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Mazda MX30 R-EV - The Perfect Plug-In Hybrid with a tiny Rotary engine - The Gateway Drug to BEV ! 

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Is the Mazda MX30 R-EV the perfect plug-in hybrid with a tiny rotary engine a great gateway drug to full battery electric ? It certainly has a fascinating drivetrain and innovative styling. It take the MX30 for a nice long drive to put it through it's paces.
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Video Contents
00:00 - Electroheads and Petrolheads will love this car !
00:56 - Why it is so interesting
03:30 - Front styling
04:19 - Boot Space
05:05 - Those doors !
07:03 - Interior - No Touch Screen !
12:21 - Road trip time - Drive Modes
14:58 - Not a performance car !
18:24 - Charge Mode
20:30 - It's charged again !
21:06 - The Rotary Engine
23:07 - Final Thoughts
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Комментарии : 751   
@SChapps
@SChapps Месяц назад
This is a great example of what most cars on the road should be. Stop trying to get the general public to think they need a fast 0-60 time. Put the time money and effort into making cars as easy to live with as possible.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
I agree 👍
@whocares264
@whocares264 Месяц назад
I agree, i have had evs for five years a leased tesla 3 a leased kia soul and now i own a bmw i3 rex to stop wasting money on leasing, i will never use public charging i will never plan a journey around a charger, yep no hunt the charger for me but i love evs so the i3 or the mazda is fine for me , the downside of the mazda, why put the petrol engine in the front, i don't want to hear it , the i3 has a noisy engine engine but i can't hear it as it is burried under the rear floor...
@renitur2292
@renitur2292 26 дней назад
The second raw space is a killer for many
@cottagegymfun
@cottagegymfun 25 дней назад
The total range with both motors fully topped off, is only 230 miles. I don't get this one. No for me.
@gregdee9085
@gregdee9085 25 дней назад
@@PetrolPed you "agree" yet one of your content tittles is "not a performance car". Would have a content tittle on a Porsche 911 review be "not a package delivery car" ?? or "not a family car"? nope, because you and your posting peers are all essentially the same.. "must have fast car".. not unlike a 17 year old. Not to mention someone demonstrating zero sense of style themselves, commenting on car styling...
@stephenholford5220
@stephenholford5220 Месяц назад
I am 12000 miles into the ownership of a 2018 BMW i3 REX. Same idea but built on a carbon fibre and aluminium chassis and with 120 to 150 miles of pure plug in range. I’ve done several 300 mile days and one trip over 500 miles with no issues and no range anxiety. It’s a great idea for your first electric car. My commute now costs me 95p as opposed to £5 and I only ever use the range extender 650cc engine on long trips.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Nice. Ahead of its time 👌
@JD2ndcity
@JD2ndcity Месяц назад
The i3 still hasn't been surpassed and should have been used as the design philosophy for future BMW EVs rather than forcing the EV issue into combustion engine designs. The i3 with improved battery tech and a 250 miles range would be 👌🏻👌🏻
@mikereeder4337
@mikereeder4337 Месяц назад
I have 2 of these! So my wife and I don’t fight for the keys! Imagine how good the I3 would be with a more modern battery. Of course the reality is that they were just way too expensive to build. Shame.
@al1356
@al1356 Месяц назад
Hi Stephen can you confirm what the range is on a single charge and using the engine please? I have looked at these before but discounted them because of the maximum range.
@stephenholford5220
@stephenholford5220 Месяц назад
@@al1356 BMW have three battery sizes and in the UK only the smaller two were available with the range extender. Mine is the middle battery size and offers a minimum of 120 miles in winter on pure electric and up to 150 miles in Summer. You can also play with the modes and push for more mileage if needed
@Wacky_Races
@Wacky_Races Месяц назад
What a cracking car! No stupid iPad screens. Proper dash. A gear knob as well. And a rotary engine as well. Delightful. Ticks all the boxes.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Cheers 👍
@USUG0
@USUG0 Месяц назад
... more like, the worst of both worlds. That car is inefficient both as an EV and as a hybrid ...
@Mizzkan
@Mizzkan Месяц назад
Yes it ticks all the wrong boxes
@Wacky_Races
@Wacky_Races Месяц назад
@@USUG0 you are so missing the point of this car
@USUG0
@USUG0 Месяц назад
@@Wacky_Races its only point is just using a rotary with no benefit at all. That will cost more to run the pretty much every other phev in its segment
@AndrewMcDonald
@AndrewMcDonald Месяц назад
This type of EV makes the most sense to me, especially given the current state of the charging infrastructure in the US.
@brainfloss9710
@brainfloss9710 23 дня назад
Is this available in the US? I don't see it on Mazda's website.
@gavinivers8941
@gavinivers8941 Месяц назад
Mazda is kind of what Honda were back in the 90's when it comes to cleaver ideas. Here in New Zealand you can buy that car in a dark metallic red ( think raspberry ) with a silver roof. Looks great. However, 1800kg. I remember when I raced my series 1 Rx7 it was under 1000kg. Modern cars are heavy.
