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Maxed Out! Can the New, 500 Horsepower 2023 Ford F-450 Super Duty Diesel ACTUALLY Tow 40,000 Pounds? 

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@TFLtruck
@TFLtruck Год назад
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@PeeterPuncher
@PeeterPuncher Год назад
how ironic you have this advertisement for this......there will be some that need it towing 20T with an 8,000 aluminum truck.
@Ornelas11B
@Ornelas11B Год назад
Where is this in Michigan? Looks like a gorgeous area.
@lylehart3744
@lylehart3744 Год назад
Will never use such obvious ambulance chasers.
@bowtierj
@bowtierj Год назад
This is ford michigan proving grounds. Located near Romeo Michigan.
@bowtierj
@bowtierj Год назад
You guys were there the other day for the superduty event. I work midnights so i didn't have much involvement.
@jza80king
@jza80king Год назад
Can't wait to finance this truck for 15 years and daily drive it to work and back 😂 *Edit* for all the people I triggered, I was just being sarcastic with my comment
@yourgooglemeister6745
@yourgooglemeister6745 Год назад
Some wannabe country singer will do it
@christophermcmichael880
@christophermcmichael880 Год назад
You would have to use it as a daily driver. After financing it you wouldn't be able to afford another vehicle to be used as a daily driver. 😂
@dantimber
@dantimber Год назад
A lot of these are sold to tow businesses with tax benefits.
@theglitch99
@theglitch99 Год назад
What's the cost for this truck, that will last maybe a year pulling loads like that!
@GhostlyGhille
@GhostlyGhille Год назад
15 years? for a $62,000 truck? It's a 950 a month note for 72 months if you put zero money down. If the price of this truck puts you off you don't need it. This is for guys running hotshot, or moving job site equipment. In that situation it's making you money
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 Год назад
A Class 8 semi grossing 80,000 lbs has a 20,000-pound truck and 60,000-pound trailer. So the trailer is 3 times the weight of the truck. Towing a 40,000-pound trailer with an 8000-pound F450 has a 5:1 trailer to truck weight ratio. I'd get a bigger truck to handle that much weight to avoid being pushed all over the road by the trailer. Out in the real world there is more to towing than just weight. There is also trailer size. The demonstrator trailer that Ford had was weighted with dense material, allowing the frontal area of the trailer to be smaller than the truck. Not everybody hauls steel. If you're towing something like an intermodal shipping container that has multiple times the frontal area of the truck the powertrain will be working hard all the time, even on flat ground. And in crosswinds the trailer will push the back of the truck around badly.
@danielwilliams4473
@danielwilliams4473 Год назад
This truck does seem light compared to what it's towing. In the real word, towing that much weight will take a long time to stop, even at low speeds or going down hill/mountains.
@lt_hammerfist5532
@lt_hammerfist5532 Год назад
I could see this being a good aggregates hauler, I don’t even think they make a 15 ton dump trailer but if you could get one you basically have an average tandem dump truck load out of a pickup truck. Save quite a bit on taxes and not to mention you’d have way better maneuverability.
@mp40submachinegun81
@mp40submachinegun81 Год назад
I regularly hit 50k with a 40 foot gooseneck full of large square bales. I wouldnt hit the highway but perfectly capable, and legal where im at.
@ytvladnoob24
@ytvladnoob24 Год назад
There's a reason you have to load precisely the right weight on the right axel.
@jetdriver
@jetdriver Год назад
The real world. Of the proving ground. With a single cab stripper 2wd F450. Of which they will sell 2. Interesting that on that short grade on what looks like a cool day the cooling fans had to come on. That doesn’t bode well for being fully loaded up a long grade on a hot day. Especially if you throw in some altitude.
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 Год назад
I would never tow this much with a pickup, but I have to say the standard cab dually is one of the best looking trucks made.
@Joe-Mamasixtyninefourtwenty
Agree 100% a crew cab and extended cab no doubt have more utility with the extra interior space. But i love that classic standard cab look.
@pinolyzerproductionsinc.1062
@pinolyzerproductionsinc.1062 7 месяцев назад
This truck would look even better with a flatbed
@destruct61
@destruct61 Год назад
That 6.7 is an absolute beast we have them in all of our tow trucks and even towing two big ol lifted trucks at the same time you can't even tell they're there just pure power quick off the line and definitely incredible stopping power Love them. I keep it to the rug all day everyday it don't care
@swathdiver489
@swathdiver489 Год назад
Good info about transmission temperatures. The guy said it was designed to run all day at 257 degrees which would freak most people out.
@ts9271
@ts9271 Год назад
Sounds like the "lifetime fluid" promise
@swathdiver489
@swathdiver489 Год назад
@@ts9271 Never believed that one. Well I know if mine hit 257 it would be changed soon after!
@WhoThisGuy515
@WhoThisGuy515 Год назад
that's because most people are thinking of old conventional trans fluid which will start to foam and break down at those temps but synthetic fluid used now days are good for way more than that. But if you tow heavy like that my Ford owners manual says to change at least every 30k miles or when needed.
@miket2172
@miket2172 Год назад
​@@WhoThisGuy515the fluid changed but transmission basically work the same just more gears I put the biggest trans cooler in my truck when I bought it new has 220k miles on it and original Trans truck is used for construction pulling heavy trailers Gm says 200-210 is normal operating temp my Trans has never got past 200 even towing heavy on a 98 degree day without a trailer my Temps are 150 or so if I never installed that cooler I can almost bet the Trans would of been cooked by now
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI Год назад
It's studied, designed and made to last for the length of the warranty and a day. Imagine baking the TCM, O-Rings, fibers and all else that's not made out of steel on a 257°F sauce for 1000's of miles while pulling a heavy load day-in, day-out. Yeah, NO, not good, I don't care who says otherwise, engineer or not.
@TheGhiaDriver
@TheGhiaDriver Год назад
Nice to see a classic single cab.
