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Mega Moto 212cc Kit Build: Best Value Mini Bike Yet? 

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@jhaedtler
@jhaedtler Год назад
The only down side I had with mine is the foot pegs are too short and don't stick out far enough. I cut mine off and added the foot peg mod from Go Power Sports for their other mini bike. It moves them forward and I welded the original foot pegs on farther out! Much nicer for an old fart like me! I'm 70!
@MineZilla123
@MineZilla123 Год назад
That's awesome to see a older gentleman still out there and kicking it having fun on a mini bike! Keep on enjoying it just like us young folk 😁
@mikea4150
@mikea4150 2 месяца назад
I'm 62 and I just bought one, this things a blast!
@Noah-ws9qj
@Noah-ws9qj Год назад
I’m building a bicycle with a chainsaw engine for the next mini mayhem- kid on the bayou
@alexytgaming4543
@alexytgaming4543 Год назад
Yessir
@probablynotwearingpants6228
I have a razor pocket mod that I stripped down and a leaf blower 2 stroke that fits nice under the seat, just need to take a weekend and make it all work but then I think I may as well put a 212 on the footboard and some pegs on the front tire since I don't think the leaf blower engine will ever get me rolling well enough for mini mayhem
@gerardoduran7508
@gerardoduran7508 Год назад
how does that work . i dont think those engines have a lot of torque ( of course there is some exeptions there is some pretty big chainsaws out there).
@jimbagle.3939
@jimbagle.3939 Год назад
I did this with a 72cc concrete saw motor. You're going to need a jack shaft and really focus on gearing to make it work. Chainsaws don't make power until 7, 8, x1000 rpms. Food for thought. I got to 31 mph with an 18" rear wheel.
@glennlurman3514
@glennlurman3514 Год назад
@@jimbagle.3939 they make a freewheeling front crank set so can take drive straight to crank then you can use bikes gearing and be pedal able no jackshaft required
@MC-kd3yb
@MC-kd3yb Год назад
40 minute ad.
@foundcause898
@foundcause898 Год назад
Just ads no content now eh?
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras Год назад
The mega moto 212 is the king of cruising 😎
@ninjasuperman9538
@ninjasuperman9538 Год назад
when charles started the bike at 26:00 you can see a washer fall...
@cliffcorbitt9494
@cliffcorbitt9494 Год назад
i have a coleman CT200U-EX i got for 450 dollers brand new. tsc store wanted 999.00 for it but i got it cheaper because an idiot brought it back after taking it apart trying to do a modify youtube rigg on it hahaha. but ive welded all points to make it super strong and now its a logg dragger on my tree jobs. and what not. i think it has a 196cc engine. but the 2 shaft bearings that go from the engine to the jackshaft first go bad fast. sounds like sprocket teeth popping but isnt that. im sure yall dont even use the jackshaft in the center before the main wheel chain starts. but i do for my heavy pulls. im able to get 200+ pound loggs sliding fast enough for the clutch to not burn up and lock in just in time see. you have to understand slipping . thats all. ammount of rpms till it locks in see. everybody tried to tell me il burn it up. i laughed at them . and welp the bearings went first cause there chinese like the hole bike is basiclly these days. any way. love your videos and hope i can post my bike soon and show yall what ive built. im not done with it yet. its going to be a generator as well.
@NubsWithGuns
@NubsWithGuns 6 месяцев назад
@@cliffcorbitt9494And you have burned up many clutches or this is a story you made up over a bottle, sorry I own one of those and I just can't believe you that you don't go through at least 2 clutches a day doing that.
@austinback5435
@austinback5435 Год назад
I love you guys, but the sponsored gopowersports stuff has got to stop. This video is so bias because you guys benefit from selling these things. Its just not good content because it feels like and ad.
@evilredBoris
@evilredBoris Месяц назад
This is their channel and they can do whatever they want with it. Next time they want an unsolicited opinion, they can ask for you.
@calvinhobbs89
@calvinhobbs89 26 дней назад
The adds pay for the content. An allows these clowns to put on a show as u can see
@glasscitysocialclub
@glasscitysocialclub Год назад
I use a drum brake tool for those kickstand springs, works well most times.
