Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter go to a restaurant to discuss things and end up with an overly cheerful waitress. Bojack Horseman cartoon belongs to it's respective owners
It's like really creepy how they eat other anthropomorphic animals and just make them mentally enfeebled to get rid of the "moral grey area" of eating people xD YOu'd think they'd have angry animal intersectionllists talking about the "problems of human privilege" but I guess because some of the characters are obligate carnivores like the cat people or the snake people they just accept it as an ok evil. Still creepy though
That's one of my favorite things about The show. So much goes on in the background sometimes that I have to rewind several times just to catch it and the actual story
Pickles is interesting to me. Part of what makes her so attractive to people is her bubbly, ditzy nature. Realistically, Pickles is extremely self-absorbed, and the cuteness is a cover for a lack of self-control and regard for others. But it's easy for people to forget that because she makes you do the same thing she does - ignore reality like Mr. PB does when he starts dating her. Pickles outright IGNORES Diane here, and it's not because she's forgetful. It's because she needs attention from an easy target like PB. She has nothing to gain from Diane, and Diane can't make a scene because then she would be the bad guy. I want to like Pickles. And I do feel bad that she gets cheated on. But she's really not as innocent as people perceive her.
I think that at this point, Pickles was already a bit jealous of Diane, thus why she chose to ignore her. Even if divorced, seeing how they still have dinner together (even if is the first time she sees them, but she's interested in PB). So naturally she ignores Diane, pretty much any woman would have this reaction. I don't think you can determine from here Pickles was self absorbed. But to me, Pickels started degrading in my eyes after she and PB made that deal of her sleeping with another guy to get back at him because of the cheating incident. And she started using that in her advantage, sleeping around with 32 guys and still claiming it wasn't even because she didn't had an emotional connection. Then also when he brings his friend and after she sleeps with him and then goes to tour, while PB was fine with it. I felt like she started manipulating him ever since the cheating incident, she was always guilting him about it and took advantage of it as much possible. And because she looks like a innocent dizzy girl, and PB was too permisisve, she went overboard with it. Definitely, I didn't liked her at all. She was very cunning and took advantage of PB right until the end. PB also made a mistake, but she used that to the max and made countless other mistakes. Let me tell you something, if a partner uses your mistake to manipulate you they are no better, and you shouldn't be together.
Now pickles can be a lovely girl, a sweet girl... But am I the only one who finds her utterly immature, annoying and sometimes careless about others, specifically Mr peanutbutter?
@BB Hoody What...? You misunderstood what I said. INTELLECTUALLY, it is important and not "just a number". People are whining about Pickles but she's young and dating a man twice her age - no shit there will be differences in terms of maturity. I just hate Pickles haters with shitty reasons. They also forget she's a fucking dog, like Mr.Pb, and both have similar personalities because of that . I honestly don't understand how they hate Pickles but love Mr.Pb. "Oh he has depth" - fuck, Pickles was a NEWLY introduced character. She'll get depth eventually but they gotta lay off for real.
Pickles embodies a Pug's personality as fully as Mr. Peanutbutter does a Lab's. Obviously someone at BJH is a keen observer of dog breeds' diverse natures.
Pickles is dressed just like Diane when she met mr. Peanutbutter who was just divorcing his 2nd wife. Watching PB flirt with pickles is really showing her that their first connection she use to remember as really nice and meaningful wasn't healthy at all. She was just like pickles. A naive 20 something year old who felled for the charm of a much older divorcing man but failed to see the red flags that were in the first interaction.
Not to mention how Mr PB met both Pickles and DIane while the two were working similar jobs! Like Pickles is a waitress while Diane worked as a Starbucks employee ( if I remember correctly ?? ). It's so interesting seeing the different character parallels the show includes.
There's something to be said about that. I knew, and was even involved with, guys that seemed to date girls that were always very young. Not like 16 but 18/19. It didn't seem strange at first because there were in their mid 20s. But the older they got it became more apparent. They would break up with their girlfriends, then date the 19 year olds again, until they were well into their 30s. I think this show exemplifies this in the fact that PB doesn't want to mature and instead wants a partner that is naive enough to put off reality for as long as needed until the girlfriend outgrows them and reminds them they're in s state of arrested development. Then the cycle begins anew. Sadly the older you get, the creepier it comes off. Do you want to be pushing 40 with a fresh out of high school girlfriend? It comes off as pathetic.
