If you live in the plains of the dairy belt, get the heaviest bike you can get, the winds, already strong, will turn into permanent hurricanes 😢. I see that coming when biking could become an untenable proposition.
Hey thanks for the introduction to this bike. Here in Canada we have a LOT of country to cover on a motorbike.( It takes 30 hours just to drive thru my province of Ontario) . Big cruisers are almost a necessity here if you're a pavement rider. Having said that I'm not sure if too many people here would trust a Chinese made bike especially in the Midwest just because of the lack of spare parts available. This bike isn't bad looking really, it reminds me of an Indian Scout, but I'd opt for a used Kawasaki Vulcan or a Yamaha V-star knowing that they're reliable enough to ride 5 days away from home.
Challenging weather, challenging bike but you put yourself through it for our viewing pleasure, you bring your videos to life with your enthusiasm and commentary and, by the way, your singing on Yorkgate. Andy
A very interesting motorcycle, and certainly very nice looking, and if I could still ride big cruiser bikes, I’d certainly consider a test day on it. Who knows, it might even become a popular option! Sadly my days of huge cruiser rides are over due to age and health, also I don’t do the mileage that it’s obviously designed for any more. I have found in recent times that an open mind when considering far east motorcycles is something that can reveal pleasant surprises rather than negative. Remember when people were anti-Japanese? Anyway, thanks for riding this and showing it off, I’m sure it was beneficial to a few prospective buyers.
I am a former cruiser rider and have owned 3 1100 cruisers in the past. I would be concerned about that exhaust touching down on right handers. I despise that rear end set up. If I was in the market for another cruiser, I am afraid that this wouldn't be on my list.
Let's see how it looks in 18 months time...I know Chinese bikes are coming on and lots of big name bikes are produced there but I'm still on the fence about quality control
Good Morning Dave , yet again another great review on this bike , i saw Dickie mint ride this bike & he was scraping the silencer on right handers, take care & ride safe
I can see that it belongs on the open roads of the US and not on the squiggles. It is a piece of art and well thought out. I'm your size and age and have never ridden a large cruiser. I can see that the priceing could appeal to the masses that can't afford the HD or Indians. I would rather have the Super Meteor for it's simplicity and light weight factor. The massive weight would be a plus on windy days., and track rain tires a plus if extreme rain days persist. Lol. 👍👍5🏍🙋♂️
I'm not into cruisers, but I actually like this! I guess the steering wasn't helped by the cold wet roads? An excellent review in awful conditions! I like the way you take your time to cover every aspect of the bike, very enjoyable and great viewing in a stunning part of our country, many thanks, Dennis.
Morning Dave, Iike yourself I’m not a lover of cruiser style bikes but it does look like it’s been bolted together nicely. The only other review of this bike was from ‘Tins on Tour’ channel and Shaun really rated it. Carry on that man Caio for now tat ta 👍🏻
morning Dave, did you know, that when it rains in the UK, the rain first comes out as snow then melts on the way down. And that is through out the year due to our temperate zone on the planet 😆
I went through a Harley phase for almost 20 years, owned 4 of them. Nothing inherently choppy with a belt drive, very smooth on the HDs. Not my cup of tea these days, and I much prefer my modern classics.
Looks or rather the lack of them ,it's more of a of a Indian/rocket 3 vibe than full fat harley. At the end of the day it's a want to be ,can't see me chopping my shovelhead in for one.
An interesting bike for sure, to my eye it looks really rather nice, but sounds a bit like a food mixer. Without wanting to upset the RE crowd, nothing that firm currently makes really appeals to me; but where we have an eastern manufacturer stepping into the bigger bike market perhaps others will follow. I think your comments (and other comments here) are right that this is going for the ‘big cruiser enthusiast’ market, but that such riders are more likely to spend their cash on an older bike from an established maker. Heck, I get the impression that the BMW R18 (which I like the look of) struggles to make headway with the American V-twin sector, so a Chinese firm has it’s work cut out…
On your recommendation I visited Appleyards in "sunny" Keighley yesterday and very impressed I was to , proper old school dealership, I saw the MBP C1002 sat outside the dealer, it's not my kind of bike however as I'd never seen one before I had a good look at it, first thing I noted is just how low the seat height was, way to low for me, on the positive side the build quality was excellent and as far as cruisers go it's not a bad looking machine .
