Meme or Monster? - Analyzing the Falcon Punch

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This episode of The Signature Move Tier List dives into the iconic Super Smash Bros attack, the Falcon Punch. First appearing in Smash 64, it's gone on to appear in every subsequent title, from the gentle downgrade of Melee to the introduction of a turnaround mechanic in Brawl, the massive power reduction in Smash 4, and finally, something of a redemption in Smash Ultimate. It's a very popular move in the Smash series, but does that popularity translate to a high placement on a tier list? Let's find out!
Footage used in the "Style" section was obtained from twitch.tv/PrestonGuild
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"Mute City" - Super Smash Bros. Brawl OST (Original from F-Zero OST)
"MockRock is Here" - MockRock
"Funky Chunk" - Kevin MacLeod
"Big Blue" - Super Smash Bros. Melee OST (Original from F-Zero OST)
"White Land" - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate OST (Original from F-Zero OST)
"Dream Chaser" - Super Smash Bros. Brawl OST (Original from F-Zero X OST)
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@Ivy64_ 3 года назад

Falcon punch is basically just "It's not about winning. It's about sending a message." I love that aspect of it, no matter how terrible it is as an option.

@papersonic9941 3 года назад

Exceot in 64, where it's legit good

@regalblade8171 3 года назад

@Pluff Man emotional damage doesn't show up in the scoreboard

@ItSquishy 3 года назад

@@regalblade8171 but it will be engraved into your record

@regalblade8171 3 года назад

@@ItSquishy right

@k.w.6626 3 года назад

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, ITS ABOUT SENDING A MESSAGE *burning money pyramid noises*

@YoyIeCake 3 года назад

Style section: -Just shows a clip -Gives it a 5 -Refuses to elaborate What a chad

@leebelcher9473 3 года назад

It really added to the video tbh. After seeing a Falcon combo into a Falcon Punch, you need nothing more

@sab_by9474 3 года назад

gotta love it

@Paulunatr 3 года назад

A relatively mediocre-looking Falcon Punch clip as well. Not a knock against the clip at all- the move is just THAT hype

@hellofreeze3772 3 года назад

Yoyle Cake

@parchmentengineer8169 3 года назад

Do you need an explanation?

@CarelessFoolFallsFlat 3 года назад

Captain Falcon might not punch with the speed of a rocket, but boy, can he punch with the force of one.

@chromaz4299 3 года назад

Can you imagine the amount of mass that is involved in that punch?

@wowo-wo6st 3 года назад

Yeah his arm would have to weigh several tons

@chromaz4299 3 года назад

@@wowo-wo6st true.

@evann5900 3 года назад

@@wowo-wo6st or he could just like punch fast idk

@dimitridionissiou1000 Год назад

I mean technically the only slow thing is wind up, so he actually punches (the active thrust of the fist) with the force of 4 kilograms of TNT.

@TheGamersState 3 года назад

This may be a weird take but for me; The fact that the Falcon Punch is such a bad move actually helps it to a degree because it makes those moments when it does get pulled off all the more hype filled. If it was buffed and made to be really good for competitive, I feel the charm of the move would be lost.

@Galaxia_EX 3 года назад

I _kind of_ agree. Yes, it would lose some hype if it was buffed, but I also think it should have more knockback. If you can actually land the move, it should kill pretty early.

@artlover9261 3 года назад

@@Galaxia_EX i'm thinking more of a smash 64 thing. Imagine landing a combo and finishing it with an air falcon punch, it would be overkill as fuck BUT THINK IN DA HYPE

@haydencapitumino1675 2 года назад

I totally agree. It being bad is one of the main reasons why people are so fixated on it. There's almost this feeling of, "they can't hit the falcon punch," and that makes it golden when they hit it.

@Xibalba_FGC 2 года назад

I feel like the people who think Falcon is lame never REALLY understand why he’s hype, It’s not entirely because his combos are good but because Falcon has never and will never be THE BEST, but he will always have so much potential to succeed. Falcon is so Hype because he’s always a step below the best characters, so it’s so much easier to root for him and so much more satisfying to see him land his combos to knee or better yet, combos to falcon punch reads.

