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Mazda won Le Mans 8 times (And we all forgot about it) 

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That's right, the 787B wasn't the only rotary to win the 24h of Le Mans. It's without a doubt one of the most popular race cars in the world but that does mean its relatives have fallen into obscurity. They too were Le Mans victors and built the foundation the 787B now lives on. So let's leave the 787B for what it is and talk about every other rotary to win at Le Mans.
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@jeracerx
@jeracerx Год назад
Small correction, the Kudzu DLM wasn't an evolution of the DG-3, and was actually a completely new car for 96
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
I annoyingly discovered this too after i uploaded. They initially wanted to do an upgrade but soon realized making an entire new car was the best option
@ThunderCrashed
@ThunderCrashed Год назад
small correction, we never forget the 787B or its sound
@maza19
@maza19 Год назад
if we count category wins too, god knows how many wins Porsche has
@b2battledroid8
@b2battledroid8 Год назад
Just did the maths, they should have 19 wins overall and I think about 104-105 class wins.
@rafaywasayshafay3655
@rafaywasayshafay3655 Год назад
109
@jetengnexd4348
@jetengnexd4348 Год назад
I appreciate that you talked about other classes. In my opinion, talking about just overall wins is kinda dumb, because of course the fastest class is going to have the overall win, but each class contends for their win and races the full 24 hours, so they should all get recognition.
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
true, some of the lower classes have seen some truly dominant performances. the oreca vipers are the perfect example.
@jeracerx
@jeracerx Год назад
It does make it funnier when that doesn't actually happen, early 2000's Daytona 24s and the 03 Spa 24 are prime examples of that, honestly times where the top class didn't win overall would probably be an interesting vid topic
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse Год назад
@@jeracerx Petit Le Mans 2015 is another - along with (somewhat) the 2016 race; though it could be argued that the LMP2s were 'equal top' class.
@GetIntoItDuhh
@GetIntoItDuhh Год назад
Rotor fans never forgot. The cancellation of the RX Vision was our Great Disappointment
@cgunnr8251
@cgunnr8251 Год назад
I come for car and hear ACE COMBAT 👀
@kinger41
@kinger41 Год назад
God those Kudzus are so underrated. Shame no one ever talks about them.
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
i know right. the kudzu DLY4 even has the same engine as the 787B and won its class at Daytona in 2001. mega underrated or just unknown to the general public
@andrewarmstrong7254
@andrewarmstrong7254 Год назад
Jim Downing was a key in that program. Then, he was key to the development of the HANS device. Pretty high strike rate there.
@deepinthewoods8078
@deepinthewoods8078 Год назад
One week after his victory in Le Mans with the Mazda 787B, i had the rare honour to sit next to Bertrand Gachot on a hot lap around the Zolder racetrack. The most exciting experience of my life ...
@justagirlwhoisangy5393
@justagirlwhoisangy5393 Год назад
Ace combat backgrounds, you're based
@marco1173
@marco1173 Год назад
Man, Group C had the meanest, coolest looking cars in motorsport. I remember going to Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez in Mexico City for the '89 championship, at the height of Group C's popularity. That Mazda could be heard coming from miles away -- it was supremely loud! My favorite tho was the Silver Arrow Sauber-Mercedes that won that year and was dominant for much of the period. Fantastic cars, all of them.
@dmcharlestt4945
@dmcharlestt4945 Год назад
Man, that Ace Combat menu music in the background is doing things to me lol Keep up the great content!
@dcdude345
@dcdude345 Год назад
A lot of people also forget about how Mazda absolutely dominated the lower classes of IMSA, think the RX-7 is still the winningest model
@shoominati23
@shoominati23 Год назад
Not as forgotten as Matra and their 3 wins between 1972 and 1974 , now THAT would be a VIDEO!
@TougeSolo
@TougeSolo Год назад
The RX8 was awesome to watch in the US IMSA series. Looked so funny racing against 911's, M3's, and Corvettes, but all be damned if it wasn't successful against those powerhouses.
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 Год назад
You mean the RX8 GT, from the Grand-Am Rolex sports car series? I loved that thing! especially loved the Speedsource 70 car!
@effisjens1776
@effisjens1776 Год назад
7:22 was hoping you are going to mention this. I remember reading this years ago right when the LMDH/LMH rulesets were fully finalized and immediately thought of the golden oppurtunity Mazda has with this... ...But no. They off course have to use the rotary engine now as a range extender for the MX-30.