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy Год назад
I took mine to work on a buds car.He had no idea what it was.It's a shame so many have no clue about drum brakes anymore.Granted that a foot long 'plier' looking tool with the needed ends did look odd,but I used 1 when I was 11.
@glasscitysocialclub
@glasscitysocialclub Год назад
I get strange looks from people when they see the tools in the drawer. Even had one ask if it was a metal meth pipe.
@davewarrender2056
@davewarrender2056 Год назад
Man when I did metal work at school In the 80''s , I wish my teachers had been like you. The way you explain is straight , you don't talk down to no one. You also give advise based on your experiences, keep it up
@socialxperiment3162
@socialxperiment3162 Год назад
Man that’s the issue I have with a lot of mechanics. They always think they know more than you
@maguslascivious4980
@maguslascivious4980 Год назад
the way teachers are supposed to be and unfortunately it's rare find.
@Thundercunt2
@Thundercunt2 22 дня назад
They don't talk down because they're not aloud. They would have to make a different channel because this one's "FaMiLy FrEiNdLy" because of youtubes shitty guidelines. FUCK YOU @RU-vid
@mzandmz1
@mzandmz1 Год назад
I use a “ left handed metric crescent wrench” all the time. Fits most common size fasteners.
@IosuamacaMhadaidh
@IosuamacaMhadaidh Год назад
John would do well to learn motorcycle fundamentals. Stuff like using the rear brake to help balancing on low speed turns, progressively braking on the front, counter steering and counter balancing etc. It will help him gain some more confidence and riding more enjoyable.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras Год назад
Yeah I lack confidence going fast on two wheels. Gotta practice
@gqp4800
@gqp4800 Год назад
Low and slow here. Old codger
@CatEye-Cowboy
@CatEye-Cowboy Год назад
My wife and I are pushing 60 years old and have been looking at all kinds of atv's from dirt bikes to side by sides for weekend getaways. Seeing this Mega Moto might just fit the bill.
@lukemeier1853
@lukemeier1853 Год назад
It's the tires that make it slide get some nobbies on it and it will be much faster and safer!
@wadetyler5056
@wadetyler5056 Год назад
I appreciate the construction of this bike, my MB200 I bought is an okay mini bike but lacks a lot of the features on this bike for only $200 more than what I paid!
@tinygaragepowersports0122
@tinygaragepowersports0122 Год назад
I owned one a few years ago. I really miss it. It was a stage one on the stock engine, which I felt was more than adequate. I'm sure it's leaps and bounds better with the Tillotson. I just recently sold my Coleman CT200U....it was a great bike, but the higher riding position and no suspension destroyed my back 2 weekends ago. The MM212 would not have hurt me like that. Sadly, the MM212 kit is out of my budget, so my kid and I found a neglected Suzuki QuadSport 250 stupid cheap, and we are restoring it and going through the engine together. No more shattered spines for this ol' boy! A tip about the MM212.....the stock V-tread tires are junk. Low traction, high wear. Kenda K290 Scorpions in either stock size, or 20x8-8 are supreme. Check out the reviews on them....they're long-wearing and work good on pavement too. The 20 inch tires will give you 2-3mph more top end, and even more of a nicer ride! Excellent and thorough video as always, boys!
@lennym1636
@lennym1636 Год назад
I would NEVER put my parents on that bike with those tires, we all know they suck and you can't really corner with them, and a big thumbs down on the video because it was nothing more then one long ad for GPS...
@1byte4
@1byte4 Год назад
You guys always put way too much air in big tire bikes, thats why they ride so rough, you can see the back jumping around like a basketball. 10psi max boys
@CMPLT_PLYZ
@CMPLT_PLYZ Год назад
I love how EVERY videos comments are 80% just us praising charles lol
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors Год назад
Very nice. I have a COLEMAN BT200X. I just did a x-border shop to Harbor Freight, and got a Predator 225 to drop in it. I've been grabbing some bits and pieces at your recommendations. DID 428 chain, 60 tooth rear sprocket, and a #30 torque converter for it. I live in an area that resembles the area where your previous Gambler videos were shot, but I live in Canada though. Other bikes in my stable include a 83 CT70, a 73 Z50, a 1975 Suzuki RV90. I have a few RV 125s I'm going to steal the front end off so I can get front brakes on my BT2OOX.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras Год назад
You’re gonna love the 225
@Just-InTimeRepairs
@Just-InTimeRepairs Год назад
I've been on a big C&C kick lately, so I'm definitely looking forward to this new video gentlemen.