@chasethemaster3440 2 года назад

@@Xibalba_FGC facts

@Mikman360 3 года назад

I bet this one took so long to come out because MockRock had to find 10 minutes of clips where Falcon Punch actually landed.

@marioalbertomoreno3819 3 года назад

wouldn´t be surprising

@imericle8094 3 года назад

Im the 20th like for this comment

@marioalbertomoreno3819 3 года назад

@@imericle8094 that´s kind of sus xD

@imericle8094 3 года назад

@@marioalbertomoreno3819 no im not lieing bruh

@user-fh9mf2hk6j 3 года назад

@@imericle8094 Hey not many people care ngl

@justinnzamora5366 3 года назад

You know the trope, awesome but impractical? The Falcon Punch epitomizes it. I knew that this move wouldn't get any middle ground points. Thank you again for your superb content, Mockrock!

@icewizarxd9933 3 года назад

still one of the most iconic and hype killmove of all time though

@jackking1900 3 года назад

You, Arlo, Summoning Salt, and KingK are the few RU-vidrs who I’ll drop anything for.

@ABAgamer_ 3 года назад

“Honey, wake up. The MockRock intro is on!”

@flamingpaper7751 3 года назад

Same but also EthosLab

@jfk5923 3 года назад

But that king k dkc2 review? Bangerrrrr

@SmokePudding 3 года назад

Incredibly based lineup

@SmokePudding 3 года назад

@@jfk5923 thanks for posting this, cause I didn't even get a sub notification for that video :/

@Luigiofthegods 3 года назад

Petition to give Falcon Punch the power and armor of Warlock Punch, and turn Warlock Punch itself a chargeable attack that also spawns the golden tennis ball

@Endershock1678 3 года назад

I'm in.

@draegore 2 года назад

That only link can hit with his sword?

@Endershock1678 2 года назад

@@orangeslash1667 Yeah, because that's totally applicable. Rosa is definitely the character I run into the most.

@Endershock1678 2 года назад

@@orangeslash1667 I'm aware, I enjoy Kamen Rider as much as the next guy (though I'm more of a gridman guy myself), but I don't see what that has to do with my comment.

@adumbchicken8022 Год назад

@@orangeslash1667 wtf is this conversation

@jackrabbitAZ 3 года назад

Hearing MockRock talk about male pattern baldness in a deep voice while online Samus is loosing braincells in the background is never something I knew I wanted but here we are.

@llmkursk8254 3 года назад

I feel as if it deserves a 5.5 in style. It is ubiquitous in Smash Bros and to the character.

@iverjosjq8540 3 года назад

Ngl, I swear to fucking god I kept hearing MockRock say "Fucking punch"

@CloudyIsle07 3 года назад

Can’t unhear it now

@stylishgaby 3 года назад

Incredible video, the choice not to comment anything on style and let the clip speak for itself was excellent

@artlover9261 3 года назад

Yo the falcon punch it's like your name

@kailastnam9793 3 года назад

OMG is that a new into?!? I love it!

@Moss_Dude 3 года назад

He had this in the 4 hour video on April 1st lol

@brodygray744 3 года назад

@@Moss_Dude so you're agreeing with him? If its only been in one recent video then it is indeed new

@Moss_Dude 3 года назад

@@brodygray744 I literally just told him the first video it was used on. That has nothing to do with disputing or confirming if it's new.

@snoc420 3 года назад

Since the Blue Blur's anniversary is this year maybe Sonic's Spindash for an episode of the Signature Move Tier List???

@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 3 года назад

Prolly S tier seeing how it’s almost impossible to punish for how safe it is(Ik snake can punish it with grenades but idk anyone else)and fun fact found out on RU-vid if u parry spin dash sonic gets PLUSES on shield pretty sure like 8 so gl hitting that

@fattymuffin2182 3 года назад

power 5 utility 5 synergy 5 style 2 design 2

@infernojj1454 3 года назад

Lovin the new intro it’s sick

@kimurain6956 2 года назад

I love the animation of it, the small quirks, Captain Falcon looking away from the falcon explosion it creates, and shielding his face from it when you turn it around. I think it being competitively unviable makes it an even greater move, because when you hit that perfect read, and the game slows down, zooms in on it, that's true hype right there

