@@cursedemperor9600 bro I remember when I first saw this video that's what I thought of!! Just coming back to these short film channels. So much better than normal RU-vid drivel
That's why plot is a separate thing from a story. This is the story as it happened, but the original plot portrays the story in a way that is engaging and interesting while allowing you to learn along with the main character. This is still really cool to see obviously, but the fact that plotting events of the same story in a different way can completely change the viewer's experience is why writing is an art!
@@WiiDSCube especially when it's just presented, without some character explaining the context of each bit as you go. when they respect me as the reader/viewer I respect them more as the writer lol
This is what I think every stall does. Stall #1 (when closed) brings you back in time (5-10 seconds). Stall #2 (only used by survivor Pete) brings you back 2 mins. Stall #3 is the same as stall #1. Stall #4 makes a copy of someone after a set amount of time. All four stalls' internal time is stopped when open.
(REPOST) I actually had a theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video. The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. Basically the one that wrote all of those warnings, was the first person to convince himself and managed to do so, while the person whom he managed to calm down, attempted to do same but failed 7:26 (we're unaware of what exactly was told which made the difference) So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop and closes it completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
i think that the fourth stall just sends you back in time, and the 1st stall mostly set people through time in large intervals, like sending "murderer pete" from the end of the of the short film to the start.
I actually had a small theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video. The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
Imagine you're in a room. In this room, there's a door. Opening it leads you to the exact same room you're originally in. Upon opening the door, you see yourself opening the door. Another way of thinking of this is the portal gun from portal. You shoot the portal gun at one wall and another on the opposite end of the same wall.
I agree! In an over simplified, strawman way, he basically created a physical manifestation of his "bad person", and had him killed (metaphorically his work-life/seeing his own evil) to be able to escape the loop. I also love the theory that he humbled himself, became a janitor and left that roll there intentionally. @@eZeero
So the note was always right, just misinterpreted. "kill your future" meant letting go of the meeting of his life and the future of his Career because it was making him that bad person. only when he tosses the suit, the files, and his watch, with no intent to go to the meeting was he able to break the cycle
i love how it's implied that since he killed a ton of versions of himself, the heartless version of him would have messed up the meeting. also, the janitor's name isn't janus, it's janice, but it's a cool theory.
I’m certain it’s an alias created by future him due to the “you’re a bad person” line then noticing the lights, which is the same exact thing he did when he was held at gun point. 100% the alias is a reference to Janus though
This was good. Im curious why you didnt leave the 330 shot at the end. It was a good perspective to see jacketless guy go from arguing if he or past him should go in the stall to future him coming out demanding he get in the stall but im curious about him figuring it out at the 330 shooting and then seeing the rampage
I thought that the scene at the end needed to go at the end because of the poster. The 330 shot had the poster being written on with a marker and in the final shot of the edit, the poster with marker streaks was there and ripped up by the Protagonist. None the less thanks for the comment bud!
I saw someone do it, Memento actually makes so much sense in chronological order that it causes it to be a boring story if told forwards that's an epic story told backwards.
They had that as a feature on the DVD release. Basically you just do the black-and-white scenes from start to finish, then all the colour scenes finish to start.
I actually had a theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video. The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. Basically the one that wrote all of those warnings, was the first person to convince himself and managed to do so, while the person whom he managed to calm down, attempted to do same but failed 7:26 (we're unaware of what exactly was told which made the difference) So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop and closes it completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
theres a bunch of other references, too. he tells craig to 'Stall', the janitor tells him he won't like it if he got one good look at himself that he wouldn't like it, and a bunch of others, too
If it was me I would've climbed up into the ceiling and got out, I know it wouldn't fit the story but I mean, there's almost always a way out, especially that kind of bathroom.
@@fuzzybunny4muny Maybe it's something like the Sysyphus pushing the rock up the hill, he can't just do something else because he is fated to forever push the rock up the hill, and has no choice in the matter. Same with this, because it's time travel, there is no doing something else that will end it without fixing the thing that caused the time travel in the first place.