@christiansmith6914
@christiansmith6914 Год назад
@ 1:07 I'm guessing, the price of a (decent) full sized car running and driving.
@buckykattguitar
@buckykattguitar Год назад
As a longtime factory certified BMW and Triumph tech...those lines on the swing arm are often....usually....not accurate. Best way to align the rear axle is by eyeballing or using a laser level on the chain and sprocket.
@craigbowley6783
@craigbowley6783 Год назад
I literally just watched someone put a ghost engine on one of those a few hours ago with a aluminum flywheel and a juggernaut with a new ignition module to get rid of the rev limiter! It was killer!. I'm actually surprised you guys aren't doing that! The channel was MJ tech.
@debeeriz
@debeeriz Год назад
looking at some of those welds does not fill me with confidence that this is a quality build
@austinback5435
@austinback5435 Год назад
Yeah the problem with this video is that it is full of bias. They are sponsored so why would they trash on it.
@wallacesaunders9884
@wallacesaunders9884 Год назад
China welds
@shakyhandpictures2185
@shakyhandpictures2185 Год назад
@@austinback5435 lol, if you’ve watched the channel you’d know they do offer their honest opinion, back to the couch bud!
@T34theAmericanheavy
@T34theAmericanheavy 8 месяцев назад
@@shakyhandpictures2185bro how can you not tell they are massive shills for gps. Im not blaming them, its their primary sponsor and they got to put food on the table but don’t act like they are being completely honest
@Dubsinsauce
@Dubsinsauce Год назад
This is awesome. It's the first thing so far that you guys have featured that has gotten me on their website since I don't own any go karts or mini bikes yet. I can't get one now but maybe next spring, this looks like a super fun project.
@forterierocks
@forterierocks Год назад
I wanna stuff a 340cc snowmobile engine on a mini bike!
@DaroffApFire
@DaroffApFire Год назад
I honestly don't know how gopowersports is making money on this kit. You get ALL of this for Just over $1k? That's one HELL of a value.
@briantruck2284
@briantruck2284 Год назад
Good hp Four wheelers are 6 time's the price
@T34theAmericanheavy
@T34theAmericanheavy 8 месяцев назад
Because it’s all rebranded Chinese crap, if you order factory direct it’s around $500
@CarolinaGuy
@CarolinaGuy Год назад
This may well be my favorite video from y'all. It was excellent!
@JoeBManco
@JoeBManco Год назад
The rope trick works for the kick stand spring, but so will the tools for drum brake springs. The one that is shaped like a spoon is the one to use.
@bakerrv
@bakerrv Год назад
You guys must not have watched GPS video, no tool needed to put the spring on.
@JoeBManco
@JoeBManco Год назад
@@bakerrv I have not watched it since I don't plan on owning this bike.
@somedudenamedjuno1301
@somedudenamedjuno1301 Год назад
Yall should build a mini bike from scratch with a rear swing arm!
@francispineault9045
@francispineault9045 Год назад
Hey guys, by seeing your ability to build bikes and gokarts, I think you should try to make yourselves a shift gokart but with an homemade clutch and gearbox. I think it could be great but everyone has their opinion on this idea. Anyway, awesome video on this mini bike I love it. 🤘
@johnmclean8643
@johnmclean8643 Год назад
When In trade school I learned small engine repair so I got 2 Briggs 3 hp engines made 1 good engine from all the parts got mini bike frame w/wheels for $10.Got a clutch and chain.The wheels were so small the sprocket hit the pavement in a turn 😂I love the sching sching sound of the clutch but the clutch ate my socks,ha ha.
@jakekelleycustoms
@jakekelleycustoms 5 месяцев назад
Coleman sells this bike through tsc 1000$. Hydraulic front and rear brakes series 30 torque converter. And full suspension front and rear.
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes Год назад
I have NEVER heard of Bullet-connectors referred to as "Torpedo"??? You were a mechanic for HOW LONG Ike? LOL guys have the Front Brake lever adjusted correctly, but the rear (Left Handlebar) is rotated around pointing at the sky ? makes it hard to get your hand on the lever???