@pinaricyt
@pinaricyt 8 дней назад
Recharging the battery using a small, lightweight rotary engine is a stroke of genius. A great way to solve the range anxiety conundrum, and it comes wrapped in Mazda's beautiful design language. I generally detest EVs, but I can honestly see myself living with one of these. Love the doggy!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 5 дней назад
👍
@tyler.greene
@tyler.greene Месяц назад
I was with Mazda for nearly 5 years and when the normal MX30 came out it didn’t do very well. When this came out I sold more of these in 3 months than I sold EV 30’s the whole time I was there! It’s a great car! I own a CX30 myself. Had a Mazda 3 also! The CX5 is probably one of the best looking, reliable and affordable SUV’s on the market! Great cars! Mazda are really overlooked in many ways! I have more spec in my mid range CX30 than a high spec X2 with no packs on it! Drives nicer too!! Love it!! 🥰
@peterbonnez
@peterbonnez 26 дней назад
Another Mazda man here, nearly 30 years with them now retired. I have a CX-5 a CX-30 and 3 MX-5's in the family. This MX-30 seems an ideal compromise for those who don't need a huge car with a heavy battery.
@DrDave_63395
@DrDave_63395 Месяц назад
Two advantages to all electric drive train is ( as you mentioned) eliminate the complexity and cost of a gearbox Secondly the petrol engine runs at its most efficient because it only has to run at its most efficient speed.
@KTPurdy
@KTPurdy 26 дней назад
bingo
@elisfsharri
@elisfsharri 24 дня назад
One more advantage : In the future the petrol engine (generator) could be replaced with one that runs on biofuels or hydrogen without needing to touch the drivetrain at all.
@flattire707
@flattire707 22 дня назад
Except it is not efficient. It gets terrible cost per mile. My Honda Civic gets better mileage.
@KTPurdy
@KTPurdy 21 день назад
@@flattire707 How so? First 30+ miles can be all electric.
@geoffmansfield2668
@geoffmansfield2668 20 дней назад
@@KTPurdy I see where you are coming from, but . . . Human nature (laziness) now comes into play. I plug in once a week to cover 5x30 miles. This Mazda needs to be plugged in nightly. After a while people don’t bother, and just treat it like a petrol car.
@Rjhs001
@Rjhs001 Месяц назад
At last, a manufacturer that has used their technology to produce an efficient, compact, practical car rather than a 0-60 in 2 seconds monster. Great car, well done Mazda and great review, well done you PP.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Indeed 👍
@whocares264
@whocares264 Месяц назад
i guess this is a knock at tesla, but tesla is far more efficient than this...
@PHADAVIES
@PHADAVIES Месяц назад
Practical? 4.4 metres long and no room for adults to sit in the rear..
@Rjhs001
@Rjhs001 Месяц назад
@@PHADAVIES It's a fair point, but I'm still reasonably impressed.
@whocares264
@whocares264 16 дней назад
you do relise a tesla is more efficient, more practical than this mazda...
@amandafranklin6285
@amandafranklin6285 11 часов назад
Had an overnight test drive of one of these from Hendy in Eastbourne a couple of days ago and loved it. On a 50mile journey of mixed motorways and up and over the hills of the South Downs and then Beachy Head, I got 50mpg and 4.2miles/kwh. And I didn’t hang about! Mightily impressed. Will be ordering one after the bank holiday.
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 3 дня назад
Mazda actually builds very underrated cars that not only drive well, but are well-built and very reliable.
@tomjanowski8584
@tomjanowski8584 25 дней назад
Finally a decent balanced review. This vehicle didn't last long in the United States but we also never got the rotary engine model. I love the exterior styling and the interior as well. I think if they had offered the range extender rotary in the US, I would be driving this today. And thank you for addressing the issue of acceleration times. Just because some EVs can get to 60 in 3 seconds doesn't mean that kind of acceleration is needed and in some situations, I would say it isn't wanted. Many drivers are no ready to handle that type of acceleration.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 24 дня назад
Glad you liked it!
@rotaryperfection
@rotaryperfection 14 дней назад
Yea the small range of the all ev version, killed that car in the states. I'm hoping that once Mazda gets enough of these sold elsewhere, and work out the bugs, that they re-introduce the car in the states. I use to own a 2014 Chevy volt and this is the same thing in how it operates but bigger.
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by Месяц назад
Well done to Mazda for holding their faith in the rotary engine; it looks like we are finally entering the rotary era.
@whocares264
@whocares264 16 дней назад
It's called flogging a dead horse...
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 10 дней назад
Yep, can't wait for them to put a performance hybrid two or three rotor version with an h shift in a modified Miata chassis for another fun RX driver's car!
@salochinthims
@salochinthims Месяц назад
Excellent review. I drive a 23 plate Mazda CX-30 Skyactiv-X MHEV with a petrol engine. It has a supercharger, but in the same way it’s not for performance, but economy and regularly returns 52+ mpg. It’s also slightly more powerful and has more torque than the Skyactiv-G MHEV engine, which doesn’t have the supercharger. I love what Mazda have done with the MX-30 rotary engine and Bev drivetrain. They are one of the few manufacturers recognising pure BEVs are not the whole answer or the perfect solution. Whilst they have no tailpipe emissions, they still negatively impact the environment across the whole lifecycle. NB. Land Rover have addressed the slow electric front seat issue for access to 2nd row passengers on the Defender 90 by introducing a manual tilt and slide front passenger seat on the latest model ;)
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
👍
@clewis5220
@clewis5220 Месяц назад
Like the look of c-30 x but I hear fuel tank is only 40L ? Is that correct thanks
@salochinthims
@salochinthims Месяц назад
According to the specs, it’s got a 51 litre tank, circa 11.2 gallons in old money. It costs me around £70 to fill up from empty, based on £1.40 for a litre of unleaded, so sounds about right.
