MEPS Pulling Pharmacy Records?!? (2021) | This Changes A Lot! 

I think it will increase the burden for waivers, and bring the numbers down for enlistments. Making issues out of non-issues in my opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

bad i’m 17 and I wanted to enlist to become a 68 whiskey my parents forced me to take Adderall until I was 16 so now I might not be able to enlist

so if there’s anyway you could do a video on medical waivers that would be great

@@patrickcraig331 Same my doc took me off my meds at your age because I finally got a moment alone with him and painted a picture that made him hit the brakes like a ton of bricks. If I remember correctly, I mentioned that I wanted to enlist at that time, too. I’m gonna try to finish that up and prove it was a misdiagnosis to try and clear the waivers.

@@yaboileeroy3038 how exactly can you prove it was a misdiagnosis? We’re you on previous medications? Because I think if you were on medications, you still have to wait the 3 years

Military recruiting is struggling really bad right now because of MHS Genesis

Same

I hope war breaks out now. Stupid MEPS ducking it up

Dang that’s sad I had gotten depression medication and inhaler(over a year since they were used and prescribed) but I was able to slip through so I’d just say don’t be discouraged and genesis is a b^*ch so be on the lookout 🫡

Im sorry bruv. Fuck the enlistment process

@@jaobyeden4143 they got unrealistic standards at times

Hope your doing ok , the military isn’t the end all be all for your life brother.

@@richardhubbard7673 thank you brother. I got my CDL and living life now. I am still going to try to enlist again

@@douglife8566 good luck, and congratulations on your CDL you can make a good living . God bless you.

Dude i was misdiagnosed with a plethora of shit because my parents used any excuse to dope me up and keep me out of sight. Guess having a kid with bells pallsy in their face was too embarrassing for them idk.

There's no test for ADHD, they base it on a bunch of different things like your behavior, academics, ect. but ULTIMATELY it's just someone's opinion like there's no test that says without a shadow of a doubt you have ADHD and that's where i have a problem because DRs just slap labels on children and put them on a medication that they more often than not don't even need

@@NewyorksMagic same with autism. They thought I was autistic because I was smarter than my peers and hated other kids. No. I didn’t hate my peers. I just hated abc’s and 123’s when I just wanted tk be home with my mom or out fishing and hunting with my dad. Social skills? Never knew any kids outside of school and my parents never taught me shit. Wasn’t until I got a moment alone with my psychiatrist as a teen and told him al of this that he hit the brakes and took me off my pills cold turkey. Haven’t had any issues aside from having to play catch-up as an adult because of my parents’ incompetence and neglectful attitude towards parenting. Only joining because of shit opportunities in my town and just a sheer lack of discipline in my upbringing that lead me to be a massive ree ree.

@@yaboileeroy3038 what branch and job are you looking at?

@@deadspeak1126 wanted to go Marine Corps but I’m turning 27 this summer and I might have too much “wrong with me” for them to put in the footwork. So I’m looking at Army or Navy. Hearing is bad in one ear so I’m giving up on combat engineer and going mechanic or avionics tech.

Depression is unfortunately a mental disorder. I had depression for 10 years. It was terrible. I could not get out of bed. I could not feel happy. I could not enjoy life. But I took matters into my own hands and I started psilocybin therapy. After 10 minutes of ingesting psilocybin. 10 minutes, yes. Yes. Yes. 600 seconds. You read that right. My desperation of 10 YEARS went into remission. It was incredible and still months later (I have to micro dose every now and then) I am depression FREE. I don’t take any medication for depression or anxiety. God is good. You can do this, you got this, you can get there, believe in yourself the way I believe in you. ❤

Hey bruv. Don't get too discouraged. I would talk to a recruiter anyway and see what they say. It absolutely doesn't hurt to talk to them and see what they can do for you. If you're good to go now, they might be able to get you a waiver or something. We can talk about everything and what is likely to get you disqualified, but there are also a lot of variables. It can't hurt to at least try, especially with all the good work you have put in for yourself.