@willbenner3
@willbenner3 Год назад
It probably only hits 40k towing in that configuration.
@Mr.Worf63
@Mr.Worf63 Год назад
@@willbenner3You’re correct. It’s always the XL trim , 2WD and Regular Cab.
@jamesbeaman6337
@jamesbeaman6337 Год назад
@@Mr.Worf63and HO diesel engine.
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 Месяц назад
@@willbenner3 yes due to its light /lighter weight than a loaded 4 door witch is much heavier!
@Jophlo78
@Jophlo78 Год назад
They've underestimated this truck's capabilities because I was able to tow Puerto Rico closer to the United states just yesterday. I don't have any numbers to provide, but just accomplishing that alone is impressive.
@RealJohnWayne
@RealJohnWayne Год назад
😅
@RealJohnWayne
@RealJohnWayne Год назад
How about going down and seeing if you can pull Mexico further away from the US? 😏
@447Film
@447Film Год назад
​@@RealJohnWaynelol
@dontarguewithidiots7459
@dontarguewithidiots7459 Год назад
ha!
@carl8790
@carl8790 Год назад
At that weight, I'll just spend the extra $ and get a medium duty. Still an impressive display of towing capability by Ford.
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 Год назад
Chassis Cab?
@carl8790
@carl8790 Год назад
@@Nostradamus_Order33 yeah. I should've been more clear and said a class 5 or above.
@remingtonwells7286
@remingtonwells7286 9 месяцев назад
medium duty? Medium duty trucks can’t tow this much. Too tow this much you need a true dump truck. medium duty trucks IE an F650 or a Chevy 6500 version have high capacity in the bed not towing.
@carl8790
@carl8790 9 месяцев назад
@@remingtonwells7286 I know lol. An M2 106 international with a custom fit fith wheel should do the job. Expensive, but worth it if I'm towing that amount of weight on a regular.
@sewerlord
@sewerlord 5 месяцев назад
how is a 450 not a medium duty?
@tb1951
@tb1951 Год назад
I wonder how many of us would take half the power, half the capability for twice the reliability.
@miket2172
@miket2172 Год назад
And half the price
@jeffs2809
@jeffs2809 Год назад
almost there, 6.0 and 6.4 were around half of everything including reliability😀😀
@seanthe100
@seanthe100 Год назад
Not me I'll take 500 horses every single day
@doublebackagain4311
@doublebackagain4311 Год назад
Sounds like you are describing my old 7.3L
@jimmotormedic
@jimmotormedic Год назад
That drivetrain will never last a 100 k doing that work at those rpms without sinking some serious repair money into it. But this is the world we live in nowadays. On the other hand anyone needing to haul 40 k on a regular basis should not be looking at that size truck. I guess time will tell
@yotrkoff-road3541
@yotrkoff-road3541 Год назад
can we talk about those absolutely massive stock rims. They look amazing
@alexmills1329
@alexmills1329 Год назад
They are 19.5” commercial truck rims, that’s the only way 450’s come going back decades now. 350 dually’s have the standard 16-17” maybe 18” rims depending on year.
@cyrusumberger5285
@cyrusumberger5285 Год назад
Let me tell you how rough these trucks ride with those commercial 19.5 rims. Wish they still had wide beam front on f-350!!!🤦🏽‍♂️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😕
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb Год назад
I think those tires are 225-70/19.5. They sell for as much as $530.00 each.
@cyrusumberger5285
@cyrusumberger5285 Год назад
@@Bill-sp8kb and ride like shit! Ask me how I know…..🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️😆
@dustyc324
@dustyc324 Год назад
​@@Bill-sp8kbif you're worried about tire money, you wouldn't be driving one of these.
@huntmachine4505
@huntmachine4505 Год назад
Anyone else think 40K is too much for the consumer? I foresee some people getting in way over their head with this. Luckily very few will ever approach towing 40K. What will be sweet is that high output motor in an F250 or 350 towing a big 5th wheel travel trailer like it is nothing. Consumers will appreciate that.
@reneeandchrisforever
@reneeandchrisforever Год назад
Anything over 26,000lbs GVWR requires a CDL. But most of these companies and reviewers fail to mention that. They just want the wow factor of one upping each other.
@Gmac705
@Gmac705 Год назад
​LazyGiant that largely isn't true. Only about 10 states require you to have a specific license to drive over 26000 if you are a private citizen. Meaning some person could absolutely load up a 40k trailer and drive it down the road with zero experience.
@rw0037
@rw0037 Год назад
The FMCSA would like a word with you. Besides VERY specific exemptions for things like farmers, RVs, snow removal, emergency or military personnel, there is literally no state that is totally cool with a regular, non-exempt driver loading up a trailer with 20 tons and hauling it down the highway.
@erikpienkos
@erikpienkos Год назад
Pretty sure that here in Illinois you can legally tow an RV (like a fifth wheel) over 26k GCWR without a CDL. Not sure about other types of trailers.
@jeffs2809
@jeffs2809 Год назад
​@@reneeandchrisforever Aside from the personal use allowance, most states exempt RV use anyway.
@jmpersic
@jmpersic Год назад
Seriously impressive machines. But I agree with other commentators here, the ratio of trailer weight to truck is a tad scary even if it CAN do it.
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW Год назад
Shouldn’t be bad with the correct trailer and with trailer brakes
@ripperlipper1016
@ripperlipper1016 Год назад
Trucks designed to handle it
@veterantrucker1018
@veterantrucker1018 Год назад
It's the same ratio as a tractor trailer. A semi by itself is around 16k lbs. A dry van trailer is 20-24k lbs and then the load can max out at around 47-48k lbs. A 16k lbs truck pulls around 76k lbs everyday.
@richpryor9650
@richpryor9650 11 месяцев назад
@@veterantrucker1018 But that semi has air brakes.
@veterantrucker1018
@veterantrucker1018 11 месяцев назад
@@richpryor9650 air brakes can fail just like hydraulic brakes. The enemy of all brake types is heat.
