnprice6271
@johnprice6271 2 года назад
Padok Wiks is the equivalent of that one friend who is into very strange things, but will take the fall for everyone.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
Must be why I'm so fond of him, I think I'm that type myself lol.
@alliekuma4234
@alliekuma4234 2 года назад
I loved him as much as Mordin and was just as sad when he passed
@seroccoprime2774
@seroccoprime2774 2 года назад
Padok is easily the coolest replacement NPC.
@astralFox
@astralFox 2 года назад
While Mordin is like that awesome asexual who gives you medical advice out of respect for the health and safety for his friends. I love that contrast so much.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
@@astralFox but he's probably not asexual tho. I think he's likely on the more promiscuous side given what we know. Definitely not into Shepard though. He cites "doctor-patient confidentiality a sacred trust" but I think he's letting her down easy with banter. Don't think the ol' "alien space opera" holds as much novelty for him as it does for hungry hungry Shepard, lol. On a side note how funny would it be if they made a new protagonist who yeah will save the galaxy and everything but aside from that just leans into the whole "bang aliens" stuff? Like isn't even coy about it. None of this one-person romance locking, I'm trying to experience the galaxy here! That'd be damn hilarious right?
@copilots3159
@copilots3159 2 года назад
Dude, Shepard's reaction and unnatural stillness after oriana and her dad fall out the window is hilarious.
@Jarsia
@Jarsia 2 года назад
Ash "Shepard?(waves hand in front of his face) OK, who put the commander in a stasis field?"
@dianabarnett6886
@dianabarnett6886 2 года назад
Shepard has seen a lot of folks die at that point. Just a drop in the ocean.
@Tumeq
@Tumeq 2 года назад
I can't take this "NOOO!!" seriously after watching Gamer Poop. It was just really hard before because it's so hammy, but now it's impossible.
@Jovian999
@Jovian999 2 года назад
@@Tumeq I care about you -Ash- Miranda *DAMNIT*
@Jarsia
@Jarsia 2 года назад
@@Tumeq Garrus "Are you ready to be a...woman" Shepard "NOOO!!!"
@Flufux
@Flufux 2 года назад
It's good that Mordin's replacement Padok is the best substitute character in the game considering that Mordin himself is the most likely squadmate to die during the Suicide Mission.
@jojotheswede8444
@jojotheswede8444 2 года назад
he died for me :(
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
Yeah you have to be quite careful. I suppose with his attitude toward Kirrahe, it kinda makes sense that he's not so good at "holding the line"? Thinks it's all chest thumping, military bravado (his words). So when it comes to needing it... not the most survivable. Very good choice to send back with the crew, if everyone surviving is what you're aiming for. He can handle that. At the same time I can kinda understand the relative lack of effort put into Dagg, as it's actually quite difficult to get Grunt killed unless you just don't open his pod (which I'd also say is a very unlikely choice to make). Possible but requires some planning (my current Shep's an "Earth First" type so she's completely bonkers evil and wants all the aliens killed).
@nathanmaxtro1
@nathanmaxtro1 2 года назад
Yup, the first time I played the Suicide Mission, Zaeed died because apparently he was a bad choice for squad leader; that loss I didn't care about. Then with the stand off scene Mordin was the only other death then I looked for a guide and reloaded the save.
@pauls478
@pauls478 2 года назад
Yeah. That's why my Mordin always takes the rescued crewmates back to Normany. :)
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
@@nathanmaxtro1 Zaeed the reckless merc who usually works alone? Probably not a good squad leader, yeah. What surprised me more and hit me harder on my first playthrough was Garrus being a bad tech expert choice. He's always calibrating! But I should've remembered. He's always calibrating guns. Not doors.
@Arijit_Das_
@Arijit_Das_ 2 года назад
The only advantage of Wreav is that he's too dumb to know the truth about the sabotage, which isn't that much to go for as most players would choose to cure the genophage.
@UMTongo
@UMTongo 2 года назад
And that you can convince mordin to not die trying to cure it
@carlsiouxfalls
@carlsiouxfalls 2 года назад
I'd bet more players are willing to sabotage it if Wreav is the leader, being a big jerk and planning a future war against the rest of Council space.
@dianabarnett6886
@dianabarnett6886 2 года назад
Alright. I'm doing it. I'm actually gonna do it this time. I'm gonna kill Wrex and Mordin. God help me.
@knixerino7463
@knixerino7463 2 года назад
@@dianabarnett6886 Actually if u kill Wrex and destroy the Cure in ME2 u dont have to kill Mordin in Me3 :)
@dianabarnett6886
@dianabarnett6886 2 года назад
@@knixerino7463 I'm going for tragedy here.
@LenaVoices
@LenaVoices 2 года назад
"In the interest of science, how do Krogan mate?" "Very clumsily!" Oh my goodness, I love Eve so much. One of my favorite characters, she's such a great character. She truly is the Krogan Queen 👑
@hellhound9362
@hellhound9362 2 года назад
Barakha I believe her name is, or something along them lines,
@LenaVoices
@LenaVoices 2 года назад
@@hellhound9362 Bakara???? Idk I like calling her Eve. Short and Sweet
@hellhound9362
@hellhound9362 2 года назад
@@LenaVoices aye, eve is easy to say, but bakara is krogan, lol as wrex would rudely say 🤣
@LenaVoices
@LenaVoices 2 года назад
@@hellhound9362 that's entirely fair. Wether she's Eve or Bakara, I love her and she is one of my favourite characters
@hellhound9362
@hellhound9362 2 года назад
@@LenaVoices may see more of her in the new mass effect depending whether she survived for you or not,
@ThrdSonofSparda
@ThrdSonofSparda 2 года назад
As Wrex said about Wreav "That guy was a pain in the ass anyways." I'll take my trigger happy, shotgun wielding, illustrious leader Krogan any day. Wrex is always welcome on my ship.