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
At the very very least mazda is making something rotary again. We all know the best place to test new technology is the racetrack so never say never. I dont see it happening soon realistically but im not giving up all hope just yet.
@hughcdavies
@hughcdavies 6 дней назад
I only went to the 24 hours once, 1989. Merc finished 1, 2 &5 overall, Mazda 1,2, 3 in class, the only 2 teams to bring all their cars to the finish.
@clicheguevara9917
@clicheguevara9917 Год назад
would love an episode on diesel in racing. or cart. or anything. fantastic videos
@USAAMERICAFUCKYEAH77
@USAAMERICAFUCKYEAH77 Год назад
Audi won couple times with a diesel
@Holeecrab
@Holeecrab Год назад
we do really need a video like this nowadays. Thanks for making it!
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
I know right? Thanks. And thank you btw for making excellent drawings. Fun fact, the green i use in my thumbnails is the exact same green you used in the 4x4 vw iltis drawing i commissioned from you a while ago.
@Holeecrab
@Holeecrab Год назад
@@stijnpaspont oh wow it's been a while hahaha
@robbyk5266
@robbyk5266 Год назад
Today I learned about Mazda's successes beyond the beloved 787b!!Thank you for reminding me how much I love Wankels!
@zu_1455
@zu_1455 Год назад
Someone get Rob Dahm a sponsor
@AustinMiller-nr3it
@AustinMiller-nr3it Год назад
Loved the video very informative, but it's slightly criminal to not include rotary noises in a rotary related video...
@superduperluigi676
@superduperluigi676 Год назад
This is also why Juan Pablo Montoya is technically the only other driver to win the Triple Crown.
@dingrey
@dingrey Год назад
When did he win lemans
@Suprahampton
@Suprahampton Год назад
When did he win the F1 Championship?
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse Год назад
@@Suprahampton One of the "Triple Crowns" (Graham Hill's original) was the Indy 500, Le Mans 24 hours and Monaco GP. It was only later that it became the World Championship as the F1 element.
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse Год назад
@@dingrey Only the Pro-Am category of the LMP2 section in 2021. So a sub-section of a class.
@Where_is_Waldo
@Where_is_Waldo Год назад
7:19 4WD Rotary-electric hybrid... we can only hope.
@93SupaFly
@93SupaFly 11 месяцев назад
maybe the RnD for it too expensive and I dont think Mazda cashing as well as honda or toyota...so...yeah..
@clippydaclip
@clippydaclip 8 месяцев назад
In french we say : l'espoir fait vivre (Hopes keep us alive basically) we also say : tant qu'il y 'a de la vie, il y'a de l'espoir (as long as there's life, there's hope) I'd say that waiting for a Mazda comeback at le mans makes us immortal
@Where_is_Waldo
@Where_is_Waldo 8 месяцев назад
@@clippydaclip 😁
@hugoperry1452
@hugoperry1452 Год назад
Excellent, excellent video!!! Good work!! Important history that people didn't know, or care about.
@louischapman7290
@louischapman7290 Год назад
awesome vid! the algorithim blessed me with ur channel :)
@featherfinfilms
@featherfinfilms Год назад
This will probably be the most viewed video featuring Kudzu race cars tbh
@beunhaas102
@beunhaas102 Год назад
Wow that indeed was a big surprise, I never knew. Thanks for sharing the story!
@2fast4speed87
@2fast4speed87 Год назад
I love these videos!
@himmelhero
@himmelhero Год назад
That Jun RX7 was a sight to behold what a beauty one of my favorites
@SetsunaTheFandom
@SetsunaTheFandom 26 дней назад
Anything mentioned after 787B in this video is just enough to defeat the "rotaries are banned" allegations thrown by... well, some "mainstream". Kinda sad that Mazda didn't capitalize off of the LMDh regulations, they exited IMSA when this ruleset is being introduced, but I just hope that they would cook once more especially knowing that rotary engines are referenced in the sporting regulations, though I wonder which team would be interested in running it...
@jmirsp4z
@jmirsp4z Год назад
huh.. didn't know about this.. very cool video, thanks!