@Parker53151
@Parker53151 Год назад
If you plan to regularly tow 20 tons it may be better to just buy something like a Freightliner M102.
@ebnhahn1993
@ebnhahn1993 Год назад
I will take the FORD Power Train in the F450 over the M102 any day...
@reneeandchrisforever
@reneeandchrisforever Год назад
@@ebnhahn1993I think his point is to move up to a dedicated commercial medium duty truck.
@Parker53151
@Parker53151 Год назад
@@reneeandchrisforever Exactly. I’ve read so many stories and watched so many videos of owners angry that their [insert brand name here] pickup had major issues at 50,000 miles or sooner after they’ve beat it like a mule.
@JamesPhieffer
@JamesPhieffer Год назад
Definitely. Not necessarily a Freight-shaker, but if you are maxing out your truck on a regular basis, you should be moving to a bigger truck, unless you want to wreck it.
@zelenizub2036
@zelenizub2036 Год назад
Get yourself nice Coronado glider with pre egr 12.7 series 60 and 13/18 speed transmission.
@camwhitman5425
@camwhitman5425 Год назад
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite channel on YT. It was your video review on the F-150 Powerboost that sold me on getting one. All of the information on Ford engineering in these videos really sparks my interests.
@TJ-qz6hr
@TJ-qz6hr Год назад
The way that break a way cable is hooked up, scares the hell out me.
@DavidBrown-jt7yi
@DavidBrown-jt7yi Год назад
Not sure why anyone would tow that much with a small truck. Nice to have that kind of power, but control of the load would be difficult over a long haul, especially in a NON-Controlled environment. Appreciate the video.
@fitdadjourney
@fitdadjourney Год назад
Hopefully everyone took notice. That regular cab, 2WD, base model is the one with this towing capacity, now the crew cab 4WD lariat you really want...:)
@TaigaTurf
@TaigaTurf Год назад
5:18.. sounded like a rocket. Amazing power, should haul all the groceries for the week
@christophermcmichael880
@christophermcmichael880 Год назад
If you can afford to carry that much groceries. With the amount of groceries I can afford. I could use a bicycle.😂😂
@destruct61
@destruct61 Год назад
Imagine driving one of these with no weight at all with your foot to the floor... (it's amazing)
@scottsymons6152
@scottsymons6152 Год назад
Love that F450 regular cab pickup. Only thing I would change is make it a 4X4.
@MOE-db8oc
@MOE-db8oc Год назад
The extra wait of the front axel would take away the ability of the truck to haul 40,000 lbs. That’s why they showed the model they did. Completely stripped down hauler. My bet is even getting a better interior would take away from that number.
@uselesslyopinionated8447
@uselesslyopinionated8447 Год назад
@@MOE-db8octhe 4wd truck would pull it fine just not legally
@MOE-db8oc
@MOE-db8oc Год назад
@@uselesslyopinionated8447 I didn’t say anything about it not pulling it.
@stchman
@stchman Год назад
Are you going to off-road it? A truck like that is something nobody is ever going to buy.
@scottsymons6152
@scottsymons6152 Год назад
@@stchman Actually I've been looking at the F450 regular cab pickup in XLT trim and 4X4 for about a year now. Only found one to drive and it was used. If everything works out right going to try and order a 2024. Turning radius is fantastic. And the ride was pretty good. For some reason it was riding on Bilstien 8100 shocks which probably helped.
@MrAPCProductions
@MrAPCProductions Год назад
Three things. First: in the United States any combination grossing more than 13 tons (26,000) requires a CDL. Getting caught without the appropriate license, plates, and permits is serious fines and in some states could be vehicle confiscation or worse. Second: Ford as a manufacturer has stated that any continuous temperature reading of the transmission fluid over 240* is causing significant wear to the transmission, anything over 250 is permanent fluid breakdown along with the seals and internal frictions. Third: If you are thinking of buying a truck to get anywhere close to this weight, at current market most medium duty will be cheaper to operate and easier to repair.
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 Год назад
Regarding the trans temp, good thing Andrey was only observing 214 although who know how high it could go away from the Ford test loop.
@jeffs2809
@jeffs2809 Год назад
The CDL requirement part is false. It all depends on how the vehicle is being used and if the operator it being paid in any way related to the use of the vehicle. Also, many (most?) states have exemptions for RV's. In my state, I could absolutely drive that combination for personal use without a CDL.
@pauldumitras3774
@pauldumitras3774 Год назад
You guys need to take that truck with 40k behind it and do the ike gauntlet test. Now that will truly show what that truck is capable of
@jordangiesbrecht05
@jordangiesbrecht05 Год назад
sheesh that would be scary
@scz718645
@scz718645 Год назад
I don’t think it would make it
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW Год назад
⁠@@scz718645it’s 100% making it Ford always done better than fiat ram and gm up the Ike been the quickest every single time since 2013 when they started doing the tests
@ictpilot
@ictpilot Год назад
Guy in the video said Ford's already done that.
@richpryor9650
@richpryor9650 11 месяцев назад
@@ictpilot Talk is cheap evidence is expensive, so show us the proof.
@billp5424
@billp5424 Год назад
The ambulance chaser ads in the middle of the video are annoying.
@Agamerrobertjr
@Agamerrobertjr Год назад
They got to make their doe!
@kevinperry581
@kevinperry581 Год назад
I hope you never watch tv, you probably won’t be able to take it.
@RealJohnWayne
@RealJohnWayne Год назад
Yes they are!! 🤔
@rachaad
@rachaad Год назад
You will live
@fzj8022
@fzj8022 Год назад
Fast forward, it's easy
@williameckhoff1334
@williameckhoff1334 8 месяцев назад
I have a 2021 f-450 licensed at 40k. I pull all over the US. Different weights but a couple stand out. 1 load 3 10ft tall 17k lbs total 38k lbs arched steel panels for huge holding tanks. denver Colorado to Western Utah hwy 70 used for the trip. 2nd over weight load 2 armored with 50 cal turrets. Load weight 22k lbs total 43k lbs. Southern Illinois to Northern Michigan. 3rd oversized load fuel tank for fuel stations. 19,500 lbs for a total weight of 40,500 lbs. North Dakota to glacier national forest Montana. This 2021 f-450 6.7L holds its own flatland or mountains!