@paolopesare3566
@paolopesare3566 2 года назад
First time I played ME 3 I didn't import any save. When I found out he died on Virmire I was mad. Wreav is an asshole
@mencot89
@mencot89 2 года назад
i love wrex and cant imagine progressing the game without him. in all my playthroughs i always keep him and garrus
@jamesherb4384
@jamesherb4384 2 года назад
@@paolopesare3566 the fact that the default is wrex dying says a lot about bioware, honestly. their default imports are always so miserable.
@balsasjekloca9308
@balsasjekloca9308 2 года назад
@@jamesherb4384 that's their way of saying "You should have played the other games, you jackass"
@mwrench4185
@mwrench4185 Год назад
In Mass Effect 1 Wrex tells you he kills civilians and robs cargo ships as a merc. He's a scumbag. Granted, Wreav is no better, like all krogans. Curing the genophage? lol Who would do that.
@magic713m
@magic713m 2 года назад
I really like that both Padok and Mordin have very understandable reasons for curing the genophage. For Mordin, it's more of a personal drive to fix something he views as a mistake. For Padok, it is more of a general ethical issue of the Salarians interference with Korgan, that is still very believable and not forced.
@Youtube_is_Trash
@Youtube_is_Trash 2 года назад
Nope, for Padok it's kink
@luske2
@luske2 2 года назад
I actually didn't like Mordin a lot so I let him die in ME2 and my first ever ME3 playthrough was with Padok and I honestly quite liked him. It felt a bit weird that he got the big emotional sacrifice since I never got to know him all that well. Other than that he was a nice character. More sociable than Mordin for sure.
@brixan...
@brixan... Год назад
I feel like most people would support that... Undoing the infertility of an entire race especially after they defeated the Rachni... Very easy to land on that side
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 11 месяцев назад
@@luske2 How did you not like Mordin?
@yeahright8700
@yeahright8700 2 года назад
A major thing left out of the commentary on the Geth VI I'd say is the heartbreaking Shepard interactions with it, if Legion was recruited but died on the Suicide Mission (happened on my first playthrough). Shep numerous times will try to be buddy-buddy with the VI, and it just... rejects them every time. It's a very interesting dynamic with Shepard grappling with the imperfect resurrection of an old friend. "We fought the Collectors together! We were friends, Legion!" "And then we died." gets me every time.
@vc180191
@vc180191 2 года назад
Padok also drops a nice bit of Krogan Culture on us by explaining how the Krogans name their children; all the males of the clan would get together for a belching contest, the sound the loudest belch makes becomes the new Krogan's name.
@winterviveca5976
@winterviveca5976 5 месяцев назад
What
@TheWelshGeth
@TheWelshGeth 2 года назад
Been playing ME for years and there's still stuff I don't know about. That's what's great about this channel teaching me new stuff.
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 2 года назад
Thanks dude! I appreciate that.
@timlamiam
@timlamiam 2 года назад
I just can't make the shitty wrong choices just to see what happens so thank god we have Big Dan to do it for us.
@thecousinbellic
@thecousinbellic 2 года назад
Just today, I replayed the ME3 ending and got a scene where they said 50% of Hammer landed. I have never gotten that scene before.
@nathanmaxtro1
@nathanmaxtro1 2 года назад
@@timlamiam Serious, I can't imagine continuing a game where Garrus dies.
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
@@timlamiam It took me 3-4 playthrough to be mentally prepared for the bad decisions. Then I did 2 such playthroughts. One speedrun with 0 sidequests and conversations. And one which was completionist, but all the bad choices (betray Wrex, bad choices on suicide mission, kill the real rachni but release the clone rachni, send Legion to Cerberus etc…). It’s also fun:) But now I have to went with another good playthrough.
@nathantower5565
@nathantower5565 2 года назад
4:25 "Homeboy gets ganked by a Cerberus trooper" Geez lol I never realized prangley is popped by just one trooper in that cutscene.
@sonchoydas
@sonchoydas 2 года назад
Later cutscenes in the shuttle ride is emotional too.
@victorgealtach9574
@victorgealtach9574 2 года назад
Garrus, Tali, Wrex, Miranda, Kasumi, Jack, Grunt, Legion, Mordin, and Zaeed were such an integral part of my Mass Effect experience that I honestly forget it's even possible for them to die.
@solod69
@solod69 2 года назад
All right exept Kasumi, empty character, dont even remember her looks, never used her.
@LORDdrPepper
@LORDdrPepper 2 года назад
@@solod69 cap
@Lord_Phoenix95
@Lord_Phoenix95 2 года назад
I've never played with Kasumi or Zaeed.
@victorgealtach9574
@victorgealtach9574 2 года назад
I liked Kasumi because of her loyalty mission, it was a fun little heist side quest that lowered the "we're all gonna die, but we'll die swinging" vibe everyone threw at me. Zaeed...well I'll admit he was mostly just filled my the 'grumpy uncle' void since Wrex didn't join me.
@Jade_Raven
@Jade_Raven 2 года назад
I didnt have kasumi's dlc, she seems alright though But Zaeed, I did his loyalty just for completion/suicide safety sake, but thats the only time I ever even looked at him, he just seemed kinda generic and out of place in the squad
@Rares_G4H
@Rares_G4H 2 года назад
I can't play Mass Effect 3 without Garrus or Tali. Even if there's an option to get them killed on the Collector base, I just hate the fact that this is even possible.
@launcesmechanist9578
@launcesmechanist9578 2 года назад
Yeah, you'd think those two would at least have some sort of plot armor but then again, the devs did want you to feel the weight and responsibilities of your choices.
@Loona10
@Loona10 2 года назад
Me neither
@shylogik
@shylogik 2 года назад
I don’t like that’s it’s possible not because I don’t want them to die, but because they could have died means that any major importance in the plot is removed for any possible sequels, like Garris for example, besides being a bro like always, he has like 0 plot significance, same with pretty much all the other squad mates introduced in mass effect 2, they basically just get like a side mission where they say hi, or if they are dead are just replaced like no big deal.