I know someone who is talking to their recruiter rn about anxiety meds who got prescribed them but didn’t even take them. It doesn’t necessarily disqualify you from what the recruiter said. You can always reach out to your dr and have them write a letter clearing you, as well as an ego waiver

you can join the army as of today feb 9 2022 they quit pulling prescription history congrats join fast

@@jamesgrindey2113 Where did you get that information?

Try 5 years

When does it pop up when you go to the counselor?

@B_av8 I don’t think you’ll have to worried about being kicked out of dep. just when you get to basic don’t go to medical for nothing

@B_av8 did they find out?

@B_av8 any updates?

I was ridiculously prescribed Hydrocodone in high school for a tonsil abscess. Any updates?

I feel ya

I think recruiters will try to find ways to cheat the system so their applicants can bypass MROAD. Either ways now it may seem like an effective screening tool but it's only going to hurt the military in the long run. Recruitment will suffer the most .

No don’t give up! Listen I’m older than you and am going through a similar situation. I’m 23 and was perfectly fine until I graduated from college and moved out. I’m still fine but the doctor prescribed me anxiety meds when I quit drinking alcohol which wasn’t that bad anyways. I spoke with a recruiter and they told me to stay off meds for a year and to then contact them since I was never diagnosed with anything. I’m not sure if I stand a chance but I think you do. I’m not giving up myself and I don’t think you should get so easily discourage either!

Yeah, I have been out of home and off the meds with no counseling or anything for almost three years. I just feel like there so much already with my early childhood surgery and a mental health record and I'm tired of getting my hopes up you know lol.

@@davacartee1751 fuck. I've been prescribed meds in march after one session (I was reasonably sad because a few deaths had occurred in my family) and I never took them. They are, however, still on my records. I will hear back from meps next week but these comments aren't really giving me much hope.

@@natalialeilani5239 hi did you hear anything back?

@@natalialeilani5239 I'm assuming no good news?

Did you have stuff in your medical history they didn’t find?

@@trinityclark8585 I'm guessing that's the case from how he worded it. From what I've heard from a couple of people online, they don't really even do the full check unless they're given reason to believe you might have some disqualifying stuff in your past. Might not be true but I hope it is

@streetx1602 yep. They never saw my prescriptions for inhalers when I was younger lol. Been in almost 10 months now. Good luck, reception was rough for me but just keep motivated and remember why you're there. You will be fine, just for me at least it was a pretty shocking transition from being a civilian. I could easily go back through reception now having been in for a little while, but at the time it was a little spooky. Everyone next to you is going through the same thing as you, and every step further you go it gets better. Basic is much better than reception in my opinion (you will get smoked at the beginning but it really does build character lol) and ait is way better than basic. Just finished airborne school and it was fun. It goes by kind of slow in the moment, but looking back it all went very fast Just a tip for reception, do what you can to break in your new boots in the bay at night. The end of my bunk had a bar that I could kind of see saw the boot over and it broke it in a little bit better. At first wearing the boots all day in formation made my ankles visibly swell and it was pretty uncomfortable. Like everyone says, the Army is what you make of it and your attitude is very important

How did that workout?

when you play honest with the system it just fucks with you, best not to tell them and suck it up. I came in with undisclosed ADHD and believe me you're not special, every else fucks up in basic. You have to have to maintain confidence in yourself and never give up (cliché but true) . After the 2nd week you will naturally get used to it and everything will seem routine, then it progressively become a matter of doing what your told and watching the time pass until graduation.

Bro I’m in the same boat. This waiver stuff stinks and I don’t even know how you’re supposed to get records that far back. I’ve gone to 3 pharmacy’s and they only keep 2 years records

dont say anything

You sign a third party access form allowing it during the recruitment process.

@@the_awakening332 thats breach of privacy

It should be legal and is completely necessary people in bmt would try and pull card where they can collect an easy disability check this law is in play so nobody can do that anymore.

@@brittanyfeagin2191 do you remember the name of the document specifically?

@@jershmit2994 it also comes with high consequences recruiting is very down and the waiver process hasn’t changed at all

If you don't have a history of anxiety you should be fine I was just waived for some anxiety meds they gave me at the ER but I was never diagnosed or had a previous history

@@qiaramartinez9451 how exactly did you go about it?

