Just want to say thanks for this video, I have a Mazda 6 that gave me the no oil pressure warning, turned out to be a snapped oil pump chain. I had given up on the car over a year because I didn't know how to fix it and it wasn't worth paying for it to be fixed. I did everything you did in this video and started the car back up again today, over the moon I've got my car back 👍
I have a snapped oil pump chain, top-of-the-range Sportnav 175 bhp mazda 6 2016 skyactiv D. Engine turns over but wont start ( I'm a bit worried that your example did start). Local garage can't fix, Bristol Street Motors can't fix and Mazda want £2000+ just for the chain replacement, but also quoted £8500 in case of any other damage found. The car's worth ~ £7000 if running (100K miles). I have to fix it myself as I can't afford to gamble £2000+. You've actually done what I thought of doing as a solution but didn't know whether it would work... you've proved it could so thanks for that...I'm so glad I subscribe to your channel! I bought a 2012 basic Hyundai i10 as a replacement car while I sort this mazda out. I actually prefer the Hyundai as reliability absolutely trumps leather seats, great performance, bose sound and all bells and whistles. I hate this Mazda and if I can repair it I'll dispose of it asap. I wouldn't sell to a private individual as my conscience wouldn't allow that, but to a large company that would guarantee it for the next owner. I've had so much trouble with this car, I'd never buy another f'ing Mazda.Ever.
Hopefully you will be able to get it sorted 🤞🤞 It isn’t that bad of a job to do & could be done quite easily on a jack stand if needed. The very best of luck with it 💪💪🙏
Hi. i have got the same issue. chain snapped while driving. couple of garages only recommending a engine swap. please give us an update on your DIY . thank you
@@morushdi8076 Hi, I haven't had time to fix it yet. I hope to do it over Christmas. It took sometime to get hold of a genuine Mazda chain. Had to buy with sprockets and guide (which I need as plastic skate also broken) cost £250 new off ebay Mazda dealer. It doesn't seem as thick as the original but it's the same as Peter uses so looks genuine. To be honest, the chain looks just the same as the copies you can get off ebay for £70! I'll update when I've fitted and let you know the result.
@@morushdi8076 this is very much a permanent fix & a perfect solution once it hasn’t broken any timing chain guides or the tensioner. Far faster & in my opinion better than swooping out the engine for another that might not be far away from failing too😬👍👍
Oh my goodness Peter..this is dejavu‼️ Had 151 maybe a little more kms with a pump chain broke. Your customer was, I would consider VERY lucky..the engine still turned..the unit I had completely seized..no movement whatsoever. I had to replace all bearings and slight damage to crank but it was only surface in that material from the bearings were seized onto the crank, if that makes sense. Using fine wet/dry and elbow grease it polished up perfectly and all measurements checked out within spec for STD bearings to go back in. I don’t remember having different colours of bearings as I thought the little tabs defined which went where but I stand corrected. I ended up doing timing chain and all sprockets in a replacement kit. The one thing I noted was that the old chains would not fit on the new sprockets and I believe this was a fix introduced in later models because of this very issue. Perhaps the sprocket design caused slight and gradual wear to the chains. A great video Peter and loved you splitting of the chain idea. I did a complete engine strip down and rebuild…piston rings too..they were filthy with carbon buildup underneath.
Oooh Damien that sounds like an intensive repair. Very well done on doing that 💪💪 I got my parts from Mazda & the chain / sprockets were the exact same size/diameter. Which saved quite a bit of time & effort, thankfully 😅 😅🙏🙏
Some people would argue that the guide’s or the 2nd pulley wasn’t replaced but how often do we replace guide’s or pulleys with little or no wear. And on this occasion Kevin I felt they weren’t needed so hey ho let’s go 💪💪thanks Kev 🙏🙏
They very good engines if you properly look after them. That throttle input ignoring feature when there's no oil presure light is genius, I didn't know that 👍.
Peter, I would love if you could do a second hand Mazda 6 buyers guide. Especially 2.2d skyactiv engine what to look for/check for when viewing a used 6. Thanks 😊 excellent video again as per usual.
Mine is doing the same. The oil lighto only comes on when the engine comes to running temperature, not when it's cold. Do you think my oil pump chain is broken too?