@jefweb5043
@jefweb5043 Год назад
Wow! I still wonder if a person would be better going up to a non CDL medium-sized truck. I'd love to see how the conventional setups did....but, all in all, pretty incredible numbers on the 450.
@lt_hammerfist5532
@lt_hammerfist5532 Год назад
I could see a truck like this hauling aggregates, a 15 ton load is a class 8 tandem dump truck load, but you could match that out of this lil guy. Getting in and out of jobsites would be easier not to mention you could prolly fly by under the radar without a CDL.
@jayrichards3672
@jayrichards3672 Год назад
Anything over 10k power unit, or 26k combined you need a CDL. Period
@lt_hammerfist5532
@lt_hammerfist5532 Год назад
@@jayrichards3672 you could fly by under the radar without one, as long as you play it safe.
@TonyBenton0728
@TonyBenton0728 Год назад
@@jayrichards3672There are 18 states that require a Non-CDL-A license each are different and class of license are different A,B or Z .
@zb6618
@zb6618 Год назад
@@jayrichards3672anything over 26,001 lbs combination unless the trailer weighs less than 10,001 pounds and the power unit doesn’t exceed 26,001 lbs period***
@user-zd5lz7su9t
@user-zd5lz7su9t Год назад
Impressive but I feel that 40k is just too much weight for a small single axel truck.
@cyclesingsleep
@cyclesingsleep Год назад
Thanks, Andre! ...very impressive! ...was hoping you'd stop on the steep grade, accelerate and also stop going down the steep grade to see about braking performance! ...a fast/sudden stop on level ground would also be good to see. I have a '99 F-550 7.3 dump truck and part of weekly driving is having to stop harder & sooner than expected because of cars jumping ahead of me (into the large cushion that I like to have) and the braking/turning. Of course, this happens when I am empty at 11,800lbs AND when I am fully loaded with stone and equipment and trailer at 22-32,000lbs.
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 Год назад
I had hoped he'd stop on the grade, too. In fact, the Ford rep even offered that as a possibility if Andrey wanted.
@brianmoralee7628
@brianmoralee7628 Год назад
Nice max tow number. Especially if you're going to tow 20-25k lbs. Will pull with ease.
@nelsonsantos2631
@nelsonsantos2631 Год назад
If you remove the cab and passenger seat you can tow an additional 600 pounds
@landrelarose745
@landrelarose745 Год назад
That's definitely the truth.
@1leggeddog
@1leggeddog Год назад
A 2 seat short F-450 truck, wow. It was beaitiful
@0223Jeremy
@0223Jeremy Год назад
Honestly that’s an awesome looking truck
@commandertopgun
@commandertopgun Год назад
Excellent impressive video guys-well done--THE FAST LANE TRUCK.
@MarcMonson
@MarcMonson Год назад
glad to hear them clarify what to do for downhill
@pauldiesel4582
@pauldiesel4582 Год назад
That’s impressive! Crazy! I’m wondering where this will end by DOT rules?
@oscara.9265
@oscara.9265 Год назад
It's just showcasing it's capabilities. Nobody will be actually be towing that much weight on a truck like that. But in case you were wondering, it can do it.
@jamesbeaman6337
@jamesbeaman6337 Год назад
It will likely only end when the manufacturers run out of ways to work within the J2807 towing standard. Or SAE modifies the standard. 🤷
@pauldiesel4582
@pauldiesel4582 Год назад
@@oscara.9265 More likely they will exceed the limit if they think they can get away with it. That’s been the pattern ever since heavy duty pickups have been around!
@uselesslyopinionated8447
@uselesslyopinionated8447 Год назад
@@oscara.9265Im not nobody
@HankeyMountainGarage
@HankeyMountainGarage Год назад
@@oscara.9265 You know farmer brown in the year 2036 will be towing 50,000 pounds with one of these LOL
@scotttrippel9736
@scotttrippel9736 Год назад
Getting 40k moving is one thing getting it stopped is a whole different game, no one mentioned the braking, they mentioned exhaust brake but that is not the primary braking
@skrsys
@skrsys Год назад
Good thing you brought this up, it seems the Ford engineers totally overlooked the brakes. I'm surprised they were able to get it certified at that weight.
@dundonrl
@dundonrl Год назад
@@skrsys You do realize that the F-450/F-550 and F-600 share the same brakes? Ford engineers didn't overlook anything! The F-450 to F-600 also share the same wheels. The thing that separates the F-450 from the F-600 is the rear end and the number of springs.
@skrsys
@skrsys Год назад
@@dundonrl You failed to detect my sarcasm on the fact somehow the Ford engineers didn't consider the brakes and got the truck certified at that weight.
@The-fs5wn
@The-fs5wn Год назад
I failed to detect your sarcasm as well. It was worded in a way where it sounded nothing like sarcasm.
@jeffs2809
@jeffs2809 Год назад
they did indirectly by talking about the exhaust brake capability and I'm reasonably sure, part of the J2807(?) Davis Dam test is stopping without the aid of the trailer brakes.
@KyleJewell
@KyleJewell 10 месяцев назад
I ran 600,000km of daily towing a 50 foot deck trailer hauling upto 24,000LB loads. Load/Trailer combined being 35,000LBS. I did this with my 2012 F550 with its 6.7 and it handled it amazingly, and yes i was legal weights as i regularly ran the scales. Only major repairs that truck ever needed was 1 rear end at 500,000km, a water pump, an alternator, and a couple of turbos(the stock ones were very weak). Overall i think ford makes a very good work truck and that 6.7 is a great engine all around.
