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Look at this thing, it’s called the Delta Wing - and it’s like no other race car you’ve ever seen.
So I got looking into what the deal is with it, and it’s actually GENIUS. But it failed epically, let me explain.
Everything about this thing is weird - front tyres narrower than the ones on your car, no wings and one of the strangest shapes you’ve seen on a racetrack.
The main idea for this thing, was to make a car go as fast as an Indycar - but with half the power, half the drag, half the weight and half the fuel consumption.
Bold ambitions. And it got bolder, they were aiming to race this against Indycars, but also against the INCREDIBLY FAST LMP1 cars at the time.
So they thought outside the box and chose a delta wing shape.
It’s actually nabbed from Concorde, and it’s surprisingly simple. Let me explain.
Jet planes like the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Concorde use a Delta Wing - essentially the triangular wing that is similar in shape to the greek letter Delta.
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@jmd1743 Год назад

I respect them for being bold by trying something different.

@MagnumLoadedTractor Год назад

To be fair everything was different with lmps back them...

@KarsonNow Год назад

Can it be that the design was too good to fight with most racing series? Most genius was thinking out of the box...here literally.

@d.e.b.b5788 Год назад

@@KarsonNow It kind of reminds me of when Granatelli brought the turbine cars to Indianapolis, and they just created rules to keep them from being competitive.... then Formula 1 did the same thing, outlawing 4WD when the lotus 56 basically just took over the races when it rained.

@user-td3du7jk2x 11 месяцев назад

two down force wings in front would have helped.

@user-td3du7jk2x 11 месяцев назад

@@KarsonNow No, the exact opposite. Because of the front of it, it wasn't as safe at the same top speed as the other cars and was harder to control because it wasn't able to turn as well. It may be unbeatable in a straight line Drag race, but any turning would hinder it.

@gavalant366 Год назад

It's always fun to see when motorsport engineers basically say "Y'know what, let's build this car because why not and just see what happens"

@erojerisiz1571 9 месяцев назад

bad piggies but for professional grown ups

@Mr.Marbles 3 месяца назад

those kinds of cars always make the most entertaining races imo. i mean that was the whole vibe of group b rally and it was awesome :D

@Frostfly Год назад

The legal issues on this thing are nuts as well. He glossed over it at the end, but it was a BIG thing

@Cheeky_Goose Год назад

I feel like legal mumbo jumbo always ruins innovation. If those engineers worked on it, IMO they should be allowed to take that info with them back to Nissan because this project was too cool to go down like that

@dimetime35c Год назад

@@Cheeky_Goose agreed! Either they need to make an experimental class, Or allow more innovation.

@MikkoRantalainen Год назад

@@Cheeky_Goose I agree. The correct way to combat "stealing IP" this way is to have long enough non-competitive clause in the contract. However, that gets really expensive really fast and its the reason it is not used more often and instead companies go to court to try to handle these cases.

@G_de_Coligny Год назад

Legal issues are good for public road going cars. For racetrack non road legal car… how about GFY…

@KarsonNow Год назад

Can it be that the design was too good to fight with most racing series?

@samuelzackrisson8865 Год назад

It was heartbreaking seeing it crash at le mans

@banovsky Год назад

Also sad that DeltaWing didn’t follow through with the road version, and that the similar Nissan BladeGlider concept EV wasn’t made beyond one prototype-that’s the kind of EV we need…

@saxplayingcompnerd Год назад

IT CRASHED EVERY RACE!!!It was garbage. It got blown off the track by everything. The front wheels were too small for any grip.

@Gl-my8fw Год назад

@@banovsky we don't need any evs honestly.

@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo Год назад

@@banovsky Yeah, can't wait to hear the person next to me taking while having 22 other of these go slowly around the track 😂.

@RandomiusBronius Год назад

@@Gl-my8fw True, we need Thorium engines. That stuff can last for centuries and is even cleaner than evs.

