Trust me, you didn't miss anything. Just watch the video and it's obvious which car is the more fun to drive and which one is all business. That's all you need to make up your mind.
Why do they always test these cars on a race track? They should test it in the real world, there's more to cars than just lap times. Considering that most people don't live on a race track i would say lap times are irrelevant. Just a quick survey, how many of you live at or near a race track?
G9 Music I live near one. But whether I could afford to visit it weekly, that's whole another question. Thing is, if these cars were tested on road, you wouldn't see them moving around that much. And come on, everyone wants to see these cars at their best. It's dangerous to drive like this on a public road, so you would see them just driving boringly.
So the AMG lost against the 4WD Carrera GTS (AutoExpress), the 911 Turbo (EVO) and now against the 2WD Carrera GTS. Yes, the AMG is a good car, but the Porsche is better... END OF STORY.
***** Oh not only in Britain. I'm sure MotorTrend will conduct this test as well and the Porsche would win again. Besides Porsche doesn't care to win in Germany. Most of their sales are to the US. Those german magazines know how much people love Porsche, so now they want the US market grow to like the AMG to up sales for Mercedes as well. The British and US magazines are unbiased because they are foreign. Its like the Japanese testing the 911 vs GT-R. OBVIOUSLY they would say the GT-R is better. And anyone who says that is fucking nuts
***** It doesn't really matter, because there will always be a 911 that is better. That is just the truth. If the Turbo S doesn't win, the GT3 RS will. If the GTS doesn't win, the GT3 will.
ewt415 Exactly. GTS means very little these days considering that cars like the GT3 have more character and is as easy to live with each day. The ONLY thing the 911 GTS has going for it is the fact that you can get it in a manual.
***** So what do you have to say about MotorTrend?? Porsche won 3 out of 5 of their last Best Driver's Car of the year competition. Are you saying they are paid as well?? Come on, don't be a fool now.
AMG is gorgeous...and the interior is a work of art...sur, the 911 is a Porsche, which is to say a brilliantly engineered car...but that AMG really gets the blood pumping...wish they would put the E63s mill in there...that would me madness
The new GT should be compared to the Jag F type r. much closer in style price point and beauty. porsches are the fastest cars but not as lust worthy as the F type and gt
I know but if people are in the market for a gt they are much more likely to consider the f type than the Porsche. Fast beautiful cars that are loud and in your face. The regular gent wants to be noticed in a flashy car not some Porsche that is by far the better dynamic driver's car but not nearly as likely to take it to a track.
Kaipeternicolas The GT3 splits the difference between sports car like the AMG GT and real specialist cars like the 458 Speciale. No F-Type can ever be compared to a Ferrari or Lamborghini.
The Porsche will always be the safe choice for those who want the pinnacle of driving precision, but the GT is the one that is more fun and, he said it right in the video, the one that will keep you smiling every time you see it in your garage. I guess auto reviewers like these guys have a different definition of what fun is than the rest of us normal blokes who drive normal cars.
Is it just more or did he say he wanted to see which one was faster but then they didn't show any timed laps?! Or are we 'just' supposed to assume the Merc won after they provided the stats. Also using a car nearer the same cost as the Merc probably would have given it a more balanced head to head.
I love both,the problem is i only can only bought one of them.damn i cant focused on my job or my college and spending time looking at youtube comparison and coming back and forth to the showroom to sit on it,look at it and take picture of it. this is going to be the first brand new sports car that i ever bought so kinda big deal to me lol. since i was a kid i always wanted 911 911 911 911 but then came this beastly merc with beautiful ass...oh god!!! are you testing me for my determination to buy my childhood dream?!
Please balance the audio levels between external shots and commentary. And also give Matt a mic for the in-car camera so that his voice doesn't have to battle with the in-car engine noise.
The Porsche is the real drivers car. It is also the benchmark that other manufacturers are trying to catch up to. I drove everything and nothing comes close to a Porsche sports car for every day use and track fun, not to mention lower cost of maintenance and lower sticker price. From Dodge SRT salesman with Porsche tattooed on his heart
this guy sound a bit like a 911 fanboy... even if i like the sound of this 911 gts, i prefere the look of the mercedes and i will take it over the porsche to an everyday basis.
No rest for the wicked Yes I know that obviously but it was two of his main arguments ;) and he says of both they where great to drive. The other tests said a bit the same thing.
lelegume1635 Seriously? He says the GT S is great to drive but he's absolutely ecstatic about the Porsche. The same result for pretty much any other motor-journalist out there. Are motor-journalists exclusively 911 fanboys?
You don't get it do you. A sports car (911 GTS) will always be more fun than a sporty grand tourer (GT). That's why. Lol argue all you want. You probably want cars based on 1. Looks 2. Specs and that's it.