@Retadin
@Retadin Год назад
The powerstroke is nice and all, but what we really need to see is the 6.8 minizilla in action.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 Год назад
Nothing beats in towing the Cummins. I love the 7.3 but that low end torque of a Cummins is unmatched.
@BruceDragon-sf1tr
@BruceDragon-sf1tr Год назад
@@angelgjr1999 BULLCHIT. Dodge pushing that Cummins is nice but Ford has a 7.3 *gas engine that will dam near step on that Cummins, so comparing it to Ford diesel engine is not even a comparison. Ford makes better trucks then Dodge, I will go with a Chevy before I buy a cheap a&& Dodge
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 Год назад
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr I like Cummins, not Dodge. Cummins is a separate company that makes engines. Dodges are cheap Italian crap.
@BruceDragon-sf1tr
@BruceDragon-sf1tr Год назад
@@angelgjr1999 you right about cheap 🤣🤣, but what I'm saying is Cummins is behind Ford engine. It use to be the best pickup truck diesel but Ford has the best now.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 Год назад
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Which one? The 7.3 is gasoline
@myrongaines5542
@myrongaines5542 Год назад
U gonna need a class A license to haul that
@reneeandchrisforever
@reneeandchrisforever Год назад
They always conveniently leave that little tidbit out.
@Stevemax07
@Stevemax07 Год назад
You never went back and asked Mr. Truck for his thoughts! Fun Video!
@markperry762
@markperry762 Год назад
Mr. Kent and Andrey. My favorite FLT presenters. Best wishes boyz
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 Год назад
That is a hell of a lot of weight. It's enough that one might be better off looking at a medium duty F650-750 truck though. I can see sooner or later in these tow weight wars between the truck makers that someone makes a factory standard three axle 1 ton or 1 1/4 ton truck just so you have another axle worth of brakes and contact patch.
@foreshee10
@foreshee10 Год назад
Those trucks f650 has no power. 3 axle trailer carriers and stops most of the weight.
@sdvten
@sdvten Год назад
@@foreshee10 The F650 and F750 are rated differently and at different rpms. A 650 or 750 may not be faster with the same weight as the 450 but it will handle it better. Have a trailer brake overheat or failure and good luck stopping it with that 450.
@evanleo7633
@evanleo7633 Год назад
imagine a hybrid truck with regenerative braking, how much energy can it recoup with 40000lb load
@cheyennedogsoldiers
@cheyennedogsoldiers Год назад
Yeah but a hybrid with a decent sized battery/motors etc. will weigh significantly more thus affecting the GVWR;. Probably end up losing several thousand pounds of towing.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 Год назад
Itd have to be an ev sized battery to store all that and make more than a couple minutes use of regen’d juice
@gamebredduramax71
@gamebredduramax71 Год назад
Worthless the battery will be dead before the load is up to speed
@MichiganMitch23
@MichiganMitch23 Год назад
Regen braking is pointless barely harnesses anything
@fzj8022
@fzj8022 Год назад
​@@gamebredduramax71look into Edison motors, way more variables involved.
@bigmountain7561
@bigmountain7561 Год назад
Hi Andrey, can you please ask if you can convert your High Output to Waterless Coolant and would that void the warranty or damage the engine? Please and Thank You 🙏
@nickfruge5639
@nickfruge5639 10 месяцев назад
Regardless of everyone’s comments on price / reliability with loads that heavy / etc….. can we all just give credit where due - the fact that a pickup truck can even sniff this kind of weight is an incredible feat. That’s semi-truck weight
@jasonkolbe4987
@jasonkolbe4987 Год назад
What a beast of a truck. Nice job Ford
@therealjohnsmith4811
@therealjohnsmith4811 Год назад
See you on the Ike!
@wj2791
@wj2791 11 месяцев назад
After waiting for F450 Limited since last Oct, 28th, I made the decision to pick up 2023 Ram 3500 DRW HO 6.7 Cummins , 4.,1 Gear Night Edition. I have lot less drama.. It comes with Auto Rear leveling and TPMS. Tire is wide enough to drive as is. It rides more smooth and quiter.. I love Ford, but Ram impressed me as well. Full body PPF and Nano ceramic installed.. Nothing more needs to be done to the truck. I can drive it as is.
@dodge33445
@dodge33445 Год назад
I LOVE the aluminum Alcoa style wheels they went with!!! Totally gets brownie points from me for that!! None of that simulated CRAP duallys normally come with.. this is REAL Solid wheels.
@fernandobriseno8164
@fernandobriseno8164 Год назад
Definitely need to do Ike Gauntlet.
@jonathantaylor6926
@jonathantaylor6926 Год назад
8,000 pounds pulling 40,000 pounds would make me nervous.
@reneeandchrisforever
@reneeandchrisforever Год назад
Should make any logical person nervous. That weight ratio is downright scary.
@jeffdolby
@jeffdolby Год назад
closer to 9000
@ictpilot
@ictpilot Год назад
@@jeffdolby More like 10,000.
@boomer1049
@boomer1049 Год назад
If you load it properly you have a good bit on truck and not the full 40k on the trailer
@ictpilot
@ictpilot Год назад
@@boomer1049 You would still have most of it on the trailer.
@935frank
@935frank Год назад
WOW, OK I missed you guys again you came to the Michigan test track and no heads up for us
@deeeeeeps
@deeeeeeps Год назад
5:18 I thought my tornado sirens were going off. LOL
@dstaff4134
@dstaff4134 Год назад
Another prime example of, just because you can doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Nothing against the guys at TFL. Except for leaving out any real world breaking tests, the video seemed to offer a fair assessment of the new drive train.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 Год назад
"Real world" braking tests would have been virtually meaningless since the trailer's tires, brakes, and weight distribution would have affected the results way more than the truck itself. Whatever results they got with that combination wouldn't apply to anything else. The only way to make the braking test represent the truck's capabilities rather than the combination as a whole would be to disable the trailer's brakes and see how well the truck could stop the load by itself, which is also a valid test since trailer brakes can fail, therefore the truck should be able to stop the entire combination by itself within 80 feet at 20 MPH while maintaining stability and staying within its lane as per SAE J2807 towing capacity testing standards.