@knelletv
@knelletv 26 дней назад
Do you know why french guys (like me) love this RU-vid channel ? 1. ALWAYS interesting content 2. The driver speaks slowly (excellent for french speaking people) 3. The 'P' of the channel logo is made of the french flag colors ('bleu' 'blanc' 'rouge') To summarize: j'adore cette chaîne RU-vid 👍
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 26 дней назад
And France is may favourite country, I used to live in Paris and when I did I spoke pretty good French !
@markdrummond7
@markdrummond7 19 дней назад
Suicide doors, no thanks.
@frankyork5808
@frankyork5808 Месяц назад
The early Rotary engined Mazdas, the R100, RX2, RX3 and RX4 were super fun cars to drive. And they sounded awesome!
@johnbee7729
@johnbee7729 20 дней назад
This and the I3 Rex are where I want the hybrids to be. I live in rural Canada and would want something that has about a 300 KM all electric range and then the ability to have another 150 KM available through gas if needed. These are getting close to what I hope to see.
@cinebenjamin
@cinebenjamin 11 дней назад
I believe it'll be more and more common. The new Ram 1500 in the US is an electric hybrid, where the engine is a range extender, with no drive train linkage.
@ThomasWilliams-ee6li
@ThomasWilliams-ee6li Месяц назад
Sounds like our 2017 Chevy Volt. We love ours
@jaaklucas1329
@jaaklucas1329 27 дней назад
Chevy Volt one of the pioneers in this concept in cars.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 10 дней назад
@@jaaklucas1329 Yeah GM is scrambling to get back to where they were seeing how Toyota is doing so well with their Prime and HEV options, pretty much is 10 year old GM gen 2 Voltec numbers. If GM kept developing Voltec and offered an HEV and PHEV version in their small pickups and CUVs they would be doing pretty well right now, especially considering how battery constrained they are right now!
@briangriffiths114
@briangriffiths114 Месяц назад
This technology has fascinated me since the Vauxhall Ampera. Great video!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Thanks for watching!
@whocares264
@whocares264 27 дней назад
and the bmw i3 rex
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 10 дней назад
The second gen Voltec was even better, GM should have stuck with developing it, they would be so far ahead of everyone else by now. But in typical GM fashion they ignored the engineers and gave the suits and bean counters the reigns for short term gains instead of long term vision. I'm all for full BEV, but they just don't have the battery production numbers to role out millions of them the way they can with HEVs or PHEVs. 1 BEV = 4+ PHEVs = 40+ HEVs.
@williamrice3052
@williamrice3052 22 дня назад
phev fan here, I am well pleased with this video, cheers
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 21 день назад
My pleasure 👍
@gavineyles3409
@gavineyles3409 Месяц назад
Love the car, I’ve had 5 Mazda’s over my lifetime and they’ve always been very reliable and fun to drive. I’ve got the new Mazda 3 takumi on order. Hoping you get more Mazda’s on the channel soon. 😊 Great and informative review Pete, Keep up the hard work.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Will do 👍
@SteveBrill
@SteveBrill Месяц назад
Great, concise film Peter . I remember working with Mazda and I had many RX8 demos. As you said, terrible oil and fuel consumption, but great performance from a little 1300cc Wankel engine. This car seems to have figured out how to take away the range anxiety, but still giving you a choice of how you power it. Well done Mazda for thinking outside of the box. 👏
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Indeed 👍
@whocares264
@whocares264 Месяц назад
BMW did this better in 2014 with the I3 REX
@ricktotty2283
@ricktotty2283 25 дней назад
I have a plug-in Honda Clarity that works very similar to this vehicle. I have found the best use of this vehicle is not to run the battery all the way down. When you travel, put the vehicle in hybrid mode. Save battery for all your local driving when you arrive. We do almost all our daily driving on EV mode. The engine in the clarity is an Atkinson cycle engine, and never really ever idles. The transmission is an EVCT that has two electric motors. There is no traction belt. The electric motors do almost all the propulsion. If you do happen to use the entire battery and don’t have the ability to plug it up the car can’t charge itself while you’re driving. You just have to put it in the charge vehicle mode. Works great. We love it.
@philedwards7174
@philedwards7174 Месяц назад
Sounds very interesting. We've ran Mazdas since 1997. They do build very reliable cars. Our current Mazda is the CX30 which from an infotainment perspective is very similar and just works brilliant. The top models do come fully loaded, and even at £39+ do represent excellent value. Residual values have always been good. Sounds like an excellent car. Can't understand why BMW didn't put a bigger tank on the I3.
@Holeyguagaamoley
@Holeyguagaamoley 6 дней назад
I value your continual honest approach to car reviews… thanks man.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 5 дней назад
I appreciate that!