@Skull.man00
@Skull.man00 5 месяцев назад
First time I finished MS 2, actually only Garrus and Tali survived 😂. Then I reloaded and finished all loyalty missions. Then only Mordin died
@bwright1991
@bwright1991 2 года назад
Bailey and Kirrahe also replace Thane even if he survived ME2 but you forget to meet with him at the hospital before Cerberus attacks the citadel.
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 2 года назад
Correct
@covexvortex
@covexvortex 2 года назад
See, I must have messed smth up in ME1, bc I accidentally forgot to visit the citadel before the attack, but I didn't get Kirrahe
@jeffbezos2960
@jeffbezos2960 2 года назад
I didn't visit him because I was doing the genophage question when I got the message and was on the last mission so I waited till I finished to go visit him but when I went got back to the citadel it was under attack so I didn't get to see my favorite companions death scene
@sicko_ani
@sicko_ani 2 года назад
@@covexvortex If you send Kaidan to the bomb and Ashley to assist captain Kirrahe, you have to save her to save him by helping the soldiers. If you prefer Kaidan, you can switch them around, but Kirrahe is at the same place, not by the bomb.
@motodog242
@motodog242 2 года назад
@@covexvortex Yep, I fucked up too. You NEED to quickly kill everything and everyone on your way to talking to the reaper, to save Kirrahe. Never knew he could be saved until I saw a video of him taking a bullet in ME3.
@Kattbirb
@Kattbirb 2 года назад
It kinda makes sense that Shepherd might not have much reaction to Raan's possible death at the end without Tali. Shepherd would have seen up to four people die by suicide via gunshot at that point.
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 2 года назад
When you put it that way, it's actually really sad.
@Kattbirb
@Kattbirb 2 года назад
@@henryviiifake8244 Yeah, it is.
@torbbi1069
@torbbi1069 2 года назад
who are the other 2 if you don't mind? i only know of raan and samara
@Kattbirb
@Kattbirb 2 года назад
@@torbbi1069 It's up to three more, now that I count them. Fai Dan of Zhu's Hope, Saren and the Illusive Man all may die via self-inflicted gunshot in addition to Samara and Raan. With all the backstories available and so much trauma through the series, Shepherd can potentially be a mess of psychological problems.
@torbbi1069
@torbbi1069 2 года назад
@@Kattbirb ah okay, thanks for the refresher! agreed
@leprechaunsalwayswin7595
@leprechaunsalwayswin7595 2 года назад
Imagine playing mass effect 1 without realising there's an explosive shot on the mako
@alvardiez838
@alvardiez838 2 года назад
wait what
@the_biggest_chungus7508
@the_biggest_chungus7508 2 года назад
I only realized it in my second run
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 2 года назад
Explosive shot? You mean like the tank cannon?
@levicarney1162
@levicarney1162 2 года назад
Just discovered it recently after years of playing.
@oliverguennewig1894
@oliverguennewig1894 2 года назад
Don't need to imagine.
@slobiden.2593
@slobiden.2593 2 года назад
It always baffled me how Admiral Raan was less useful than ordering The quatrains to stand down than Tali.
@jamesherb4384
@jamesherb4384 2 года назад
it wasn't her being less useful, but having less reason to. tali only stood by you in the argument for peace because of how she came to see legion as more than just a machine.
@pearsemolloy9656
@pearsemolloy9656 2 года назад
As much as I love Mordin, with Padok Wiks being a great character in his own right I think it’s worth letting Mordin die at least once just to experience him.
@TheSorrel
@TheSorrel 2 года назад
Since Mordin dies when you as much as look at him funny at the end of 2, thats good to hear.
@pearsemolloy9656
@pearsemolloy9656 2 года назад
@@TheSorrel aye his easy death is why when I’m wanting him to live I almost always send him on escort without even thinking 😂
@erickpoorbaugh6728
@erickpoorbaugh6728 2 года назад
I sent him as the escort in my first playthrough because I thought the crew might need medical attention after their ordeal and Mordin’s status as a brilliant xenobiologist made him uniquely qualified to examine them for any hidden effects of their captivity. It turned out to be the best decision, just not for the reason I gave.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
@@erickpoorbaugh6728 that's a great headcanon though.
@fl1ckr145
@fl1ckr145 2 года назад
@@erickpoorbaugh6728 I had him go because the escort was supposed to sneak the people out and who better for that job than one of the best former STG agent, but yeah your headcannon sounds way cooler
@Viper631
@Viper631 2 года назад
Urdnot Dagg- "Time to die!" Shepard- "That's the spirit" Dagg- "No I mean me... I'M about to die!!"
@billsutherby
@billsutherby 2 года назад
Jondum Bau's complete passivity and lack of struggling or fighting back when the random C-Sec guy was choking him to death always makes me laugh my ass off. You're a Spectre, dude, handle this situation. If they wanted to make it more believable. Have the random C-Sec guy be the one at the terminal and you don't suspect him. Then the Hanar says "My colleague has just uploaded the virus." That's when the camera focuses on C-Sec guy. Shepard can go take out the C-Sec guy and have the Hanar use his tentacles to immobilize and strangle Bau. If you've talked to Zaeed in ME2, he mentions that Hanar are surprisingly strong and have good grip. So this would pass as possibly threatening to a Spectre. Much more than a random red shirt C-Sec guy at least.
@r0w5tortion84
@r0w5tortion84 2 года назад
man, I freaking loved Dagg. He left a fairly big impression on me in the short time he was given. Yeah, he's a stereotypical Krogan in many regards, but unlike most of them, he's not an asshole in the least. He just likes fighting. A LOT. And there's something really engaging about someone who seems to be enjoying himself so much. He really did die doing what he loved most. Plus, he seems pretty honorable, a trait I usually value a lot Definitely among my top 4 Krogans, and part of a very short list of Krogan I think are worth a damn.
