Message of Calvinism = LORDSHIP SALVATION! (FBCT Dean, Peter Amato) 

This man's testimony is the same as mine! I got saved after reading Romans 4:5! I realized at that moment that I was believing a false gospel. I am no longer a Calvinist, Praise God!

This has got to be the most amazing sermon I've ever heard. Wow. This guy is preaching truth!

The believer on the Cross next to Jesus was told by Jesus that Today you will be with me in Paradise!!!! Wonderful Sermon!!! He sure didn't have time to do any works!!!

Thank you. It is difficult because so many preach a gospel of works of repenting of doing. The works I am saved by are Jesus's works on my behalf. Thank You Jesus. Amen.

That little bit about standing before God, and being refused admission, because all I did was believe was brilliant. I was free grace before, but since hearing that, every time I begin to doubt it, I will think about that. Thank you, and the good Lord for that!

Where was this message in the late 90's when I was struggling with Calvinism philosophy that was dropped on me? I struggled with this for decades until I came across Chuck Missler's "Sovereignty of Man" presentation. Neither Calvinism or Armanism is totally correct, the truth lies weaved in the middle. God is sovereign, but God gives his people free will, but also consequences that go along with it. Ultimately mankind chooses sin, which is why we need a saviour who saves us fully by His grace, not by our works, so that no one can boast.

Wow. Amazing sermon. This guy needs his own show!! Set it up Yankee!!

Lordship Salvation is LOADSHIP DAMNATION.

Lordship Salvation advocates need to drop their self righteous attitude and Believe The Gospel

6:32 "The message of Calvinism is: "Believe to bear fruit", not "believe to be saved", because that's what their goal is. Their goal is: Let me look and see: do you have fruit? Because if you don't have fruit, you're not saved." That's a perfect description of a Paul Washer sermon.

John MacArthur and other Lordship Salvationists are condemned by the very verses they quote in Matthew 7:21-23 and they don't even know it. They believe that those verses are "proof" that one can be a false believer by "not doing the will of the Father", but they fail to define the Will of the Father... In Verse 22, we see the condemned appealing to Jesus by LISTING THEIR WORKS THEY DID IN HIS NAME! So the question that begs to be answered if they did many wonderful works in Christ's name yet were rejected, how can anyone be accepted if John Mac and others are telling us to do the very things that Jesus said were INSUFFICIENT??? There were those who came to Jesus and asked Him what work they must do to inherit eternal life, and Jesus replied "This is the work of the Father, that ye believe on Him the Father has sent". This is why those in Matthew 7:21-23 were condemned. They NEVER trusted Christ for their salvation, but their works. Not once did they mention in verse 22 that they trusted Christ.

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 This is stellar! Praise God for you! I'm adding this to my playlists! I'm glad I'm not the only one who's spiritual ears perked up hearing the Calvinists' confusing gospel. Oh, but, poor Todd Friel & Justin Peters & John Piper & Ray Comfort & Paul Washer & Jack Hibbs & John MacArthur ...and their flocks! Please, let's PRAY for them & SHARE THIS with them & their followers!!!

Great stuff! The ONLY purpose for Calvinism is to damn souls to hell!

Its believing just like a child!

The apostasy in this world when I finally saw it it was like a light went on I was a Pentecostal for almost 10 years I was in the whole spiritual movement and it was just a giant Colt I believe in the Lord but I didn't know the Lord I would sin then ask for forgiveness and sin and ask forgiveness I felt like I wasn't good enough and it pushed me into apostasy Mohr and Mohr until one day A friend of mine said hey you know you can't lose your salvation after that the Lord went to work on me and I trusted in the finished work of Jesus Amen and I rest in him😇😢😭😊

Bless your heart Pastor! My testimony is yours. I was truly delivered by the grace of God from the heresy of Lordship salvation. Keep up the freeing messages. I would have been on my way to hell, too.

Sadly most if not all congregations here in the Philippines teaches Lordship salvation without even knowing it.

BELIEVE.

Powerful testimony sir I was initially introduced to Christianity believing I had to be good to go to heaven. I really never even thought that it could be this simple! I know I caused myself much agony worrying if I had been good enough or not. Thankfully I was led to the simple gospel of grace online and I got born again the second I read it and believed. Sadly most people don't escape it and will become part of the many saying Lord lord

Watching from Thailand. Thank you for peaching the truth

Thank you! Everything you said is so true.... First time I read about Calvinism the holy spirit put a red alarm on my readings 😉

This is also what Greg Laurie and Calvary Chapel teaches.

Very good. Well said! Thank you! Greetings from a frenchie from Canada!

I have not met one single Calvinist that responds to scriptures. Why is that??

These Lordshippers would make excellent used car salesmen. They have a forked tongue, and are masters of double speak.

🔝God can't lie, therefore we who believe him will inherit the new earth and rule with him forever. Amen. The gospel is the best news ever.