@MrMockRock 3 года назад

Head to keeps.com/mockrock to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment. Thanks for watching everyone! Amazing how simple a 10 minute video feels to make off the back of a 4.5 hour retrospective. Let me know how you'd rank the Falcon Punch, as well as any signature moves you think would make good candidates for future voting pools! As mentioned in this video, the full tier list will be available to view on my Twitter account after each episode, with a one day buffer to avoid spoiling people who'd rather not be spoiled. Footage used in the "Style" section was obtained from twitch.tv/PrestonGuild -Twitter: twitter.com/MrMockRock -Twitch: www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch -Patreon: www.patreon.com/mockrock -Teespring: teespring.com/stores/mockrock

@jakedematteo2172 3 года назад

“12 minutes ago”...

@user-mr2cx8yd7v 3 года назад

@@jakedematteo2172 yeah i saw that is weird

@Empy_C. 3 года назад

holy shit i completely forgot what the new intro feels like 🔥

@bestplayerofalltime105 3 года назад

I think I have a suggestion for this serious. How about samuses charge shot?

@Me-re2jd 3 года назад

Hehe “head to” like hair

@ameenrichardselkhalifa8221 3 года назад

Whats up mockrock, I love your content

@jamesgosling8491 3 года назад

@MrMockRock 3 года назад

Thank you!

@ledja0683 3 года назад

i have now lived to see 3 mockrock intros

@Syzyguy 3 года назад

The Link signature move tier list video will be 4 and a half hours long

@ricknaturalls2065 3 года назад

Oh look it already exists.

@HylianKirbo 3 года назад

*You mean the Hylian shield?*

@ivrydice0954 3 года назад

You should go watch it :)

@faithssb 3 года назад

I’d love to see Warlock Punch added to the tier list since it has a lot of the same things that make Falcon Punch so loved, and although it’s even slower, it is even stronger and has super armor on the ground, which gives it a bit more use and utility, especially against mashy opponents or committal moves such as Jigglypuff’s Rollout and Charizard’s Flare Blitz. It can even cover and armor through some recovery options if read and timed well, such as Chrom’s and Ike’s up b and Ike’s, Wolf’s, and Fox’s side b above ledge

@partystar91 3 года назад

Fahlcon punch I can’t get enough of that pronunciation my guy lmao Also great vid, love your stuff

@im_skrunkly 2 года назад

I love how well made your videos are, the tier list reveal especially was beautiful.

@Akyure 3 года назад

If you had a Signature Move, what would the name be?

@regalblade8171 3 года назад

depression

@Endershock1678 3 года назад

Awkward Silence. Not because it's my strongest move, but because of the utility in my kit. I can true combo into it from moves like bad joke, not knowing what to say, and if I'm feeling more advanced, I can do the three move combo of reading the atmosphere wrong into saying messed up joke, into awkward silence.

@HylianKirbo 3 года назад

@@regalblade8171 A-are you okay

@DeronHargrove 3 года назад

Overworking Oscillation

@Jollysnapshot 3 года назад

I love the new intro!! It caught me off guard at first but it’s stylish!

@keysmash_roa 3 года назад

I'd absolutely love one on peach's float!

@justinnzamora5366 3 года назад

As a Peach main, that would be a huge treat for me.

@115zombies935 3 года назад

In Smash 64, and even in Melee it was possible to true combo into falcon punch. It is much harder to do so in melee of course.

@alessandrolasaine7442 3 года назад

I would suggest adding a new category based on how fun the move is, video games are literally made to have fun so i think it would be a good idea.

@ivrydice0954 2 года назад

You do know he's somewhat trying to leave his own opinions out.

@splubber99 3 года назад

Loved the video. Your writing is stellar. Arguments so well formed, and every sentence makes perfect sense. And the format you've created gives this series so much room to grow. Genius. Love it.

@gauthierruberti8065 3 года назад

Man I haven't finished the Zelda BOTW analysis yet and you still post stuff!

@DrEcho 3 года назад

Can relate

@DeronHargrove 3 года назад

Same, same

@brutalbjorn7524 3 года назад

this is actually a more genuine look at the whole picture than I expected, especially with your scoring system, but you managed to pull it off, keep it up with the great content!