That looks like is a real Pub car park crowd pleaser. However The "Who's it for" Question you raised sums it up nicely. Given the propensity for motorcyclist snobbery, the cruiser lovers would most likely not settle for the Harley or at a pinch Indian Chinese "Copy" they would probably rather spend the 10 grand on a decent used "Hog". I hope I'm wrong in a way because I would love to see one out in the wild this riding season.
Deffo not a Uk bike, well not north of Watford Gap anyway. Can you imagine trying to get it though some of the Yorkshire, Cumbrian or Scottish passes, it would have to have outriggers to avoid dropping. Good review Dave, your honest diplomacy does you proud.
I live in Slawit in Huddersfield and the roads you ride on always look really familiar. With regards to this bike, I can't honestly see them selling that many, as like you say, who is it aimed at. Personally I think it's really ugly, it's a relatively unknown brand and we know very little about its reliability in the long term or how available parts will be 5 to 10 years down the line. Apart from anything else, if you want a cruiser like a Harley, another Chinese motorcycle company; Shineray, have acquired the rights to build an exact copy of the original Sportster and from what I have seen online, it looks and sounds more or less exactly the same as the original HD bike. Maybe if you could put some straight thru pipes on this MBP C1002 V it might sound and ride more like what you expect from a cruiser but like the old saying goes: 'You can cover a turd in chocolate, but at the end of the day it's still a turd underneath'. And sadly mate, this bike is a big turd. Oh and one last point: it's called the 1002, yet it's only 997cc. What's the deal there. Be reet lad...................
Yes my friend. I too am sick to my back teeth of this weather - the rain is incessant with no real end in site. Being retired I thought I might have a ride tomorrow - but maybe more rain!!!🫣🥴☹️☹️ Too wet to even cut the grass. Come sunny sunshine - please come out to play. 🤞🤞🤞🤞 I appreciate the bike isn’t your cup of tea but as a cruiser it is not a big bike - not when you consider Triumph have a 2500cc, Harley and Indian go up to around 2000cc and so on. The price is very attractive - however the proof in the pudding is durability build wise and ability to have it serviced throughout its existence. Personally I like the looks though it wouldn’t be my choice of weapon to meander along the back lanes of Yorkshire and beyond - but hey - is a GS 1300 a better??
I saw that bike at the NEC last November and I did like the cruiser styling of it but not its weight and length. I agree with you, it’s not built for Yorkshire’s lanes. Style 👍 pricing 👍 but weight and handling 👎. Good review. Maybe your next review should be for a rowboat in that weather..🤣🤣🤣
Morning Dave. Not my thing but looks quite capable. Agree that us smaller channels can’t get press bikes, hence why a certain ex policeman from the Hull area, thinks we shouldn’t be believed when it comes to our opinions, even though we review and ride at the same time, giving the true emotions we feel at THAT moment in time. 😂
Have to agree with ya on the exhaust it does seems overly lol war like you'll never forget they're there...... should we call the pipes industrial? I do like the spine of it the tank and seat blending together.... thank you Dave...
Not my style of bike, but I think it'd be ok in North America and on the predominantly straight roads that we have here in Australia. The 5-year warranty is an interesting development, as, if sales are reasonable, it will force other manufacturers to increase their warranty; not before time, frankly.
I bought a VN1500 Suzuki about 15 years ago but although a nice looking bike i just couldn't get on with its feet forward and cruiser style and have never had another cruiser since. You tried hard to love it and I'm sure some will but its not for me.
With weights and dimensions in Goldwing territory, it would be a good marker for somebody who has neither bike to know your thoughts/score comparison please?