@jaredhuang2225
@jaredhuang2225 Год назад
Should mention the 792P as well, too bad Mazda pulled the engine right after the 91 season so it could never race
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse Год назад
They didn't have a choice - the rotaries were banned in 1990 and weren't supposed to race in 1991. It was only the low 3.5L entries that at meant that at Le Mans only, they could enter the rotaries in 1991. The 792P was an IMSA-only car too, so was never intended for Le Mans.
@shaggydoo8886
@shaggydoo8886 Год назад
Very cool to see the LM55 from gt7 at the end
@justinress2782
@justinress2782 Год назад
So, if we say that Mazda won Le Mans 8 times, that would also mean that Mario Andretti won the Triple Crown, right?
@musewolfman
@musewolfman Год назад
I think a fair way to put it is that they won Le Mans once, and won *at* Le Mans 8 times. A subtle but important distinction.
@japaneseracingcars
@japaneseracingcars Год назад
This video should be pinned permanently on RU-vid’s main timeline! Thanks for the video, man! Mazda at Le Mans isn’t just the 787B
@uniber_8646
@uniber_8646 Год назад
best intro ever
@TransportSimulatorNationTSN
Because it's not Mercedes or Porsche that's why everybody forgot about them
@ernestogasulla7763
@ernestogasulla7763 Год назад
Nope... no one really cares about minor category wins. Do you see Porsche or Ferrari celebrating the hundred times they won at GT, GTLM or their many similar classes?
@peterdaviesracing
@peterdaviesracing 6 месяцев назад
Even the teams that got the class wins? :D@@ernestogasulla7763
@vintageman91
@vintageman91 Год назад
Really cool cars those 80s Mazdas.
@chejlr
@chejlr Год назад
Is it really a win when you're the only one in class?
@sharcc2511
@sharcc2511 11 месяцев назад
To be fair, surviving LeMans at all is a feat of its own
@umad9784
@umad9784 10 месяцев назад
"To finish first, first you have to finish"-You know who
@jacksama502
@jacksama502 8 месяцев назад
isnt that the point of an endurance race? reliability is more important than speed
@schnitzel438
@schnitzel438 Год назад
I just found your channel. Your voice is calming and the commentary is entertaining while I cook 😂 Thanks from Australia!
@aqiimkhairin101
@aqiimkhairin101 Год назад
Nowadays Mazda makes a bigger displacement 2 rotor engine and probably if they enter again with 3 rotors, it'll probably give the same output as 4 rotors. We need Mazda back on Le Mans!!!!
@kevingame3198
@kevingame3198 Год назад
Not to mention, we have a vision Gran Turismo concept LM 55 would be a perfect opportunity for either LMDH or LMH
@ernestogasulla7763
@ernestogasulla7763 Год назад
They got crazy lucky once, but they know very well they were never that competitive...
@USAAMERICAFUCKYEAH77
@USAAMERICAFUCKYEAH77 Год назад
It's endurance racing ain't no luck in that . Like if it's their fault they engineered a car that looked still bran spanking new even after 24 hours and practically race ready after the lemans win . Get that lucky shit out of here
@Socsom
@Socsom Год назад
Ace Combat music
@baransenyuz9382
@baransenyuz9382 Год назад
haha dorito goes brr
@guerrinlove69
@guerrinlove69 Год назад
Lotta haters in this comment section saying a class win isn't a win in LeMans, you're entirely wrong. If that were the case, then why are there classes? A class win is just as impressive. It's a culmination of all the hard work put into the team, and also the car. "Loved the video and I've learned a lot of new stuff.
@mintgoldheart6126
@mintgoldheart6126 Год назад
They're most like the same people that drool over the Shelby Daytona
@guerrinlove69
@guerrinlove69 Год назад
@@mintgoldheart6126 yeah or also "no replacement for displacement" American muscle car type folks hahaha
@s2korpionic
@s2korpionic Год назад
They're just coping at the fact that a japanese team won that much internationally.
@musewolfman
@musewolfman Год назад
I think a good distinction is the word 'at.' They won Le Mans once (as in overall,) They won at Le Mans 8 times (class wins) You are absolutely correct that a class win is just as impressive, as the only car designed to go for the overall win was the 787B, so to expect any of the others to win overall is just absurd.
@guerrinlove69
@guerrinlove69 Год назад
@@musewolfman completely agree on that distinction!