The pricing is so strange, there's a 20,000 GBP difference in price over there, yet over here the prices for a GT S and 991 GTS are only separated by 15.000 USD, and once you option up both cars they're within about 5,000 of each other.
The race track is for comparison purposes. In any case, what pisses me off is that autocar goes to the trouble of running the cars at the track and they do not post times. Just their impressions. They say the 911 is the better drivers car. But what are the track times, that gives me the facts.
Suggestion: when the car is making lots of beautiful noise or screeching around the track, perhaps you should try not talking as we cannot hear what you have to say.... I am interested but half the time, I just heard a jumble of sounds. Great cars!
I've asked this before, but no answer. So I'll ask it again: WHERE IS STEVE SUTCLIFFE!? That's why I subbed to the channel. This guy can't convey any of his passion.
Tbh after 200k km or more we will see which one is the better car. You have to rev up the porsche to get the power. In the Mercedes its much better solved. The old 63 AMGs were naturally aspirated aswell and still its impossible to damage these engines.
"Porsche looks 1m dollars" You should be joking.. It's just a Porsche, nothing special. The host just loves the 911, for him it would win even in the comparison with P1...
The new GT should be compared to the Jag F type r. much closer in style price point and beauty. porsches are the fastest cars but not as lust worthy as the F type and gt
Don’t agree with this guy’s viewpoints - not sure how he likes the Porsche steering, which everyone else agreed was sh~t when the 991 was released, and how he felt non-existent lag in the AMG engine...
The Mercedes is beautiful... far better looking than the SLS...they got it right this time... 911 is perfect to drive on the track but for everyday driving which most people buying these cars will do...the Merc is just that bit more special... where the 911 is the perfect driving tool!
I am a mercedes fanboy and i love merc as much as nothing but what they could add on the gts(😍) is a AWD and some more horsepower for example make it 583 hp instead of 503 that would help it exelerate(sorry for the english in this word) faster even on higher speeds and the AWD would help it kick of the lane keep that place. Yes it would make the car heavier but it would have more fiction(is that right?) and power.So with it's great aerodynamics a AWD and 583bhp it will be a lot faster even if it is heavier
can't beat a porsche once you've owned one almost nothing seems good anymore. For 110 grand for the amy gts i would just spend the little extra to get a turbo which would run rings around the amg gts much better car
Haha. This is funny. So I recently watched Evo's track comparison of the AMG GT S and the 911 Turbo. I liked the review and thought it was very informative but I felt as though putting an all wheel drive 911 up against a rear wheel drive GT S was not a fair fight. Fast forward a few days and your video compares the GT S to a closer rival with rear wheel drive as well! (I admit the power difference is vast and maybe that was the reason for the evo's choice in the turbo) Even though it probably should not matter that much to me, especially considering one of the greatest attributes of a 911 is the driving experience, I was looking forward to see lap time comparisons in this video. There were none so I was a little sad, but I'll suck it up and admit that I was happy that yet another motor-journalist thinks that a 911 is still the better 'drivers car.' :-)
The amg is alot faster in straight line looks better(in and out) and debatably sounds better. If its not a 911 GT3 or rs then fuck that. Amg is better overall car.
I do not care. For me, looks are more important than sound. Because I will be looking at the car more than hearing it. So no, no matter how much you convince me, I still think the AMG GT looks crap. turboman1505 I know. Thanks! I have quite a lot of experience in that field because I always speak my mind which many disagree with.
***** From an objective viewpoint, neither is as 'pure' or timeless a design as an F-Type or 4C or so. The Porsche worked best in the '911 50th Edition' with the GTS trim kind of spoiling its simplicity. The Mercedes looks fresh, but let's check back in a couple of years to see what people think then.
samuel999 I sort of disagree. The 911's design is as iconic as it gets. And its been timeless for the last 50 years. I don't understand how you can call it not 'pure' or timeless. No hard feelings, though.
The best-proportioned 911s are the long nose, short wheelbase 1963-1968/9 models. The 964/993/991 Carrera 2 models get very close but most of those generations have variants with ugly detailing to 'distinguish' the trims. For whatever reason Porsche decided the GTS needed a 'boy racer'-ish look and an ugly front fascia, etc. Thus, I think the only 991 I'd consider a classic at this point is the 50th Anniversary, which is just a jewel inside out.
Well isnt a hilarious comparing a mere Mercedes with the world top class sports car Porsche?? Its simply just a glory experience to mercedes just be brought up as a comparision with a Porsche..well done mercedes..once a car maker that didnot have technology and knowhows to build a proper sportscar..they asked porsche to build one for them.(the famous 500E) but now they have AMG and they are getting better and bettet..good to see these mass luxurymid level brands BMW andMercedes making bettet performance cars..good job