@bearlean6214
@bearlean6214 2 года назад
Just seen Dagg on RU-vid, but god I Loved Him, fore sure he's a sterotyp - but he does the Job great. Some Krogan I would like to have at my site in such a war.
@Insanemasters
@Insanemasters 2 года назад
Still Grunt is my boi.
@Milkshakeenthusiast
@Milkshakeenthusiast Месяц назад
Dagg is my fav Krogan. He is just a soldier doing his job, helping you out. No fuss, no annoyances, just an outstanding Krogan who knows his assignment. With the other Krogans, you always get to hear their grievances or just find a way to get under your skin (even if it's unintentional). I was pretty sad when we left him to die. He would have made a fine addition to the team, if not assets. As for Wreav, I would be more surprised if he actually gave a damn about Dagg. Dagg may be that fallaway character, but he is probably the most memorable Krogan for me, even tho the Rachni mission didn't matter much
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 2 года назад
1:10 Wreav is so frustrating that I decided to help Aria retake her couch midway through the Genophage arc. 8:28/9:00 Are these just the default in original Mass Effect 3 for players who didn't purchase the respective ME2 DLCs?
@JEBERNARD
@JEBERNARD 2 года назад
For Kasumi & Zaeed, if you never brought the DLC or they died in ME2 then those are the replacements regardless
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 2 года назад
@@JEBERNARD thought so.
@SuperSaiyan3985
@SuperSaiyan3985 2 года назад
I never had anyone die during my playthrough and I'm glad for that, but man, I wish I got to know some of these characters!
@batmanthe
@batmanthe 2 года назад
They could have inspired like a whole 10% more playthroughs of the game if you could invite Mordin to the Citadel DLC party after keeping him alive.
@majormononoke8958
@majormononoke8958 11 месяцев назад
or legion.
@sirpiken
@sirpiken 2 года назад
it's amazing how much extra work they made for themselves by having soo many squadmates that can kick the bucket.
@10Adragon
@10Adragon 2 года назад
In my opinion, Xen is pretty damn good as a character, probably one of the most unique ones in ideology amongst her people, plus Morrigan's voice gives her an extra edge. Unfortunately we can only see more of her if Tali dies.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
Great character in the same vein as Udina, I always thought. A complete and utter asshole, just a very satisfying one to butt heads against.
@carlsiouxfalls
@carlsiouxfalls 2 года назад
I love Admirals Raan and Xen, mostly based on the wonderfully unique female voices the two actresses have.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
@@carlsiouxfalls definitely a big plus in both cases!
@YourCrazyDolphin
@YourCrazyDolphin 2 года назад
She has a lot of dialogue on the Normandy if Tali's alive, too. Including mention that she used to dissect her plush toys as a child.
@shannaclankie184
@shannaclankie184 2 года назад
Claudia Black also voiced Liara's dad and the difference is crazy. But on a side note - I loved her voice so much from DA, that I looked up her other film roles. Her character on Farscape is epic. I definitely recommend it. She's even a more amazing actor than just a voice.
@janeshepard9549
@janeshepard9549 2 года назад
Bioware punishes in the sequel if you get squadmates killed.
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes. It all makes sense. Part of Shepard’s success was coming from the great team he has built.
@jomnix
@jomnix 2 года назад
Except with mordin: padok is far better.
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
@@janeshepard9549 I just recommended it on another thread. I didn’t try it yet, but I plan to do it on my current playthrough.
@janeshepard9549
@janeshepard9549 2 года назад
@@juzoli It's worth it ;)
@juzoli
@juzoli 2 года назад
@@janeshepard9549 I don’t promise to not use the resurrect all option in the end though:D It depends on what happens to Garrus. I kind of want to see Mordin die though, after seeing this video.
@xellotath863
@xellotath863 2 года назад
Iirc Falere has a line where she mentions that Shepard got Samara killed if she dies during the suicide mission. Dunno what she says if you never recruit Samara though.
@dirtysanchez654
@dirtysanchez654 2 года назад
Garrus and Tali are two of my favorite characters🙂❤️😊 thanks for this awesome video BigDanGaming 💯🔥🙃
@nam9085
@nam9085 2 года назад
wow garrus and tali are your favorites? you're so quirky and unique
@dirtysanchez654
@dirtysanchez654 2 года назад
@@nam9085 Your IQ does not even make a respectable earthquake.”
@nam9085
@nam9085 2 года назад
@@dirtysanchez654 At least I know what a quotation mark is like hello.. why is there a random quotation mark at the end? 😭 Did you steal that comeback from a website or something? LMFAO
@anthonyernst999
@anthonyernst999 6 месяцев назад
Bro who cares​@@nam9085
@AdmiralHalimesh
@AdmiralHalimesh 2 года назад
Still breaks my heart if you betray Wrex in ME3 and sabotage the cure. He finds out and confronts you on the Citadel, and you have to kill him
@richieclark882
@richieclark882 2 года назад
that confrontation is so brutal
@foolisnoteighteenyet
@foolisnoteighteenyet 2 года назад
I doubt I'll ever be strong enough to do such a playthrough
@SpectreRyder
@SpectreRyder Год назад
I did that once....legit shed a tear. I was actually talking to the game saying "Don't do this Wrex. Please don't make me do this."
@justpassingby298
@justpassingby298 Месяц назад
I will say I do wish there was a way to have both of them by the end, maybe something even more difficult than the requirements for quarian-geth peace. But oh well, guess it does make for a more catching game if you have to make sacrifices for the greater good
@Mercurio2435
@Mercurio2435 2 года назад
I love how they made it safe to kill off Jacob 🤣😂
@CoryMassacre2
@CoryMassacre2 2 года назад
Thane survived my Mass Effect 2, but I never noticed him in the hospital before the Cerberus attack. Kirrahe stood in during the attack as if Thane was dead, but Shepard still said "That was for Thane, you son of a bitch!" when killing Kai Leng. It confused that hell out of me when I played!