@DogmaFaucet
@DogmaFaucet 26 дней назад
I love the idea of this thing. This is the way PHEVs always should have been. However, those performance numbers would make this car frustrating to use in several of the major metro areas here in the states. There have been times when I needed to push our Prius past 90 to deal with traffic. A bit better 0-60 time would be helpful too, and I think Toyota has recognized this, since the new Prius does it in 7.2s. My preferences maybe. Also my preference...I hate the dial control in my CX-5. I don't think it's any more safe than a touchscreen, and it's less convenient than having real buttons. It is wasting space in the center console. On this one at least, it's less likely to have drink spilled into it.
@doublevisio
@doublevisio Месяц назад
As a former RX8 owner I'd be interested to know what the oil consumption of that rotary is, also how often it needs the oil changed. The doors bring back happy memories though.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
I talk about this in the video. Constant duty cycle helps a lot 👍
@ronnbot
@ronnbot 8 дней назад
Really good application of a rotary engine and no other make is more suited than Mazda to do it.
@captainzook6834
@captainzook6834 27 дней назад
Great video review of this Mazda model. Same drivetrain technology as the BMW i3 Rex from 2014-2021. Glad to know a manufacturer continued to use this drivetrain setup. I love my 2014 BMW i3 Rex!
@the_lost_navigator7266
@the_lost_navigator7266 Месяц назад
I think you slipped up by not using all of your electric range before getting to the hotel. It would have reduced your fuel burn as much as possible. As someone who drives 10-20 (regular) miles a day, this makes much more sense than a 200 mile Bev and is simpler and has better range than a phev. We need more cars like this (maybe a more practical minivan/MPV). Maybe the futuristic BMW i3 rex really was ahead of it's time, and will become a future classic. Thanks for the review.
@Jim_Urquhart
@Jim_Urquhart Месяц назад
Spot on. The most efficient way to use the car is to run in normal mode. Then if you know you have charging at your destination, switch to EV mode once within range if the destination.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Very true 👍
@Molishious
@Molishious Месяц назад
On my PHEV depending on settings, it will sometimes count electric miles as free so an 80 mile trip that is 40 mpg on the engine with 40 electric miles and 40 gas miles will look like 80 mpg. So when he says 37.5 mpg, is that totally separate from the electric miles used?
@solentbum
@solentbum Месяц назад
@@Molishious Surely the way to 'cost' your mileage is by simply addding the cost of charging the car to the cost of petrol used. If you charge at home that can be very cheap, away from home the costs vary greatly.. Petrol seems to vary almost daily and by place. For me cost per mile is the best measure in my BEV. Most miles are at 2ppm, whilst when away from home it can rise to 19ppm. For the short trip in this video the price would have been 2ppm , and depending on the overnight charger cost not much more for the return trip. (The charger at the hotel appears to be free! putting the return price at 1ppm)
@Molishious
@Molishious Месяц назад
@@solentbum I’d like reviewers to focus on efficiency as cost is going to depend on the price of gas and electricity in your area. I have yet to find the MPG for this car. No review mentions it. PHEV’s really need to be looked at with two efficiency’s, Gas and electricity. Gas, MPG, is easy in an ICE car, but it gets muddled in a PHEV as electric miles get mixed with gas miles. To get the MPG you need to drive the car once your have used up the EV range and the car has to move on gas power. So my car has 3 numbers, my actual MPG is around 38 MPG, my ev efficiency is 2.9 mile/kWh. Then I have the fake MPG that shows when it adds all of my electric miles into my gas miles acts as if the electricity is free. That’s 60 mpg. Ppm means parts per million to me so I’m not sure if it has a different meaning here. To me those numbers would be about tailpipe emissions maybe. I like looking at the efficiency numbers on my car but in reality with the amount I drive it’s not a big part of my expenses. I like to feel like I’m wasting less energy, but honestly, what keeps me driving electric is that it is so damn fun.
@ianfranks3571
@ianfranks3571 Месяц назад
Fascinating stuff. A real eye-opener. Thanks Ped.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@whocares264
@whocares264 Месяц назад
this is like the 2014 BMW I3 REX....except the mazda has shorter electric range...and slower...and noisier...and uses more fuel.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 24 дня назад
@@whocares264 Mazda also costs less and will be far more reliable.
@eltonkingsley5617
@eltonkingsley5617 Месяц назад
I think this is a really interesting car and a little more unique to look at than other mass produced vehicles. I believe Nissan have a similar range extender models, perhaps it would be an idea to ask Hendy group nicely for a quick drive of an example. Keep up the good work, hope you are feeling better.
@kevincross9206
@kevincross9206 Месяц назад
Wow, have Mazda found the Holy Grail? I was a bit concerned when you mentioned rotary engine, but was ahead of you thinking of how it’s used here. For the average motorist, I can’t see anything not to like with this. It looks great from the front, that colour combo works brilliantly. I love the badging as you mentioned. The suicide doors are a marmite thing, but personally I think they’re cool. A small negative, the interior looked quite dark, a lighter headlining would be good, and all dashboards seem to have gone down the “slab” look, but they’re minor gripes. Well done Mazda, this deserves to do well 👍🏻
@johnbb99
@johnbb99 Месяц назад
My BEV BMW i3 is 1300 Kg. That should be a target for all small EVs. No wonder the current crop of big heavy EVs are so inefficient.