@@qiaramartinez9451 I don’t understand what you mean , before they give you any medicine, you need to be diagnosed !! They don’t just push medicine to you

@@damilarebalogun5798 It’s not always that simple. I had one or two panic attacks due to drinking which I was prescribed benzos for. I’ve quit drinking since which is only been heavily doing for four months anyways. Regardless, I don’t have a history of anxiety and although I’ve been taking the anxiety meds for less than a year now, I aim to quit them soon and wait it out for a couple months and then speak to a recruiter again. I spoke to a recruiter and he actually mentioned that he was going through a lot of b.s because of genesis pulling up pharmacy records. But I guess my question is, did you release records before enlisting my dude?

@@MuhammadFarukh how can I avoid showing benzos up on the genesis?

did u tell them or did they see it

Best of luck!

Every MEPS station is different. When I went through it they were really chill. What’s probably going to end up happening is as long as it wasn’t any strong medication and you aren’t showing signs of asthma at the station, they’ll probably just disregard the information on record. So long as you’re good now, no asthma, ADHD, and no signs of bad anxiety or depression, with no physical red flags, you’ll probably get through without issue.

@@v01d_r34l1ty so I found out I was grandfathered In because my packet was submitted before the roll out of the pulling pharmacy records was introduced. I went to MEPs today and it went well

@@kodyaitch2826 good for you! Thank you for your future service!

How long are you grandfathered in for? Went to meps twice in 2019. Will I still be grandfathered in?

I hope it stays that way man, best of luck to you dude

I’m literally in the same situation right now. I’m getting real frustrated.

Any of those happen to be colitis or chrons disease?

Yeah it seems like it would be a complicated process for sure

As far as I could tell, I went to my recruiter and got everything squared away the first day going in the office. It took maybe 2-3 days (assuming he had other people to deal with as well) to get my records checked for medication (which I knew for sure I had never taken) to be able to go to meps. I think they just check with your doctor or healthcare center and see if you had any prescribed through them

Exactly. What if they're just putting the information out there to scare new recruits to admit everything

So, I just decided like this week I really want to join the military. But last month I got a full time job with health benefits, so I decided I would get a prescription for adderall to help with overall retention at work because it’s boring work and my mind wonders. But how I got the meds was through an app that gives you an evaluation via zoom and then they send the prescription to your pharmacy. So there are 3 parties that have this info right? It would be the app I did the evaluation through, medical insurance and the pharmacy. Could I just pretend like never got a full time job, therefor not having medical insurance? Or could i put down my college that provided medical insurance? That way when they check my records they would only get my passed records previous to this year. if it’s not the insurance they contact maybe I just won’t disclose the company that I received the prescription from?

@@UltimateGenosyko My friend told me about Cerebral a few months ago. Like an an idiot I used it and was diagnosed with like ADHD? I’ve never in my life have had this kind of issue. I went with it, allowed them to mail me Wellbutrin or whatever. I never even took the drug. Now I’ve finally gotten in shape to join the military and have to explain this whole thing…Jesus.

How long were you out for, from my understanding if it is within a year of ETS and still green on medpros you dont have to go back through medical

I got DQd at meps today and need 4 waivers because of genesis. Got 1 still waiting on 3. One recruiter that isn't mine said enlistment is now down 80% because of all this.

@@user-dd1bb4tw4r tbh who is surprised if they want to do this genesis bullshit they should have made their standards realistic first

🤣🤣🤣

They canceled my Meps appointment Friday, and they're sending me a letter explaining exactly why.

@@Peter-ge4ov awww that sucks bro I know how you feel, it ruined my whole morning, if you don’t mind me asking…why do you think they cancelled it? Did you take any medications in the past 7 years?

So they were able to pull up your records from a database or did you tell them about it?

@@Adrohskeez I got the letter, they pull up to 7 years from your pharmaceutical records its crazy, I have to get medical records from all the doctors I’ve been to it’s a hassle

Damn. If you don’t mind me asking what state are you in?

Never be honest if you want to join.

but howd it go?