@dstaff4134
@dstaff4134 Год назад
@@averyalexander2303 Doesn't that statement actual re-enforce my point? The manufactures will never be able to outpace physics. Most truck owners experience adverse driving conditions on a regular basis. As someone who drives a 2013 F350 4dr, dually pulling a 20k lb 5th wheel, I can attest most testing standards for towing don't prevent most accidents. It is impossible. From equipment failure, bad drivers to road condition create too many variables.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 Год назад
@@dstaff4134 Yup, couldn't agree more!
@twilightmedia8575
@twilightmedia8575 Год назад
ford is always ahead💯
@mibars
@mibars Год назад
How are the brakes controlled in such setup? Does the truck control trailer ABS, or does the trailer has it's own brake computer?
@johnosbourn4312
@johnosbourn4312 Год назад
Man, a Max Tow rating of 20 Tons, is mind blowing!🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@thomassears4920
@thomassears4920 Год назад
Good luck getting 40k moving with a light 2wd truck on a steep hill in the rain
@reneeandchrisforever
@reneeandchrisforever Год назад
Or stopping on said hill in the rain.
@robiparry941
@robiparry941 Год назад
the truck has fifth wheel ball type hoop up. the weight is distributed to probably half on the truck so there would be no problem for traction or stopping.
@Randythesavage777
@Randythesavage777 Год назад
Trucker here, I wouldn't tow 40,000 with a pickup truck.thats why we have class 8 trucks to handle it.🤔
@wj2791
@wj2791 Год назад
It is not a fail test with single cabin. I wouldn't buy the single cabin pickup truck when spending 100k + for Ford F450 Limited.
@T_RexDino
@T_RexDino Год назад
Is that new gooseneck chain hookups I see? I'm curious why they changed them from the single puck to the bar between two
@jamesglavich1426
@jamesglavich1426 7 месяцев назад
If you had to can you park the truck on that 7% grade? Is the parking brake and park position in the transmission all that's holding or does the trailer have some kind of parking brake? 46 or 47,000 lbs GVW is a lot for 1 axle with four tires to hold on a hill.
@gillbaraud4738
@gillbaraud4738 Год назад
As a truck driver I'm impressed, but wouldn't trust it.
@johnrose7212
@johnrose7212 Год назад
I want to see a drag race with the high output diesel engine.
@dontarguewithidiots7459
@dontarguewithidiots7459 Год назад
they're really quick. I drove an f350 dually recently and they can move! pretty cool feeling in a vehicle that large
@theglitch99
@theglitch99 Год назад
My 04 ram w/24v cummins pulls that much weight w/no problems 100% stock!😮
@PYGolf
@PYGolf 9 месяцев назад
Very cool video
@mabutoo
@mabutoo Год назад
I’m sure chevy and ram can’t wait to buy so they can make their copies.
@johnathanleonardo912
@johnathanleonardo912 Год назад
Then ford builds a truck that tows 50,000
@jeffs2809
@jeffs2809 Год назад
Ram has been @ around 37,000 on their 3500 series pickup trucks for several years. For some reason they haven't really chased towing #'s on their 4500/5500 series trucks. GM claims 36,000 on the latest model year 3500 series pickups.
@skyline9524
@skyline9524 Год назад
Just because you can doesn’t mean you should 🤦🏻‍♂️
@beardlifeman
@beardlifeman Месяц назад
💯💯💯
@johnwinsemius4423
@johnwinsemius4423 Год назад
what is the diff gear ratio? what would the towing capacity be with a crew cab 4x4?
@ictpilot
@ictpilot Год назад
Probably a 4:30 rear gear.
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 Год назад
I know someone who towed a 110,000 lb work-over rig with a 3/4 ton dodge pickup
@herbwheeler4470
@herbwheeler4470 Год назад
Pushing the limits of hydraulic brakes
@landrelarose745
@landrelarose745 Год назад
That is an amazing truck. That compression ignition engine has more torque than any other that Ford used in any of their vehicles. There's no way on this planet that the competition will win against it. How could the knowing that the torque is at twelve hundred foot pounds? This torque is possible because of that CGI block. Ford said it was the first used in the North America market. Yes, that's absolutely incredible. What's CGI? Compacted Graphite Iron. How could those two metals exist together? Apparently, quite well. I hope the four of you are having an excellent day. It's great seeing my favorite auto company doing so well. B'bye
@dannonebr
@dannonebr Год назад
Didn't Ram start to offer way back in 2019 a puny 6 cylinder Cummins diesel that has a new revolutionary CGI block and now offers a mere 1075 foot pounds? It won't be king for long.
@Nic-te3vq
@Nic-te3vq Год назад
Graphite is not a metal it’s just carbon carbon chains. It’s honestly just creating high carbon steel
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 Год назад
Compacted Graphite Iron is not so revolutionary as it is evolutionary. It has been under development in the heavy duty diesel market for about 30 years and was used by Navistar in their Maxx Force engines long ago. Cummins introduced CGI in the Dodge 6.7L engine in 2019. In a noteworthy gasoline application, GM has used CGI in their R07 NASCAR race blocks since 2007. Cast Iron is a group of iron-carbon alloys that are defined by the form that the graphite takes in the microstructure. Over 2% carbon content, free graphite forms in the iron matrix, and depending on certain alloying elements and how the material is handled during casting, different forms of graphite are produced. Grey Iron has flake graphite and has standard ASTM specifications that have tensile strengths in the range of 30-40000 psi. Most heavy duty diesels use gray iron blocks at 35000 psi tensile strength. Ductile (also known as nodular) iron has graphite spheres and is produced in tensile strengths ranging from 60-100,000 psi. Compacted graphite iron has graphite formations that look like corkscrew worms and typically is produced in tensile strength of 65,000 psi.