@clay1430
@clay1430 2 года назад
On my playthroughs without Thane Shepard would say "That was for Thessia you son of a bitch" which I've honestly always preferred since it showed how much Shepard cared for people completely unrelated to them. I'm guessing that since you kept Thane alive in the save the game just assumed you met up with him and the dialog was picked the moment the game started.
@zafelrede4884
@zafelrede4884 9 месяцев назад
You never read your emails, do you?
@tmytyson
@tmytyson 2 года назад
Thank goodness this guy was willing to let the squad die to find out what happens because I sure didn't have the guts to. Also poor Kirrahe at 7:10. "Hold the line" to the bitter end.
@FirestormDDash
@FirestormDDash 2 года назад
Hope the new mass effect has such a dynamic choice and effect system. Even for a first playthrough, having a bad choice feel worse later, would be inspiring.
@tylerfrizzell3319
@tylerfrizzell3319 2 года назад
Imagine how much more fleshed out it could have been provided the not having like 18 .months to make the entire game
@Andre80.5
@Andre80.5 2 года назад
I never understood why they gave to developers this kind of deadline... Cost cutting is never a good option if you are known as the best...but EA is such a joke and ruined BioWare
@gibberconfirm425
@gibberconfirm425 2 года назад
@@Andre80.5 Seems to me the original sin behind Bioware's troubles was these games just not selling quite as well as you might imagine. Even like Fallout: New Vegas might've sold 3x the copies of Mass Effect 2. So the classic Bioware game design, after several of them, just deemed not lucrative enough. Kinda sad and shitty.
@DexterGrifFTW
@DexterGrifFTW 2 года назад
I’ve been looking for a video on this for so long man
@gabrielrussell5531
@gabrielrussell5531 Год назад
It's so weird that Tali is a full, permanent squadmate in 3, since she has the highest chance of dying: She can die to a lack of ship upgrades, and has the second lowest "hold the line" score behind Mordin. Mordin however will likely be safe in your squad, or escorting the cr3w.
@Deception975
@Deception975 2 года назад
If I remember correctly, you can still have Kirrahe show up to save the councilor. Even if Thane is still alive, by not talking to Thane in Mass Effect 3.
@jamesherb4384
@jamesherb4384 2 года назад
you can. though it doesn't do anything to keep thane alive.
@dreamfantasy788
@dreamfantasy788 2 года назад
@@jamesherb4384 That's true. The reason being is because Thane was in the final stages of Kepral's Syndrome and he required daily treatment, so eventually, he would have died during the game
@TheRomanRuler
@TheRomanRuler Год назад
Viks is so good that i wish we could have had both him and Scientist Salarian at the same time.
@rellyrell1522
@rellyrell1522 2 года назад
You finally made the video. Thanks Dan. Thank you for accepting my suggestion
@SithisXVII
@SithisXVII Год назад
5:51 that look Shepard gave her after she offed herself was hilarious. 🤣
@nickllama5296
@nickllama5296 2 года назад
I've played ME through probably a dozen times or more, and most of this stuff I've never seen before. I just can't bear to let any of my homies die! Good video!
@vincentraymond5536
@vincentraymond5536 Год назад
I kept everyone alive and was looking for a video exactly like this, thank you.
@judgegreg5508
@judgegreg5508 2 года назад
This is the video I've been waiting for.
@thesnep4757
@thesnep4757 2 года назад
Dude simply mentioning the scene with Legion and what he says when deciding what happens in the Quarian vs. Geth war has me on the verge of tears.
@avb19d6
@avb19d6 2 года назад
I genuinely like Kirrahe “holding the line” till the end, more then Thane.
@thepredatorgamer3989
@thepredatorgamer3989 Год назад
The reason there wasn't an actual person to replace Garrus (like how Wiks replaced Mordin or Wreav replaced Wrex) is because they didn't expect anyone would want to kill him... Especially not those who wanted to romance him. But since there was a possibility of him accidentally dieing in ME2 they just gave the lines over to Corinthis.
@godsamongmen8003
@godsamongmen8003 2 года назад
You could finish ME2 without ever recruiting Tali. I never did that, and I wonder if Tali would be there in ME3?
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 2 года назад
I have a video on that actually :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xHsxl81VWoQ.html TLDR - she doesn't :/
@kamata93
@kamata93 2 года назад
Hey Dan! I have an awesome idea for the next video! You know that you can replace Doctor Chakwas in ME3 with some other younger doctor (can't remember her name). You could make a video showing differences if you have Chakwas and when you instead chose the other one. Just FYI if you are wondering about the next video.
@christineherrmann205
@christineherrmann205 2 года назад
You can choose Dr. Michel in Huerta.
@carly7522
@carly7522 2 года назад
What??????
@OriginalKasym
@OriginalKasym Год назад
One thing I love about Padok Wiks is his interesting views on the universe. He's a scientist, so he looks at life with a logical and academic outlook. But he's also very spiritual, believing that our actions have a lasting effect in the universe. Both of them helped create the genophage, and Mordin cures it because of his regrets, but Padok does it because he believes he has a moral obligation to fix it.
@jakofthefrost
@jakofthefrost 2 года назад
Every time I watch your videos I always get a big sense of deja vu despite it being a new video 😂 I have no idea why
@snipedude4953
@snipedude4953 Год назад
I've played the Mass Effect trilogy numerous times and I've never lost any companion. I didn't know there where replacements, so your video is very informative to me.