@kooooons Год назад

I remember seeing it on RU-vid on chris harris on cars. My favourite thing from that video was that the front end was so light, they had to use bicycle shocks for the front suspension. One person could easily lift the front end.

@rolux4853 Год назад

I also saw that video and I’m a Mountainbiker so I was absolutely amazed seeing the same shocks I use on my mtb in that amazing car!

@arthor675somthing Год назад

Wow, at first I thought you missed typed that and meant motorbike shocks, but bicycle shocks that's impressive and light themselves

@PaganiZondaF650hp Год назад

@@rolux4853 with how marketing heavy the bike industry is, I’m surprised I never heard Fox or so say their dampers where used in lemans

@meh6897 Год назад

@@arthor675somthing hahah fox shocks are as legit as it gets. People will break before a crown with fox 40’s will.

@CommentFrom Год назад

Chris Harris is one of the most pompous assholes in the world

@jarod6714 Год назад

Watching this I thought the big fatal flaw with the delta wing was going to be something mechanical, but it ended up being corporate sabotage. I can't help but feel racing would be totally different today if the powers that be didn't keep on massacring every new idea that threatened to even slightly get in the way of profits.

@psychlops924 Год назад

I still remember the Delta Wing leading the 2016 Daytona 24 Hours in the middle of the night. There was an LMPC car that spun in turn 1 and the Delta Wing hit it. They really were on track to win the race at that point, I'm still sad it didn't happen.

@sanurawat1651 Год назад

It was their first race & they still did pretty good...

@IheartMount Год назад

I was hoping to hear a bit more about one of the most intersting aspects of the Delta Wing, the vortex sealing of the undertray! Inspired by the BLAT technology on the Eagle Indy cars of the early 80's, this is one of the key developments of the aero package on Delta Wing. The delta shape of the undertray has little to do with jet aircraft, as jet fighters and Concorde use delta wings for entirely different reasons. The delta shape wing is less prone to wave drag in supersonic flight regimes than other wing planforms, while also maintaining lift at low speeds with high angle of attack due to the large vortices generated over the wing, but these conditions are not applicable to the Delta Wing vehicle here. The vortice generators along the leading edge of the undertray help to "seal" the undertray, much like a low sliding skirt, improving the downforce generation of the undertray, and creating a lower drag to downforce ratio. Otherwise great video, such an interesting vehicle from an engineering perspective.

@piuthemagicman Год назад

Modern F1 cars do this too, look it up.

@IheartMount Год назад

@@piuthemagicman Oh no doubt. F1 aerodynamics is heavily rooted in vortice generation, for a wide range of reasons, including sealing undertrays and wing endplates, as well as general air flow management. But for the Delta Wing, it is such a crucial element to the aerodynmaic package, given the entirety of its downforce is generated from the undertray, and the vortice sealing is perhaps the single most prominent aerodynamic feature on the vehicle, so I thought it would warrant at least some kind of mention in a video dedicated to it. But yeah, there are many uses for vortices on a race car.

@chrisjohnson3253 Год назад

Ye ground effect nothing new then

@lukemathews8942 Год назад

That flip they showed well that under tray was removed and brought back from petit. I sold it wish I would kept it.

@alanhat5252 Год назад

@@chrisjohnson3253 the "ground effect" in the '78-'81 "ground effect era" was achieved with physical skirts, they were banned because they were getting damaged which caused problems.

@AdamWithem Год назад

I will watch any Delta Wing content. It was by far my wife's favorite car to watch. We were lucky enough to catch it a few times. Always been a fan and I really hope it comes back

@GT1Vette Год назад

We were also lucky to see this race.

@RuToClose Год назад

I was at Petit the year it first raced. Lot's of footage here from that race. Very nostalgic. It was a very cool car. If I see delta wing I also click.

@nicstroud Год назад

0:56 While Concorde's wing is technically a delta wing, it is not a triangular. Concorde has an _ogival_ wing, a modification of the optimum delta for better efficiency at low speeds, specifically take-off and landing. Pedantry aside, interesting video.

