Meshuggah Metal Riff Lesson Part 3

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On May 1, 2008, when Swedens technical metal giants Meshuggah came to New York on Ministrys C-U-La-Tour, guitarists Fredrik Thordendal and Marten Hagstrom (above left and right, respectively) stopped by MetalKults Manhattan headquarters for a video interview and riff lesson.
Meshuggah were also touring in support of their latest album, Obzen, which was released on March 11 on Nuclear Blast.
In this rare footage, the guitarists talk about their eight-string guitars, extraterrestrial solos, challenging polyrhythms, and time-signature misconceptions, before demonstrating how to play some classic riffs from their catalog, including Rational Gaze, Bleed, Electric Red, Pravus, New Millenium Cyanide Christ, The Mouth Licking What Youve Bled and Future Breed Machine.
Check out all this death-tech goodness below!

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@chriscoooley 15 лет назад

man their guitar tones really compliment each other for the perfect 8 string sound

@Xaer_ 7 месяцев назад

3:30 oh yes!

@alistairdimmick2886 4 года назад

I like how the views scale down from 500k to 332k to 146k for part 3, because people realise over the course of the videos they still have no idea how to do it like meshuggah.

@shoooey 15 лет назад

7:37, "in reality that should be like...". Haha, I like that those guys refuse to stay in reality.

@Alexander_Tronstad 4 года назад

lol

@jameschauvet3140 4 года назад

shoooey lmao!

@DanXile 8 лет назад

Concatenation is the perfect example of when things are too fast and the details are lost. The slower version on Rare Trax is crushing.

@holygroove2 7 лет назад

Yes, but the fast version is mind blowing. I personally am glad that both versions exist because no one would believe that the version on Chaosphere is all in 4. The whole freaking song is in 4, and the slow version proves this. That's why I can't do without either version.

@Meshuggapeth 5 лет назад

DanXile I prefer the Rare Trax Concatentation with the Nothing vibe too

@VVarat 5 лет назад

The problem is not that the song is too fast, the problem is that your ears sucks.

@bmw_m4255 2 года назад

its not too fast. IT's perfection.

@kevinsuarezmacena1003 5 лет назад

Now I want a slower and groovier version of New Millenium Cyanide Christ, thanks Mårten.

@Justinzorn907 12 лет назад

The whole time Fredriks like "I WANNA FUCKING PLAY!"

@theronianquad637 2 года назад

I KNOW RIGHT?!😄

@Surisis 15 лет назад

I swear that when i heard pravus i could hear the in between rhythms. If you don't know Meshuggah's style then it's hard to hear but I would vouch for all Meshuggah fans on this one. We hear you.

@OHBJJ9634 3 года назад

I heard it. I learnt that by ear 😂😂

@FRANK45CASTLE Год назад

Man do these guys just crush, simplicity of riffs, heaviest most technical drums, best band ever. I could listen to these guys riff all fuckin day

@StewTheTrue 14 лет назад

I'm Swedish! Lets keep making our revolutionary viking metal!

@eskeknas5540 6 лет назад

Penn & Teller does metal.

@jameschauvet3140 5 лет назад

Eske Knas lmao

@mortenhansen3455 9 месяцев назад

To you who posted these videos. THANKS! It just goes to show how hard it is to play the drums! THANKS a million!

@memalley 5 лет назад

I hear it, dont worry

@MatheusMPL 7 лет назад

These guys are awesome, taking regular patterns and messing with them, making them more complex and unique.. that's why I love their music!

@faselblaDer3te 13 лет назад

I love these videos!!! So great!

@psilicybin666 11 лет назад

Awesome to see them play this stuff.

@davianmoua3888 7 лет назад

dam you guys really change the metal world for sure dammm thank you

@holygroove2 14 лет назад

Love how they show what they do without a technical explaination. They come at it from an artistic veiwpoint, talking about the sounds, and grooves rather than the math involved. It's really important to have them on here correcting mistakes that people have made while transcribing their music! If I played guitar I'd want to know what they actually laid down.

@trivrock2k6 12 лет назад

Reading that helped me learn to play it, I totally understand the structure now haha, cheers.

@bom2 15 лет назад

Pravus is such an amazing song.

@specialblend2786 15 лет назад

Yes sir, I'm with you on that one.

@New_Millennium_Cyanide_Christ 15 лет назад

I like meshuggah so much becouse this band is so unique in it's way to create music.

@SergioChongLoo 11 лет назад

And let's not forget the insane long scale (29.4"), a huge difference compared to conventional guitars (24 3/4" or 25.5")

@IndigoRoses7 14 лет назад

their guitars are so beautiful...Icemans are pieces of art

@holygroove2 10 лет назад

Always something to learn - the chromaticism in New Millennium Cyanide Christ is something I didn't hear in on Chaosphere at all. I thought the first parts of that riff were all one note! Wow!