@ClassySithLady
@ClassySithLady 2 года назад
So it just zaps all of the emotion from the choices that matter in me3
@carlsiouxfalls
@carlsiouxfalls 2 года назад
That emotion was already spent when those companions died. Now the cold choices are just what's best for earth.
@HighHeelKnight
@HighHeelKnight 2 года назад
I made sure to keep all of my team members alive in original release of ME2, so I could have them all in ME3. I didn't learn that there were substitute characters in ME3 until last year (2020). I felt like Sally Field in restaurant dinner scene in MRS DOUBTFIRE... "THE WHOLE TIME!? THE WHOLE TIME!? THE WHOLE TIME!?"
@christoferrage
@christoferrage 2 года назад
I like that you make these videos. Because no matter how many times I replay the games I always have to make sure everyone lives no matter what lol
@CityscapeMuse
@CityscapeMuse Год назад
I would have never seen most of these, so...thank you! Like, I wondered! But had no idea how they fit in all those possibilities!
@Flufux
@Flufux 2 года назад
It wasn't there considering the footage in the video used male Shepard, but in the scene where Traynor talks to Shepard instead of Garrus, if you play as Femshep, you get a somewhat amusing scene of Traynor being...ahem...'distracted'...by Shepard's bottom. Definitely not worth killing Garrus for, but rather amusing nonetheless.
@CowboyBebop262
@CowboyBebop262 2 года назад
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that, lol
@RavenWhisper0
@RavenWhisper0 2 года назад
If Padok Wiks is the second Wrex's source of information in STG, in case Mordin is dead, does Wrex find out about your betrayal when you choose not to cure the genophage?
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 2 года назад
He does. Wrex will say "Wiks wasn't my only source in STG" during the confrontation. The scene will play out basically the same. I touch on it in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2mOnPr4rqdw.html
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 года назад
Tbh, Wrex having so many salarian sources is bs in the first place. Even if you whiped out all sources that Wrex had, he would have bugged Normandy SR2 while being only on Normandy SR1 and Illusive man thought it was a feature of the ship AND would recreate the bugs OR Wrex would hack EDI with his omnitool and gain the information. Or he would pay the Shadow broker for the Info with developers forgetting that the Shadow broker is Liara. Seriously, ME3 has more plot holes and plot devices than I ever imagined. They simply had to make a lot of shortcuts in order to make it in 2 years.
@RavenWhisper0
@RavenWhisper0 2 года назад
@@BigDanGaming Damn, Wrex truly is much more thoughtful than his brother
@titanhades4331
@titanhades4331 2 года назад
@@Dark_Voice Actually, it's not hard to imagine Wrex having a few Salarian contacts. You just proved this by showing how practical he is.
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 года назад
@@titanhades4331 I didnt prove anything. All I said was that its ridiculous something like this would be possible or would go past EDI unnoticed. Him hacking EDI is bs outright.
@hellarox2854
@hellarox2854 Год назад
About this from 9:45 there is one dialogue. Falere mentioned that she've heard her mother was working with shephard and she died on collectors base and it appear only in this outcome.
@storminmay
@storminmay Год назад
Thanks for going over these so I never have to sacrifice my besties myself ❤️
@boxhead411
@boxhead411 2 года назад
Just saying.... Totally felt ya when you said, "Goddess forbid" during Garrus's.... Ahem.... Death.....
@nathangordon4891
@nathangordon4891 2 года назад
Padok is a great character, I would’ve loved to see him and Mordin interact
@anonymousplatypusplato3177
@anonymousplatypusplato3177 2 года назад
Good vid, this felt like it was almost an entirely new story when I saw this I knew a few of these but never saw most cause I always try to save everyone.
@nottelling4828
@nottelling4828 2 года назад
Yeah, I don't have the desire to lose a squad mate for a bland experience in ME3. Besides, it makes Citadel:Shore Leave that much more depressing. In my very first play through YEARS ago, I lost Wrex on Virmire. I didn't realize that side missions were that important. I also lost a few squad mates during the Collector Base on more than one occasion (Garrus once, Mordin a few times, and Jacob once, I think). To date, I haven't played through the trilogy with a lost squad mate (Kaiden notwithstanding). I don't have the heart for it, I guess.
@rboehm13
@rboehm13 2 года назад
These videos are like reading the pages you didn’t turn to in a choose you own adventure book!
@rockets529
@rockets529 2 года назад
This is what makes these games so great, idk how many times I’ve replayed the trilogy and always find something new or something I haven’t done
@themarathonman2874
@themarathonman2874 2 года назад
When I first played Mass effect 2 and 3 it simulated all my actions in ME1 it simulated that I killed Wrex on Ilos and let Ashley die on Virmire. So when I played through these two games I liked Weeav a lot but had no idea one of the GOATS Wrex was even a character until I replayed the trilogy. Ashley too. Mass Effect is amazing
@willdixon7564
@willdixon7564 2 года назад
You lack of love for ash is unacceptable
@Wtfgladiator
@Wtfgladiator 9 месяцев назад
It does make you appreciate how much detail BioWare did for mass effect even you didn’t get everyone killed
@amc998
@amc998 2 года назад
Quite interesting. Thank you for your work :)
@carloscatarino7890
@carloscatarino7890 2 года назад
I had a few of these outcomes during some of my playthroughs just to see how it played out. But I never had the guts so let either Garrus or Tali die during the suicide mission. Now that I watched this, I'm glad I didn't.
@travishamel7594
@travishamel7594 2 года назад
I played ME3 before any of the others. For a while, I thought most of these were the main characters
@jefersonmartins6471
@jefersonmartins6471 2 года назад
Yep! And you learned your lesson: 'Never start a trilogy by the third!'