@joequinn9743 Год назад

Its interesting that Don Garlits (Top Fuel dragster legend) had a similar steering problem when he was developing the first successful rear engine Top Fuel dragster. His final solution was to mechanically slow the steering down.

@paulfitz-gibbon6091 Год назад

I was working at Dan Gurneys All American Racers when I saw them turn a 10' block of styrofoam into the prototype for this overnight on their gnarly CNC machine. Then over the course of a few weeks, it turned into a complete tub and rolling chassis. Very fitting Dan and his son Justin's crew were allowed to develop this car - I have so many fond memories of that hallowed ground. Long Live AAR!!

@pnblondon1087 Год назад

Glad to see mention of the Gurneys and AAR - they should've been mentioned in the video!

@RobCabreraCh Год назад

Lucas Ordoñez and the Delta Wing were main characters of my racing dreams when I was a teenager. A Gran Turismo gamer who was so good on the playstation that they gave him a seat on the 24Hr of LeMans? I always dreamt of being like him and suddenly getting a call from Kaz to come join Nissan and the GT Academy and race with him on the 24Hr of Nurburgring.

@augustortiz Год назад

Id love to see this exact same type of episode on the FWD GTR LMP that Nismo tried.

@procatprocat9647 Год назад

Fwd is dull wheel drive. It was never going to excite real drivers.

@jackarmstrong7285 Год назад

@@procatprocat9647 It was meant to be AWD but Nissan rushed the development. Combustion power to the front and an electric flywheel type device powering the rear wheels

@augustortiz Год назад

@@procatprocat9647 there are plenty of awesome FWD enthusiast cars. Stop being so narrow minded.

@Modi_ Год назад

@@procatprocat9647 real drivers get excited by all types of drivetrains. i'm 100% sure a track spec civic will smoke anything you drive.

@procatprocat9647 Год назад

@@Modi_ you're confusing lap time with driver enjoyment. It's a common mistake. Even a low powered lightweight rwd sports car is immeasurably more involved and satisfying to drive than a one dimensional fwd motorised shopping trolley irrespective of power output.

@klutchcustoms2428 Год назад

I had a go with the le mans spec on the simulator. I feel validated as a race driver now because my conclusion was the same! 😂 As soon as the rear tyre hits the curb the whole thing suddenly oversteers and is a sod to correct. It's like steering sensitivity is set to 200%.

@piuthemagicman Год назад

open diff doesn't help. I'd say that's caused roughly 50% by diff & 50% by steering.

@K31TH3R Год назад

@@piuthemagicman 100%. You can also reign in the instability over curbs with trail braking. I also played around with adding an LSD to the car in Assetto Corsa, and you could make it behave a lot better (to a point) with changes in differential preload. But where you gain stability over uneven surfaces with the LSD, you end up sacrificing too much maneuverability in both low speed and high speed corners. Sometimes the car feels absolutely fantastic on flat road courses without many elevation changes, and it's an absolute hoot to drive. But on more varied surfaces, to make it actually viable it feels like it needs a whole suite of electronics, with active aero, and brake/torque vectoring to get it to keep up with more "standard" machines with a similar power to weight ratio, and if you need all that just to get it to keep up I think that says everything you need to know about the concept. I still think it's absolutely cool as hell though.

@demon1954 Год назад

How much time would you lose or gain by avoiding the curbs?

@K31TH3R Год назад

@@demon1954 Anything you do to improve it's consistency and predictability around the corners usually ends up hurting your lap more than it helps, since you pretty much need to be driving the thing at 100% of it's potential and using every bit of the track due to it's lack of corner exit speed versus other machines in it's class, else you just lose too much time. That is a big part of what makes it really fun to drive in a sim, since you need to absolutely send it and go full YOLO all the time to stay competitive. But if behaves in sims the way it does in real life (which it does seem to do) I can't imagine it's characteristics are particularly desirable for the people tasked to actually drive the thing among other cars on the track.

