Absolutely stunning your place let alone the opportunity for you to have this amazing barn turn into a absolute dream garage but I would go with a triple & put the kitchen upstairs as you have shed loads of room!! As what an opportunity to have a triple rather than a double!!😬 Good luck whatever you decide but triple all the way for me Pete & thanks for the tour!!👌🏻👍🏻
With the office and bathroom upstairs, think about putting the kitchenette up there, too. Then you're not up and down the stairs every time you and visitors fancy a cuppa, and it gives you more vehicle storage/orientation options. If you're desperate for a downstairs sink and tool store, there'll still be room for both under the stairs. It’s going to be a great project. Thanks for sharing your journey
Yah brings back some good memories Pete. I remember having our self contained barn built, that was a long time ago now and it stores cars, motorbikes and some racing carts. Lots of good times in there. Enjoy the build it’s an awesome experience ❤
Did exactly this with my barn about a year ago….kitted it out with a lift and workshop for my historic rally car. Great project and fantastic addition to have 👍
You have an enviable spot there. Countryside, but with immediate neighbours giving a classy spacious suburban feel. Stone and timberwork. Farmland on your (back) doorstep. I'll miss the rustic feel to it, but it's your garage, not mine!
Hi Ped I can appreciate the excitement on the start of the build. We carried out a not dissimilar project at our last house 9yrs ago. I would join others in saying 3 Bay garage on ground floor with all other facilities on 1st floor. Never regretted that decision on our project as our "fleet" went up to 5 in total! Wish you luck and look forward to plenty of content on progress to completion.
I agree with others, don't give up your garage space for a kitchenette. Build it upstairs or eliminate it from the design. You need room for cars, you have a kitchen in the house. Whatever you decide to do, happy building!
I would advise planning to put in plenty of network cabling now (CAT6), the cost and ease to do it early makes life so much easier. From many years of experience always run 2 CAT cables to every place you think you might need them. Run everything back to a small patch panel and allow for PC, Diagnostic equipment, TV, phones and more importantly security camera locations etc. Finally allow a underground duct heading back to the house if you should need to push anything through at at later stage, as you wont want to pull up the nice floor. Good luck with the build! 😀
I also agree with others that it would be good to have a third car bay. If it were me, I'd also put a double or triple carport in front of the triple garage to accommodate your daily drivers and a visitors spot (and an undercover charging bay).
@@hpman911 I can't see why not. Although I understand where you're coming from. And Ped said they couldn't get permission to allow direct access to the first floor from the rear. But from the front it wouldn't change much. A flat-roofed timber carport, stained dark brown would seem more in keeping than what they've given permission for. But you may well be right, because AFAICS planners often have very limited vision. IMO, a timber deck on the back would have been nice as well, but clearly the planners think such will affect the farmer's outlook and privacy, or they have some other strange idea of the environmental impact of a door and a very limited increase in humanity on display.
Irrespective of many of us thinking we know better, I am genuinely pleased for you. A dream coming true, and no matter what, it's going to be fantastic when it's all finished.
Great video and very timely! After battling with local planning for 18 months we kicked off our 1860s car port to garage/workshop conversion last week. Our barn was a threshing barn and the car port was horse shelter/feeding. Not as large as scale as yours but similar in other ways. My SwissTrax flooring arrived yesterday, eager to put it down!
You may be surprised to know that projects like these, especially being done by a car enthusiast, can be every bit as interesting if not more than the usual review videos. I will certainly give everyone a lot of ideas for their own garage. I love these types of project videos. Looking forward to the process. Enjoy.
Note sure if anyone has mentioned this but think about ventilation. I've had typical family cars until I bought a 911 last October which I am very passionate about. The car is garaged and not used as a daily drive. I'd always thought that garaging a car would be good for it but over the winter I installed temperature and humidity sensors inside and outside the garage. The garage is of normal construction with brick walls, slate roof and an up-and-over door. What I noticed is that the relative humidity (RH) in the garage was typically 10% to 25% worse than outside, varying between 65% and 90% RH over much of the winter when outside was typically less than 70%. I understand that the risk of mould increases greatly when relative humidity is more than 70% so these results concerned me. To address this and control the RH you can use dehumidifiers or keep the temp above about 15 deg. C. Both can be expensive and are hard to do in a garage with so many holes and gaps around doors. Another and cheaper alternative seems to be forced air circulation. So pumping outside air into the garage using an extractor fan type arrangement. It seems a 150mm fan should be enough but I have not tested this. Currently I'm part way through my research on the solution but will certainly install something for next winter. The reason for the post here is to encourage you to look at building in some form of humidity management into the new garage as it's being built. This should be cheaper and better than retrofitting later. And apologies for the long post!