@aleyzeeo-aleyzee2101
@aleyzeeo-aleyzee2101 2 года назад
What efforts have been behind this scrutinr. Nice
@INCONTINENS
@INCONTINENS 2 года назад
I don’t know why but “what’s up everyone, big Dan here” gets me so hyped 😂
@winternet9478
@winternet9478 2 года назад
Everytime he says the line it feels like a big event is about to happen
@julianofcintra662
@julianofcintra662 2 года назад
In my latest Playthrough i will meet nearly all of them. Only Tali, Legion and Garrus survived
@JenMaxon
@JenMaxon 2 года назад
You monster you
@julianofcintra662
@julianofcintra662 2 года назад
@@JenMaxon i know. Maybe i revive Grunt and Jack with my Saveeditor
@clay1430
@clay1430 2 года назад
How did you manage to get Miranda killed? I've been playing these games for nearly a decade and even on my worst run she somehow got away just fine.
@julianofcintra662
@julianofcintra662 2 года назад
@@clay1430 Dont make her Loyal and bring her to the End Fight.
@emirayub9945
@emirayub9945 2 года назад
For these things I love Mass Effect. I have played each game at least five times but in each playtrough I find new things that never cease to amaze me.
@darthjayder9914
@darthjayder9914 2 года назад
thank you for making this. you are saving time for me. now I won't have to replay the game an extra several times.
@facundoap3803
@facundoap3803 Год назад
Hey Dan! Good video, mate!👍🏻
@GreenAdam313
@GreenAdam313 2 года назад
I laughed when Oriana and Henry fell
@badbonezthlegnd2049
@badbonezthlegnd2049 2 года назад
Correction wrex doesn’t have to die on virmire for wreave to be leader instead. If you don’t recruit him wreave will still take over
@mranthonymills
@mranthonymills 2 года назад
Makes sense, since without Shepard recruiting him, Wrex would still be out being a mercenary.
@jefersonmartins6471
@jefersonmartins6471 2 года назад
But BigDan said that... 1:14
@badbonezthlegnd2049
@badbonezthlegnd2049 2 года назад
@@mranthonymills coulda swore I only heard him say if wrex dies in me1
@thomasike
@thomasike 2 года назад
Have you ever made a video about what happens if you take Dr Michel in ME3 instead of Chakwas ? Ive never had the heart to do it
@damo.r
@damo.r 2 года назад
Happily one of your videos shows how to save all my squad mates therefore my faves always survive thanks for showing what replacements some get that I didn't know about
@suburbannegro411
@suburbannegro411 2 года назад
Conclusion: *SAVE YOUR GODDAMN SQUADMATES*
@gamerx759
@gamerx759 2 года назад
Wiks was funny af. XD
@commandernici
@commandernici 2 года назад
another thing worth mentioning could be the mentions of Tali and Garrus when being on Menae/Rannoch (which is also very sad because it reminds you they are dead ooooofff)
@LucasDarkGiygas
@LucasDarkGiygas Год назад
Thanks for the video
@ClassySithLady
@ClassySithLady 2 года назад
I prefer morinth over Samara but they literally just ganked morinth into a renamed banshee and a few emails, would have chose to kill Samara but morinth adds nothing to me3, I'm disappointed
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle the Leviathan mission in ME3 also gets you access to that skill. And I really like Morinth so it really was a shame how little impact she made. It makes sense for her character to just run off and end up being converted I guess. But at least give us a trail of interesting destruction to investigate, or something like that? An unloyal Jack similarly just gets converted (by Cerberus rather than the Reapers... if that's even a distinction at that point!) but she has to be unloyal for that to be the case. Morinth just gets that treatment regardless. I guess because she cannot be unloyal? Still the most disappointing squadmate result.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle I do like an ME2 playthrough having already unlocked it, with AI Hacking on one side of the controller and Dominate on the other. Shepard showing the Reapers how to indoctrinate with style! :D
@varric
@varric 9 месяцев назад
@@Torthrodhel Jack get kidnapped by Cerberus if you fail to save Grissom Academy in time.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 9 месяцев назад
@@varric yep, turning her into nothing more than a named version of one of the generic enemies. Shame to see, but certainly one of the more likely outcomes, as she's such a glass cannon and so fragile during the end of ME2.
@ChevaliersEmeraude
@ChevaliersEmeraude 2 года назад
10:00 That's exactly why I laugh when people complain that "your choices didn't matter in the end" thingy. Can you imagine how much extra content they'd have to create for ALL the unique choices you made over all three games? We'd have like a hundred different endings, if not more! The games provided a good story, beginning middle and end, and the choices you made did have an impact, as this video pointed out. But ultimately the story had to end with Shepard defeating the enemy they fought over the course of the entire trilogy, there wasn't really any other ending than that!
@KenshiImmortalWolf
@KenshiImmortalWolf 2 года назад
I'm surprised you didn't actually play the line "i punched him in the face" from padok
@lvl6humancleric216
@lvl6humancleric216 2 года назад
Thank you for the great video! Currently doing a zapp brannigan run and making all kinds of bad decisions. 🤣
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 2 года назад
Why anyone would do this is beyond me
@ThunderGun2
@ThunderGun2 2 года назад
Same
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 2 года назад
Here's an incredibly dark idea I had (at least in part based on Big Dan's joke from 'not releasing Grunt' video of Grunt becoming a mega Krogan Husk), have any squadmates who died during 2 or 3 becoming an enemy in the final missions of ME3 (like the Jack Phantom and Morinth Banshee). Eg: have Cerberus recover Legion and have it still become the 'Legion Assassin' unit the same as selling it to Cerberus and Morinth still become a Banshee if she slips away in a failed version of Samara's Loyalty Mission. Or (the darkest idea I came up with) have GARRUS become Marauder Shields if he died during the Collector Base or have him merged into a Brute with Grunt if the Krogan also died. Also maybe have Jacob take Kai Leng's role if he survives rather than having him in the Ex-Cerberus Scientists mission (either have him remain committed to Cerberus or for a hideout he's located in get raided on The Illusive Man's orders and have him forcibly indoctrinated in an attempt to throw Shepard off balance during Citadel, Thessia and Cerberus HQ).