Satan loves Lordship Salvation

I believe that by being born again we receive a perfect new nature from God. I've been through this myself. When I repented of all my sins, the Holy Spirit opened up my conscience. My heart was torn, and I have experienced a Divine sadness. I was drenched in tears! I begged for mercy, and then Christ set me free by His Spirit. Heaven tore open and an unbelievable power entered me. The Lord literally took up all my sins and cast them into a sea of ​​everlasting forgetfulness. I got a new conscience! The sins I saw so clearly were gone. I dug in my conscience but couldn't find it anymore. The outpouring of His love, grace, peace, rest was Heavenly and inhuman. Not to be carried in an earthen vessel. I walked on a new Heaven and a new Earth for weeks. I literally experienced the peace and rest that will preserve your heart and senses. There was no longer a possibility to sin! And I believe that God's children will soon be standing before God in such a nature.

Calvinism is the epitome of Satanic evil. Check out what the following Calvinist apologists had to say regarding sin and evil: 1) Loraine Boettner - "Even the fall of Adam, and through him the fall of the race, was not by chance or accident, but was so ordained in the secret counsels of God" - In his book, "The Reformed doctrine of Predestination, page 234 2) Jerom Sanchius - "Surely, if God had not willed the fall, He could, and no doubt would, have prevented it; but He did not prevent it: ergo, He willed it. And if He willed it, He certainly decreed it." - In his book, "The Doctrine of Absolute Predestination" page 88. 3) A.W. Pink - "Plainly it was God's will that sin should enter this world, otherwise it would not have entered, for nothing happens save as God has eternally decreed. Moreover, there was more than a bare permission, for God only permits that which He has purposed." In his book, "The Sovereignty of God" page 147, (1961). 4) A.W. Pink - "Not only did His omniscient eye see Adam eating of the forbidden fruit, but He decreed beforehand that he should do so." In his book, "The Sovereignty of God" page 249 5) Edwin Palmer - "It is even Biblical to say that God has foreordained sin. If sin was outside the plan of God, then not a single important affair of life would be ruled by God." In his book, "The 5 Points of Calvinism" page 82 6) William Shedd - "Nothing comes to pass contrary to his desire. Nothing happens by chance. Even moral evil, which He abhors and forbids, occurs "by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God." In his book, "Calvinism: Pure and Mixed, page 37, 1986. 7) J. Gresham Machen - "All things including even the wicked actions of wicked men and devils -- are brought to pass in accordance with God's eternal purpose." In his book, "Christian View of Man, page 46, 1965. 8) William Shedd - "Sin is one of the "whatsoevers" that have "come to pass", all of which are "ordained". In his book, "Calvinism" Pure and Mixed, page 31, 1986 Calvinism makes God the author of sin and evil thereby exonerating Satan and man and is a direct attack on the true nature and character of God. The "God" of Calvinism is not the same God of the Bible.

There are Bible believing evangelical Christians who say they’re a 3-point Calvinist, i.e. of the 5 petals of TULIP, they don’t prescribe for sure to the “L” = limited atonement; and “P” = perseverance of the saints, but they believe in the “T”, “U” and “I”.

It’s helpful to hear him say “I can’t tell you what my salvation experience was..” as he goes on to explain being in his office and realizing that he’s believed wrong his whole life. As someone coming out of a life of Calvinism and Lordship teaching/believing as well - a recurring question I’ve had has to do with one’s day/time of salvation. I’m hearing things like “if you don’t have a specific date of salvation you probably haven’t been saved yet”. Many people can recall the very day and hour of their conversion with confidence shouting “that’s when I know i was saved!”. It just causes some confusion for me.

EXCELLENT MESSAGE!!!

Amen! I thought this was a very good, down to earth message. Thanks!

I believe so many churches are muddled with threads of Calvinism even though we don't realize that we are. I grew up in the south in a Pentecostal Church and it was very legalistic they would not have considered themselves calvinist by any means but there was a tremendous amount of fruit that was expected. People were always judging other people based upon their actions. If you say you got saved this week next week you were supposed to be a perfect role model.

Calvinism is new Catholicism 2.0!

Brilliant message. If I share only one message with my Calvinist friends, it will be this one.

Wow.. This video is amazing..Thank you..

Almost my testimony word for word. But I did know that I was saved. I knew that I would answer God with, "Jesus died for me, that's all I got" But I still carried all the guilt. I was waiting for that "born again" experience. I had left the "church" and knew this was true. But it took Yankee's confirmation for me to accept it. I praise the Lord for Yankee!

Great Message 👍

As good as Dr. Yankee's message! Thanks!

Jesus saves and your works condemn

Thank you

The TULIP is one of Satan's favorite flower.

14:40 just had that exact moment about a week ago!

Thank God for this preaching.

The calvanists use the same lingo as a true believer but without warning will hit you with works and try to justify it as faith but their is no faith in the flesh the faith is in the lord.

I use to listen to JM and I would begin to doubt my salvation. Then I found Yankee…..PTL!! So is John McArthur truly saved?