@kevincross9206
@kevincross9206 Месяц назад
@@johnbb99 trouble with the i3 is it’s been smacked with the ugly stick - multiple times!! #beautyintheeyeofthebeholder 😆
@johnbb99
@johnbb99 Месяц назад
@@kevincross9206 As you say, in the eye of the beholder. It's no Ferrari, or even Mazda 6, but it's a whole lot better than many euroboxes, or KoreanContainers; (and let's just not mention the Juke.... Oh Damn.)
@kevincross9206
@kevincross9206 Месяц назад
@@johnbb99 🤣
@jaaklucas1329
@jaaklucas1329 27 дней назад
The concept is the same as a diesel train which is actually a diesel electric train. E motors drive the wheels and the diesel engine is an electricity generator.If only they could run the generator on clean burning fuel though!
@-PORK-CHOP-
@-PORK-CHOP- 20 дней назад
n Australia we have a completely different drive train, it's a 2.0L 4cyl petrol, with mild Hybrid it has a 6-speed Skyactiv-Drive automatic, vehicle weight is less than yours at 1400kg, it's called MX-30 M Hybrid
@tz6414
@tz6414 10 дней назад
Great review, that car actually interests me, which is unusual for a modern car. Attractive styling, practical bumpers, The only thing I don’t like is the fact it’s not a proper 4 door, the size of it should allow rear people to get in without disturbing the front.
@willielarsson9651
@willielarsson9651 25 дней назад
When you compare this road test against the Peugeot 3008 Phev last week, where you depleted the battery on the outward journey and had no charge for the return. This car is so clever and makes a lot of sense.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 24 дня назад
Yep 👍
@willstillo72
@willstillo72 Месяц назад
Not sure it pleases both sides, rather it would have them both hating it. However, for the vast majority of motorists who aren't in either camp, this is a great idea. Nice video Pete.
@raymondhunt6109
@raymondhunt6109 Месяц назад
Interesting review of this car and you are one of the few reviewers who think this car is very good.As a Mazda 3 owner who doesn't do big mileage I would be interested in this car if I had a home charging box which is not possible. The full electric MX30 can be picked up for bargain prices used with very low mileage now also.
@chrisbarron5861
@chrisbarron5861 27 дней назад
I never thought a car manufacturer would mass produce a series hybrid in my life but, Mazda need to be applauded !
@whocares264
@whocares264 24 дня назад
2014 bmw i3 rex , same system but better
@chrisbarron5861
@chrisbarron5861 24 дня назад
@@whocares264 My oversight, you're right. The pretenders EV :) :)
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 25 дней назад
On our 70mph roads the actual flow of traffic is at least 80. It’s not quite fast enough. But as a city car it seems perfect. Except that the Prius exists.
@guywhoisnotbob
@guywhoisnotbob 14 дней назад
I live in 80mph territory, though the flow doesn't average much higher. Personally, I'm not a fan of such high speeds. Great to get places a bit faster but my van doesn't seem to like it and my mpg takes a big hit.
@jasonshaw1628
@jasonshaw1628 Месяц назад
Great video as always. Thanks 👍
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Thanks for watching!
@I-Libertine
@I-Libertine 25 дней назад
Yup, love that it isn't a 'flying ipad' like everything else out there. Rotary? Oh, yeah. Just the kind of soulful car they don't make anymore.
@frankyork5808
@frankyork5808 Месяц назад
Funny you say that, I have always been surprised how few Mazdas are on the roads in the UK. The Mazda 6 is a huge seller in Aus and yet when l see one in the UK, l always do a double take, because they're so rare. Not sure why because they build awesome cars.
@Boomflame82
@Boomflame82 15 дней назад
Depends where they're made. Quality here in Canada took a dive when they outsourced to Mexico vs when they were made in Japan.
@joaomonteiro1258
@joaomonteiro1258 Месяц назад
If you can charge at home ( and are not lazy;) plug in hybrids are fabulous vehicles I own a Prius Plug In from 2021 and absolutely love it.
@joshnnik
@joshnnik Месяц назад
A great review and in today’s driving conditions with all the speed restrictions, this car’s performance is ample. It’s definitely a car that I would buy.
@user-te9eh1uv7w
@user-te9eh1uv7w 6 дней назад
I had a 1972 RX2 and I got about 5 MPG. I would have a 2015 Volt that GM says gets about 37 mpg. I think it is a failure if a gas engine is used that gets less than 50 MPG. Other wise there is not much savings if the typical range requires the gas engine to run. I certainly agree to the excellence of the Mazda cars and I agree that they are quiet.
@billwinward9324
@billwinward9324 24 дня назад
Very impressed by the car and your road test. Just taken collection of a Skoda Enyaq and whilst I love it, I am already experiencing range anxiety as I might need to do a 400 mile round trip in the near future! I have an iPhone loaded with about 15 apps and I’m sure that one day I’ll make sense of them. This little Mazda sounds like what I should have gone for, a great piece of engineering.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 22 дня назад
Just make sure you stop before you get to 20% to give you options 👍
@SofaTvNetwork
@SofaTvNetwork Месяц назад
Very good job, by the way. You sell me the intelligence of this car, and that's the way it as to be. I add to that, the transition the public as to made, as the industries as to do. Again, bravo and thanks!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Thanks! 👍
@marcusswalwell209
@marcusswalwell209 Месяц назад
Inspired copy 10 years after the BMW i3 - except the i3 REx weighs 1300kg, does 100miles on battery and 9Litres charges the battery for another 100 miles (and obviously quickly refilled)
@firstdown80
@firstdown80 Месяц назад
Subscribed! Very interesting drivetrain combination.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel 👍
@user-ol5zt9bt9i
@user-ol5zt9bt9i Месяц назад
Ah a sensible combination, totally agree with you comments. Thank you sir.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Very welcome
@sbukosky
@sbukosky 25 дней назад
I was sold in the first minutes. That is practically exactly what I believe an EV Hybrid should be. It's good looking too, unlike the BMW, what was the model, I3? Alas, it doesn't appear to be sold here in the colonies! Come on! I got some money burning in my pocket!