@ThanksHero
@ThanksHero Год назад
Holy fan boy. You don’t need a CGI block to handle 1200 ft/lbs 😂
@landrelarose745
@landrelarose745 Год назад
It certainly doesn't hurt. Answer me this question. Why do European tractor trailer companies use it in their engines in addition to Ford over here in North America? For an asides, you didn't need to type carbon twice. Once would be a sufficient amount.
@Michael-nohandle
@Michael-nohandle Год назад
The F450 crew cab pulling conventional trailer at 30,000 lbs with Gen-Y hitch. I’m I missing something according to the Ford towing info if you use a step down adapter in the 3inch receiver it’s no longer rated for 30,000 lbs and the towing example in the video they would be breaking one of their own rating specs ????
@bobkatbry
@bobkatbry Год назад
They had to use an adaptor sleeve on the pintle hitch on the limited?
@Jeremiah_Johnson139
@Jeremiah_Johnson139 Год назад
At 40,000 lbs, are you required to have a CDL? If so, that's kind of funny.
@jghall00
@jghall00 Год назад
Yes.
@patch6999
@patch6999 Год назад
@@jghall00If you don’t use the truck for commercial use you don’t need a CDL. I see people with F-450 and 550 pulling campers all the time and they don’t need a CDL.
@jghall00
@jghall00 Год назад
@@patch6999 It's based on the weight being towed.
@savannahrei8674
@savannahrei8674 Год назад
Super impressive I presume you need a CDL to drive a rig like this on public roads
@patch6999
@patch6999 Год назад
It’s all how you use the truck. For pleasure you don’t need a CDL
@savannahrei8674
@savannahrei8674 Год назад
@@patch6999 that seems a bit vague. One man’s pain is another man’s pleasure. I was under the impression that cops just look at GVWR and if your trailer and truck combined exceed the magic number…here’s your ticket
@patch6999
@patch6999 Год назад
⁠​⁠@@savannahrei8674 have a CDL and the cops don’t look at the GVWR of the truck and trailer. If you use it to make money then you need a CDL. Pulling a oversized camper, boat, etc. A CDL in not required. If you see a semi pulling a camper and it says not for hire it does not need a CDL.
@jamesbeaman6337
@jamesbeaman6337 Год назад
@@patch6999it depends on the state
@christophermcmichael880
@christophermcmichael880 Год назад
@@patch6999 However. If it has airbrakes. You still need airbrakes endorsement on your license.
@tommays56
@tommays56 Год назад
The trailer gotta have a hell of a braking system
@mitnickmitnick1378
@mitnickmitnick1378 Месяц назад
Ok.. if you guys need to know if this F450 is a beast when it is time to tow, let me give you all my personnal and accurate review. I've bought a Lariat F450 crew cab in last november. It is a brand new 2024. I've bought this because I've also bought a 17500lbs, 43 ft long and 13.5 ft high fithwheel the week before. And I've planned to hit the road a lot ... 30k KM a years with the truck, half of that mileage with the RV hooked on it or all my other trailers. Since then, I made 2 times Montreal to Miami l, and of course we came back here both times. Both of those trip was in snow (from montreal to a bit passed Albany), and I have passed throught the Adirondacks, we can all agree that it isn't an easy road... especialy in snow. My RV hits now 20k lbs with full fresh water, luggages, all the bikes, thinks for the kids, all the options i've hadded to the fifthwheel. For those who wonder what the hell I was doing in snow with a full setup like this with fresh water on board.. lets say, we can do a lot to find hot weather! The truck just handled this like a freaking champ... both time. It isn't a 40k lbs trailer, but anyone who ever drove a big rig like this knows that it will push you real hard, it will dance a lot, and if it is really high, the wind will be an issue. When I was climbing down steeps roads, the kind of "Jacob" braking system was just amazing. I was saving a lot of braking pedals. I was loosing speed quite a lot without using brakes. When climbing roads, it was a charm too.. and to be 100% honest, I was staying in left lane, the speed was realy good. Last thing, last week Ive made a tougher trip, in QC province Canada. It was in Charlevoix. Sometimes your can hit 500 meters descending roads with 17degree, with all the warning pannels on the top of the slope. Again... a charm. So easy, no overheating, no brakes heating, you don't feel the weight we were pulling ..I've owned 9 pickups trucks, GMs, Fords, Dodges, I've never experience that can of power when pulling before.. neither when climbing down long slopes with 20k lbs pushing you straight down. So bottomline, 40k gooseneck trailer evenly packed with a the new F450? Hold my beer, anytime... (don't worry, I don't drink and drive loll)
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 Год назад
so why do we need these?
@reneeandchrisforever
@reneeandchrisforever Год назад
Bragging rights. Anyone serious about hauling that much weight will opt for a class 8 medium duty truck.
@KimL1000
@KimL1000 Год назад
Ford does it again. Another awesome truck that only 5% of the population can afford.
@jghall00
@jghall00 Год назад
It's a business vehicle that can do double duty with a 5th wheel or boat.
@stanludorf2311
@stanludorf2311 Год назад
Only 5% of the population would need 40k of towing
@wj2791
@wj2791 Год назад
F450 Limited, - only about 1% of population can swing it.
@jghall00
@jghall00 Год назад
@@wj2791 It comes in cheaper trims. Just because most people can't afford it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. If it's for a business use it's a tax deduction anyway. If it's for personal use then you make bank and probably have nice toys.
@jeffs2809
@jeffs2809 Год назад
@@wj2791 pretty sure the f450 with the 40K tow rating is going to be an XL trim. I don't think you can get any trim level above xlt in a regular cab.
@SuperIcarusman
@SuperIcarusman Год назад
Can or can it not regardless; For how far and how long are questions I'd want to know if I'm seriously buying one of these and what's the upkeep on it..