I'm going through the process now brother, though I'm going through the US Army. I wouldn't worry about it too much, just make sure you have the records and the recruiter knows about it. Also, it depends on how long ago 6th grade was for you. If it was over 7 years ago, it won't matter because that's far back as they look. If you're 18 and heading right into the Marines, then it probably will come up. Again, just make sure your recruiter knows and they should be able to help you. I would reckon you need a waiver at worst, hopefully. I don't know if the Marines do a whole lot of waivers, but just keep your head up. Good luck on your journey my man. 🤙

@@forgedwarrior20 alright sounds good thank you! And you too

I believe it’s the past 7 years

As long as you already went to meps make sure to sign your contract ASAP they won’t check unless the deadline comes up

@The Warzone Fugitive I was off adhd for 10 years and just got dq. Meps refused to even entertain waiver. They are being way stricter at the moment. I never had any plans or whatever in school. Dont fall under the dq criteria but still got dq for meds. they arent even following their own standards.

@@spurtikk you must have other disqualifies then. You would have been let in if you had been off for TEN years.

@@Keightinn thats only thing I was told was why. 🤷‍♂️ been working in precision manufacturing for years and labor jobs. Physically and mentally fit.

@@spurtikklook at a diff meps. I know Tampa mess is shit. I went to Knoxville and they were great.

This needs a discussion.

Somebody broke the code. So mhs genesis pulls from every state Health Information Exchange(HIE). So pretty much most hospitals and pharmacy send their medical information to a exchange database that is meant to make it easier for hospitals, doctors, providers , pharmacies to send records and prescriptions electronically without delays to better serve patients no matter where they are in the country. The military tapped into this and used the infrastructure to audit records. For example, some pharmacies send data to sure scripts in which they send to the health information exchange. Google health information exchange and you will see the rabbit hole

so MEPS only see meds you take not when you picked up or delivered to you or what pharmacy filled it?

@@tamiayen2388 anything sent from doctor to pharmacy they can see all it takes is one solid recruiter though to get you cleared i finally test the 20th goodluck to you.

I live in Nashville, TN for anyone wondering

@Anthony Kight Yeah this system is going to back fire on them. The military will seriously suffer on the recruitment side of things. Since this new bullshit system pretty much eliminates at least 80% of the potential applicant pool.

@Anthony Kight The military will never achieve it's recruiting goals with this new system in place. Either 90% of people joining will need a waiver or they just won't be able join at all. Seeing as the majority of youth in this country have been prescribed at least some form of medication. Hopefully they will come to their senses and realize if they want to recruit and retain people that MROAD has to go.

@Anthony Kight Now it will seriously back fire on them

@@Komodokhan148 I’m actually one of those people who may have to get a waiver just because of my medical history from last year. I’m completely fucking fine but just because I was misprescribed certain medications, I’m going to have to wait out a year or possibly more to enlist. Now I really want to serve but I can’t sit on my ass for two to three more years waiting for a possible chance to get in with a waiver.

I agree.Alot of there officers have adhd

Try anyway and if you’re not currently taking the meds that helps big time

Not in the past 7 years, right?

@@markm5772 thank for the information I really needed to see this

They might, or like most other things it could be a facade. It didn’t take but like 2 days to check for my medical records and I’m sure it was them just confirming through my healthcare center that I wasn’t perscribed medicine that would prevent me from joining, instead of going through every single place I’ve been through (Ik some people go to different healthcare centers and even insurances so it would be hard)

@@eli6797 when did they pull your medical records? I joined the Marines and am waiting to join, and they never pulled my records

My recruiter said there are big delays. We are waiting for meps to set an appointment date. Florida is missing doctors now in the military.

Same I’m lowkey confused but just going to contact my past doctor office

I got mine from 10 years back

@@willwitt1020 how do you even know what doctors/pharmacies to go to? I asked my mom but she pretty much just said "you went to urgent care for everything don't worry about it". I hope she's right but I'm worried there might be records that dq me

If you have no documentation of any injuries or conditions you have, just avoid telling your recruiter and the processing in general. As far as the military should know, you’re 100% healthy and ready to go with no prior history of surgeries or injuries

Do you have asthma or any of the other things?