@JollyWanker
@JollyWanker 2 года назад
Calm down, Satan
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 2 года назад
@@JollyWanker had a feeling that I'd get a reaction like that even without the Garrus part...
@fenrisvermundr2516
@fenrisvermundr2516 2 года назад
An idea I had for Miranda. If you don't complete her loyalty mission and she survives. She remains loyal to Cerberus. She plays a more antagonistic role. When you first meet her on the Citadel it's how she normally would be. Tells you she left Cerberus and is there tracking down Oriana, and in all meetings plays along with you. The first major hint is in Priority: Citadel where you find a Pad mentioning an "Agent L." The big reveal is in Priority: Horizon. Where she betrays you and you have to fight her.
@demolishermusic
@demolishermusic 2 года назад
Hey Dan, I have question about Anderson and ME3 ending, can you save him at the end without final paragon/renegade conversation option or no?
@clay1430
@clay1430 2 года назад
I'm not Dan, but no Anderson can't be saved, or more accurately he can't survive. You can use the renegade interrupt to stop Illusive Man from killing him, and you can use speech options to convince IM to commit suicide. No matter what though Anderson does die, which is unfortunate because imo Anderson really deserved a happy ending.
@demolishermusic
@demolishermusic 2 года назад
@@clay1430 I finished ME3 few months ago but wasn't sure what happened with Anderson, so just checking, ty for answer 🤝
@davep8221
@davep8221 Год назад
Probably already known, but Claudia Black also plays Liara's other mom. She's the bartender in Conrad's bar in ME2 and the bartender in ME3. Some nice dialog if you've hooked up with Liara.
@Siansonea
@Siansonea 2 года назад
This video exemplifies why I can’t rate Mass Effect 3 as a perfect game. Well, this and the very ending. Just having a few minor differences in dialogue is a far cry from the ‘your actions have consequences’ promise of the series. Those consequences seem pretty superficial in the final analysis. Another major issue I have is the way Ashley and Kaidan became a single character after Virmire. It’s highly absurd that both Ashley and Kaidan would have pretty much the same exact dialogue on Horizon in ME2, and that they would both be assigned there in the first place. And that only becomes more absurd in ME3 when they both have the exact same dialogue in a number of places in the story, and both have the exact same story trajectory. Ashley and Kaidan had very different career trajectories prior to ME1, and very different personalities. The only thing they have in common is that they are Alliance soldiers. It would have been much more realistic to have only Ashley or Kaidan show up on Horizon and berate Shepard about Cerberus. If they are dead in that playthrough, then the Alliance sent someone else, and no confrontation occurs. You could then encounter the Virmire Survivor at a different point in the story, with different dialogue, and a different outcome. And that could all continue in Mass Effect 3, with only Ashley or Kaidan being a Spectre candidate, and the other doing something else entirely. Just having them both living the same exact life with the same exact dialogue after one of them dies feels really ‘game-y’ in a game that otherwise feels very realistic and immersive. I think it makes a lot more sense to have Surviving Kaidan's story play out as we see it in the games, with him being assigned to Horizon and becoming a Spectre, since he was an officer and a biotic, and pretty much the poster boy for the Alliance. I think if Ashley's story had taken a very different turn, being sort of drummed out of the Alliance because of her family history, we could have had a much better story with her that would really make people want to replay the game. Maybe Ashley became involved with Aria T'Loak on Omega, and her story ends with her helping to save the galaxy in a very different way that feels much more personalized. I just think it could have been so much better.
@HelmuthGerka
@HelmuthGerka 2 года назад
All these games are about having a good illusion of choice, its impossible to make it any more complicated with realistic budgets and timescales.
@Siansonea
@Siansonea 2 года назад
@@HelmuthGerka it's not impossible, it just requires creativity.
@CRYOKnox
@CRYOKnox 2 года назад
"Did you lost your teammates do to bad decision? Call the R*-Team." *Replacement Think about a whole parallel universe story where Shepard never became Specter or died in the past and we get a weird replacement with this as his/her team... Seems priceless to me. Also because they aren't specters or even military they just hopp around in a Black Cargo freighter with a red stripe on the side... And the Krogan wears Gold chains arround his neck and hates Planetary Landings. Okay enough weird A-Team references no one gets...😅
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 2 года назад
I like imagining a totally alternate Mass Effect where Shepard never even joined the military, and everyone fills similar roles it's just really obscure characters. Led of course by the first human spectre, Conrad Verner. Who's haunted by having had to choose between Khalisah and Fist on Virmire. And who didn't like being forced to take over Captain Jenkins's ship, but knew it had to be done and begrudgingly went along with the advice of Earth councillor Gavin Hossle. Remember saving the Thorian only to have it indoctrinated by Reapers in the next game? Shame you couldn't do the same with the Krogan Queen at the end of Noveria. How about Fisto finally joining the squad in ME3, though? About time huh! I really liked the DLC characters too, Barla Von's such a cutesy little thief and Patriarch is totally the ship's grumpy grandpa. At least the ME2 ones anyway - Vigil was a bit of an asshole in ME3. Why'd he have to be a crucible scientist, couldn't we have got a spirit of vengeance or something? Gotta go for that Elcor romance though. I mean what are your other choices? The vorcha's just gonna die anyway, and Wilson just cheats on you (plus why's Conrad so flirty with him in the first place? Just because he wasn't that Jacob guy who Oriana shot when you woke up in the base after being rebuilt by Exo-Geni?) Anyway, Admiral Traynor's available on vidcon.
@MrFederation
@MrFederation 2 года назад
Since we are coming up to Halloween, are there any plans to explore the scariest moments of the Mass Effect Trilogy?
@lelouche25
@lelouche25 Год назад
I do love Padok Wicks face during his dialouge.
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