I had a 2013 Goldwing, rode it all over Europe but the insane weight was ALWAYS there waiting to bite you in the ass. I never dropped it but everyone else who rode it did. Finally despite being an excellent bike, I found it boring 😆 Edit, at 262kg, it's a lightweight! My Goldwing was 390kg and my current Harley Springer Classic still feels light at 320kg.
Love the look of the MBP. Unfortunately we're seeing none of these larger capacity chinese cruisers in Oz and the offerings from the japanese manufacturers are extremely limited and uninspiring. Triumph and Harley are too expensive nowadays BSA isn't available here so that just leaves Royal Enfield 😁
Good appraisal once again, Dave. You've covered all the basics, as far as I'm concerned, and anything you might have omitted can easily be sourced with a bit of effort by an interested party. Your pros certainly appear to outweigh the cons. You are correct though. This machine is for parched, arrow straight highways with cloudless blue skies, cactus strewn desert on either side and not really for roads that are soaking wet, littered with potholes and meander all over the place. However, having said that, there'll be those here in the UK who might find this machine of interest and if so, after suitable research, they should go for it if it still piques their desires. Who cares what the snobs think. Already, I can hear the high horse attitude of Harley and Indian owners sniggering and sneering at such a machine, though. Oh dear. Good one mate. 👍
I wonder if the Chinese designers might have been looking at the Ducati Diavel for inspiration. Albeit a 1,000cc version at a fraction of the US$27k pricetag. Wishful thinking?
People talking about climate change should investigate the history of the planet to discover how much climate has changed through the years, with or without humans on it. Not saying we dont have an impact, ofcourse we do. But none of the measures governments take are any real solution but just designed to fill their pockets. The only real solution is to no longer live in a consumption based society, to not longer strive for economic growth and to all go back to living simple lives in wooden huts and farming our own food. Are we willing to do that? no. Thats the end of the discussion for me.
Since we don’t all use coal nor coke (and I remember all the soot on the buildings) how can it be getting worse? Where are the pea souper smogs ? Yet no two strokes, and the remedy:-green diesel, and engines twice the size they used to be.
That size of lard arsed cruiser isn't for me ,too long and bulky, it is nicely styled though , the Chinese are getting good at stylish looking bikes, my missus has a Zontes GK125, and it's a cracking looking 125 , and the riders view is similar to this obviously with a slimmer tank 😆, As for the build quality I wouldn't have any worries, my wife's Zontes is ridden in all weather and it's holding up fine , it's even got stainless steel spokes on tubeless rims , and a full stainless exhaust, so I'd think the build quality on this cruiser should be fine especially as it's a lot more money. But yeah, as someone else has said the Enfield super meteor would be my choice for a cruiser, or the Shotgun for a more roadster style . Interesting bike and review though Dave , as for this bloody weather, well it's one of the reasons I ride my Classic 350 a lot more than my other bikes, the mudgaurds actually work and keep the bike very clean! and being the dark version I don't have any polishing to do ! 😅 Cheers Mel 🍻
I must admit I have some misgivings about Chinese motorcycles, but one thing I do like is that some of them actually have belt drive. The traditional manufacturers all seem to fear that Harley-Davidson or BMW will have them shot, if they ever try anything other than the usual, miserable chain drive. It would be great if the Chinese could convince them to offer more than just chains, chains and more chains.
Couldn't agree with you more on chain drive. Why is that even a thing on bikes being sold in 2024? If you're like me (or Freddie Dobbs) you have neither the time, inclination or personal off-street parking / garage space to contemplate maintaining that mess. Cheers
Morning Dave good review of this Chinese monstrosity yes it might look quite nice bike and price seems good with 5 yr warranty but very sceptical of Chinese quality I haven’t heard much really about Chinese but the price perhaps reflects that but I’ll stick to triumph I’ve had 2 triumphs and can’t fault them ride safe
Belt drive smoothes out snatchy drive trains especially with HD Sportsters, which used to eat chains and sprockets in the old days. The Chinese EVOLUTION Sportster can be serviced by any HD dealership or any independent shop . Parts supply is excellent and custom parts and engine hop up stuff out the wazoo. Big rear tires are out of fashion and very expensive and wear out the same as normal size tires.