@@multipleajs7833 oh! thanks for the clarification! I was gonna say it's a very interesting format for a film release. Which means my first experience of it was from this perspective of a 4 screen story telling
I liked the subtle references at the start. 1:20 'His door closed, my door opened' - On the toilet paper was writing saying 'One door closes, another opens' 1:25 'This is my future' - Kind of funny as he's stuck in this kind of loop 1:35 'Stall, Craig!' - He uses bathroom stalls to travel through time 1:40 (Snaps fingers at janitor) - An impatient guy gets all the time in the world (using time travel) 1:54 'If anybody screws this pitch up, I will kill them' - He screws everything up by not getting in the stall at 7:13 by not getting into the stall and in the end, dies 2:01 'I will literally shoot them in the head' - Gets shot in the head in the end 2:17 'You are a bad person' - This one is obvious, but at 12:47, he calls himself a bad person, like the janitor did 2:22 'Uh huh, and you're a janitor' - Not really a reference, but there's a theory saying he becomes the janitor and then gets trapped in this paradox, meeting his past self 2:26 'One day, you might just get a good look at yourself. One day, you might not like what you see' - He does get a good look at past and future selves, and in fact, he does not like what he sees towards the end
could you make a new and improved version? you could add the timestamps of the footage from the youtube video so that we can more easily track its timeline
in a scene where two heroes are discussing what is happening (one with a jacket and one without) and there are two “versions” of the hero, the first one becomes bad and starts killing everyone. The second is the one who eventually got out and the paradox.
The true path was just believing what survivor Pete said and going to stall #2. Although it was questionable why he didn't wear his suit in the beginning when he shows up, saying no to his words and refusing to believe him, will lock your path into dying.
i really hope that it is an actual detail and not just a mistake, but when the fight scene happens the first time angry pete attacks confused pete, he does a flurry of punches on the right side, then when we see it the second time, it is on the left (atleast in the video it looks that way) which would be the actual first sign of the paradox breaking rather than him saying no being the first
8:41 Theoretically in this section this is what we call an alternate universe version of you where they committed an action you decided to not commit At a different time in a moment, like you enter a stall within the other time.Line version of you you don't
I got it. I solved the timeline loop. "Original" Guy is a "Future" Guy that got killed in the first stall. He got killed by himself with the help of the "paradox" Guy who was 2 minutes forward in the future.
from what I understand, the gun is born and only exists inside the paradox, closed loop. If I could timetravel using a book explaining how to timetravel given to me by a me from the future, who will go on to give it to me in the past- and that goes on for infinity. The only thing wrong with the gun theory is that the bullets come from no where. He picks the gun up from the corpse of the 1st stall.
Can somebody explain the ending? Like the one where the mc is killing the other variants or what, and the other one that looked at the first stall? How does it end there?
The only part I’m missing is where no jacket came from. I assume we just don’t see where he gives it a try, we only see the initial split. What I have: Initial jacket enters the stall to use it as normal. While in the stall he sees the self the just exited the stall and then he hears aggressive jacket attack that him. The commotion makes him exit the stall. When he does he hears himself lock the door which makes him go investigate. Upon finding himself in the stall he stumbles backwards and opens the stall where aggressive jacket is, and aggressive jacket attacks. Aggressive jacket manages to throw stumbling jacket into the stall. Aggressive jacket is the self that stumbled into the third stall, got attacked and then threw what he thought was aggressive jacket back into the stall. He then hears stall jacket begin to exit which once again makes him go investigate, upon doing so he finds killer jacket, formerly dupe 1. He throws up, finds paper, meets no jacket, and then leaves. Upon exiting he tries the door which doesn’t work, Instead the duping begins.(i don’t understand how but that’s not important) Dupe 1 is the one who tries the door then stands in front of the plan while everything carries on behind him. Dupes 2-5 are all learning the definition of insanity. After dupe 5 dupe 1 becomes killer jacket and starts closing doors until he enters the first stall and reunites with no jacket moments after they parted. Meanwhile no jacket discovers the bodies of dupes 2-5 and begs to be let out. He is interrupted twice, first by gunpoint no jacket, then by killer jacket. When no jacket asks for privacy and closes the door he becomes gunpoint no jacket, who passes by no jacket leaving him with the “last regards”hint. After exiting the stall one last time no jacket closes the door on killer jacket, which neatly enough is the only time a door closes without time travel as you hear the body hit the floor and it’s still there when the door opens. When gunpoint no jacket closes the door while at gunpoint, killer jacket shoots the door, upon opening it he walks in and finds himself dead, when he turns around no jacket closes the door and he gets shot by the bullet he previously fired into the door. That’s why you hear the body hit the floor but no gunshot, because the gunshot already happened. No jacket then proceeds to reset the paper and leave. Only to return many years later and set up the cycle. Janitor jacket is no jacket as noted by the “you’re a bad person” line and noticing the lights which they are the only characters to do.
the only thing I think you might have wrong (I could be wrong) is that killer jacket is not dupe 1 but actually the "main/original" guy. when he meets no jacket and then leaves him he's the one that tries the door first before dupe 1 comes out it just looks funny in real time because he loops back onto himself as he's trying the door so its all happening at the same time. (to clarify at 14:18 the clip on the top left starts when the clip on the top right ends when following the perspective of initial jacket from the beginning) As far as where no jacket comes from there isn't a full explanation for his perspective other than being a in the future compared to the original guy by 2 minutes and he is the "one" to make it out