@msytdc1577 Год назад

@@K31TH3R sounds like how modern jet fighters had better performance by being unstable (read easier to manoeuvre as they weren't fighting inherent stability), but weren't practical until fly-by-wire and computers were able to micro adjust the control surfaces multiple times per second. Sounds like the same thing would enable greater control and performance by not having the car upset so much in the first place and this not requiring a lot of heavy handed correctional forces to regain control.

@kabel9357 Год назад

"genius" is a pretty strong assessment. I spoke to a few of the drivers of the imsa delta wing back in the day and they really struggled with it.

@sanderheijselaar5687 Год назад

Still remember it at Le Mans. It was great to see it racing and really sad how it's race ended

@Zincamariano-oy9lt Год назад

NISSAN Delta wing was sabotaged. Beautiful prototypes It would be very interesting to see LM cars in different forms and shapes eagerly for delivery of a chalanging performance

@Wagonman5900 Год назад

The Deltawing should have been great. By the end of the 2015 season if I remember right, the Deltawing was faster then anything else on the straights, and starting to be a threat in championship fights. The next year at the Rolex 24, the Deltawing drove to the front of the field and held the lead overall on pace alone. Unfortunately, they crashed into a stalled prototype challenge car in turn one. That was the last of the Deltawing.

@mikejohnson5900 Год назад

A great subject Scott! I saw this car at Laguna Seca. Also was really pissed that Nakajima couldn't take the time to make sure he cleared the Deltawing as I had been following its development and was hoping it would do well at LeMans. Too bad. It was an interesting car at any rate.

@groundedgaming Год назад

First second and I see a big black oddly shaped thing...😂

@kahlaaja Год назад

Thanks for the full background story! I really liked deltawing when it came all the years ago, but never heard anywhere what really killed the project, which I was sad about..

@tomcoon9038 Год назад

I love the fact of REALLY really thinking outside the box. Whether it dominated or not, SOME things were learned from this experiment. I'm sure we'll never know but this is the definition of innovation. Somewhere somebody used info off this experiment.

@O530CarrisPT_C2 10 месяцев назад

Maybe this car could work if two things could've been added or resolved: - Added a halo (like in F1) or an aeroscreen (like in IndyCars) to protect the driver in an event of a crash - The torque vectoring issue gets fixed by redistributing the weight.

@groundedgaming Год назад

0:06 that helmet was realy close to the ground😬

@QwoaX Год назад

Which is not that much different from formula cars pre halo. Especially F1 onboards from 2017 look scary nowadays.

@numbfinger7137 Год назад

I remember back then the first time i watch 24 hours of Le Mans live on TV i saw those unique cars, i love the car because it's different than any other cars on the track.

@teddrewflack400 Год назад

The main reason this car was genius is because it looks like a robot . Anything that looks like it could transform into a robot at any second is cool . Robots , are cool .

@Alex-mn4wz Год назад

Delta wings are good for supersonic flights, it does not reduce the drag at subsonic speeds (if it was the case, all airliners would have delta wings)

@garneauweld1100 Год назад

I loved that car! Something different, something bold and it looked quite well on track at speed. I never did figure out how it did not roll over. A brave endeavor that mostly succeeded.

@litsmoderngaming Год назад

*"genius ... failed epically" that says everything*

@terryfleming7084 Год назад

I remember that car at Road Atlanta. I was able to get up close to it and it looked so weird, but so clean. I glad to see your take on the car.

@audioengineer86 Год назад

This was a super interesting video, I loved the breakdown. Another car I always wondered about was that about that Tyrrell P34 F1 car from the 70's.

@donaldvincent 9 месяцев назад

I love it. The confidence to try something original deserves much respect. Thanks for posting this video.