@@PetrolPed Pete, it might be worth buying a cheap 'hygrometer' ... you can get them for under £20 from the bay. I use one in my man cave, as I have expensive acoustic guitars, and have to control the humidity of the room. Even the cheap ones are accurate enough, you can literally blow on the sensor and it will instantly change the reading. Edit - the one I use actually costs about £8 ! The model number is a HTC-1 ... shows temperature, humidity, and the time.
Remember me? Been away a while! Im the guy that got the Schnauzer called Mabel after seeing yours featured so much. Got to say shes the best thing ever to happen to me alongside my son, so thank you. Looking forward to your garage build, so jealous of where you live.
Looks quite a project Pete. I’ll add to the chorus of voices saying put the kitchenette upstairs as by the sound of it you’ll be spending time up there filming and editing which is thirsty work 😉 and would give you an extra bay for that Morgan 3 Wheeler that you probably don’t yet know you want 😁
Being a builder myself I can see this is not going to be cheap, especially with the barn being built into the banking (lots of tanking etc) and also because it’s in the national park and will have to be in keeping, which is what I’m sure you want. Will be amazing I’m sure. PS them timbers you pointed at are roof trusses and those particular ones are king trusses, Google roof trusses design if your interested 😀
Just what I was thinking 👍 I’m not a builder but having a lean to at the back of our house that’s built into a slope I’m aware good planning is a must to prevent damp problems. Am sure Pete and his architect have considered this but it’s a good point to raise.
Can you replace the rear Velux with balcony type Velux where they open up and lower part out with hand rails. They are great in summer. Maximise garage floor space. Kitchenette upstairs!
Looking forward to this. Love building work, as well as cars. Designed and co-built 2 big extensions to the house we've now lived in for 28 years - loved every minute of the whole process. Good luck.
Hello Peter! I envy your project and your room…I had to give up my big double garage, parking area and separate workshop for a large single but this time I designed it to work properly! Ideas for fitting out…an IKEA kitchen gives excellent storage and 600mm deep whilst the dedicated workshop units are mostly 450 or less and far more expensive. Remember you need more electrical sockets…everywhere..not just in the studio. Don’t forget an accessible water tap for car washing plus drainage channels in front of the doors to channel rainwater away. Do you need a built in sound system??? Do you need a garage pit for access and to give unusual content angles. LED lights…some at floor level for more video opportunities. I have bought three Hormann electric doors and they work perfectly…don’t buy cheap rollers…retractable panel doors are much better looking and have insulation. Dehumidifiers…air conditioning..heating…insulation…consider each carefully! I wish I was designing one myself!!! Good luck with the roof!! 😃😃😃😃Richard.
Just wow, the first thing i noticed was that you were going from 3 spaces to 2, and then you were converting it into a house ( no bed on the drawings but enough space for one) Imho, skip the gym and put the kitchenette upstairs. I'd also put in a batman style firepole for easy access to your vehicles from the first floor.
Lastly, do make sure to move your electric charger to the outside. The last thing you want is the much greater fire risk of charging in an enclosed garage.
@@solentbum And how many times the number of petrol cars than the number of BEVs are there? Moreover, the main reason for petrol cars catching fire is fuel leaks because of degraded hoses and such like. Anyway, my comment wasn't strictly about the increasing number BEV fires being reported, but rather the particular risk of fires when charging, particularly in enclosed spaces, for which there is plenty of evidence. And we're hardly comparing such risk with the risk of fuelling from a petrol pump, but there's also good reason why petrol pumps are outside!
@@nigel.w The figures I found took into account the differing numbers of cars involved. As you point out the most frequent cause for ICE fires is leaking fuel, a problem that doesn't occur with BEVs. You will have noticed during your research that one of the times when fires in ICE vehicles often occur is just after the end of a journey, so keeping ICE vehicles outside is the safer option. One problem with the available figures on charging fires is that the Media fail to differentiate between fires in the high quality BEVs manufactured by named companies, and fires in cheap poorly made scooters and light motorcycles. There is even a vast difference in the risk factor between early Tesla EVs and currently produced batteries, with different chemistries and different constructions.
hope all goes well, working with old structures is always full of potential surprises, and its an emotional journey sometimes. good to see the plans flash up. Moisture management with the old walls and ground behind will be important given its been open for so long. It will take (a long) time for everything to rebalance and settle down, once you close the space up. Be prepared to wait once works are finished before you put humidity or moisture sensitive things inside - your favourite art or posters etc.