@@stepheno2462 bloody expensive fix. Thanks for the quick reply and info. I'm gonna try and get it fixed and sell it asap! The oil pick-up got blocked about 3yrs ago and killed the turbo but I didn't know the engine was also damaged. Bought a new turbo and then the engine and new turbo died! All up AU$14k to replace motor and 2 turbo's...now this.... I'm not getting another Mazda again!😐
@@DonzLockz think it’s just the Mazda diesels. Same happens to Audis and VW, diesels are not designed for low mileage and short runs. Getting a hybrid next
We need to gain as much respect as possible in this trade & over charging isn’t going to gain respect. We don’t need to do anything for free just a fair hourly rate & everyone is happy. Cheers John 😉😉
@@kennedysgarage3281 Good ethics! I must admit on reflection I'm guilty of jacking up the job time out of frustration with the fight a particular job has given me.
@@garybrown5500thanks Gary, but once you are familiar with a job don’t undercut your skill or speed either. Loose on the 1st one but gain from there on due to speed & efficiency 🙂👍👍
I have one of these in my workshop waiting on the same repair (customer still deciding if they accept quote for repairs) First time I have worked on an engine with fractured con rods. Interesting splitting the chain to fit, may give it a try.
Hey Gary, I have to say that they are straight forward to work on and non of that plastic crap. They are made to come apart & go back together. The very best of luck with the job 🤞🤞👍👍
Thank you very much James, I feel that most things can be figured out it you just think about how it works & as you said approach the repair with common sense 🙏🙏👍👍
great video peter at least the customer nows where he stands that he has a good engine in the car it would be a bit dodge buying a second hand engine The breakers will sell people anything they dont care about the customer i find them prettey pricey aswell,, great video i say you have one happy customer saving him two or three grand
I love a shortcut Peter but only if I feel it doesn’t effect the quality of the repair. Time is money & if I can save time, it then saves the customer money. Which cannot be a bad thing 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Morning mate I’ve got a Mazda cx5 2013 plate 2.2 sky active with a snapped oil chain 😢 My first question is, are the engines the same as the one in the video? And my second question is, was there any come back from the car in the video? I’ve read a lot about the engines blowing up after a couple of weeks after just fitting a new chain? And that’s from the Mazda dealers Final question 😂 are the torque settings in this video the same for a 2013 cx5 2.2 sky active engine? Great video and great information! Experienced mechanic and you can tell! Using the manuals to do it your own way! I subscribed after watching this one video!! Thanks so much for your time really appreciate it.
Hey Paul, thank you for subscribing 🙏🙏 You have the same engine, this car came from around 200 mls away and the owner said that the car is still running sweet after 4 or 5 months. But it does depend on if the Crankshaft was damaged when the engine ran without oil being pumped. Get a set of bearings anyway, just to have if needed. I have done a video recently on replacing a crankshaft due to the same failure, watch the turbo 😬😬. It caught me 😱
What country are you in? That is some serious confidence to make the repair not only outside of the factory procedure, but by creating your own through chain disassembly!!
You are wildman by name & I am wildman by nature 😂😂😂😂 Only joking, if it works well it works. Text books don’t live in the real world 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ I’m not saying ignore them but follow you gut / experience where you can. Once it works 😬😬😬 Happy Christmas mate & I’m from Ireland 🇮🇪 🎄🎄
I have Mazda 3 2.2 150hp version with 255000km do i need to replace chains. Is there some indication that chain are in bad condition. I'm changed oil every 10tkm, cleaned manifold twice and replace washers under injectors.
Personally I only worry about the timing chain when I have some indication of it being wrong, ie. Very noisy or oil light on. But it could be worth looking at with 255,000k on it 👍
16:50 I've just discovered a snapped chain after going in assuming I was going to be doing a strainer replacement... What's that little thinner chain for because I'm sure the car I've just been under only has a sprocket which I thought was a bit odd at the time...
@@kennedysgarage3281 on closer inspection the thin sprocket looks like it's for engine speed sensor. Looked like there was a chain on yours though in the vid.. Weird
Top job Peter 👍 why there snapping is a mystery. Thanks for sharing this, working one handed and having to explain and show various bits isn’t easy but you do a cracking job 👍 is this the same Mazda Diesel engine that’s chokes itself up with carbon ?