@@cameronthien7874 no

@@nick9573 with the new medical system it will pull up your entire medical record so of you try to hide something they will find it, as for mine absolutely nothing came back on mine. Your recruiter will see If anything comes back

So do they care about adhd if u stopped taking it for a year

@@nickhardner6691 odds are you will need a waiver. But that's up to the CMO to say you need a waiver or your DQ

I'm prior service and I'm getting ready to enlist. I don't have to deal with this?

@@swim2dtop85 Depends, How Long Have You Been Out?

@@cjfrm5188 what if I’ve been out for 2 years?

@@malwick6912 Sheessh, I Think You Might Have Too

@@cjfrm5188 just passed my physical last week, I’m just waiting to reenlist now🙏🏾

Get a letter from the doctor clearing you!

Unfortunately if you have a history of depression documented on your medical records there is a high chance you can get disqualified but if you are just prescribed the medication and don’t have your issues documented there is a high chance you’ll get excepted

We're in the same boat. Is this that much of a deal? Will I be completely banned from serving because I forgot I was prescribed an opiate painkiller 9 years ago?

Do they give you a list of the prescriptions that were flagged red?

@@strangebrew1231 No it's no big deal, if it's a medication that they're concerned about, you'll pop for it and you'll just have to provide the documentation for why you were on that medication. But if it was 9 years ago you won't pop for it at all, they're only going 7 years back so 2015 is how far back they go

@@johcmit Yes they do, your recruiter will get an email with a list of the medications you popped for and the name of the Doctor that prescribed the medication to you and you'll just have to provide medical records from those drs that explains why you were on those medications and you'll be good to go

@@brendenaust1927 This was started Dec 1st 2021 so if you submitted all your prescreen info before that date then you won't have your records pulled, on the same note if you submitted your prescreen after that date and you're currently in DEP that means they didn't find anything and you're good to go. No worries, best of luck to you brotha 👍🏽 🇺🇸

i'm in a similar situation. Did you have any issues at MEPS? I went to an urgent care to get my dry skin checked out and they had me get some excema medication for it. I haven't been diagnosed with excema to my knowledge, but I'm worried that record of that medication being there is enough for me to need a waiver. Normally a waiver wouldnt be a huge deal, but I can't go to RASP with any medical waivers and that would totally fuck up my plans for the future

@@ChickentNug i was successful getting through meps no problem, but they are able to pull up records for visits to urgent care. I would play dumb and just say its “dry skin” maybe get a doctors note clearing it as back up if need be . Good luck with it!

@@tylerevans9224 Hey thanks man I appreciate it. I'm really looking forward to joining so this video kinda freaked me out not gonna lie lol

Source?

They are now using MHS Genesis which not only pulls medication but also electronic medical records, it is mroads on steroids, this has officially replaced it and has been getting rolled out at meps across the country since Feb. 24th. Also potentially using it to catch people at reception/bct who got passed meps and discharging people.

This is incorrect. It’s true the MROADS, the prescription system went offline but that’s only because it’s been replaced by Genesis. Genesis partners with leading EHR vendors like Epic for back door access to both prescription and full medical charts.

@@jordansam so are they accessing only prescription records or full medical records as well?

@@queenawesome2601 yes, spoke with my recruiter today, they are still checking pharmacy prescription history.

You would need to follow up with that doctor and provide the paperwork

Should be fine

@@TheBenAllen. Thanks for your input.

@@Middigit212 thanks for the information

Should be fine

STD’s? If so you’ll be fine if it’s resolved

I’m in the same boat as you bro, I’m waiting to see if I can get approved for astha and acne medication, did you get approved?

Asthma*

@@mylesbrown9079 I’m in a similar situation. Air Force wants me to go to my doctor and get the status of my asthma and last time for medication use. Asthma hasn’t bothered me in forever (now 27) therefore I believe it’s gone. Idk how I’m suppose to find the last time I got prescribed medication for it. What if I’m not able to find that out

@@woodcrest4655 I think that mean to get the last maybe 5-7 years of medical records from your pharmacy to see if you got prescribed an inhaler, have you done any pulmonary test?

@@woodcrest4655 for me, they made me take a methacholine challenge test ( passed ) and asked for the last 5 years of medical records from pharmacy to look for a prescription of inhaler, but I was told they only look at the last 3 years so I’m not positive about how far back they look