@holygroove2 12 лет назад

Now that I am familiar with most of their music, these lessons are really great. I actually hear the Pravus details that he's talking about from the CD...I'll have to check out the Alive DVD to see if what he's saying is true. Sometimes it may not be heard, but it's still felt. These little details make them who they are.

@Purkinje90 14 лет назад

Opeth's from sweden too! Meshuggah rules.

@jimzeez 7 лет назад

I feel so bad for him when he says his rhetoric about why they write things if no one hears it XD he almost sounds so crushed. little character quirks in songs like that are my favorite part of them, and it even bothers me when my friends don't hear them cause they don't listen attentively.

@holygroove2 7 лет назад

Be patient with your friends, and be glad for your ears. The fact that the two guitarists had and interview about this issue means that MANY people don't hear what you can hear, you are rare. There are still riffs that throw me off with this band, and I LOVE being thrown off while simultaneously knowing that it's all in 4. I wouldn't say that he's "crushed". I think he takes pride in what the band produces.

@jimzeez 7 лет назад

I've no doubt they're very proud. It just came off as funny as first haha. As far as (some of) my friends go, they aren't all as interested in music as I am so they don't listen as attentively. To be expected.

@holygroove2 7 лет назад

Yes, to be expected. You bring up something that I didn't think about - you're sort of saying that the character of the musicians actually shows up in their sound. That's an interesting thought with Meshuggah for sure.

@Phybia 8 лет назад

5:13 THALLS

@iAmPesukone 12 лет назад

No probs mate, glad I could help.

@harrymanbach 14 лет назад

@Floorsnarl "i'd stand on that !"

@Convisis 11 лет назад

Fred is a fricken alien, his playing is so on point it's ridiculous.

@harrymanbach 14 лет назад

@blackseeds666 edge III ,it's very stable,it locks like a floyd rose but it's got a large bolt that adjusts the angle of the bridge plate and keeps it from moving

@12disneyhater 12 лет назад

damn i wanna learn to play guitar now so bad

@AnimeishDwarf 13 лет назад

They are so awesome. 2:23 is the beset comment ever. Shows they are totally down to Earth.

@SeanStephensen 14 лет назад

2:23 HAHAHA

@holygroove2 10 лет назад

If they came out with a version of New Millennium.... that was as slow as they play it on this video (at one point) it would be super funky.

@HorrorMaci 13 лет назад

1:39 I hear it in the song! And those notes makes that tune sick :)

@PredicateWinning 8 лет назад

7:36 at 0.5 speed is the best thing ever

@MixYourWay 5 лет назад

lol that YEAAAHHH......yyeaaHHH....(8) lol

@fredmachine 11 лет назад

Yes. The last item in the list (followed by a smiley) is what gave the comment a light-hearted touch. I'm sure you know how people say that tone comes from your fingers. So the last part was simply acknowledging that Meshuggah are quite talented and rather unique, so that even with the exact same equipment it would be hard to sound like them. And of course it was exaggerated to say that their skill is inhuman as they are quite obviously human.

@pegatrisedmice 11 лет назад

i've heard these details in pravus but not in concetenation until i heard a remix :D since then, i love the original..

@fredmachine 11 лет назад

Yeah, they use those now. Although for recording Koloss they just used them as an interface and used VST Amp Rack for the guitar sound.

@TheChrispablo 12 лет назад

some people still dont get it: their fav. bands band IS Meshuggah

@micahgillis666777 2 года назад

I love how they broke down the rift and New millennium cyanide Christ

@supah1337B 14 лет назад

"And then you wonder why the fuck someone would do something that stupid when nobody hears it anyway." haha Best band ever

@zhamoua 5 лет назад

THE TWO MONSTERS OF RIFFS FROM HELL

@TheOrangeFondler 13 лет назад

When he said Tom Bananza, my first thought was "hmm, who is that guy?" LOL

@Jath2112 4 года назад

I can't help but think that I'd love to know dudes like this. Just go hang out and suddenly it would be 6am and there'd be some insane riff affecting my behavior for the next week... go back to hang out and there would be new thing added ...repeat... probably fun as hell to talk about ordinary shit too.

@ikariss77 13 лет назад

@supah1337B yup. sometimes it's just about the details that make it challenging and fun to play, even if nobody knows it's there

@bradleyrock4602 15 лет назад

they have the single most monsterous tone ever!! Fuck its so heavy!!

@chessmastir 12 лет назад

"And then it goes to the end part... tada... puf."

@pepogunz 6 лет назад

4:39 " TA TA, PUF "

@TyShredder 14 лет назад

Really? Nothing and ObZen are two of the most creative, ground-breaking albums in metal.

@ecaepevolhturt 14 лет назад

@Garell2 Makes sense. They should let him explain how he plays in Swedish and then give him subtitles (in the video). Thorendal's playing blows me away, truely inspiring.