One of the reasons I could watch this show over and over again are the little scenes and stories that happen in the background. Notice the pig gets upset when the table next to them gets a pig head for dinner.
Ugh since her first scene I found Pickles so annoying but I feel bad for her because Mr. Peanut butter is cheating on her with Diane and leading her on.
I despise Pickles. Yeah, MPB cheated on her, but she's also the one who dragged his private life into the public eye, and aired all their dirty laundry on the internet for petty revenge. As far as I'm concerned, those two deserve each other.
@@Santoryu90 many people dislike her because of how ridiculous she is. at one point, she twerked on live tv that was supposed to be for families. pretty fucking disgusting that a grown woman twerks and says it’s family friendly. anyways, that’s only one of the things that people don’t like her for.
Also, there’s a weird scene where Diane is talking to Peanut Butter and at the back, there’s a dead pig’s head at the right where the couples eat and the other one is at the left where one pig is ordering something. Like you didn’t see that? Wow, that’s cruelty because now in this series they eat chickens, fish, beef, and pigs in this series. Okay if I was a rabbit for having a dinner, then I get the fuck out of this restaurant.
They had an episode where they showed off the "chicken farm" of the series, where its fully grown chickens who have been inbred to retardation and kept stupid so they can be farmed for meat products. It's likely something similar here with the pig. Its meant for black humor, but they could have gone around it by saying lab grown meat has been perfected and made mainstream.
Pickles' personality reminds me Mr Peanutbutter's earlier one, like they said in one episode, a happy out going person who sees everything positive and silver linnings in Dark clouds. However, that's my first impression. Not sure if it is true, but it would be interesting because Mr Peanutbutter is not that kind of "person" anymore.
I can kind of see that. I think he has his depressions but is still the upbeat Mr Peanutbutter. I would be very sad if he did become a nihilist though, because the reason I love him so much is because he’s a bright spot in a very dark world.
@@benfrank8649 Like in real life, people always change, even if it is just a little, but we cannot be the same as before because of our personal experiences with life and With our interpersonal relationships. Everyone can have an impact with everyone, either little or big. What I saw is that Diane had a big impact not only with Bojack, but also with Mr Peanutbutter, even though both handle their own issues in their own way and affected them in different ways. Mr Peanutbutter can still be the happy out going dog we Know, but in some way, his relationship with Diane changed something in him even though he wants to deny it, it made him more down to earth somehow or nihilist as someone mentioned above.
Wow Ace, I really appreciate your thoughtful answer. What I love about the show is as much as it’s a silly cartoon it also touches on very deep issues that most TV shows never come close to. I can see that Diane’s relationship with Mr. Peanutbutter has caused some mauration on his part. Perhaps he’s now facing the darkness of the world more directly. As for nihilism, I don’t think that’s accurate per se. I think it was season two Mr Peanutbutter said something like life is pointless and all you can do is fill it with nonsense until you die. Mr. Peanutbutter is Bojack’s shadow self and vice versa. The nihilism is always in him he has just buried it. Just like goodness is always in Bojack but for various reasons it’s also hidden deep within his psyche. I think for both characters (maybe less so for PB) they are at that pivotal place where they see the darkness and can either allow it to make them more honest with themselves and mature or just darker and more nihilistic. I think it’s a great opportunity though. Mr. Peanutbutter has always been happy, but I don’t believe true happiness is possible until one has looked deeply into the suffering and understands it and finds a way to be happy anyway. I think he’s finally at a point where he has to look at it. Who knows, maybe Pickles and his career will be useful distractions for him to continue avoiding it.
I just realized why I hate Mr Peanutbutter. His love is like a dog's. It's just so instant and he marries so quickly. But that's what he does to everyone. So it doesn't feel earned. I don't know. I've always been more of a cat person, anyway.
Character specifics aside, as a former pug owner, "I like everything" is so true. Pretty sure my boy would have loved that trough! Character specifics in place again, it's so weird seeing Pickles before everything. Poor, sweet, naïve kiddo!
Pickles is that kind of people that see so many positive things of everyone to avoid the Reality but at same time is annoying and inmature. Like a sunshine who can trust with but later you see their nihilist side and betray you. In other words, fake person. But hey, we need a sunshine in our lifes and is pleasant spend time with them to forget our negativity. Well played.