@AminTyros
@AminTyros Год назад
In the 1991 Le Mans race, many of Mazda's competitors, including the Mercedes Sauber and Jaguar XJR9, were slightly more powerful than Mazda, but none of them could last 24 hours because they were turbocharged and also heated much more, but the 787b with a naturally aspirated engine produced 700 horsepower. Bukhari left behind all the competitors, that's why the legendary Mazda monster is a fitting name for the 787b. I wish I could see the 787b up close one day.
@ernestogasulla7763
@ernestogasulla7763 Год назад
Nope. Jaguar only raced one 3.5 liter XJR14, and it was N.A., same as the others which were 7.4 liter XJR12. The only turbos on top were the Mercedes C11, but they used a very low boost turbo which had comfortably won the 1989 edition (Mercedes did not participate in 1990).
@unassailable6138
@unassailable6138 Год назад
The Mercedes Sauber was being driven by Schumacher that year when it face off Mazda 787B, the problem was not so much the heating but the transmission gave in as it was a Diesel Engine and produced too much low rev torque for the transmission to resist.
@ernestogasulla7763
@ernestogasulla7763 Год назад
@@unassailable6138 Whaat? The Mercedes C11 had the same 5 liter engine of the earlier C9 and it used gasoline. And Schumi's car had no transmission issues, only overheating and finished 5th.
@thechannelimashamedof2361
@thechannelimashamedof2361 Год назад
Any interest in making a video on the Grand-Am - ALMS split in American sports car racing (1998-2014)? it was pretty similar to the CART-IRL split in American open wheel racing, but a lot less well known.
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
Id need to do quite a bit of research on it as tbh i dont really know all the ins and outs of the split myself and then the eventual merge that ended up giving us the IMSA championship of today. Its all surface level knowledge. So were gonna keep it on a "maybe one day"
@thechannelimashamedof2361
@thechannelimashamedof2361 Год назад
@@stijnpaspont Makes sense.
@s.rharikrishna1656
@s.rharikrishna1656 Год назад
Following your videos, the content is just amazing
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
thank you! i don't plan on stopping any time soon. i still got a long list of topics to cover and I doubt I'll ever run out of stuff to talk about
@matsimmo6208
@matsimmo6208 Год назад
Loving all these videos! Keep them Coming
@zachkrampus8425
@zachkrampus8425 Год назад
I’m loving your videos so keep up the good work! A video about Oldsmobile racers would be awesome if it was 80’s and early 90’s Trans Am, their short stint in IMSA in the mid 90’s or their Indy 500 dominance in the late 90’s and early 2000’s.
@iKR-iKeysRacing
@iKR-iKeysRacing Год назад
Congratulations and all the kudos to you for this very well made video 🔝💪👍 Not only informative but really full of sincere interest, research and clear view on the matter. I hope it will help people to stop to silly consider Mazda as someone that won LM with rotary engine for pure casuality. The RX7 model also won its class (for what I remember) 9/10 years in a row in IMSA between the end of '70s / end of '80s. Such a remarkable technology, too easily put aside by sanctioning body (FIA) under pressure by "traditional" manufacturers at the beginning of the '90s. Best wishes & cheers from Monza 🥂 Marco Lazzari [iKR]
@Joop.23-2-63
@Joop.23-2-63 Год назад
Very well written. I can live with this statement. Cheers from a litlle town in county Twente near the German border, Netherlands.🍻🍻🍻
@iKR-iKeysRacing
@iKR-iKeysRacing Год назад
@@Joop.23-2-63 hey good morning! Thanks for your cheers: when it's time for a beer I'm always on...pole position 😬 And thanks for your words! Very kind indeed 👍💪 And if you happen to come in Monza for the WEC in July you'll be my guest: beer here isn't special, commercial one, but there are some decent pubs in Monza where to grab for you something acceptable. Best regards and wishes 🔝🔝 Marco Lazzari [iKR]
@kevingame3198
@kevingame3198 Год назад
I want Mazda to come back for Le Mans 2024-2026 and design should be influenced by the Mazda lm55 vgt concept car should take on the likes Ferrari Peugeot Cadillac Toyota Porsche lmdh cars
@sandasturner9529
@sandasturner9529 Год назад
Didn't mention the Mazda rx-792P
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse Год назад
The 792P only raced in IMSA; for 1992 at Le Mans they entered the Jaguar-based Judd-engined MXR-01.
@lowspeedhighdrag566
@lowspeedhighdrag566 Год назад
Is this ace combat briefing music?
