QD: women's shoes often come in what I call "hideous" pale colours. I want the same colours as the men's!! I had no idea about the foot strike angle, so interesting, thank you
Yeah I don't know a single woman personally who likes those light baby blue and lilac colours on running shoes. That said, excluding those as a guy I tend to prefer the bright colours of women's running shoes. Men's ones are always in different hues of navy, grey and orange. Hoka is the worst for this. To be honest I think the default blue and orange colourways of the Bondi 8 are the worst examples of both men's and women's shoe colours haha.
@@estebandelasexface8193 yeah basically, bring on colours for everyone! I want a bright red or a nice blue. I do not want that pale grey or lilac or baby blue or worse... WHITE
Hi Seth, I usually wear a 2E width. Why don’t more shoe companies offer wide widths. Also they don’t offer the same color options as “D” widths? No more boring colors for wide feet please!
The cost of making wides and the demand for them. It doesn’t weigh out in the end. That’s why they don’t make em in all styles and colors. Also why certain companies don’t offer wide such as Nike and adidas.
I think our individual differences in biomechanics are much more varied than gender tendencies, which is why I keep mentioning that everyone should try on shoes you’re interested in, if possible in a local running store on their treadmill. Also, I’d like to know how many of the major brands feature these gender-specific design differences. Most of the supershoes are unisex (Next%, Alphafly-yes?) and Asics Metaspeed line, for 2 examples. Probably other brands’ supershoes as well. Interesting fact re the Endorphin Speeds: I’ve known both men and women who couldn’t find their size or the color they wanted in their own gender, so called the company to ask if there was any difference in the fit, and were told by Saucony there was no difference in the design. So it seems to vary among brands.
I was thinking about this the other day, I like some shoes that are good but under the radar, and some popular ones I just don't get the appeal of. I wonder if nike really tried to tailor their shoes to kipchoge. I think it'd be interesting if they did, and then we'd just try to deal with it. I think nb did this with the rebel last for one of their female sponsored marathoners? Sorry, I forgot the name and video where they rumored this. Oh, and I almost wonder if we have to break down shoe reviews based on body types and stride length and such. Like bigger runners seemed to like the ultraboost.
I got big feet - often run in male shoes but I got a few lady pair also. I don't notice any difference. I love the Saucony for the wider sole midfoot where I land and they feel amazing. I also love how Saucony male have bright and pretty colour that I love wearing and you can't tell they are men. so def wish more shoe companies have colours in male that suit female wearers and reverse
See my comment I just added about at least some company’s not having a difference in design between genders-specifically Saucony for one. I’d always call the company about any particular model to verify.
QD: I have some physical challenges when it comes to the right side of my body. I recently found the “FlyEase” version of the Nike Pegasus lineup and I am absolutely loving them as someone who isn’t very good at tying shoes on my own. I had enjoyed a variety of other shoes but this is a game changer for me personally. I wish other companies would offer a version of their yearly running shoes for the physically challenged or disabled.
QOD: Midfoot width is something I think companies could pay more attention to. Some shoes I have worn flat out hurt my feet and some just had to much room.
Great comment about the shoe laces. I also retrieve them from old shoes. They’re great for spares, for my shoes or the kids’ shoes, or even to use with my speed-skates.
very interesting! thanks for researching this. It would definitely be interesting to see the difference between a men's and women's version of the same shoe!
Hi Seth! I'd love to see more customization built into the shoe itself. Design tech that would allow for differences in volume and heel counter snugness. Maybe a small boa dial for the heel, and optional, removable layers of foam underneath the sock liner to help those of us with high insteps dial in the height. Like a foam that you could literally just peel off, perhaps in 1/16 mm increments or even add for people with lower vol. feet. Just an idea! Thanks for the continued inspiration!!🙏💪
QOD: I wish more shoes would have eyelets to prevent laces from twisting and would keep them flat. Also put more thoughts on how shoes look like after 3-400 miles of wear/dirt.
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Salomon quick lace system and wash your shoes now and then - problem solved.
