Merle Oberon’s mom was actually her sister who birthed her at 12 + bleaching horrors 

Can you please do a video about Korla Pandit the very light skinned black American musician who passed as a musician from India back in the 50s? Can you please do a video about the famous Peruvian soprano named Yma Sumac also whom Hollywood put the ‘Inca princess’ gimmick on back in the 50s? Both Korla Pandit and Yma Sumac were a part of the very 50s music genre called ‘Exotica’ and their music was very popular during the 50s because of the popularity of the ‘Exotica’ genre

Can I play also do a video about the notorious Alain Delon? Thank you so much

Hi Karine will you ever do a video about Carmen Miranda? Carmen Miranda was one of Brazil’s hugest stars and icons but Carmen and her parents really came straight out of Portugal anyway 🇵🇹

Hi Karine, I love your stories, but I have an issue with implying or stating that a woman may have prostituted herself, without police reports or some kind of hard evidence. One is not supposed to speak ill of the dead, and these ladies are no longer here to defend themselves. I think it would be more dignified to give these very accomplished women the benefit of the doubt. I mean if it's true and you have proof that's one thing, but to honor our dead I think we should not speculate on whether a woman sold herself or not.

🧡great work, thank you.✌🏼

So you want the videos taken down for using certain words because that’s what happens

She’s not downplaying the situation but her video can be demonetized and possibly taken down because there are certain words YT will not allow for advertisers.

Why can't certain words be used? This is everywhere on media now. It's ludicrous, especially since we all know (some have letters missing, others use different words or blanks, etc). Who is responsible for this nonsense. It's even on religious programs!!!

FACTS

@@lupejones3694I’m guessing bc the creeps with authority don’t want these words used bc it could mean that truth is coming out .

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Dammm that's crazy🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Wow. I never heard of this. We all forget that celebrities are people too.

Same for Ted bundy…..

That is true

@KB-tf8vp, it's not that uncommon in today's society. There are women who became great grandmother (such as Ms. Whoopi Goldberg) in their 50's in life.

@@anthonygriffin1958 you’re confusing something happening more than once with that making it not sad.

@KB-tf8vp , the sad part you speak of is people not being able to look beyond a person's skin tone in the past, that continues to exist in the present, in every walk of life. As the old saying or adage goes, "nothing really changes, it just remains the same" over the years.

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.....ikr.....

A very deeply moving drama. I love this film especially the 1959 version. ❤️

Right I was just thinking that

@ilburton - EXACTLY!!!!

Sorry to disappoint you, but Merle Oberon was not mixed race. Her mother's people were Burghers living in Ceylon, Sri Lanka, and they were a European mix of mostly Portuguese, Dutch and British. If her stepfather was her actual father via rape he was white too. If she had any shade it may have been some Portuguese in her bloodline, but she was definitely not Indian, no matter what this video says. It's just another example of people trying to claim successful white people as their own and then colorizing them and making them victims of the evil white people.

@@sarahwinston7828 what’s disappointing is that you’re trolling mixed race & poc biographical videos w your clearly racist delusions. Sri Lanka had people on it before colonizers came. Or in the circles you travel is that not true? & once again, it said she was BORN in India.

There are times when one has to make their own family. Good for you!

Yes. Her mother, a raped child too, was called a servant after birthing a superstar 😢 that is so sad.

YES!

I agree, she's a stunning beauty. The racism she suffered is a scourge. If she was anything close to sane, it's koodos to her soul.

Everyone has secrets and we virtually all are racially mixed because all "tribes" migrated, raided, intermarried other " tribes" they encountered and procreated. This is not something invented by Europeans but goes back way before the Pharaohs and Babylonians and Mongols and such.

The world does not criminalize white skin!!! The world demonizes, dark skin on people of color not white people!!! White people can have dark skin without being demonized! Black people cannot Black people will be demonized!

It's RIDICULOUS!

It's all about control

@@tornadosirenwednesday exactly

It's horrible that she gave into it. That is defeat.

I am looking forward to the day were culture and skin colour are seen in a positive light . People are just people. And should be accepted for what they are .

@tiapina7048, I hate to be the bearer of bad news regarding the content of your comment. If people continue to teach hatred in the household & continue to lack the common sense or logic (education is irrelevant) to pass on to others in the household. It's this kind of thing (racism) that will continue to manifest itself in society.

@@anthonygriffin1958 My father is a racist, that didn't stick with me, and as far as I know neither with my siblings. I know plenty of people in similar households, or people who were racist and then they opened their eyes. It will take time, I'm not expecting to happen any time soon, but every generation is one step further in the right direction.

@@tiapina7048 that will depend on the minds & hearts of people who aren't invested in hate groups that are out to brainwash them about humanity in today's society. It simply takes looking around & seeing what's happening in the country regarding people who are doing such a thing over the years.