I feel like it’s hard for people to understand this character if they aren’t at all similar to this character. She’s young and immature and even though it’s “annoying” it doesn’t necessarily make them fake. I don’t ever understand how people who are naturally positive in life are seen as fake people, because anybody can also be negative and fake too. They aren’t living in some delusion. There is nothing wrong with them. They just haven’t went through really difficult situations in life yet, which is why she is immature. You can see this when she sleeps with so many people after PB cheats on her because it’s the first time she is approaching this situation and she ends up looking extremely selfish but what else do you expect from someone who has not grown up yet?
I used to laugh at the trough joke but now that I work in food service that’s literally what I do so I don’t have to pay for groceries and there’s less compost to chuck at the end of the night lol.
As someone who worked in a restaurant, most people don’t like overly cheerful waiters/waitresses and for some reason, the waiters don’t fucking understand that
People complain about her being immature when she's like to only 20 year old surrounded by people in their 40s and 50s like?!! Of course she is. I really see her as a victim in the situation. The power dynamic between her, PB and Dianne is definitely off.
Regardless, I'm glad that Mr. Peanutbutter and Diane are still friends even though they're divorced, most divorced couples can't even be in the same room together. Take it from someone with divorced parents who won't even text each other when I switch between their houses.
I really love how this part proves that the people being different species and arent metaphors(as i thought, since bojack is depressed and you know the "why the long face, mr horse?" expression), based on the horrified pig customers face looking at the couple eating that pig head at 0:34
Everyone that is trying to convince themselves that pickles is the villain of the show or even this season, please keep in mind that the main character for which the show is named literally almost fucked a teenager, and Mr peanut butter is very clearly flirting with her or preparing to flirt with her before his divorce is even over. This is like the third time he's done this and he's almost 50 years old... Not interested in arguing just reminding people to use their brains! :) Every time he started to notice trouble in his relationships that he caused, he starts accepting and encouraging attention from a younger (more naive) woman. Diane has every right to be upset here, not primarily because a young flighty woman is being young and flighty, because her 50 year old husband who is stalling on the divorce papers (coincidentally until he feels like he has a young crutch to lean on so his ego doesn't shatter) is actively encouraging it. In almost the exact same way that he was getting attention from her when he was still married to Jessica Biel. She even says out loud that if they get into a fight it's probably not going to actually be because of the waitress going to be because of their issues, and she mentions that she's upset with Mr peanut butter for entertaining it. At this point she's a pretty good communicator and she's saying exactly what's on her mind, nobody has to put words in her mouth.
Yes and no. Though you’re right that Mr. Peanutbutter is encouraging it Pickles could have turned him down. Instead she rushes to the table every time Diane mentions the divorce papers. I don’t think she’s the villain, there are worse characters in this show. But she made some poor judgments. And she would be 24-25 here. 25 is young but, not young enough to not think logically. But like another comment said it is possible for more than one person to be bad at the same time
I feel like this scene is a perfect representation of how fans of the show feel about Pickles. Some are annoyed by her antics and behavior (Diane) and the others think she's fun (Mr Peanutbutter)
Just noticed that at 1:26 there is a pig customer on the left looking uncomfortably at the couple eating the pig head on the right LOL. Also there's a corgi bartender at 1:41 licking a cup to clean it!
She just drew a little smiley face, oh my god, how is she so cute? If she was real she'd definitely be annoying but here she's literally too adorable for words.
If feel bad that Diane is pretty much an caricature of myself as I react/want to react like her in almost every situation. Especially when nerv wracking pugs in the service industry can't take my or order like the robot I want them to be.
Has anyone uploaded the scene where PB proposes to Pickles? I can't find it anywhere and I'd love to see PB dig himself deeper into his own well-deserved grave.
I don't understand how the comments are hating on Pickles, when she has the exact personality of PB. In fact I hate PB WAY more than I hate Pickles, he keeps up this whole happy-go-lucky attitude but we see him multiple times in the show break this, and act like an ass to both Diane and Pickles, and just generally obnoxious to Bojack. After finishing the show, I feel like Pickles has the LEAST issues in the relationship, she was led on and manipulated into thinking that this would all be fixed if she just slept with other men. I don't get why Pickles is so hated just for being cheery and airy, when PB is EXACTLY the same, but worse???
Pickles appeared first on season 2 or 3 where Bojack was going thru seriese of interviews about his Secretariat movie. She was one of many interviewers
