Maxing out Alchemy in Kingdom Come Deliverance

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This is not a quite the bug breaking play for alchemy, but this technique does allow you to level up alchemy a bit faster than traditional ways.
TL:DR version. Make only marigold potions. Add in water, two marigold, one nettle then bottle it. No boiling. Save yourself 1/3 of the time leveling up.
And to be honest I never even got close to level 10 in alchemy before this, because I tend to lose my bananas before I can get routine 1.
Also for most purposes, I would say level 10 is good enough for most people. Pick up Witcher perk, maybe the poison blade perk, other than that, I am at lost for what else would be useful.
Useful stats for leveling up alchemy.
[All these times are if you are doing all the motions semi-perfectly and just grinding stats like a pro]
Going from 0 to 10 in alchemy you will need to make 47 potions.
Using no boiling technique takes 34 minutes verse with boiling 47 minutes.
Going from 0 to 20 will require that you make around 167 potions.
Using no boiling technique will take roughly 2 hours. Using with boiling would take almost 3 hours of grinding.
In general, you nearly save 1/3 of your time using no boiling for alchemy.
Now, stat gains can happen quite a bit more if you train with alchemist at the shop at level 0, level 5, level 10, and level 15. Pay the money and be a happy person to train. Save time, then make big bucks selling back potions.
If you have more questions about this, feel free to hit me up in the comments.
This run was really to test out how my new computer can handle recordings, so yay for test runs!

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@khadelsnerdo 2 года назад

Oh boy, Henry knows Alchemy now. You are slowly adding on to his already God-like powers lol

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

I like seeing that you're connecting the dots to what might be coming next ;)

@khadelsnerdo 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose Nice!

@mer_meh 2 года назад

Fun fact about alchemy, the poisons you make can be used in bandit camps by placing them into food/wine at night. By the next morning, everyone will be dead. This means that it technically is more dangerous than any other skill provided you are stealthy enough.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Yup, it is sort of overlooked by people in the game because everyone wants poison to work, NOW. But KCD has that sort of semi-realistic approach that things take time. The downside to poison and sneaking into places is that, if you're sneaky enough to go into places why not just stealth kill people? Also, not everyone eats in this game so poison is not 100% effective :(

@BeardedBearMonk 2 года назад

Thanks for the Marigold Decoction tip. It makes the alchemy leveling so much less painful. And also, very good job with the content! I think you are THE ultimate channel to follow for all Kingdome Come Deliverance topics.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Many thanks ;) Someday I will be good at melee combat, that way I can cover all the "topics" :P

@LittleBear85 2 года назад

Dude I love how you narrate your videos. Also just got back into kcd so these are great videos.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Welcome back to KCD :) I feel the game has a lot to offer after beating it once, then just screwing around after that ;)

@owenstephens2819 2 года назад

When you autobrew you can do it twice within the animation time and it goes by a lot faster that way

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Yup, and if you get lucky you might be able to get 3!! I was going to put it into the video, but it sort of did not fit with the flow :(

@carpenecopinum1665 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose There is also a weird trick I found when you do the double-autobrew and press E while Henry is in the animation of looking away from the book, he goes back to it immediately and you can immediately start the next double-autobrew... it takes some practice to get right (if you have a slightly wrong timing, Henry will just flip the hourglass, which is still faster than waiting for the whole animation), but then you can auto-brew hundreds of potions in pretty much no time.

@the_Leszcz 2 года назад

in the beginning when you were asking yourself why do you need so many poppies - it's because Hans Capon's bathmaid said she really-really likes poppies (I just remembered that phrase from a quest where you chill in the bath with Hans)

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Yup, which the first time I played this game and got that quest I went outside and picked a ton of poppies then came back. Then I realized the game wants me to pick their flowers at the top of the castle... Oh la-de-day bath lady. You just can't have any old poppies, they got to be the poppies that get the western sun only with the slight aroma of the latrines nearby.

@FloppyCDdrive 2 года назад

Have found you recently, you videos are the killer! Really nicely made, a lot of fecking effort, and they are funny. I guess that's a rare one for the algorithm to recommend a small channel like your's :)

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Thanks glad that the video was worth you time :) It also does not help that KCD is sort of an "older" game by now, and sort of niche crowd. Not that I do not mind, I am having a good time messing around with it. :D

@kanki1174 2 года назад

Henry: *casually carries around 890 lbs of flowers* (Assuming the unit is in pounds.)

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

You got me there :P Would 400 kg work better ;) Or do they do their weight in stones? I honestly do not know.