@link1864 3 года назад

I appreciate the Wario's shake dimension gameplay on the buttom left at the very beginning. Such a beautiful game

@greatdaein6699 3 года назад

I know it’s not really his “signature” anymore because of chrom but Ike’s aether would be cool to look at, or samus’ charge shot

@Skymen75019 3 года назад

Quick note: As far as I remember, falcon punch in melee can grant you a bit of upwards momentum if you keep the stick up while doing it. This is useful when using it to edge guard opponent, but still want to make it back to ledge. It's not as big of a boost as in 64, it's more like puff side b angled up, it helps. As far as I know, this was removed from sm4sh onward, and I don't know for brawl. Also, you could B reverse falcon punch in melee too, but wavebounce did not exist back then, so it's only ever useful to change falcon punch direction mid air (as if RAR'd) without turning around first (if you don't do it frame perfectly, I think it removes your momentum), since RAR doesn't exist in melee either.

@actisclass 3 года назад

Even though it's so impractical... we've all gone for just throwing it out whenever we find a chance. Such an iconic move! (and amazing editing as well, man!)

@martinlvm 3 года назад

I always found funny that the concept of Capital Falcon in Smash is something like if in a fighting game with real people, you have a fighter that is Michael Schumacher and later, you add a modified clone of it and is Joseph Staling.

@HaxMastr 3 года назад

love the new intro for your logo mock. you nailed it this time

@draegore 2 года назад

Is it ever your best option? Probably not, but landing that read with this move is awesome.

@marcmcfatter3045 3 года назад

Great video as always, I know it's outside of the criteria for this tier list but I think there's something to be said about the personal aspect of the move: I'd argue the mental damage of the move is unparalleled and can give a substantial advantage from a single *hard* read. My favorite thing about fighting games is how it's a personal activity where your opponents emotions/mental state can create game plans and strategies, and again it's not (really) relevant to this list, but it makes the Falcon Punch one of my favorite moves even more so than the reasons you've listed. Looking forward to the next one!

@dorkfish4123 3 года назад

Amazing video and loving the new intro!

@dabeastle7116 3 года назад

That’s it I’m getting keeps that was the best intro using the funniest link thing that works against online samus. I use this because it’s funny and also shames opponents for camping. I suggest fellow link players and hero mains to use this.

@pizzaeater8905 3 года назад

How about Ken's shoryuken or Terry's super special moves for a video?

@smallsoul2374 3 года назад

YES, please!

@fattymuffin2182 3 года назад

shoryuken power 4 utility 3 synergy 5 style 5 design 3

@niklaspfafenrot9111 3 года назад

@@fattymuffin2182 have you ever played street fighter?

@ivrydice0954 2 года назад

Ken's ?

@certainpeople159 3 года назад

I always love your videos. The editing is so great, it's insane that you're not a bigger channel.

@cheeseoffthevine6292 2 года назад

Actually, in ultimate, falcon has a 1 frame window to b reverse falcon punch. It's pretty neat since when he reverses falcon punch it shifts his aerial momentum. So if you were to do a jump from fron ledge, b reverse falcon punch, reverse falcon punch you would reach about center stage

@oceanviolets1306 3 года назад

Honestly if it wasn't slow, if it wasn't impractical, it wouldn't be stylish. It requires HARD reads on an opponent to land, it's so easily punished, it's cumbersome to use, but that's WHY it's so stylish. The fire falcon explosion is cool as hell, but the rarity of being able to land the hit, of seeing it wind up and the building tension of whether it will land or not, watching as the victim is drifting into it and seeing that moment just before the train hit, then the tension release of them EXPLODING off the side? Genuine artistry. I think (other than the areal recovery thing from smash64) that making the move easier to use via speed or even adding b-reversals would diminish that effect. It would make it more common, easier to land, less impactful. It being so bad is why landing it for the win is so good.

@BLamb 3 года назад

I don’t know how this channel doesn’t have at least 100K subscribers by now. The production quality and editing is top notch.

@doom3926 3 года назад

The Falcon Punch is a reminder that at the end of the day, Smash and in general any fighting game is built to be fun to play just like any other video game and not the serious competitive experience that a lot of people want the devs to turn it into, which is important to remember.