@user-ei4wk8yw3v
@user-ei4wk8yw3v Месяц назад
I guess that 39mpg is when the engine runs. So that could be double over a journey. If it had a different badge, it would sell like hot cakes. Thanks, very good insight.
@johns14a
@johns14a Месяц назад
Nice review Ped. The Mrs has booked a test drive in one at our local Mazda dealer on the strength of this.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Nice one!
@brubru6819
@brubru6819 Месяц назад
Jason Plato will have a melt down when he sees those rear doors❤
@lucianolizana446
@lucianolizana446 13 дней назад
Finaly someone did it! electric power train + a generator for better range and much lower weight, since a huge battery wont be needed, besides 50M is perfect for everyday use
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 12 дней назад
👍
@keithweybury5212
@keithweybury5212 Месяц назад
Hi Pete and glad to see your non performance side. Very interesting motor. I as an Aussie, big distances over here, so I have never felt pressured about driving my all Electric Volvo C40. Good planning and never miss a planned charge point on the journey takes that aspect away.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Cool, thanks
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 Месяц назад
Cheers mate see you Monday
@reinmansmith
@reinmansmith Месяц назад
Full credit to Mazda for producing a car that focuses on efficiency and range instead of out and out performance, along with what, in the current market, is a ‘sensible’ price point. If manufacturers are going to entice people across to EVs this is what is needed. I personally think that it again proves the point that for anyone who regularly does longer journeys a hybrid is the obvious practical choice. My ‘daily’ is a Toyota RAV4 hybrid which, in the 2.5yrs I’ve owned it, has averaged 50mpg which is fantastic efficiency for a comfortable family sized SUV and I have my ‘toys’, a V8 and a couple of motorbikes for my thrills! 😊
@larsnystrom6698
@larsnystrom6698 7 дней назад
I thought 30 years ago, that kind of hybrid were the right way to do it. The electric drive chain is the key to it. But at that time, batteries were a real problem. Now, I would most likely buy a BEV. What's needed is charging to be available also at apartment parking. That shouldn't be so hard to get!
@alasdairwilson4806
@alasdairwilson4806 Месяц назад
Really interesting review.Looks like a great car.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Thanks! 👍
@kimborch-kristensen752
@kimborch-kristensen752 Месяц назад
really a nice car , and a wery impressive review thank you, make you think if this should be my next car 🙂
@grogman1911
@grogman1911 25 дней назад
Boy I like that. I hope Mazda brings it to America.
@martinandellie
@martinandellie Месяц назад
I am guessing that oil changes etc on the rotary are are few and far between Peter. Great video, nice to see a different perspective.
@bobbralee1019
@bobbralee1019 29 дней назад
I have a BMW I3 Rex 100-120 mile EV range and 9 Ltr of fuel total range 200 + miles perfect for my needs
@willemm
@willemm 5 дней назад
I think this is perfect. Not sure the rotary engine was really necessary though - would have worked just as well with a normal engine.
@kiefershanks4172
@kiefershanks4172 26 дней назад
For something like this, you would be best discharging the battery entirely and then letting the rotary come on and operating continuously. Topping it up as you go will make the car far less efficient. Same for any plug-in hybrid really. Engines are most efficient and produce the lowest emissions when they are at their ideal operating temperature so just turning it on willy nilly here and there is only costing you more money than necessary and going counter to the whole reason to go electric (reduce local emissions). The whole point of this car seems to be finding a good balance between combustion and battery. The range seems small but most of the time it would be sufficient for most trips for the average driver. The rotary is your insurance to ensure you aren't stranded should you need more range and public charging is not an option. Another advantage is having a smaller battery and a rotary, the car lighter and thus won't chew through tires like a lot of EVs do. It also isn't super powerful either which also improves tire life. This vehicle seems quite rational. However, the inability for the rotary to directly power the wheels is a mistake in my view. This dramatically lowers the efficiency when the rotary is running. If it had an eCVT like the Prius, that would be more sensible in my humble opinion. But if the new rotary has only a very small efficient RPM band, I can see why the series hybrid choice was made. I would probably choose a Prius Prime over this. I think Toyota still has the hybrid market cornered as they have the best hybrid formula so far.
@KTPurdy
@KTPurdy 26 дней назад
I love this approach to PHEV, using the engine strictly as a generator while enjoying a pure electric drive train. I wish this car would have come out 15 years ago, I would have bought one. I've long believed that rotary type generator was the best option for powering a generator in a car (small and smooth). It will be interesting to learn more about the different ways this Mazda can leverage its generator. One winter driving feature that I love about the Chevy Volt is the option to heat the cabin purely from the generator. Car heaters can really suck juice out the battery so when I'm on longer trips, I heat the cabin with the generator and focus the battery purely on powering the drive train. Not only is this the most efficient approach to winter driving, but it allows me to use the generator to warm the battery to its optimal temperature. Even though I love my Volt, I would have chosen this Mazda, complete with rotary, if that option would have been available.