@timhoover4324
@timhoover4324 Год назад
I wish y’all would talk more about rear axle ratios…
@DenisKz
@DenisKz Год назад
I like how the video started in front of the letters BS.
@broncobros2022
@broncobros2022 Год назад
You forgot to go back and compare thoughts with Mr Truck
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 Год назад
Mr. Truck probably left to go get lunch.
@mojorisin7317
@mojorisin7317 4 месяца назад
Of course it can tow 40k lbs!! Legally, did it one time with a 2017 F-350 6.7 dually 4:10 rear end with a 38 ft.11k lb trailer with 26k lbs on the deck and the truck did that load up and down mountainous highways with relative ease on a 3 hour drive. Ford makes the most capable trucks in the business and they should considering the money they spend on their truck division and the amount of profit they make from it.
@ljmorris6496
@ljmorris6496 Год назад
If I have to tow at that weight I'll get a proper class 5/6 truck. It's not the power, it's the chassis...
@Weatherby406
@Weatherby406 Год назад
Just buy a day cab Peterbuilt probably cheaper
@MichiganMitch23
@MichiganMitch23 Год назад
200k vs 100k
@Ekulx
@Ekulx Год назад
And then introduce the maintenance. PB probably shines in that regard.
@sfcjones2590
@sfcjones2590 Год назад
The safety factor is DO NOT TOW 40K with any pickup truck.
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 Год назад
U still need cdl to drive around weights like that right?
@specialskillsX
@specialskillsX Год назад
I'm curious how well it stops. Are the Brakes all Drum? And I wonder why they made the Engine brake to where you just had the option to Full on or auto instead giving you a low or high?
@joshpodolsky7740
@joshpodolsky7740 Год назад
Pickups haven't used drums for a long time, all hydraulic vacuum boosted disc's.
@f-j-Services
@f-j-Services 4 месяца назад
@@joshpodolsky7740 damn so the newer 6.7 are also vac boosted still? I really liked the feel of direct hyd brakes like 1st gen superduty up to 6.4.
@toddbob55
@toddbob55 Год назад
Ford builds the best Trucks hands down !!!! Better than the garbage GM is producing !!!
@almangrant7358
@almangrant7358 Год назад
The first question that comes to mind about the HO engine is longevity, actually, the manufacturers have thrown reliability out the window in their engine design. The bigger the number the shorter the life.
@sethcooley7872
@sethcooley7872 Год назад
Just out of curiosity, what is the payload of that particular configuration? And do you know what the pin weight was? I imagine it’d be some impressive numbers with a gross trailer weight of 40 k
@jeffwill4923
@jeffwill4923 Год назад
Unless Ford made some chassis upgrades, payload is under 6300.
@jeffdolby
@jeffdolby Год назад
@@jeffwill4923 15% so tongue weight 6000 lbs
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
8,000 lbs. The all-new 2023 Ford F-Series Super Duty offers best in class performance right where customers need it with 1,200 lb. -ft. of torque*** available, 40,000 pounds maximum towing*, and 8,000 pounds of maximum payload**. Source: Ford Press
@KentuckySquids
@KentuckySquids 10 месяцев назад
9,500lbs more than I’ve ever towed, and in a truck that’s 15 years newer. We sure have come a long way.
@mikesahle1193
@mikesahle1193 Год назад
Thank you 🙏 🛻🛻👍👍👍🎥the road was waiting still waiting for you 👏👏👏👋
@carfreak1532
@carfreak1532 Год назад
Let’s see one EV truck do that, oh wait…they can’t!
@carlosmedrano3549
@carlosmedrano3549 Год назад
@@bielmelichartes2167the hummer ev is way heavier than this too
@carfreak1532
@carfreak1532 Год назад
@@bielmelichartes2167 with all due respect, the GMC Hummer EV is no match for anything that a normal diesel truck can do in towing in the real world. Modeling this performance through simulation has proven this point as soon as they are in real situations. Yes the Hummer can accelerate faster, and the range gets cut dramatically on every run. I agree that range is a big issue, and it gets worse with loads. Also, there is no heavy duty EV truck yet. This government we have is forcing auto manufacturers to comply with a idealistic at best EV-only policy rather than the truth. So expect every truck manufacturer to have one soon as they go along with the program. I’m for EV as an option for people, but do not pretend this is the solution for energy in the future.
@memecat57
@memecat57 Год назад
​@@bielmelichartes2167 if it had a big enough battery to have good range for this job you'd be paying for a tank of diesel in hydro unless you had a 2-300amp panel for overnight charging. I have complete faith in the automotive industry to get there but it's definitely not going to be cheap at the charger and the sticker
@vettle1
@vettle1 Год назад
​@@bielmelichartes2167soooo, you're saying it CAN'T do this? 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@jadoriffic
@jadoriffic Год назад
​@bielmelichartes2167 Exactly, it can't. It would go about 3 miles, and it would be out of power.
@rays7437
@rays7437 Год назад
I don't think I'd want sleezy ambulance chaser lawyers sponsoring me... Thumbs down for this one
@guillermotaboada3235
@guillermotaboada3235 Год назад
Is 40k the weight of the trailer and Load. Or the weight of the whole setup includding the truck?
@jaimerodriguez669
@jaimerodriguez669 11 месяцев назад
I remember back in1985 working at Alamo Steel company all our F250 and F350 were gasoline engine 300 in line six cylinder pulling gooseneck trailer load with steel rebars up to 20.000 to 25.000 lbs and those 300 in line six cylinder with a 4 speed standard transmission would pulll great all that weight they use more gas back then gasoline was cheaper
@alphonsothomas3651
@alphonsothomas3651 Год назад
That's getting real close to semi territory and damn I'm very impressed good damn job Ford. 👏👏👏👏👏
@GRAFHC
@GRAFHC 3 месяца назад
Impressive!
@brettknoss486
@brettknoss486 9 месяцев назад
What kind of gooseneck hitch does it have? All the 3" balls I've found are rated to 30,000 lbs.
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