😢Reminds me of the old movie Imitation of Life. 🧡

Exactly, she did what she could do with what she was born into. Things like this happened a lot in the past for people every where . Back in the day when there was slavery in the US the white would mix with the blacks to the point to where you could not till if the person is mix

She wasn't mixed race. The Ceylon community in Sri Lanka of her mother were Burghers, a mix of Portuguese, Dutch and British people. They were NOT INDIAN! If Merle's stepfather was her real father, Arthur Thompson, he was white, too. What she may have been hiding is that her mother was her grandmother, but there is absolutely NO INDICATION that she was INDIAN. She was in a car accident when she was 26 that damaged her face, no record anywhere of her bleaching her skin. This whole piece is disinformation in order to drive a narrative which isn't true. She was white. Deal with it.

She was beautiful irrespective of where she came from. She made the very best of her looks and tried to further her opportunities in order to live. In a non homogeneous society racial stereotypes can make survival extremely hard, despite any talents a person has. May she rest in peace and be remembered as dignified, graceful and poised as well as a beauty and talented. 🧡🧡🧡🧡

@@yj7598 She was white. Her mothers' people were Burghers from Ceylon/Sri Lanka and were predominantly Dutch, Portuguese & British Europeans. Not Indian. Her father was also British, if her sister was the victim of abuse. She doesn't have any Indian bone structure or color. She really was in a car accident at 26 and needed surgery to her face and care of the scars. No evidence of skin bleaching. This is another made up woke tale trying to put color on Caucasians then claim their accomplishments to elevate POC for vanities' sake.

How right u can get good or badvibes from people

Indeed, Indeed

you know india is ra*e central, right?i would nevereven speak with any Indian or Pakistani man!

Merle wasn't the only one. All celebrities were told they weren't good enough, pretty enough, tall enough, thin enough, etc. Jean Harlow died in her 20s from kidney failure due to having to bleach her hair! Hollywood is full of plastic surgeons for a reason.

How did you know he was half Indian

They hated each other

Absolutely!

Oh gosh gotta tell you it explains a lot about my mom and my aunt's relationship! Now my aunt is gone RIP and my mom is a clam. DNA will tell us ALL the truth 😂

It's my favorite book! Which version of movie?

Loved the movie too

@@erickamorgan4564 I think Merle's in the 1939 version.

Back then they're still lying today look at all those lying politicians

They still do all the lying, nothing has changed. You can never believe what comes out Hollywood mouth, ever! 🐝

My Mother was what was called Anglo-Indian and she told us of the daily humiliations what Anglo-Indians went through was unbelievable. Main reason why at the end of British occupation of India more than a quarter of a million emigrated from India to the UK/Canada/New Zealand. Some today still pretend today they are "English' Cliff Richards for one as well as the late Stewart Granger who made it big in Hollywood. Other well known UK actors/pop stars are still around.from the time of the British Raj the last children of the British Raj. An irony I experience is being dark skinned and asked how long have I lived in the UK. Yet my father is white English and written records prove his family go back to the 13C in Suffolk UK.

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I agree Dorothy Lamar & Dinah Shore ❤😊👍

Nothing has changed since then, black people are still doing the bleaching thing. Even just ordinary black women doing it plus ironing their hair to shreds, and thos who can afford it buy the wigs and hair pieces which I don't know how they sweat it through the day. Forever scratching their heads etc. Why? I don't know but it sure is ridiculous to go to that extent. Everything is false from top to bottom. 😂🐝

@@amandadassonville4043 stop being so negative most black women are not bleaching their skin and more and more black women are starting to embrace our natural hair don't talk about what you don't know

​@@amandadassonville4043 meanwhile you'll be the same kind of person who when you see a black person with their natrual hair or dreadlocks you'll start staring like you just saw an alien or burst out unnecessary laughing.

@@amandadassonville4043 Some of what you say is true. Black women with very coily hair (like mine when unstraightened) have to either a) find styles that work with our natural hair which is not as affirmed as straighter hair textures or b) relax and/or flatiron our hair, wear wigs, sew in hair on top of cornrows in order to fit in more. So, when you make a joke of this reality you are showing lack of character and attacking the victim of society’s valuing of whiteness. Not funny, not cool. Just cruel.

You say the truth. Its difficult but people should strive to accept what they are at any age and be themselves

Indeed, you hit the nail on the head. Rita Hayworth is another example. Their heritage made them stand out in their beauty and at the same time they had to deny the source of their beauty and success. Ironic indeed.

In contrast the most unattractive people I've met have been able to claim being pure blooded.