@k-sell4065
@k-sell4065 Год назад
What are your thoughts on a torque converter and a jack shaft working together in unison for extended longevity and limited stress on the drive terrain configurations on the bikes I do understand that,that’s extra moving parts. But I have come up with a configuration that would eliminate that and the extra weight.
@jasongarnish
@jasongarnish Год назад
Radio shack in Canada is long gone but we have a store called Sayal and sometimes you will find something there labelled radio shack!
@williamhelms9942
@williamhelms9942 Год назад
@20:16, My cousins and their dad sound like folks living East of the Appalachians from Asheville, NC with the accent that they have. I'm from South of the Eastern Shore in Virginia, I've never had an ear for it and often I've had trouble with communicating with them and early on I've chosen to learn to speak "properly" so that no one has trouble with communicating with me. This may seem controversial, but the thing really about the Southern accent to my understanding of how things worked then from my History Requirement in college is from the plantation owner's kids learning to speak from slaves who worked in the house taking care of them as they were learning to read and write the language themselves at the same time.
@MRMechanicRC
@MRMechanicRC Год назад
Dude that’s a sweet kit for sure! I don’t have anymore space to put one, but it’s cool 🤣
@tymattera8929
@tymattera8929 Год назад
We need another big build possibly a 175mph turbod methanol drag cart long lengthy and stout🤷🏼‍♂️gotta keep it og but bring it up a knot it’s time.
@jamesdavid5997
@jamesdavid5997 Год назад
Basically a 40 minute commercial for the megamoto 212... Spending 2Gs on a mini bike your better of buying a small or used dirtbike
@francisroy4485
@francisroy4485 Год назад
I got the frame kit this summer and put a predator 224 on it for under $725.00
@jonstorey6414
@jonstorey6414 Год назад
The connectors you are using on the coil wiring is a bad idea. Them connectors are a pain in the backside. The amount of problems they cause they should be band. Especially if you intend using this mini bike off road. Soldering with heat shrink sleeving if you want a permanent connection is normally best.
@P8FPV
@P8FPV Год назад
Sweet minibike guys...Poor cross cart...bring it back 😉
@edmondpecotjr.8888
@edmondpecotjr.8888 Год назад
awww man I miss the intro where everyone says their name it's kind of the "Cars an Camaras" signature idk maybe I'm just a little too nostalgic or I live in the past a bit I don't know great videos though keep them up everybody around me watches the show peace blessings and love fellas
@JeremyBechtold
@JeremyBechtold Год назад
Longest commercial I've ever watched.
@frederikmoeller88
@frederikmoeller88 11 месяцев назад
Review or commercial. Either is fine, but if you try and mix you're taking a piss at your audience.
@lucassarchet6712
@lucassarchet6712 Год назад
I was surprised at how much I like those bikes. Putting better nobby tires on it makes a huge difference. Especially when you air the back down a bit.
@americanproductions1266
@americanproductions1266 Год назад
Entering the GoPowerSports 180 next year with my hard tail Mega Moto 80 with a 212 stage 2 on it
@dieterlange7581
@dieterlange7581 Год назад
RadioShack or obsolete around the world you guys are the only ones that still have them maybe a few other places but their history I've been around the world in my RV😂
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound Год назад
Really happy to see you guys all wearing your gear! Get some good Fox gloves now!
@jocrp6
@jocrp6 Год назад
Should pull that short bus out and jump over it! Speaking of short bus? Ya'll arn't driven around in that thing are you? lol
@Mattmazz77
@Mattmazz77 Год назад
How do you run the "factory" headlight if the charging coil doesn't come with it. Why do they include a headlight if you have to get the other part. They should either include it with the kit or sell the headlight with the coil separately...lol.
@elijahcortez965
@elijahcortez965 Год назад
Best channel, so stoked to watch them, brightens my day every time I get the notification
@Burton1973
@Burton1973 Год назад
I love you guys. But my free lawn mower could beat that. And all i did was buy 2 pulleys and a belt.
@johne5493
@johne5493 Год назад
What the heck happened to the box? Did the trucking company drag it to you instead of hauling it?
@lukemeier1853
@lukemeier1853 Год назад
I have a brand new 12 HP engine with electric start that I'm going to put on mine......