QOD: ankle collars for me. I can abide any other feature of a shoe but if the ankle collar is padded AND rubs the bottom of my ankle "knob", it'll cripple me in short order. That's why I only wore Saloman XA Pro until the elastic and later the unpadded collars appeared.
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I wish all trail shoes had lacing system and pocket similar to Salomon's. Also foot shaped toebox and anti debree collar would be nice.
QOD: mid foot width for sure. I have a normal width foot, but some companies just have the most narrow mid foot area, others incredibly wide, despite all being “normal/standard” widths.
I appreciate this video. I have long feet and most brands do not make women's shoes that are large enough for me. When I have tried to wear the equivalent size in mens, I end up with pain bc my foot is narrow and mens shoes tend to be wider (as you mentioned). It is incredibly frustrating but thankfully Brooks and Saucony do go above an 11 in women's shoes (and have great colors!). I just wish Salomon would as well as I truly love the way their line feels when I am able to find a shoe in 11.5 or 12.
That was extraordinarily interesting. I have wondered whether tying women's shoes would be worthwhile as I have a lot of issues with heel slip. That forefoot density could be problematic though. Oh - and the shoelace tip - wow - great bang for buck on the video today Seth! :)
Hi Seth, I always look for a wide toe box. Ill get a sore big toe if my feet are too scrunched in a narrow toe box. I tend to run in Altra shoes for this reason. I also prefer a very low drop.
QD: m’y issue with womens shoes that I’m seeing due to my foot strike (even when walking due to many years wearing vans and other flat shoes) is that I always land forefoot to high mid foot. I also pack a lot more muscle than the average women especially in the legs. I definitely have a more pronounced Q angle (if you want to test that sit on a flat surface that you legs can hang down from. Look at the angle of the knee to calve line in comparison to say the leg of a table. Most men are straight up and down. Most woman tend to have almost bowed like look to the angle). The main thing is the mid soles of shoes tend to feel dead to me after about 150 km or so in a shoe. The only shoes I’ve put past that have been the rebel v2 s. This also has an impact on what shoes I can use for long runs. I love lightweight shoes but I’m hard pressed to find a shoe that last past 1hr40 mins as my knees will start to feel too much impact force. Weight lifter turned runner problems. Onward to breaking 7mins in the mile I guess 😂
Toe box shape. Should be as as our foot is made, means in the D-shape. The only NON-bare foot company out there is US company: ToPo Athletic with their standard running shoes (5 mm drop) with anatomic D-shaped toe box. I have 4 different road running shoes in my shoe rotation. I do not understand why almost all the shoes (not only running shoes) in the world are not designed anatomically in the D-shape, but usually in the arrow shaped and deformating your big toe and causes Hallux Rigidus...
True of “fashion shoes” for sure. But not everyone has what Topo-or for that matter, Altra-call “foot shaped” feet. My feet are medium width and if anything on the narrow side and my forefoot just swims in those shoes. I’ve done my share of yoga and always could splay my toes at will naturally to begin with, and can still do this in all but the pointiest/narrowest running shoes. It’s good there are options for everyone and understand there may not be anough for some people with wider forefeet, but speaking for myself, I’ve never had a hint of a bunion or toe abnormality. I do love the Altra Escalante but there’s too much forefoot sideways play for me so it doesn’t work great as a running shoe.
@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 D shape is just a shape of shoe not an extra wide Altta toe box. Altras are just wide nothing else... Not the same category as ToPo.
Love love love the information and educational aspect to this channel in respect to running shoes and running… I’ve learned so much being here with the Seth definitely adds value to my life and keeps to his comment here on his channel Keep it coming big dawg
Back in the day women's shoes did not allow for narrower heels. This has improved a lot in the new shoes. New Balance is a perfect example. They were my favourite shoes but I couldn't wear them until they addressed this heel problem. I still run in them.
What the difference of the vaporfly 3 of women vs men? I am tempted to buy women coz it sucks that several months have passed and there’s no volt colorway for men…
QD: I have a really wide foot, but narrow heel. I have only found one brand that truly fits my foot. I wish other brands at least options for wide toe boxes. Obviously Altra is the only shoe that doesn’t hurt, or give me blisters.