Hi John, I’ve just seen your comment now 😬😬 Thank you very much 🙏 & yes that is the same engine, they are stacking up here. I’m getting very familiar with every issue that can arise with them now. And I must say that once they are fixed correctly they work away just fine & a good car to work on. No flimsy plastic bits, but every else seems to hate them 🤷🏼♂️😂😂😂
I actually don’t know why they fail but it is a really common occurrence. My thoughts are that it is simply down to the small size of the oil pump chain & rotating so fast 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
thanks for the video - I have just had the oil pump chain snap in my 2016 Mazda 6. I got about a mile down the road before my car cut out on me. Now I'm considering trying to replace the chain myself as a garage is too costly but not sure if it's worthwhile or not? What are the chances that there is further damage to the engine? Personally I'm not sure. Should I just sell the car for spares/repairs? Thanks
Once the oil pump chain breaks you have no oil pressure whatsoever. So it can damage big end bearings and score the crankshaft very quickly, not to mention the turbo 😬😬😬 I would advise looking at the big end bearings before making a decision 🤔🤔 Are you in Ireland??
@@kennedysgarage3281 Sorry for getting back to you so late. I'm not. I'm based In Brighton, South of England. I still have the car and have done nothing with it since messaging you. Ideally I would like to follow your advice because genuinely I think it's repairable but I don't have anywhere to do it and I can't imagine doing such a job on the road or driveway outside of my house. Is it possible or do I need access to a ramp do you think to put the car in the air? The car has been sitting since. I also forgot to mention that when the car came to a stop, a 250 amp fuse blew. I don't know if this is relevant to the chain snapping but they seemed to occur at the same time.
Get the front wheels up on 2 ramp. And remove the sump and balance shaft / oil pump module. Examine to see if any damage is done to the chain guides. If not buy a chain splitter and a chain crimper or riveter. Fit the new chain as I did & reassemble. Once the chain is replaced all you can do is start it and see how it goes. Let me know what you think 🤞🤞🤞
@nathanielwhessell418 there is a guy on youtube that does the same thing on mazda and is like 1 or 2 hours away from you "mrniceguy" is his youtube channel. He can help for sure
Hello Peter, may i have just your feeling on my case : my 2012 CX-5 2.2d 175HP, 100 000km (around 62 000 miles) have stopped suddenly: engine is seized, the no oil pressure warning had light up exactly when the engine stopped. As we possibly going on the court we didn't open the engine yet in your opinion, is that can be just the oil pump chain ? Many thanks for your advise Regards Totoribus
Hi Totoribus, in my experience the most common cause of oil pressure with no warning is oil pump timing chain failure. Engines generally don’t fail immediately though. It usually needs human error to try continued driving that causes engines to seize. I wonder could you have a different problem like intake manifold blocked causing the engine to stop & the the oil light once stopped 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@@kennedysgarage3281 Hello and thank you very much, i'll keep you informed, can you please explain how the intake manifold can seize the engine ? (the engine can't even turn with a wrench)
@@totoribusdm8581 ok, apologies. I overlooked the seized solid part & won’t turn over 😬😬 I was it just a crank no start due to a blocked manifold. I thought the engine could have stopped running and the oil light illuminated due to the oil pump not turning. But unfortunately it looks like you crank is seized 😔😔
Hello @@kennedysgarage3281 confirmed : broken oil pump chain + seized engine (crankshaft is seized) . The point is the low pressure warning came immediately when the engine seized, not before, do you know why ? as Mazda don't want take in charge the repair i will going to the court.
@@totoribusdm8581 I now it might seem that way but what did happen was the oil pump timing chain broke then the oil pressure dropped. This illuminated the oil light and within seconds the engine seized 😬😬😬unfortunately. The best of luck with it mate 🤞🤞
Hi,do you think the oil pump chain breaks dew to high oil pressure?Can you do an oil pressure check on these engines to check if it's in spec please?It can be done with a scan tool.
I have done lots of these and never found anything other than just the chain to fail 🤷🏼♂️ I believe it is just wear due to the oil pump timing chain being so small a rotating so many times, cross reference to the main/ large timing chain 🤔🤔
hello dear I follow you from italy you are very good, what year is this mazda? because I just had the same problem but I was lucky because I have 206,000 km but my mechanic tells me that on mine there is not that black filter that acts as a sieve, mine is the end of 2016 confirm that it was removed?