@whocares264
@whocares264 24 дня назад
it did come out 10 years ago with the bmw i3 rex...
@mikebikekite1
@mikebikekite1 19 дней назад
I suspect the heat pumps on modern Teslas are a lot more efficient.
@Boomflame82
@Boomflame82 15 дней назад
However, the Chevy Volts were discontinued before heat pumps could be included to even further improve heating efficiency before the gas engine warmed up enough.
@KTPurdy
@KTPurdy 10 дней назад
@@whocares264 The i3 rex still had a short range of I think 120 miles. To go beyond that you have to drive
@canonbangpowell
@canonbangpowell 26 дней назад
Superb car. Only downside is that in the UK, the road tax is £180 a year. Why?
@Fredric169
@Fredric169 22 дня назад
I like the concept. Well presented. It makes a lot of sense, looking at the current infrastructure to recharge EV‘s. How fast can the battery be charged at a powerline?
@andyreact
@andyreact 20 дней назад
This is the kind of thing they need to do with "electric" vans, just have a tiny diesel motor running as a generator and half the battery size! As long as the engine has enough power to push the vehicle along at motorway speeds (with conversion losses) you will have whatever range you need!
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Месяц назад
Well what do we need performance vehicles for in a small country with a speed limit of 70 miles an hour? You can’t really use a performance car anyway!!
@nickbull6603
@nickbull6603 Месяц назад
I was given one of these as a company car, had it for two weeks and swapped it for an eNiro. The Mazda is well screwed together, and it drives very well in EV mode. Trouble is the EV mode doesn't last long enough and when the battery is depleted the rotary engine fires up and sounds horrendous, think early 2000s Prius and you won't be far off, it drones away at a constant and annoying pitch. It is also incredibly thirsty, on a run of 230 miles the first 40 of which were just using the battery it averaged 32mpg.
@HologramJones
@HologramJones Месяц назад
This is one of the best looking cars out there
@Mizzkan
@Mizzkan Месяц назад
😂😂Keep taking those pills.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
👍
@roodick85
@roodick85 25 дней назад
Bring the RX back like this! More power for sure but yes!
@KevinLyda
@KevinLyda 26 дней назад
Really wish Mazda would make an EV Miata. The EV Miata conversions are fantastic, but one made from the ground up to be an EV would be even better.
@robertd2363
@robertd2363 Месяц назад
It looks amazing! Mazda goes its own way again!
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
It does!
@clewis5220
@clewis5220 Месяц назад
Great video to do many thanks I would love to see a clip of you getting in and out of rear seats no one seems to show that bit?
@bdeithrick
@bdeithrick 24 дня назад
Definitely a good review. Car worth keeping for quirks
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 24 дня назад
Definitely!
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick Месяц назад
The Lexus CT200H never needed plugging in. 1800cc engine?. Charged the battery itself. I averaged 50mpg with nearly 100k miles on the clock and 10 years old before I sold it.
@thomaseast7699
@thomaseast7699 16 дней назад
Mazda really are quite inventive or alternative. I really like their thinking.
@Ukonly
@Ukonly Месяц назад
Agree with all positive comments More of these hybrids please
@morf121
@morf121 Месяц назад
Great vid, but did I understand the figures correctly, 100mile journey with net fuel efficiency (presumably including being supplemented) of just under 40mpg for a small car with average performance , it still seems to stack up poorly against a small diesel polo ? Or equivalent which would offer more performance and more efficiency?
@andyl200
@andyl200 7 дней назад
It's a bybrid car that doesn't have a hybrid engine, unlike those of Toyota. Technically, Toyota's hybrid engine is much more efficient. Some energy is lost when a gasoline engine is used to drive an akternator in order to charge the batteries. Inspite that, I still like it for the fact that it's also a plug-in. For those using it primarily for short trips, it means never having to fill up most of the time, and no range anxiety for occasional long trips
@mattiparviainen607
@mattiparviainen607 Месяц назад
What an interesting car in so many ways. Thank You !
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Glad you liked it!
@mattiparviainen607
@mattiparviainen607 Месяц назад
Actually this might be next daily, really interesting car.
@lewismcnicholas2631
@lewismcnicholas2631 Месяц назад
Sorry Ped - think you have misunderstood how the consumption dials work in a PHEV - the more you use the petrol the higher the miles/kWh will increase so the reason it’s 3.8 at the end is because it’s been on the petrol a fair bit hence why under 40mpg. Do like the car and it has a use case if only have to do the odd long journey but I think I land more where JayEmm has with this one
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
It a normal PHEV I agree, if it gave you the figure that is. That’s not how this PHEV works though as the petrol engine never powers the wheels so the kWh/Mile figure (Miles/kwh) is totally independent of petrol consumption.