@mistamontiel 15 лет назад

I liked the intro of Pravus..the shit I blast all the time has to be Pineal Gland Optics, definitely my favorite from obZen, I'm so pissed I didn't see them play it here and I don't see them live here either !! wahhh

@SergioChongLoo 11 лет назад

And let's not forget the insane long scale (29.4")

@oceanmachine1906 3 года назад

The Torah of modern metal

@Si-Al-Ti 13 лет назад

NMCC is heavy in that slow tempo!

@Fleischmahn 13 лет назад

@mangosnake Fredrik is a machine after all..

@Xaer_ 7 месяцев назад

1:16 ”thame Thing” Yeah I understand.

@npnaia 11 лет назад

Ah, right... and it cuts in the 3-1 before the guitar only part x)

@zieglurski 14 лет назад

@MrBoffom yeah it would

@underscoreisnotvalid 15 лет назад

2:28 hahaha fredriks laugh!!!

@drumskinninja 12 лет назад

eight string iceman...fucking SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@DivBMesa 14 лет назад

i like the par that starts at 2:11

@BlGTlMBER 14 лет назад

3:32 FUCK YAH!!!

@koumik 15 лет назад

Fredrik : The Silent Killer..

@harrymanbach 14 лет назад

@Floorsnarl i'd stand on that!

@iAmPesukone 11 лет назад

Pravus main riff.

@DivBMesa 13 лет назад

god, i need to know how they make these sick sound. do they use a pedal or? would be kind to answer me.

@jebslept8515 5 месяцев назад

0:54 concatenation correct way to play

@selfrighteous88 15 лет назад

=)) 2:25 amazin.. they really love their music

@yesfan157 11 лет назад

We could combine specifics into a variable called: Optimally-designed 8 string guitars.

@TakiCyke 10 лет назад

Thordendal is the one on the right, Hagstrom on the left. The "about" tab is wrong.

@Sepreturex 10 лет назад

your left or my left, and ı dont know anything about this right you talk about.

@mvunit3 9 лет назад

gececiyim89 - RIiiiigggght . . . left?

@JimDarkmagicThe4th 7 лет назад

Well they did say most meshuggah tabs are close, but wrong

@thesm1l3y 14 лет назад

2:22 LOOOOOOOOOOOL XD

@Zeta9966 15 лет назад

Pravus = best song on the album

@lethargicastengah572 11 лет назад

and Cubase 6

@tehhhhhd 12 лет назад

It's not stupid! It's the details that differ good technical songs from GREAT songs, in my opinion.

@yesfan157 11 лет назад

The only reason I replied in the first place was because there was an apparent chance that you actually thought that their skill was unachievable; as such, I wanted to be certain that you knew that that was not the case at all. I wanted to implore you to believing the fact that you can reasonably achieve that which they have done. Go forth, bearer of light.

@holygroove2 13 лет назад

@thegr8HarV - I think they purposely use simple 3 or 4 note fragments. The notes trick the ear into thinking that they're using some weird meter, when they really aren't. There are a many songs where the notes they use are important - check out Closed Eye Visuals and Rational Gaze. I think they are all around the best. Go back and listen to Contradictions Collapse, and Destroy Erase Improve. They've covered a TON of ground already.

@Pantera4Ever1 13 лет назад

"Sparse is good Have You heard ACDC??" HAHA

@doktormoney 2 года назад

the face you make at 3:34...

@Blargaha 14 лет назад

@uberhalla i'm not him, but the advantage is that you can tune the guitar much lower. With a baritone you can easily get down to G tuning for example.

@deadsoundradio 15 лет назад

2:20 LMFAO!!!!!!

@edmega332 15 лет назад

2:27 Fredriks only public statement. EVER. \m/,

@trippyturtle777 3 года назад

Hahahaahaha

@yesfan157 11 лет назад

"Ha-ha...he..heee.."

@MonroeVallejo 11 лет назад

And Axe FX.

@Guitarmazdur 13 лет назад

@iShawn95 like its Ibanez's choice? they cant make a custom model for an artist without the artist's permission :P maybe these guys would prefer to have guitars that are totally unique. from their perspective, wouldnt that be kinda cool?

@earsBLEEDmetal1 14 лет назад

Haha Marten's funny :D

@barfymann362 13 лет назад

1:00 sounds alot like Rocket Skates by Deftones. Understandable though..Steph draws a huge influence from these Guys. Go MESHUGAHHHH!! \m/>

@Abdouliia 10 лет назад

they said it on Part 2 mate " we don't use Pedals "

@xXxThelegend27xXx 6 лет назад

Every time marten stops, Fredrik keeps going, lol

@theronianquad637 2 года назад

Fredrik really wants to play! 😄

@MortonGoldthwait 12 лет назад

Call me crazy but the way they both layer off eachothers riffs reminds me allot of KoRn.

@AJGNW 15 лет назад

En, Två, Tre, Fyr ;D

@tehhhhhd 13 лет назад

@Bastianbatero En, två, tre, fyr ;)

@metaldemonseanknels 14 лет назад

@TyShredder fuck that! more like in music in general! hail meshuggah! i'm getting an 8 string soon! hell yeah! i still agree with what you said though lol horns up!