@keksidy 3 года назад

Next poll could maybe include a move outside of Smash (though the character who uses it isn't unlikely to join). The Shouts from the Elder Scrolls series could be an interesting topic

@cosmicgo1d96 3 года назад

Wouldn't it be so cool if when a falcon punch connects, you hear a raptor cry?

@artlover9261 3 года назад

why THE FUCK you aren't in the smash design team?

@armorbearer9702 2 года назад

I have my own ideas on how to improve the falcon punch. When Captain Falcon is in the air, he slows down a bit and throws out the falcon punch which can be angled. The Falcon Punch becomes the Ultimate spike(2:08) or aerial combo ender. Alternatively, the Falcon Punch can be the ultimate shield and armor breaker. If someone land the falcon punch, the opponent shield gets destroyed. King K. Rool's belly armor would break as well.

@JacobSC_ 3 года назад

After the Big Moves video I expected this video to be a massacre, and while that was the case at the start I was pretty surprised at the end. Always good to see a new MockRock video :D

@kobotics227 3 года назад

That new intro looks so cool... i literally rewinded like 10 times just to see it

@fancey3870 Год назад

It actually keeps the extra utility as a recovery move in melee not only is it falcon's only way to turn around in the air but it keeps the ability to give you a little bit extra height perfect for recovering from moves that knock you off stage with your back turned so you can't falcon kick. It's also his strongest rest punish even stronger than a fully charged fsmash if you land the aerial version.

@isaacsmith6964 3 года назад

gotta say the new intro kinda slaps

@worldsshittiestboxer 3 года назад

YO! LOOOVE THE NEW INTRO! and i'm surprised you uploaded so soon after that crazy botw vid, but i'm glad u did!

@DrewPicklesTheDark 5 дней назад

"Style" _Doesn't Elaborate_ 5 I approve of this logic

@brodygray744 3 года назад

Okay, the new intro is funky and I love it.

@karma6761 3 года назад

Lmfao that Style section

@legendaryiguess 3 года назад

You’re so underrated! Love the intro. I subbed

@alexpotts6520 3 года назад

Some ideas I'd like to see for signature moves: Yoshi's egg throw Wario's shoulder charge Bowser's fire breath Snake's cardboard box (if that counts as a "move") Hadoken/Shoryuken would be interesting, as concepts that largely came to define the entire fighting game genre

@teddypanda9068 3 года назад

Awesome video. I hope to see more move videos.

@crabdty 3 года назад

FALCON PAUWNCH

@enderlands3373 3 года назад

New intro looking CLEAN

@FlubbedsodaGaming 3 года назад

what an amazing intro you got there 0:31

@mikaela5938 2 года назад

really looking forward to future episodes for something like Shoryuken or Hadoken

@sergionieto8667 3 года назад

When I saw the new intro at first I didn't like the style, but then I got to the end of it and, ngl pogged for a moment, nice 👌

@hamzahuddin2876 3 года назад

Hey man. Just wanna show support. I love ur vids. So high quality. They keep me entertained and also teach me things. The style of ur videos is so unique. Ur effort is outstanding and ur care for your work rly shows. Your one of my favourite content creators. I’ll by March when I have money. Keep it up. ❤️

@jacktkd1734 3 года назад

Not the biggest fan of the way u say Falcon but your content is just as great as always! Keep it up with the best quality ever man!

@austinh1242 3 года назад

That new intro though... it looks so good!

@sarasaland4709 3 года назад

“A fireball in the shape of a Raptor...” Raptor? I feel lied to....

@jago0450 3 года назад

Ahem... As a falcon main, I spam this more than i should, but it works!

@froggyl7472 2 года назад

Man, I love this series

@FedoraKirb 3 года назад

I’m loving the new intro!

@TotalTimoTime 3 года назад

You forgot the down taunt > falcon punch true combo in your synergy section It‘s slightly less optimal than down taunt > down taunt in the ditto but should still be considered!

@NathanGaming395ngGamer 3 года назад

The intro is different from the last one and I love it

@tigrisardens 3 года назад

lmao i totally misheard what he said at the beginning because my headphones were so quiet: “...one of the most iconic moves in smash, the fuckin’ punch”

@tigrisardens 3 года назад

i keep hearing it. blargh

@narxmagee727 3 года назад

The Falcon Punch isn't practical, useful or good in general but there's a reason why it's so beloved. It's a big, flashy, cool looking, fiery move that when landed pumps you full of energy. I screamed a few times from some Falcon Punches in this video. It's carried by it's style factor but I think it's that same style factor that makes the move, his kit as a whole and the captain himself such a memorable character in Super Smash Bros.