@spicydeath82 2 года назад

wow, wish i had known this while doing my assassin playthrough. the ability to get to max level for routine to mass produce bane, nigh hawk potions, etc. would have made that a lot easier.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Honestly, I never liked doing alchemy because I never found it worth it because I could buy all the potions much faster than making them. But, if you could make them, and constantly chug them down and apply poison non-stop well then Henry is just a drunk god of murder and speech. :P Really if you're allowed to chug potions non-stop you're almost unbeatable.

@Gimboid79 2 года назад

The effort you go to amuse yourself and us is truly inspiring, I doff my cap to you good Sir.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

I was sort of aiming to fill the entire shop from feet to head with potions. However, after the 2000th potion I dropped in the shop, all of them sort of just started to mesh into each other. It seems like they do not stack very well. The little brown bags when you drop them (like the herbs come in when you drop the item), do sort of stack and have physics collision. I dropped another 2000 in that back room, but I had problems that if you were not actively watching the items, the game will try to delete them. Which is why I had the door open. I was going to open the door and a tidal wave of poppies come out, but no no the game is not going to play like that. :( But I still had fun!

@Gimboid79 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose True dedication! And btw Warhorse liked you're last video after I shared on twitter.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

@@Gimboid79 Ah thanks for the sharing! I am too introverted to do stuff like that :P Also, I fear that Warhorse might be worried about what stunts I am trying to do in this game again. Someday I will find a way around invisible walls! *shakes fists*

@Gimboid79 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose I wouldn't worry they're aware the game isn't completely bug free and know people will look for and find exploits. I've never known a dev so engaged with their fans, in fact they are still doing streaming events... I won a signed Theresa figurine last Friday, others won signed posters! (Next stream Friday I think). We all love your videos so don't be afraid to say hello on Twitter. 👍

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

@@Gimboid79 Ah, I should try jumping in sometime. I have been just been really busy trying to do real life stuff working then "socializing" then coming back to do videos. But thanks for the tips I probably should jump in there. And overall I think the bugs that are in the game are not terrible, but make the game much better. (Sounds strange) but it is Easter eggs almost. They do not break a normal play through for a first time player, which is good and in my the target for the game. Otherwise the bugs are enjoyable little treats to share with others ;) I mean Skyrim or Oblivion the amount of bugs in that are crazy, but everyone loves it because they do not break the game. Alright enough me rambling! Thanks for the advice again :P

@Buff_Weeb 2 года назад

Earned a new sub for all the great content👍🏽

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed :) Hope you get to enjoy the others stuff coming out too :P

@Jukrates 2 года назад

Great content man keep it up Also JC be praised

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Haha, many thanks. Also your avatar gives me the giggles and the creeps at the same time. No idea why...

@pjavilla 2 года назад

Ayyy you're really cranking them out lol. Excellent video as always and hilarious. Nice!

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Many thanks :D It is much easier to do once a week when I do not get deadly sick O: Also this one was sort of fun to do here and there, never got to level 20 alchemy so firsts for everything.

@pradimark 2 года назад

1:34 thanks for the shout-out man! made my day!

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Ah, well thanks for the tip on Reddit. Not many people pick up on good tips like that ;)

@-_-arson9304 2 года назад

Haha only reason I play kingdom come keep it up dude yore growing fast

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Haha thanks :) The game is a bit more fun when you can abuse the snot out of it ;)

@nomercy8989 2 года назад

I'm really impressed the game didn't crash at the end

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

With a new graphics card and beefy CPU I thought I could push the a game a bit further. I was going to fill up the entire backroom with potions, but if you walk away or close the door, the game freaks out and wipes the entire room clean. Also, I think I committed a crime when I was trying to do this (thankfully I saved before) and five guards bursting through the door trying to get through potion bottles was sort of hilarious and terrible. I think I was down to about 5-10 FPS and the guards could not attack because they were lagging so much :P

@asbestos1502 2 года назад

Ah, another way to completely cheese everything in the game

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Not quite the cheese I was hoping for, but after a long time experimenting, this seems to be the better way to go. ;) There is another bug you can sort of exploit to get alchemy or speech higher, but it is so darn fiddly that even I have a hard time reproducing it, but I know it is there!

@cbi433 2 года назад

That was pretty hilarious. You surely deserve more than 885 views lol

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Glad you found this and enjoyed it ;) Someday other people will see it too :P

@julianweiser9985 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose This channel is gonna take off at some point... The quality is right!