The Metzeler Cruistecs that are factory fitted to the MBP are actually very premium quality cruiser tyres. I've actually gone from Michelin Commander III tyres to the Cruisetecs on a Harley Davidson and I'd never go back to the Commanders. The ride & handling of the Metzelers are so much better. But if you want mileage, the Commander III tyres are pretty long lasting.
Hi Dave, does it have ABS breaking system? What are service intervals? What accessories are available, I.e. luggage for touring etc? How many dealerships for servicing? You need to mention these touring items. Cheers. Biker John.
With the greatest of respect, why can't you obtain the desired data for yourself? If you were genuinely interested in 'a' bike, you'd test ride it yourself, wouldn't you,..... or would you get someone to do that for you? 🙄
@@lowersaxon Oh my! My comment obviously went straight in one ear and out the other, didn't it? Let me help you out: What has getting off your backside and doing something for yourself have anything to do with watching one of Dave's videos? Take your time. 🙄
@@haxan6663 I bought a 2010 triumph thunderbird 1600 a year ago. Still looks like new and not had a single issue with it (touch wood). Would probably get near enough what I paid for it if I sold it on now.
I must say I’d like to give a belt drive a go to see what they are like. However most are on cruisers which are not my thing. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything but let the video do the talking. You obviously weren’t happy but the weather did not help. Whether it will take off will be down to the Harley / Indian riders that may be tempted but they tend to be very brand loyal so I can’t see it doing very well. However each to their own and if you can’t afford the US brands it may just find some buyers. I think it’s a bit too big for the small country roads but may get some buyers from the Highway guys.Personally I think it’ll be as rare as hens teeth.
Beautiful bike! Id love to have that in my stable but it's absolutely laughable that any pom can think they can execute a good bike review with your ridiculous weather conditions🤣
I’m am shocked that this is the first belt drive motorcycle you’ve ridden. The heavy cruisers are not for everyone for sure. I wonder if this bike will sale?
That ridiculous fatboy rear tyre will make cornering a challenge. A more sensible width woud improve the handling the looks and might entice a few Harley sportster riders to upgrade. 😅😅😅
It looks to me like a maxi scooter that's been turned into a cruiser. I bought a Midnight Star 650 cruiser and I sold 341 miles later. Awful , I really don't know why anyone in the UK would want one.
I suppose it’s not a bad effort as far as cruiser bikes go, even though it’s a monstrosity just like the Harley’s. I don’t get that tacky bitza rear mudguard come reg plate holder botch up ,looks like some last minute scrap heap challenge bodge up . Another example of motorcycle manufacturers ,employing too many computer gamer nerds ,in their design departments . These type of bikes are for ,carrying humungous pie, burger & burrito munchers ,down long straight wide USA high ways ,not U.K. roads . To class this as a locomotive ,would be more nearer the mark . I won’t be opening my wallet for one of these anytime ever. 👍
Yep it is indeed... Qianjiang (who sold motorcycle with Keeway, QJmotor, Benelli and MBP Moto brands). Definatly passing on this one, not least because it has looks only a mother could love
Big name motorcycling manufacturers ,all source at least some components ,engines & even full motorcycles manufactured in Chinese factories . Companies such as Honda , Suzuki , Yamaha ,BMW , KTM & many others . The chances are the motorcycle you ride now ,if built in the last 20 years ,will possibly contain some components ,sourced from Chinese factory’s . The top Chinese motorcycle factories, have the latest tech & modern machinery to build to any standard of build quality & price point ,required by the customer, or these big name motorcycle company’s wouldn’t risk their reputations ,by using Chinese factory’s .
Looks like a Yamaha road star warrior, knock off and sounds like it's got a Yamaha bolt engine. Take note that this is what happens when you use third world communist countries to manufacturer cheap components so you can rip off your first world customers with high profit margins. The Chinese take all the old components they used to manufacturer for the first world and build cheaper, undercutting products and eventually put the competition out of business.