Great to see something different too Ped. Harry has his farm & barn, you’ll have a garage. I’d put in a wet room for you and the pups but I’ve got a goldie so my pups get really dirty after a walk! Anyway, looking forward to the progress report videos.
I’m sure Tracey would prefer you and the pups cleaned off before entering the main house. Doesn’t have to be a big wet room, circa shower cubicle, just get the main muck off. It’ll be warm water too, pups and humans always prefer it warm. 😉
Excellent project. Tanking (most important) power supply, humidity, lighting.. make sure they are all thought through. Try not to compromise on quality (not that I think you will!)
I’m very much looking forward to seeing this develop over the coming weeks. I was meant to pop down to Dura to plan out my garage cabinets in April. Unfortunately a large vet bill has postponed that. Hopefully one day soon 🤞🏻
What an exciting project. Looking forward to the updates. With my work hat on, make sure you let your building insurers know about the changes and make sure you increase your building, and potentially your contents, sum insured when completed. 😁
Another vote here for putting the kitchenette upstairs so as to not waste ground floor area. I'd also want to minimise other stuff like the tool store bit to be able to maximise the floor area. Parking/storage lift would be high on my list too. Maybe somewhere for Ruby to sit as she seems the least used given your various test cars.
I had a feeling you was going to do something with the Barn Pete .. I'm so happy that this will change everything for you mate .. Please video all the build 🙏 ❤
Looking forward to seeing it, i would definitely put kitchen upstairs, you can always add stuff down stairs later if you want it, that way upstairs can be used as a studio flat and downstairs a proper garage work shop, I’m just designing our new house and 3 garages with oak covered area to wash vehicles if raining, and daughters cars Good luck iv been in building for 35 years and there are always hidden costs
I agree with others that there should be a kitchenette upstairs, not least because you then have the possibility of renting it out. Even though you probably don't think you'd ever want to do that, the reality is that retirement is expensive and there may come a time when some extra income could be very welcome, and so for very little you get a whole heap of flexibility. That doesn't mean that you can't have a small sink bench downstairs as well.
@@hpman911 True enough. But then the permission for a full bath would seem a little strange. And of course, you can apply later for change of use consent, and the way the UK is going all councils are likely to encourage people to develop such space for either letting or tourist accommodation.
Several posts have mentioned alterations and extensions to the outside of the barn. My brother lives nearby and has recently refurbished his cottage. The hurdles and consents required by Chichester District Council to do anything in this area of outstanding natural beauty are not to be underestimated to say the very least !!!
Can’t wait to watch progress and all the suggestions for kitchenette upstairs are very good. You’ll need that extra bay when Mrs P brings her Ferrari home one day 😂
Pete, I feel this! I have spent 30 years with work moving all over the world, so I will buy my first house and build my first garage shortly. All my cars are usually in storage, imagine never having had my own garage….I honestly can’t wait. Enjoy mate, looking forward to watching your progress. Please list all the costs and issues, as I have all this to come.
Hi Peter this is so exciting my mate so looking forward to watching you on this journey and seeing this dream garage becoming a reality and thank you for sharing this with us all regards to mrs P & the pups 🐶
Probably a job not for now, but are you allowed solar panels on the roof? If so, it would be very interesting to see content on how much battery is charged in % terms on an EV car solely from your roof, on various days, sunny, cloudy etc. Good luck with the build, looking forward to the video's.
Probably solar panels would not be permitted in a conservation area but solar slates would be and could be a good future proofing option and best to build in from the start.
@@PetrolPed Well you do live a healthy lifestyle, so when you are 300 years old, the Solar panels will for sure ROI :) or causes of global warming, whatever comes first :(
Thanks so much for sharing this project. My dream is to move back into the country and have an in keeping garage like you are doing. Good luck and well done!
I'm so happy for you! I understand when things you dream about come to be reality. Seeing your excitement makes me get excited about the build project. Also, I just love seeing your miniatures moving about the property with you. Keep them as much as you can in your videoclips, they are just amazing! Again, congratulations!!!