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

@@julianweiser9985 Thanks :) Hopefully the quality keeps getting better. Still a lot to learn!

@xXBlackStar93Xx 2 года назад

Just wanted to let you know that I love your content you have a great sense of humor! Especially regarding the squeaky duck sound whenever you knock someone out always makes me laugh! xD Are there other rpgs you wanna play and record in the future like witcher oder skyrim/enderal with the 6389th Version coming out in 3 days? :D Would love to see them with your comments/sound effects/editing!

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Thanks I am glad you like the sense of humor :P Also last night I was writing a sort of long response and the internet went out. (no joking). Sooo, I will make it shorter which will be better! Yes to all the RPGs in the future. The main issue I have currently is trying to build up my video editing/audio editing skills before venturing into something else. (I try to dabble whenever I can). KCD, I know the game decently well and I do not have to think too much in coming up with another idea and the mechanics are well known to an extent. This allows more time trying new video editing techniques, sounds, timing, ect...the other things that do not revolve around playing the game itself. I mean heck I screwed up the rendering of this video. It was suppose to be released in 2k visual, but still shown in the ugly 1080! Rookie mistakes I am making currently :P Well either way, yes to RPGs soon with some other things :)

@joelk5503 2 года назад

I learned how to gain levels in hound master by killing a cow and feeding the beef to my dog. It was the easiest and I maxed it after feeding mutt the whole cow basically. However he does run off occasionally because he gets over stuffed.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

lol, I never actually messed with Mutt at all. I have had the DLC for the longest time, but I felt like the dog was a bit too overpowered. I should change that mentality and give it a try. Feeding mutt endless stacks of beef and telling him he is a good boy seems rather worth it ;)

@alexnumale1048 2 года назад

All of these kingdom come videos are criminally underrated. Liked and subscribed

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Ah many thanks :D Hopefully you do not lose too many brain cells watching some of these videos ;)

@quantummuffin1895 Год назад

I think the one use for Alchemy I had was Padfoot potions, because Henry needs to engage in thievery beyond his mortal capabilities.

@helicalgoose Год назад

Ah, the padfoot potion is a good one too! Probably a better value for the time for alchemy too so not a bad idea, you only need so much marigold potions :P

@ignaciootondo8732 2 года назад

nice video!!

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! :D

@bagaspratama123 2 года назад

So apparently leveling up alchemy to level 20 can make Henry flying 😂

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

I am really curious about this to be honest. I have seen people post videos of Henry "flying" when using the alchemy station. I have no idea what causes that other than people have a mod installed and doing alchemy triggers the flying. Would be great fun to repeat it though :P

2 года назад

I used to make low quality tutorials about amazon products, from shooting the video, script, editing, was time consuming, so i know the effort You put into your channel, You deserve a Lot more subs views and money. Well maybe is just me inloved with KCD

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Ah thanks, this makes me feel like I am actually doing something right :P Yah, doing this type of projects really gives me a better appreciation for other videos I see. The more effortless it seems that a video plays, the more work that probably went into it ;)

@edgychico9311 2 года назад

Henry's making drugs in the alchemy shop.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Breaking Bad, Circa 1403 :P

@RyhoLV 2 года назад

i grinded lvl 20 alchemy on my 2 playtroughs, that was pain

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

It stinks to be honest! After level 13, there is basically no reason to level up any further. It is one of those skills where I am like screw this. The good part though, with this trick it will only take about a half hour to grind to level 10 to get the routine perk. After that, no more potion making for me!

@hardradaa7212 2 года назад

I effectively had to do the same as my game crashed after I had gotten like 15 lvls

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

@@hardradaa7212 Noooo! The game crash is a real possibility at all times. I did not show it, but I was getting drunk on Schnapps because I was saving every couple levels I gained in fear of the game crashing... I think I had to redo level 2-8 again because of a crash... :/

@Rosegoldshawwty 2 года назад

Based

@itzybitzyspyder 5 месяцев назад

Hippie Henry...

@broadbandtogod Год назад

One run gathering Comfrey and Valerian, took from dawn til dusk, one in-game day outside Rattay, brew 2 hours in game 150 000 ⚜️ groschen ⚜️

@chang8133 2 года назад

Can you do leveling up reading?

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Not an easy way so far. The way I know is unreliable at best. I get gains, but the effort is not worth the reward. The best way so far is to go into the Monastery and steal all the books and just open and dump them. Treasure maps give reading skill too, which all you need to do is flip them open and boom. I think that the the best reading perk cartographer, needs level 13 or 14? But this can be achieved within a couple hours of riding to a couple towns and flipping books open. Maybe I had to read through a skill book? Hard to say. I remember it did not take as long as I thought it was going to be.