@dellrobot Год назад

Love the content, keep it going

@AKracecars Год назад

My favorite Racecar ever built. A true display of a deep understanding of vehicle dynamics

@johnosborne4368 Год назад

Danny Panoz is a good guy. One of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Just saw him not too long ago. The Panoz story is a cool one!

@robm3534 Год назад

Used to be the machinist at Panoz. One of the best jobs I ever had.

@PoRRasturvaT Год назад

I remember one thing commenter said during Petit Le Mans: "it's funny to see GT cars putting themselves right behind the deltawing for slipstream, as if they would get any..."

@santadam Год назад

Fascinating design and a great breakdown of the story! Much thanks.

@Frankestein01nl Год назад

Well, i for one,loved this concept... would have loved to see more of it.

@SelectCircle Год назад

Loved the editing! This vid went by fast - no drag!

@yiorgos272 Год назад

I saw it a few yeas ago while testing at Top Gear Test Track @ Dunsfold Park, and the way the nose would dive in at Gambon was really uncanny as was the overall speed with so little power. Also, mentioning delta winds on aircraft like Concorde & Eurofighter in relation to this is is wrong, at least in engineering terms, probably less in marketing/publicity ones. The reasons they work on aircraft is totally irrelevant in cars as I can't imagine any car pitching down 20-30° while cornering 😆

@sebastianlara8483 Год назад

Another car with a great concept idea but stopped by money and limited development is the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo, built by Ben Bowlby too. Can you make a video about the story of this car?

@KingofClubsMCDLXXXVIII Год назад

adding that bar to the sponsor segment made me watch the entire thing, good job

@rhaimon2100 Год назад

I wish this thing worked well, I love seeing out of the box vehicles. Innovative vehicles that are such a change from the literal box are always interesting.

@yt.personal.identification Год назад

With electric power to the front wheels, for the curbs, and modern vectoring, this would now work very nicely.

@jeremythurman5261 Год назад

Chip Ganassi Racing has the original Delta Wing (the Indycar proposal) on display at the race shop in Indianapolis. Right next to some legendary winners.

@JohnCharb87 Год назад

Great video. If there was more development time their could of been more Deltawing racing. Dr. Panoz would good video topic. Especially the creation of the American Le mans Series which would later become IMSA's Sportscar Championship. Also the creation of the Petite Le Man 10hr race which is the season finale filled some epic night racing. Especially when the Prototypes have to maneuver around GT cars for position.

@lindseymckirdy1830 10 месяцев назад

I was there at Le Mans that year everyone loved it It’s shame it never finished the race , the design was breathtaking up close

@PedroSantos_83 Год назад

Amazing engineering experience. Great presentation as usual. 😎

@senseofthecommonman Год назад

Many years ago I read an article by a tyre engineer. He said the contact patch of a tyre was determined by 2 things. Tyre pressure and force pushing down on it, ie weight plus any downforce. So a wide tyre has no more rubber in contact with the road than a narrow tyre, the only difference between the 2 being the shape of the contact patch. Wide and narrow vs narrow and long. This would seem to also explain the front grip on this car as well as the reasons given. Has always made sense to me but it is rarely mentioned and driver 61 made no reference to it either, any knowledgeable people out there have any more info?

@marios449 Год назад

A very interesting car indeed! A small note though about the lateral load transfer across the front tyres: it actually !increases! due to the small front track width not the opposite as stated at the video. The formula is: lateral load transfer=(weight on the front axle*lateral acceleration*height of the center of mass)/(track width) Hence a small track width leads to increased load transfer. A large track width can offer "free grip" as you can work both tyres closer to their limits. The stiffness of the front and rear axles is an independent parameter and can be set however you want it. Needless to say this is a very interesting example of vehicle dynamics and car setup!

@dethak Год назад

Interesting car and I really don't know how it was any good. Disappointing video though, given the error you mentioned, as well as suggesting the shape was used for the same reasons as on aeroplanes designed for operation in supersonic flow regimes, where air behaves completely differently to subsonic flow. I still have no idea how it was any good.