@himmelhero
@himmelhero Год назад
Yes Briefing 1 - Ace Combat 5
@lukasethan6429
@lukasethan6429 Год назад
That’s ok; so did they
@tem0079
@tem0079 Год назад
Keep making these informative videos!
@boyfrmnewyork
@boyfrmnewyork Год назад
My old RX7 race car approves this video!
@ducedevlstear2471
@ducedevlstear2471 Год назад
Hey Stinj, when are we getting that Lola history video ?
@stijnpaspont
@stijnpaspont Год назад
Don't count on it any time soon. But that doesn't mean specific lola cars wont be featured in future videos
@ducedevlstear2471
@ducedevlstear2471 Год назад
@@stijnpaspont also nice thing would be a video dedicated to Rotary cars in the rest of races, not LM exclusively. Btw, now I see I mistyped your name above, sorry.
@bryanlimbag6945
@bryanlimbag6945 Год назад
im drive me for mazda 757-767-787b in 1987-1991 esay drive mazda race car was softing gear shifting of mazda 757-766-787
@Adrian_Nel
@Adrian_Nel Год назад
Didn't know that Boeing had shares in Mazda. Thank fff I'ma joking or all of those cars would've crashed.
@divecolosio4988
@divecolosio4988 Год назад
Crashed? To the wall or to the tower? :v
@-sixy-
@-sixy- 6 месяцев назад
@@divecolosio4988😦
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim Год назад
talk bout yourself boi, a 787b fan here since gran turismo 4 days
@alexmaus5059
@alexmaus5059 7 месяцев назад
Ok, but why MAZDA? It was Robert Wankel.
@FYKDV
@FYKDV 7 месяцев назад
yes he invented the engine but he didnt race lmao
@peterdaviesracing
@peterdaviesracing 6 месяцев назад
Robert? Not Felix?
@ahuramazda323
@ahuramazda323 5 месяцев назад
Felix wankel
@Dr.Mcstaby
@Dr.Mcstaby 26 дней назад
Mazda was the only company using the rotory. Also i think they have rights to that engine ( i could be wrong on that but I dont see anyone else use the rotary on cars)
@alexmaus5059
@alexmaus5059 24 дня назад
@@Dr.Mcstaby The first Car using the Wankelmotor was the NSU RO80.
@boktorinator693
@boktorinator693 Год назад
forgor
@michaelgomez4994
@michaelgomez4994 Год назад
so by your logic porsche has won le mans 109 times because of class wins…it doesn’t work that way
@ernestogasulla7763
@ernestogasulla7763 Год назад
Come on, dude, the wins that go down in history are those of the top class - overall classification. Do you see Ferrari or Porsche celebrating their GT and GTLM wins together with their Prototypes, Group C, WSC, LMP1 and LMH wins?
@NGKGMR
@NGKGMR Год назад
You halfwit
@DaitakuHelios
@DaitakuHelios 11 месяцев назад
Then you go ask aco to cancel the lower group, or less bullshit😅
@davestvwatching2408
@davestvwatching2408 11 месяцев назад
Ferrari and Porsche celebrate all of their wins regardless of class. Both makes created one make GT series to celebrate such accomplishments. The GT classes at LeMans have become a lot more competitive since the 1990s so yes, it is a victory worth celebrating. Plus GT cars have much more races to run in.
@clippydaclip
@clippydaclip 8 месяцев назад
"Do you see Ferrari or Porsche celebrating their GT and GTLM " uh ... have you ever read a Porsche add ? like ever ?
@kevinblankenburg4816
@kevinblankenburg4816 Год назад
When you win at Le Mans, you win overall. A class victory is not a win. There is one winner at Le Mans. Class victories are... lame.
@Linnea-nb2jh
@Linnea-nb2jh Год назад
That's not how literally any person doing endurance racing sees it, though.
@eamonahern7495
@eamonahern7495 Год назад
Class wins are significant. They're justification for all the hard work each team member put in to getting the best from their car. They deserve to be on the podium at le mans.
@michaelgomez4994
@michaelgomez4994 Год назад
i agree in that case corvette won le mans 8 times in a similar chassis.
@mintgoldheart6126
@mintgoldheart6126 Год назад
Damn, that's a really bad take.
@ryancuda45
@ryancuda45 Год назад
i consider class victory a win, as long as there is at least 5 others in the class.
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