@coryryder9070 9 месяцев назад

saviour shannps

@helicalgoose 9 месяцев назад

They're delicious but not that effective in maxing out the alchemy stat. I want to say the Belladona is harder to find. There are a couple big fields of them, but they're more limited. But still, once you max out alchemy or get the routine established you will never need to buy again or either you make a ton of groschen.

@CopR8r Год назад

I was prepared to level up alchemy then I watch your video... I'm just gonna do without that shit lol

@helicalgoose Год назад

lol, why not release 1000 potion bottles into the Rattay shop. The shopkeeper will love you for it. But good luck with leveling up alchemy, it can be a drag at time, unless you really love that mini-game. (Which looks cool).

@CopR8r Год назад

Lmao, that's true let's make the shopkeeper happy I actually did level up until lvl 15 or something, process is allright Henry is already making lots of medicine and being indecently rich like big pharma

@vavra222 7 месяцев назад

I avoided alchemy in this game ever since launch, because im a fucking smoothbrain and i thought i had to use the clock to precisely measure out time to boil and such. I also got frustrated because i would pump the bellows way too much and ruin my brewing. Now after a year, i came back to the game and realised how simple it all is, you dont need to hurriedly throw everything in, it doesnt matter, what matters is the order and the boiling can just be easily measured.... 1 pump of bellows = 1 turn. So i just pump, when i see the flames disappear i instantly pump air again and before adding another ingredient, i just wait until the flames AND the light dies down completely. I should have known that the devs wouldnt make a super-convoluted and punishing system i thought it was lol, people were casually mentioning alchemy left and right and my dumb ass was avoiding it all.

@helicalgoose 7 месяцев назад

I completely agree with you on the alchemy looking intimating. The hard part about all this, is getting the books to read and figuring out the timing. But once you figure out how to make money and that like you mention, the bellows work as a perfect timer, then everything is just flawless. I will say, that I love the animations and how detailed everything is, but after making over 1000 potions, I really want a quicker potion motions for this.

@vavra222 7 месяцев назад

@@helicalgoose Money? Never had an issue with that, i had issues with selling off stolen stuff quickly most of the time. Thanks to Bethesda, im a certified kleptomaniac and i stole everything that wasnt nailed down from the start. But i am glad my bird brain finally caught on, mostly because of story/convenience reasons. Also, i have a 3070 and a Ryzen 5600, i still cant max out the game without heavy dips in the city lmao. But since its a Czech game, i have to give my countrymen a pass.

@Mr_Rice 2 года назад

Any suggestion for lvling up the main lvl?

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

That is interesting. I never thought about it. Also, truth be told I do not think I ever hit the Main Level 20 cap. Off the top of my head, I think the main level cap is dictated by how much skills you gained overall. Thus my gut feeling to gain fast main level is to use multiple weapons gains skills fast, level up drinking, herbalism just anything and boom it should see some fast gains. I will have to research this more. If other people know, I would like to hear that too.

@trickyfoxx6941 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose you know you may be right! I always level a lot of different skills and on the play through I'm on at current moment I'm at lvl 19 and it just so slow to get the last little bit but I have a bunch of skills at 20 so that may be why it slowed cause I'm not ranking up as much anymore and it barley moves. Looks like I'm off to pick flowers and make potions to get the last bit I need to knock it to 20. Btw I hate picking flowers lol seems so tedious and dull I prefer picking cuman heads lol axe mace and sword all at 20.

@publicanimal Год назад

@@helicalgoose Main level progress only has to do with your progress in the main skills (the skills on the same page as main level: Strength, Agility, Vitality, Speech). You have to max all of those skills to 20 to reach main level 20. Progress in any of the other skills doesn't do anything for your main level progress.

@BigBoiTurboslav 2 года назад

omg I love you

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

@ishakismail5315 2 года назад

2:23 whats the Name of that song/video i knew it but its soo old help pls And the Videos of this series are killen me hahaha

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Yes, not certain if its an old one, but it is called Rataouille's Kitchen by Carmen Maria and Edu Espinal. It is a good song, glad I ran into it :D

@RiverRockXIII 2 года назад

Goddamn townsman on the stairs. :|

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

I am fairly certain that guy squealed on me about 15 times in the past when I was trying to rob the place. So I am with you on this one, screw that guy :P

@anonopossum Год назад

The alchemy minigame is really fun but it's tiresome to repeat the same recipes

@helicalgoose Год назад

The alchemy game is top notch! As mini-games go, they really nailed it on the head. My main complaint is that, it is too darn slow. It might be a way to balance potion making to not make a ton of money, but the repetitive motion all the time sucks because it takes forever. Honest, I have not made a single potion since making the cure for the village. Henry has near maxed out alchemy and has the auto-potions but meh, I can't be bothered.