@williamickes3143
@williamickes3143 Год назад
You say that you came down the mountain with no front break. I'd've give a nickel to have been there to watch that! 👍👍🏍👀 you guys make me smile!
@Philc231
@Philc231 Год назад
Not a bad bike for a grand . Why not make it street legal and take a road trip to Ike’s property for some testing , Speedo,tach,brake lights . What happened to timing your runs ?
@wesleyammon8425
@wesleyammon8425 Год назад
You guys are a bad influence, in a good way, lol. A couple years ago I got the mb200-2 because of the move to the new property, and now I just ordered the mega moto 212 frame kit. Didn't get it with the Tillotson, already had a Ducar 212cc on the way. Keep up with the great content.
@thexpat
@thexpat Год назад
Are you guys going to come out with a swing arm kit like you did for the mega moto 80 for this one? This thing with full suspension would be insane.
@tiffnsniff
@tiffnsniff Год назад
I've never seen a mini bike advertised so hard before.
@Possumliving
@Possumliving Год назад
I have one of those, and put a Predator 224 on it. Stage 1 and PVL flywheel. I also have a Mod 2 cam but haven't installed it yet. It's running great already.
@peterherrington3300
@peterherrington3300 Год назад
You recommend the bike then ? Just wondered cos you didn't try to sell it . At all . . .
@MountainEagle77
@MountainEagle77 Месяц назад
What was the top speed?
@IosuamacaMhadaidh
@IosuamacaMhadaidh Год назад
Wow, mini bikes have really come along with their looks.
@WyFoster
@WyFoster Год назад
I have two of these bikes, they are beyond awesome.
@garys6089
@garys6089 Год назад
I just looked and the price is 1,450 and since I'm in Canada it be over 2,000 for me and when you guy's change your belts on them torque converters just turn the secondary backwards to open it up and move the belt down in to it makes changing them belts so much easier same deal as a snow mobile but it looks like a great mini bike for sure and great video like always
@klappxed9206
@klappxed9206 Год назад
I have one question do you have to put the torque converter on or can you put a regular clutch on it
@CyclingNeko
@CyclingNeko Год назад
I think torque converter is simpler mechanism since it work as a clutch and gearing ratio. If you put some sort of regular clutch, the parts are no longer be a simple as torque converter. With clutch only, the only thing that make your bike getting slower or faster now is your clutch, besides the engine RPM. Also, it will destroy the clutch pad quicker without some kind of gearing system.
@TheEZGZ
@TheEZGZ Год назад
If you get a chance, would you mind posting the weight of that bike ready to ride? Also would like to see it in the back of a standard bed pickup truck. I'm considering getting 2 of them if they fit in a truck with the tailgate closed. Thanks
@THEMOWERMEDIC1
@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Год назад
➡️Awesome machine! I’m an hours drive From GPS! Putting my order in super soon! Thanks for this video and discount✅
@johnweeks5614
@johnweeks5614 Год назад
To me your videos are so much better when you are building your own creations not something anyone can buy and put together
@Atomotechnologies
@Atomotechnologies Год назад
Have you ever thought building a shopping cart go kart? I’ve seen a few but might be interesting to see your design 🤔
@davesplace1307
@davesplace1307 Год назад
Need to see more 2stroke 3 wheeler content please John!!!!!
@pollyg562
@pollyg562 Год назад
bike from the front looks like the "The Great Escape" bike you always see in posters with Steve McQueen sitting on
@kurtisreynolds565
@kurtisreynolds565 Год назад
the second time Charles pulled the pull cord. looks like a washer and a small pin fell to the ground. im sure it already in the comments but i dint go through them all. love watching you guys keep it up.
@domiracles9050
@domiracles9050 Год назад
killing me with the hour long ads... cannot watch any longer...
@kasuraga
@kasuraga Год назад
god damn 1100 for the whole bike isn't half bad tbh.
@GoKartsorGoneFishin
@GoKartsorGoneFishin Год назад
I'd tell you a turd with a 350 was a good ride if it was given to me
@neonnerd1364
@neonnerd1364 Год назад
I'm digging these longer videos.
@TheWoodruffnavy
@TheWoodruffnavy Год назад
Would a predator 670cc fit that frame?