Hi Great video !!! What kind of program you have for totq settings? Is it dpf file or somethi g different? Im lookong for workshop manual for mazda 6 3rd generatiin.
I use Autodata & then Haynes pro when needed. Autodata has everything you will need for the Mazda 6 & can be purchased on a daily basis if needed 😉👍👍👍 Happy Christmas mate 🎄🎄
I would believe it is ‘A’ or just wear and tear due to it being so small and turning so much more the the 2nd larger chain. Do you think the oil strainers block could cause it ??? And I’ll get those part numbers later 👍👍
I have just discovered that the oil pump pulley and chain have 3 marks rather than 2 on the old version, other than that it is just for sprocket wear 😉🙏🙏🙏
@@kennedysgarage3281 , I'm pretty sure you did , heaps of these motors crapping themselves, I had one last night that came in , someone was so annoyed, they put a 2.5 Petrol in they changed the wiring harness , ecu instruments. Works well more reliable .
Local garage just found my pump chain in the sump today. Don't want to know about it any further but recommended a dealership (or unknown specialist). Engine out job they say... Is there anybody in north of England who'd have a go at this for me? Think recovery to Portlaw from Yorkshire might be a bit too dear🤣😵💫
@@kennedysgarage3281he probably won't,i can do this repair on driveway, apparently garages can't do 😂 and I'm not mechanic by profession, just learning and keep doing stuff
@@kennedysgarage3281 I love these Mazda's, just bought another two, engine problems, sounds rough, garages said needs a new engine 😁 it turns out there's basically no garages in Scotland that will do actual engine work, everyone is the master of brake's and exhausts.
@@kennedysgarage3281 HI bud i have a mazda 3 2.2 diesel sky active 2014 100.000 miles about 3 weeks ago while driving the red oil pressure light came on followed by oil change due . i checked the oil and all ok drove back home 10 mile with the light on got home changed oil and filter had the battery disconnected replaced oil and filter put battery back have driven for 3 weeks no noises or lack of power still pulls like a train again today oil pressure low light came on diss connected battery light went off and then drove for about an hour and half at 70 to 100 at times no oil fault showed other than oil change due still no noises or lack of power its driving me crazy I THEN SAT IN TRAFFIC AFTER ALL THAT DRIVING AND SUPRIZE SUPRIZE OIL PRESSUR LIGHT CAME BACK ON ANY IDEAS and if the oil wasnt pumping up to the top of engine would it not start getting noisy by now MANY THANKS FOR YOUR TIME FELLA
just hearing what you said about oil getting thinner as it gets hot then the oil pressure light then comes on seems to be the symptoms i have what would that symptom point to in your opinion CHEERS
You will need a ‘Torx’ socket, size 12 I believe from memory. Torque settings 1. 29 Nm + or - 3 Nm 2. 90Nm + or - 10 degrees Make sure the bolts are no longer than 45mm Good luck with it 👍👍
@@kennedysgarage3281 Thank you mate, managed to get them off. Did you have to polish the surface of the crankshaft before installing the standard size rod bearing shells? Or did you use plastigauge or similar to measure the clearance etc?
Peter, how do I remove the crankshaft pulley on this engine..any tips or tricks? I can't crank the engine due to oil pan being open and no oil in the system at present otherwise I would have held the bolt with a breaker bar while engine is trying to turn
@@neeldub53 I would use a strong impact gun or get a flywheel locking tool. This will lock the flywheel while undoing the crank pulley bolt. Can I ask why you are removing it ?
I get some pile of these Mazda’s in for repair due to RU-vid. And I don’t mind working on them while everyone else hates them. So unfortunately the Mazda video’s are going to keep on coming 😬😬 You love them really Dan 😊😉😉
@@zzhughesd It’s a fantastic knowledge sharing forum & a by-product of it is it brings in customers for all makes & models. But it seems very few want to work on Mazda’s except little old me 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ 😂😂
This video is recorded around 2 years ago and the car is still flying. I have since gotten a timing chain splitter and crimper. Because of this video I now do around 2 of these jobs per week from all over Ireland. So it worked 🙂🙂