@edgarmoule9825 2 месяца назад

Omg the waffle in this vid get to the point

@helicalgoose 2 месяца назад

Go to about 2 minutes and it starts the good stuff what you're after. Basically boil marigold healing potions, skip one step and you can get to alchemy max or till you get to autobrew perk and enjoy! It takes a little bit, but is saves about 1/3 of the time from doing a normal marigold potion.

@matteobernardelli8414 2 года назад

you got a discord?

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

I have discord channels that I use, but not my own. Not quite yet :P

@alynn6_ Год назад

th you mean handful of water 😭

@barejare8841 2 года назад

my game glitches sometimes and ppl have over 1000 items

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Yup the classic is the 1000 arrows you can find on bandits, also sometimes guards. I have not seen 1000 items of other things. This does comes to mind that maybe I should test out something to see if there is a duplicate bug with some npcs hmmm...

@hitthemill8595 2 года назад

Your videos are actually pretty good, so from what I can guess; the reason you're not gaining that many subscribers and views, is because your thumbnails are honestly lacking and you're making videos way above the 10 min marc, which lowers your average view duration. But hey that is just my guess and opinion. But if I could tell you something that you should definitely try, that is how to make better thumbnails, experiment with them and see what works and then do something that is unique to your channel so people who watched your videos but did not subscribe will be more likely to watch it.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

Yah man, I completely agree on the thumbnails thing. I have been trying to think how to do "better" thumbnails for the videos. Right now they come out as "passable", but I know I need to do something. I have been experimenting a bit with the thumbnails, but I might need to do some research on that. But thanks for the advice, I will look more into doing something about it. If you have any more tips I am always willing to listen. :)

@hitthemill8595 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose Then I'll tell you another one. I think you should make your content and thumbnails in such a manner that, not only people who played the game would click the video. I'm a sure you saw at least one comment on other peoples videos that goes something like this "I don't even play this game, but I still watch these videos". That is the reaction you want to have because you reach a bigger audience. So as someone that has the same reaction, I watched your videos that have exploits and the such. So you could try to make videos that bring the game to it's limits and explore in different ways. But to be fair, I intend to play the game in the future and enjoy to finesse games and just breeze through them, so I can't speak for the entire demographic. But, you still should make your thumbnails in such a way, because now; If I were to see your thumbnails without knowledge about the game I would just skip the video, because I have no idea what's going on in the thumbnail and what is it about. But still that is just my opinion and you should not get easily swayed by other people so easily, so just give it some thought and do it only if you're sure about it.

@yashuab.2979 2 года назад

Oh no, water of life sucks! It's really bad, Lazarus potion it basically mead and chamomile potions is moonshine with that perk! You don't want to be falling all over the place as you're fighting a tournament.

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

I 50% agree with you. The extreme drunkness is a big oof, but I always keep on hand "Hair of the Dog" potions for that. If you pop a Lazarus potion, pop a hair of the dog after that. The other key thing to stretch out the "Hair of the dog" potions is to apply the potion to a stack of "Regular water" bags. Every potion when applied to a stack of water, will apply to five of them. Thus you get 5 potions for the price of one. This is why I 50% agree with you since my Henry has a bad addiction to hair of the dog potions now, even if Water of Life is constantly making him drunk :P

@yashuab.2979 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose I never thought of that. This sounds neat, I’m gonna check it out next time I play!!! Hair of the dog potion is a good idea

@yashuab.2979 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose I forgot to ask, do you make water or do you just buy it from a tavern?

@helicalgoose 2 года назад

@@yashuab.2979 You can buy it at any tavern or general goods store I believe. Most places only sell 3 at a time which is a pain so you have to visit a couple places to get a stack of five. The good part is that water is cheap, so in Rattay there are three Tavern/Inn locations close to each other. :D This also works with any potion. I like applying potions to all my favorites like Lazarus potion, bucks, nighthawk, and bowman.

@yashuab.2979 2 года назад

@@helicalgoose Alright, it’s good to know taverns aren’t the only place, this knowledge sounds really useful! I imagine it gets really watered down the more you put it into water though lol