@marios449 Год назад

@@dethak yes it was a bit funny hearing about a delta wing race car, given that it travels through subsonic, let alone practically incompressible flows 😂 I would argue its a draggy design, given all the vortices created, their lift/drag ratio shouldn't be impressive really. It was probably a compromise to materialise this unique design, rather than a feature!

@eekee6034 Год назад

The more I think about this formula, the less it makes sense. It makes perfect sense if front and rear track width are the same, and I think it might make sense if the front wheels are on a rigid axle, but neither of these things is true for the Delta Wing. It has a very wide rear track and stiff body, so I suggest the rear track be plugged into the formula. I think it would also make sense to multiply the result by the ratio of front/rear track widths.

@IrocZIV Год назад

I would be curious of how it braked. All the weight shifting to those narrow wheels mounted so close together had to feel weird.

@ThrowingItAway Год назад

Most of the braking was done by the rear tires for stability like a parachute. This allows the front tires to still steer in the corner entry because they aren't being used to brake.

@CarlosLins1 Год назад

At least in games, it is a very understeary car, maybe because of the small surface area in the front

@budokpantai Год назад

@@CarlosLins1 I believe people have this misconception about it's handling because they are lacking on a vital information about the car, including this channel. What most people don't know is that the car handling was actually heavily influenced by a very tricky rear suspension setup. I don't really know how to tell this in technical terms, but basically the car rear suspension setup help the car to rotate better mid corner as the weight of the car shifting from side to side. Chris Harris did a review video about this car years ago, and had the designer himself explained about this.

@lukemathews8942 Год назад

R.I.P Don Panoz. Legend. Been to every petit Lemans and met the genius multiple times was a great guy

@sdx3918 Год назад

Just looking at this car made me miss open roofed LMPs even though closed roofs are safer and made more sense aerodynamically.

@megimargareth4015 Год назад

sadly, its makes driver fatigue higher since welp youre exposed to outside element

@Troublingarcher7 Год назад

When it first was announced and raced at Daytona my friends and I were stoked for it and then just slowly watched it crumble apart throughout the year

@hallucinato2307 9 месяцев назад

Cars move on 2d surfaces. Planes move in 3d. The delta wing makes more sense in the air

@JenGM24 Год назад

Really loved this car, well done to the team, it was a good journey👏

@MikkoRantalainen Год назад

Delta wings are used in supersonic planes because it's needed to combat some issues with supersonic airflow. Having delta wing shape for anything that goes slower than the speed of sound is more like a marketing trick instead of required for aerodynamics.

@bazzakrak Год назад

I remember watching it run around Le Mans, I was so intrigued by it. Not being mechanical inclined ( yeah I don't have a drivers license ) I always like seeing things like this being tried. Bit sad it didnt go any further, would have been interesting to see what the end product would have been.

@benvisser91 Год назад

Great informative video, thanks!

@ChrisNett42 Год назад

Thank you for showing us Jeremy Clarkson roll a Reliant Robin!!! 🤣 One of my favorite episodes of Top Gear!!!

@bmc3663 Год назад

A few points of note. The car was actually pretty competitive in the ALMS and running at the front in the Daytona 24hrs for a time. It certainly had reliability problems early on. Also the engine in the Panoz Deltawing cars wasn’t exactly a Mazda with Elan Power designing and building the engines themselves around a billet block of their own design. The cylinder head was a Mazda casting though. The Elan engine made more power and torque and the gearbox suffered as a result. A switch to a new custom made EMCO unit eventually solved that issue. Aero wise the car was developed extensively in that period with a modified underbody, revised front end with a splitter and small wings at the back. The rear suspension design was also very different from the ‘Nissan’ car with a more conventional set up at the rear.