​@@quazwasd4062rita did not look mixed race. Merle was Eurasian

Your comments and understanding of the control and prejudice of the time is brilliant

Yes, I was proud as a child she was a Tasmanian, like Errol, but was told she was Indian later! Sri Lankan and British is much more exotic! 🤗 Sad! 😪

Tasmania. This is where aborigines were exterminated.

@@therealgodessisis5004 That's not true, many still live today on a separate island, they were moved there because of their inability to integrate or become civilised!

Tasmania is also where the genocide of Aborigines was successfully carried out, which tells you all you need to know about the colonisers.

@@jenniferharrison8915 "or become civilised" ??? Indeed ! That speaks volumes for what YOU are..:!!

I watched Queenie when it debuted. It was based on the book written by Merles' nephew Michael Korda. Thanks for the additional info. 💫

I don't know about a movie but I do know there was a book. She had a very tragic life.

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It's called abuse disgusting step dad

I loved 'Queenie' so much that in the early 2000s I found it on an auction website and bought the DVD! Mia Sara was stunning in that, and the storyline was so different than most tv movies in the 80s.

@SewardWriter, I would say that being biracial was more unacceptable than being a sin regarding one's life. There were people involved in interracial relationships or marriages that were unlawful in the country. It was until the Supreme Court ruled (The Lovings vs The Commonwealth of Virginia) having them to become lawful back in 1967. ⚖️

@@anthonygriffin1958 Many people literally considered it a sin. Where I live, in Oklahoma, it was often seen as damning. This doesn't show up in law. It shows up in history.

@@SewardWriter that's the problem with people's way of thinking in a naive way & not the thinking of the creator God in the end. There are people who will tell you they are Christians in life. Although those people have a poor way of showing that by way of their words & actions throughout the course of time.

@@anthonygriffin1958 You're talking to someone who is not Xtian, and has been hurt unspeakably in Jesus's name. I'm not terribly sympathetic to the religion. I don't need a lecture. All I know is that being biracial was once considered a sin. Period. That is history, and it is humanity. The end.

@SewardWriter, it's not about giving you a lecture regarding the subject matter on the internet. It's about keeping it real about the facts of life. There are people who have thought about everything under the sun to prevent from expecting change from what they have been taught in the household over the years. The southern region is a prime example of that in the country. The sin you speak of is in the minds of people who refuse to deal with change that effects every part of their hearts during the course of their lifetime.

I looked close and see someone else. Typing that wont make ppl see what you do or want them to esp if they dont know how those peoples look typically 🤨😒

@@MissCellanious1who do you see when you see her? I’ve seen Tamil people and know their faces

"Indian" is not a race shes African

We Indians have long broad faces. Look at me Dude. Straight up Indo. She also had that. ​@@devdiya9615

They must be beautiful

Why did you take it in a negative way when kids hinted you might have African ancestors due to your hair?

@@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci Because it was meant as an insult. If you were familiar with the atmosphere in the South at the time, you'd get that. And I was a child. Children are sensitive to the scorn of other children. I would react very differently now as an adult, but then no one has said that to me since middle school.

Well, she had to. Not that it's okay, but it demonstrates the power of "whiteness" in order to be able to live a decent life. It's very sad.

@@LisaF777orbit “white”enough, even olive skinned had to compete.

​@@lindaanthony7890That's true too

These mixed people are evil. They will throw pure non yts under the bus for their goals

I don’t blame her since they pretty much covered up the fact that she was molested and raped. And they did that all to her.

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Exactly. Well said. And I don't give a sausage toss about what she had to do to survive injustice and bigotry. She was a hard working, talented, accomplished, beautiful women that I can't help respect and admire. 🍃

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We maybe, but if that were the case we'd all be like her, which isn't true. It's called self-accountability.

Thanks for saying that. Merle's birth mother/sister was half British, and then her bio father was also British, making her lighter yet. As with most Indians they range in their skin color. In the Anglo world anyone darker than an English person was dark complected. That's a lot of people in this world: Middle Eastern, Mediterrean, Caribbean, basically anyone form a sunny climate & olive skinned. For my own grandmother, passing through Ellis Island, one year she came in Fair, another year she came in Dark. A lot was the prejudice of the Anglos/English/Irish for anyone not as pale as them.

She is what her parents were, with British ancestry

So called "Indian" is not a race, she black.

I think her real mother Constance was 1/2 white due to rape. Like the grandmother who was also rape at 13/14. Making Merle 1/4 Sri Lankan

Shes half indian move on.​@@latoyagolisano782

Good your grandparents took precautions. The most (in)famous lynching photo -2 young men , dude w/ a hitler mustache lookin into the camera is in Marion IN.

What an interesting story....thanks for sharing. What happened to your grandparents?