@Elegies22 3 года назад

You should do a review over Monado Arts for Shulk

@ricknaturalls2065 3 года назад

Now I'm curious what an F Tier one would look like. I swear I thought this was going to be it.

@ivrydice0954 3 года назад

Naw this move is too cool I don't even think Sonic spin dash would be below it. If I had to think of an F tier signature move.... Volcano Kick? -Does that even count?-

@Mari-hp4tl 3 года назад

But a major factor is how its not from any game hes from

@ivrydice0954 2 года назад

@Roger Loe Isn't that what I said?

@SSM24_ 2 года назад

Yeah, I'm hard-pressed to think of any that would actually fit into that category. I mean, can something really be a signature move if there isn't _something_ about it that makes it stand out above the rest?

@ThrusterMcBuster 3 года назад

Haven’t watched it yet but I know the only thing this move will score high on is style lol

@Mithryl__ 3 года назад

That new intro is so good

@novaprime2297 2 года назад

The fuckin punch is indeed great

@midnight2029 3 года назад

Thank god you're back to a regular schedule.

@DannyCheezits 3 года назад

one of the things that threw me off about smash 64 the most when I tried it was how insanely fast falcon punch is, it's awesome why didnt they keep it that way lol

@venomgaming7014 3 года назад

Oh that new intro is BEAUTIFUL

@weednose1636 3 года назад

the intro is even better

@BeeranProductions 3 года назад

Great to see this show back

@prestone8829 3 года назад

Bro that new intro is sick af

@nicocchi 3 года назад

The Falcon Punch in the anime was the most hype incarnation of the move in its entire history, and while everyone and their grandma has seen it, it carries so much more weight with 50 episodes behind it and brought fucking manly tears to my eyes. Gigantic shame that Smash 4 custom moves gave an electric effect to the Falcon Kick but not the Falcon Punch

@CCuppy29 3 года назад

I believe the Falcon Punch can actually be b-reversed in Project+ which, while still not great, is fucking terrifying

@Dafins100 3 года назад

I wish it could get a 6 in style

@glob-zt5ci 3 года назад

I wish you mentioned that in smash 64 falcon could true combo into falcon punch I’m pretty sure it was character dependent but it’s a thing and it’s rly cool

@MrMockRock 3 года назад

I did mention that though, pretty explicitly in the Synergy section

@CrazyHand7894 3 года назад

Awesome new intro man!

@Fwigid 3 года назад

The new intro is pretty nice!

@gauge19021 3 года назад

Not sure if this is where I can leave suggestions, (if you take those) but I would love to see hero's command selection in one of these!

@pumpkinzz5728 3 года назад

I’m absolutely obsessed with the silhouette art style of the intro. Mind if I ask how you did it?

@MrMockRock 3 года назад

It began with either chroma keys or rotoscoping along with some additional cleanup to get the initial silhouettes (Dark Pit is using Electroshock Arm on an item, for example, which had to be removed). The "liquid" look is a combination of Premiere Pro's brush stroke and roughen edges effects, and the silhouettes were then tinted yellow and posterized to 30FPS. Hope this helps!

@pumpkinzz5728 3 года назад

@@MrMockRock Thanks!

@electricenergy116 3 года назад

Or, as i like to call it, the bird bash, the mockingbird mash, or, if youre feeling fancy, the stork smash

@keksidy 3 года назад

It should be illegal to call the Falcon Punch these

@MasonCookMrFamous 3 года назад

Getting Falcon Punched is up there for "most embarrassing feelings you could possibly have playing Smash". Right up there with Warlock Punch, Amyr, and Kirby killing you with your own move.

@mitrimind1027 3 года назад

Ganondorf's warlock punch may be better even though it's slower because the super armor can punish certain moves and it's stronger making it one of the best sheild break punishes. Ganondorf has other iconic moves though having the strangest up tilt in the game and being a 2nd flex move. His new forward smash, the doriyah, has also risen as an iconic move.