@caywo_ Год назад

-"Mom can I buy a Koegnisegg?" +"We already have a Koegnisegg at home" Koenigsegg at home: 4:05

@louir3199 Год назад

Loved the Deltawing sorry to see it not continuing.

@real.p.1 Год назад

A big disadvantage was its low weight, which made it really bounce off in case of contact with a "normal" heavier race car. Which is clearly visible in its Le Mans collision with the Porsche.

@enzomartins132 Год назад

I love these crazy projects. Wish we could have more expérimental car at LMseries

@SciFiSecrets Год назад

Ironic how they made it put on rearview mirrors, then got smashed into by another car that didn't see it in its rearview mirrors.

@rtz549 9 месяцев назад

The front tire and rear suspension is brilliant. I had to draw the rear suspension on paper to get my mind wrapped around it.

@richard_the_lion_farted Год назад

Only the FIA would come up with a race rule saying you can't beat a certain lap time.

@wiegraf9009 10 месяцев назад

FIA doesn't come up with the rules for Le Mans AFAIK

@KartiacKID 11 месяцев назад

Love to see a second go of this car with the torque vectoring issue fixed

@chonkusdonkus 10 месяцев назад

I would have loved to see more cars like this, maybe even electrical, a lot more innovation to be done in the field!

@andrealves2210 Год назад

It's pretty cool the effort to simplify the concepts

@kuksenko_karting Год назад

Congrats with 1kk subs!

@SC457A Год назад

I loved that car! I was rooting for it anytime I saw it on TV. I just like seeing something new and interesting I guess.

@greybuckleton 2 месяца назад

So fun fact. A Delta wing makes more drag for a given amount of lift than a straight wind. That's why airliners don't use them. Concord is actually a Ogival wing btw. That's really cool that the driver tried to fix the car enough to get to the pitts. A shame it didn't work.

@gummbyandpokey Год назад

It was such a cool piece of engineering. Not sure if we will ever see anything as wild again

@1PADRAIG Год назад

Detlawing use an aero concert began back in 1980-1981 Eagle Pespi Challenger. It use a idea BLAT effect or Boundary Layer Adhesion Technology.

@rotorblade9508 5 месяцев назад

looks like it could be made to work with some little changes like a sriking colour, a good working rear diff and electronics, higher vertical stabiliser (for increased visibility), a halo and later maybe some suspension research.

@Platypus_Warrior Год назад

I always wondered about a reversed delta. Mot of the drag in a car comes from the vacuum a the back. Trail braking might benefit from it too.

@Celciusify Год назад

The Nissan LMP1 car was basically a reversed idea on the delta wing. It had 70% of the weight on the front, with 90% of the braking being done by the front wheels. The reason as to why the car was built like that was since the front end of LMP1 cars was largely free from aerodynamic rules. And with so much braking on the front, they could capture a lot of energy from a single set of motors. Braking was that cars achillies heel, largely due to a non working hybrid system making the brakes overworked, and from the onboards, it seemed that they only braked in straight lines.

@DaFinkingOrk Год назад

Interestingly most of delta wings lift comes from a vortex they make on the top of the wing. And now F1 cars make a vortex underneath the floor using those fence things at the start of the tunnels under the floor (though I don't know how much of the suction it makes comes from the vortex vs the Venturi effect).

@tgiencke Год назад

The delta wing is for supersonic flight (Mach 1+) due to incompressibility of air at these speeds.

@DaFinkingOrk Год назад

It does work at any speed though, just it needs a high angle of attack at low speeds which makes a lot of drag. I mean, paper aeroplanes are delta wings and fly.

@tgiencke Год назад

@@DaFinkingOrk I am 10yr Air Force & 10yr Corporate jets & a pilot. Delta wings don’t work at slow speeds or high angle of attack. That is why aircraft of that era landed at high speeds and had drag parachutes to slow down.

@konekillerking Год назад

The car was not inspired by the Concord. The Delta concept goes back a lot longer then that. German aero research if I recall.