@@TheSeedpearl My grandmother was kicked out of her home town, Bedford, Indiana. By her father. Said he didn't have a "N" loving daughter. Never spoke with her since. Demanded that the rest of his clan "Not' to have anything to do with my grandmother. My mother was "Never " excepted by the family. That story is still alive until this very day. Plenty more stories to say reqarding the birth of my mother. And the pain my grandmother had to in dored after the birth of my mom. A story of racism that should be shared. Texas/USA 🇺🇸

@@Gabby14597 My goodness I'm so very sorry to hear this. People had such strange views on race those days. So sad your grandmother had to suffer so much because of colour prejudice. I come from a south Asian country and we have always had people of different colours and religions. So religion, not colour plays a greater role in my birth country and similar stories are told, but because of religion. I do hope your mother was able to lead a less painful life. One hopes this business of looking only at colour and race will disappear entirely with time and education. It's what is inside a person that is important, not the black, brown or white colouring. We should treat All people with respect. I wish you the very best today and always.

That’s terrible and so is he. She deserved better.

He married a Swedish ‘supermodel’ and they were miserable together. Karma?@@rhonda6791

Why would you do that? The man is the one who proposes marriage and whatever his reason for not doing it has really got nothing to do with anyone. And how would anyone even know that at all. 🐝

Read'The other side of the Moon ' Sheridan Morley

@@amandadassonville4043Your logic fails you. Just as a man has a right to not propose marriage based upon his racial preferences,she has every right to judge that criteria and in turn show her disdain and lack of respect for the reasonings. She is not declaring that he cannot make that decision or hold that criteria. As well he could not declare what opinion she can hold. Both are freedoms.

I read that

His book was adapted into a television miniseries in 1987 with Phoebe Cates.

@@bluekitty3731 Missed that one. She did go to extraordinary measures to hide her background.

Wow!!! I remember a television movie based on that...QUEENIE!

Saw the tv serie. 🧡

You mean she was raped? Whats with the langauage changes I see in social media? Unalive? As in dead? Pregnant people? You mean pregnant women?

"Touched without consent" gets past the RU-vid censors.

Doesn't censoring the word rape seem like erasure of the reality of people's experiences? Maybe just me. But all this trigger warning and language erasure seems, in its own backward way, fascist

Yes, darker skin on a woman in Asia usually meant you were a laborer and worked in the fields in the hot sun. The higher class you were was the lighter you ended up being because you didn't have to do that to exist. You would also have servants, etc...In their culture, the higher class you are , the more seemingly beautiful you are. It's an antiquated notion now, but many still live by these ideas of what beauty is.

@@TheLoveweaver you Asians are still spewing that myth that the sun makes you dark skinned?

Pfft you're not that special

@@TheLoveweaver I was truly surprised that it mattered to them.

@@user-Jfjd638bdj82 Bless your heart, never said I was, was just relaying a situation that surprised me.

Actually Brazil imported more black slaves than any other country. That’s why there are so many black people.

So in Brazil if you're half black you're considered white if you're skin is on the light side. But who cares, I love honey olive colored skin, and black is beautiful....see through white skin with purple veins showing not so much. I like to look past the color and straight into the beauty that is present in all of us.

In fact look at the folks in DR and Columbia and of course Cuba!

and especially on Tiktok...they love to call all people of color regardless of origin on there, white, lol. I've seen people get bullied on there for just stating their heritage, even if it's obvious. And Brazil being predominantly African doesn't surprise me, because the brazilians I grew up around I kept mixing up with other Carribean people lol.

You never saw "Wuthering Heights"? A true classic!

ohhh, thanks for the extra🫖🙌🏼🫶🏼

What's next Betsy Ross was black now too

Please know the difference between race, nationality & ethnicity....geez

0r Aretha Franklin 😮

She did videos on both !

Omg me2!

​@@Sunflowers_220really did she state that she found out their both white.😂

Exactly! I feel like when it comes to the male stars people would often overlook at their career risks simply because they're men and they need to "man up" but look at how Karine was so sympathizing with Merle and her career risks? The thing about Merle is, she really was embarrassing about her background. She had a chance when she was older to at very least privately acknowledging her siblings when they wanted to see her but she didn't. Time changed significantly in the 70s than in the 30s. She strongly lied not just to the world but to herself till the very end. I truly am surprised at how she kept the lie going when she was older because her skin pigmentation was showing more than ever and it was obvious she was brown. Not tan but brown. There was a photo of her sitting next to Greer Garson and Rosalind Russell and she stood out. I don't know what happened to the skin bleaching but it didn't work in her favor at all when she was older.

My Anglo-Indian grandma was asked to say she was Portuguese, if anyone askedxx.

There's LOTS of stories like this. Many whites and blacks went across lines. I know a few whites with light skinned grsnnies

She was good movie was lacking. Only was half the book. Yeah the movie was a book first😮