Question - I was under the impression most running companies are not using gender-specific lasts, just different in widths, is this not the case? I know PUMA is one of the few companies starting to use a female-specific last (I think UA may be as well), and in fact created a specific female running shoe with more stability.
Nice information seth. I wanna ask something. So, you wearing women running shoes coz you can't get size on man running shoes, right? Is that no problem? How was it so far when you running? Still feel comfy? Btw, i got same problem with sizing.
if you get a female reviewer, the one criteria is that she wear shorts as short as yours. It wouldnt be a DGR review without high cut split side running shorts., it just wouldnt.
Meh, I'm a big woman with big feet. I just get confused when people talk about narrow women's heels etc. I buy (Hokas) in both men's and women's - in the same size and style - I have not seen a difference. A woman's standard width seems to equal a men's standard width (once again, Hoka). My choice is largely governed by size and colours available. I agree with the commenter below that there is likely to be a larger range in feet within sexes than between.
Qod: Durability in softer foams. I've been trying to help my wife find new shoes lately due to the change hoka did in the gaviota stability line adding stack height to it causing her feet to hurt. Personally had to find out the different lettering for widths. Any suggestions to a similar higher stack height and stability shoe to the gaviota in a different brand?
Width options! Yes ASICS, that’s me calling you out. Why the heck doesn’t the novablast have a wide or extra wide option? I’m usually a size 9 1/2 to 10 and most women shoes. I love how the midsole feels on the novablast, but that shoe is designed so long and narrow that I have to wear an 11 1/2 just for it not to be crushing my toebox. And then I have two extra inches of space at the end of my toe. I’m sorry, but I just don’t buy that anybody’s foot is shaped that way. We have 5 toes. Not one pointy one. I guess I’m just upset that aside from their width issues, so many companies have amazing shoes, but I will never be able to really use them because they don’t even offer wide/extra wide as a special order option. I’d even pay a little more. I understand that if it’s more material it might cost a little more. And I’d be willing to pay a little bit more. But just give me the option, would yuh? Anyway, end rant.
Has anyone (men) used a women's version of the Nike Vaporfly Next% 2? Are they the same as the mens (unisex)? Because I like the women's colourways more, but I haven't dared to buy a women's version yet.
If the shoe is unisex there’s no difference. The clue to whether it’s unisex is that usually M and W equivalent sizes are listed together. A lot of the “supershoes” are unisex. I believe the Nike ones are, as are the Asics Metaspeed models. when I bought the Next% (OG) it was definitely unisex sizing. You can also call the brand or your local running store. A male runner I know wanted the women’s colorway of the Saucony Endorphin Speed because in Canada (where he lives) he couldn’t find it in his size. He called Saucony to see if the shoe would fit the same and they told him yes. So basically at least in certain brands you can buy the equivalent size in the opposite gender.
I'm female and tried a men's vaporfly in size UK 7 (usually wear women's UK 7 as the sizing is equivalent in UK sizes) and the men's was slightly wider so I imagine it's that the men's is just D width and the women's B width. I only noticed I think as I have narrow ankles so I couldn't get as good of a heel lock in the men's version. If I tried a size 6.5 it would have been the same width as my women's size 7 but then it would have been too short. Basically if you are in the US then a US men's 8 is equivalent to a women's 9.5 but the women's will be narrower. If you got a women's 10 it would be the same width as the men's 8 but slightly longer. Do it depends if you are ok with a narrower shoe going just 1.5 sizes up or if you need the extra width and don't mind the extra length then go 2 sizes up.
more 4-6 mm drop shoes. Less engineering. Seems like all the shoe companies are throwing plates in any shoe. I actually like really light shoes with no plate. Like the kinvara. Just like Seth says let you be in charge of your footstrike instead of the shoe being in charge. I actually prefer no bounce. I know I may be in the minority here but I prefer just a light smooth ride than lots of vertical bounce.
Seth, I too will get a womens shoe if they do not have my size in mens. I do weigh more than a female of my height, but I’ve yet to run into any issues. A tip I learned is that if you get a womens shoe, get them in the wide width and they will fit like the standard width of a mens shoe. 👍🏻