@lewismcnicholas2631
@lewismcnicholas2631 Месяц назад
I still think there will be a connection - I would run it in ev mode only and compare the mile/kWh figure as then it won’t be potentially tainted by the REX element - it should do well for a PHEV but wouldn’t expect more than 2.5 miles/kWh in reality
@Landwy1
@Landwy1 12 дней назад
I own a Honda Element that has "suicide doors." Unlike the Mazda it has a full back seat and the cargo area is huge. It also has the ability to fold the rear seats to the sides or completely remove them. It has a cult following. I have the manual transmission version with AWD. Great for skiing (snow and ice covered roads) and mild off roading vehicle. If Honda would have a drivetrain on an updated Element, like the Mazda, or the old Chevy Volt, I would buy one. Most likely an update to the Honda Element will not be offered. I'll probably end up with a full electric small van, carry a small 2KW inverter generator and a couple gallons of gas to charge the electric battery. A van with a solar panel on the roof and sides would be great for a charge if you leave the vehicle for a couple of days such as at a trailhead. Then you wouldn't have to carry the generator.
@georgedaville4662
@georgedaville4662 Месяц назад
Same drivetrain as my Honda HRV, but the Honda has a 4 cylinder Atkinson Cycle engine. Love the electric drive and 60+ mpg. Took me a while to choose the Honda, but a year in I am delighted with it. I am sure the Mazda is just the same. Good vehicles for the transition to EV journey. 👍😎❤️
@johnbrown3951
@johnbrown3951 Месяц назад
An interesting concept but after our ownership experience of a Mazda 3 with a rattle and the stereo sound system not wanting to work regularly we punted it fairly quickly never to return to the marque. I'm not sure you could class it as a family car as there is no chance anyone is sitting behind you in that car. I do like the rotary wheel controlling the functions that I carried from my Mazda to my next car being the JCW.
@Emaratilfy
@Emaratilfy Месяц назад
Love this car. Only gripe is the touch screen for A/C. Very unlike Mazda. And the all EV MX-30 is perfect for commuting around the city on shorter trips. I just think people judge it unfairly. Of course it can’t compete with EVs costing 1.5x to 2x more with larger batteries. Shame that Mazda doesn’t sell more units.
@cbotten106
@cbotten106 Месяц назад
Cool to see a review of this. Never released this rotary version in the States. It's like a little Ferrari Purosangue with that door.
@paulnicholls2351
@paulnicholls2351 Месяц назад
Hi, great vid and a really interesting car. What was the overall average mpg combining elec and fuel?
@grid212
@grid212 Месяц назад
Great review, super interesting car.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
Glad you liked it!
@anthonykeller5120
@anthonykeller5120 25 дней назад
It may not be zippy, but how does it do when you need to pass one of those lorries on the motorway? I used to have a rotary engine pick-up in the 9170’s. One of the most reliable vehicles I ever had. Could certainly handle big loads for a small pick-up.
@idavidmcclune
@idavidmcclune Месяц назад
Thanks again for another interesting piece on a very interesting car. I absolutely love the concept and I've been saying for a while that my ideal car would be exactly what this Mazda provides: a self charging electric car with around 50 miles of EV only range. But.... And there have to be 3 buts: 1. The weight! 1.8 tons! It's a tiny car with a small battery which weighs the same as my S4 diesel. Lordy, what have they built it from? 2. The efficiency! It's not all that great, is it? I'm guessing the battery range was being supplemented by the engine providing some electrical power directly to the motors. Your end battery efficiency was so much better after engine use than when it was on battery only. And that petrol consumption is terrible for a generator. A generator should run very efficiently in a set optimised rev range. I'd have expected 80+ mpg from a 70hp motor in those conditions. Btw, on the run you did, I'd expect my S4 to do around 45mpg. 3. Size. An occasional 4 (uncomfortable) seater is not an adequate compromise to reduce weight and gain efficiency, particularly when neither weight not overall efficiency are anything to get excited about. Lovely looking car, interesting take on the plug-in hybrid concept but ultimately it's a compromise that currently doesn't seem to work fully. I'm still waiting for that EV or hybrid Holy Grail and until then I'll be sticking to my "dirty" diesel. Sorry about that everyone.
@jaaklucas1329
@jaaklucas1329 27 дней назад
Look up Edison trucks, they are using this hybrid concept. Electric drivetrain is so superior.
@bengoey
@bengoey 26 дней назад
Very interesting , thank you
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed 26 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@wordreet
@wordreet Месяц назад
You just drove the car I would probably buy if I could! I actually like the looks, though I'd prefer it a bit lower. But I always knew I would choose a plug in hybrid! Hopefully you might put a bicycle in the back just to check the available space.
@wordreet
@wordreet Месяц назад
I just realised it's the round head/tail lamps! Can't abide the latest aggressive styles.
@TheHutchRuns
@TheHutchRuns Месяц назад
Speed sign recognition is an assistance, you can't rely on it to get out of a speeding fine Pete, you need to use your own eyes as well! Greta video though and I really like the sound of this car as a daily proposition.
@PetrolPed
@PetrolPed Месяц назад
As an advanced driver I couldn’t agree more 👍
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 24 дня назад
This is what I do wonder why more cars don't have it? A small constant running engine charging the battery at all or most time, so that you hardly need to charge, but only to fill it with fuel for the engine.
@andym1908
@andym1908 Месяц назад
The original twin rotor RX7 Turbo Bat mobile. Was only a 1.3 .but around 260 bhp .
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