@MindCrime550 Год назад

I feel like the combination of torque vectoring and traction control have improved a lot since this car was built, i feel like this concept could go a lot further with further sensor/software developement. It's akin to a quad-copter drone with the wrong accelerometers.

@wiegraf9009 10 месяцев назад

Sounds like something that should be tested with RC cars

@terrylandess6072 Год назад

My first thoughts upon seeing the contact points between car and road was a farm tractor. Steering requires diligent use of the independent rear brakes. So sure - these high tech guys should be able to use sensors and braking 'programs' to make the inside rear wheel slow properly to the amount of wheel turn. Upon hearing the driver mention the wheel spinning in the curves it seems there needed to be more tweaking 'if' they were using a similar approach.

@misterjersey5460 Год назад

I remembered the deltawing from Gran Turismo 6. Never got the game but still.

@bobbysenterprises3220 Месяц назад

I cant imagine a any more appropriately goofy vehicle of the era than the juke to power this thing

@Wzrd8 Год назад

Intersting car. Saw it at Long Beach 8-9 years back. Thought it would lose hard but it did okay. The high speed advantage it held was sort of enough even on a city track, wasn't going to win but not get embarrased either. That is until it just caught fire for no reason.

@thedp6736 Год назад

My mates (back in the day) Bond Bug was race ready straight out of the box!

@arnoniem Год назад

Love this story! All so suprising.

@cbremer83 Год назад

I really loved this car when it came out. I really wish it would have lasted and been developed further.

@samcheeseboro6973 9 месяцев назад

This makes me immediately imagine a vehicle that uses this concept to both drive quickly and fly by flipping the driver/pilot. I'm busy, someone make it happen!

@alexislebienheureux1459 Год назад

A delta wing is perfect... For flying! Putting so many efforts, money, talent based on a stupid idea is just mind-blowing! And of course it's slower in corners... This is incredible...

@holeshothunter5544 Год назад

Delta wings are good at flying. Tricycle wheel mounting points are easy to flip over. Whatcha get? This.

@phenic5761 Год назад

Yes the engine in the Deltawing was based off the engine in RML's chevrolet cruze touring cars

@randellgribben9772 Год назад

you have a great channel here, thanks..i enjoy watching your videos

@JURacing Год назад

For me this is absolute genius and THE most fascinating project in motorsports for the last 2 decades. Such a shame the development had to stop.

@procatprocat9647 Год назад

Too many car people don't have a clue about fundamental Physics and Engineering concepts and approaches. They only understand the status quo. This is one example that exposes those sorts...

@spaceminions Год назад

If I was building that car, the torque vectoring would be 100% necessary in order to get proper cornering performance - I'd be driving the rear wheels to enforce the requested angle of turn. But yeah, very possibly too hard to keep the weight from coming off of the inside wheel badly enough to make the control system a nightmare to get working.

@jiminycricket9877 Год назад

I used to have good natured arguments with a friend of mine about the benefits of a reverse trike and the potential. He thought it just wouldn’t work. With the (relative) success of the delta wing I was able to win that one with a knowing nod and a wink. I’d still like to build one. Unfortunately it’s at the back of a long list of possible projects and I’m not getting any younger!!!!

@wiegraf9009 10 месяцев назад

It's not a trike though it has 4 wheels.

@jiminycricket9877 10 месяцев назад

@@wiegraf9009 it’s a four wheeled trike, if you can imagine such a thing. The front wheels are so close together it’s functionally the same as having just one. Three wheelers aren’t classed as “cars” so this was a way to get the benefits of a reverse trike but still have four wheels - be a racing car.

@T.R.R.Jolkien 10 месяцев назад

Don Garlitz was laughed at when he showed up in his dragster with the engine mounted behind him. He won that weekend. The next weekend, three more cars arrived with their engines mounted behind them. The next weekend, ten cars had their engines mounted behind them. Don’t be afraid to think outside the box.