@eastsliders_drift_trikes_nz
The adjustable crescents we get in New Zealand are metric and imperial! Saves a lot of time and less spanners
@kurtisreynolds565
@kurtisreynolds565 Год назад
do you have them in left handed aswell?
@eastsliders_drift_trikes_nz
@Kurtis Reynolds yes we do! I also have a matching set of left hand screwdrivers
@Toby9103
@Toby9103 Год назад
26:11 where did that washer come from? haha:P great build as always guys! :D
@Skiridr22
@Skiridr22 Год назад
She’s looking good 😎👍🏾👍🏾
@kyliesnyder5945
@kyliesnyder5945 Год назад
Okay guys I'm impatient how much longer are you guys going to make us wait for the mini mayham video? Sincerely, boat cart guys wife
@JoshPTV
@JoshPTV Год назад
My son bought a mega Moto 212 a month ago. We bolted a stock Ghost Engine on it and broke the motor mount(engine plate)welds in less than 2 weeks. It's at the welder right now getting reinforced because most of the welds didn't have penetration. So I'm not sure about how well built these things are. My suggestion is to have it looked over by a welder before you even start putting it together. I can't blame go Powersports for how it arrived to the house but let's just say it went through hell and we had a lot of touch-ups before we even got started.
@larryalexander4833
@larryalexander4833 Год назад
Another advertisement for power sports to high priced!
@louisbeaver87
@louisbeaver87 Год назад
Why didn't you use a break tool to put the spring on?
@ericroy1483
@ericroy1483 Год назад
you can get a good used dirtbike for the same price !
@justindelorean3994
@justindelorean3994 Год назад
You guys need to get a full size dirt bike like a 250 two stroke or 450 four stroke. I'd like to see how they would compare against the high performance mini bikes around the grand prix
@AyGrom
@AyGrom Год назад
Those dirt bikes would absolutely destroy any mini bike around any track.
@justindelorean3994
@justindelorean3994 Год назад
@@AyGrom It's a pretty technical track. Dirt bikes are a lot harder to manage around tighter tracks. I think it would be a good competition. And it would show them what a bike with real power is like.
@landonpope7522
@landonpope7522 Год назад
I have one with a lifan hp212e it's a monster.
@jgsn5029
@jgsn5029 Год назад
When are we going to see yall review the swing arm kit?
@slamboy66
@slamboy66 Год назад
Still don't understand why they put tractor tires on them.
@tobydyes
@tobydyes Год назад
You can get things just as good for half the price
@TheVoice010
@TheVoice010 Год назад
On this Episode of Cars and Camera Choppers….😂❤
@craigbowley6783
@craigbowley6783 Год назад
It looks like the build quality is alot better too. Is it?
@GC_420
@GC_420 Год назад
Thin axles..other than that i like the chunky bike.
@sirtonydelgado4136
@sirtonydelgado4136 Год назад
I got one. So much fun with the stage one Tillotson engine.a lot of torque with a juggernaut it goes anywhere. It is powerful and fast.
@JsunnN-hx1ri
@JsunnN-hx1ri Год назад
Firstly GR8 channel,funtastic content with awesome team...I have 2 of these bikes they are well built for the money,in Canada local store carries near identical version of mega 212 with no motor or front disk brakes,GPS to rescue.Learning so much from you guys,cheers!
@jayracz701
@jayracz701 Год назад
I got a compete frame from princess auto with chain drive for 150 bucks. Coleman DB 200 clone. No front brake no jack shaft no engine. Was a return on clearance. It was missing a seat and the chain guard. I got two seats from go power sports. It was a good deal. But the shipping and boarder fees made it cost almost as much as the frame. Lol. I got a electric start 212 engine a few months later at princess auto too for 150 bucks. Gotta get it all together in a few days. Summer fast approaching. Going to rip up the logging roads. Thinking about getting the front brake kit from go power sports. Just wish they had a better shipping option for over the border…….
@kevinolson5112
@kevinolson5112 Год назад
You should put a led light and battery on it.
@bigbee6897
@bigbee6897 Год назад
How about a build for an old fat guy to ride? Lol
@markmoats5702
@markmoats5702 Год назад
So could the heat sleeve be called a sizzle sleeve lol
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