Any idea how can I save our church from lordship salvation/calvinism? Our church was unfortunately infested with LS/calvinism virus and it's hard not having a church family. The only way I can think of is having an opportunity being a speaker on a sunday service which might be difficult for me having a high-functioning social anxiety.

Excellent! THANKS!!!

Sermon is good as far as it goes but the real problem with Calvinism is very simple: it's blasphemous at its very core. The fundamental blasphemy is the claim that if God is not in absolute control of *everything* in the universe, then He is not sovereign and therefore cannot be God. Not only must this deny the existence of free will, by the same token it must automatically lead to the conclusion (which honest Calvinists often reach) that God Himself has to be responsible for sin. That's the inescapable end of the chain of reasoning and everything else, including the false gospel of back-end "lordship" [works] and God lying about who He really intends to save, flows from that satanic slander of His character.

Calvinism prevents you from freely choosing to submit to the Lord Jesus Christ, because it has been determined for you whether you will or not. That is a doctrine of men that robs you of the choice which is the crux of the Gospel call.

People who embrace Calvinism/Lordship Salvation have no assurance of their salvation. They have to wait until AFTER they die to find out whether or not they "made it into the Kingdom". Here is what 2 of the biggest names in Calvinism/Lordship Salvation had to say about their "assurance" of salvation. RC Sproul and John Piper who are among the biggest names in Calvinism have no assurance of their salvation. Calvinist/Lordship Salvationist R.C. Sproul is known to express fear over whether or not he's "saved". Sproul stated in Table Talk Magazine, Nov 6, 1989, page 20, he says, "There are people in this world who are not saved, but who are convinced that they are. The presence of such people causes genuine Christians to doubt their salvation. After all, we wonder, suppose I am in that category? Suppose I am mistaken about my salvation and am really going to hell? How can I know that I am a real Christian?" "A while back I had one of those moments of acute self awareness that we have from time to time, and suddenly the question hits me: "R.C., what if you are not one of the redeemed?" What if your destiny is not heaven after all, but hell?" Let me tell you that I was flooded in my body with a chill that went from my head to the bottom of my spine. I was terrified." "I tried to grab hold of myself. I thought, "Well, it's a good sign that I'm worried about this. Only true Christians really care about salvation. But then I began to take stock of my life, and I looked at my performance. My sins came pouring into my mind, and the more I Iooked at myself, the worse I felt. I thought, "Maybe it's really true. Maybe I'm not saved after all." "I went to my room and began to read the Bible. On my knees I said, "Well here I am, I can't point to my obedience. There's nothing I can offer, I can only rely on Your atonement for my sins. I can only throw myself on Your mercy." Even then I knew that some people only flee to the cross to escape hell, not out of a real turning to God. I could not be sure about my own heart and motivation. Then I remembered John 6:68. Jesus had been giving out hard teaching, and many of His former followers had left Him. When He asked Peter if he was also going to leave, Peter said, "Where else can I go? Only You have the words of eternal life." In other words, Peter was also uncomfortable, but he realized that being uncomfortable with Jesus was better than any other option!" Then we have John Piper who also has doubts about whether or not he's saved and also regarding his congregation's uncertainty of their salvation. He made this statement in his sermon entitled, "Why God is not a megalomaniac in demanding to be worshiped" - Nov 20, 2008 in Providence, Rhode Island. Piper says, "I deal with this as much as anything, probably, in the people that I'm preaching to. "Fears and doubts, doubts not about objective "Did He rise from the dead?" - very few people are wrestling with that - but "Am I in? Am I saved?" That's very common for people to wrestle with." "But why I sin against my wife the same at age 62 that I did at age 42 causes me sometimes to doubt my salvation or the power of the Holy Spirit. - This question is not theoretical." My comment - The utter fear and uncertainty that Calvinism/Lordship Salvation produces in people who embrace this false doctrine regarding their assurance of their "salvation" can only intensify and drive them obsessively and compulsively to try even harder to "stop sinning" and to keep doing and doing "good works" in commitment, obedience, perseverance, faithfulness, etc, etc, in the hopes of "making it into the Kingdom at the very end". It literally becomes a vicious circle, much like a "bionic hamster" that keeps going and going, and going on that metal thing that they run on in their cages. It's utter insanity. It's obvious in Piper's and Sproul's minds that Jesus simple promise/simple truth of John 3:16, John 5:24, 6:47, John 10:28-29, Romans 8:38-39, is a subjective thing and not an objective one. It's always based on what they observe in themselves in their "evidence" of their faulty works, and not on Christ's perfect FINISHED WORK and guarantee of eternal life and eternal security. Calvinists/Lordship Salvationists are no different from the Puritans of long ago where many of them were in utter fear and anxiety on their deathbeds not knowing whether or not they are going to heaven.

The guy that was next to Jesus on the cross believe on the miracle of Christ as messiah, Jesus reply to him that he will be on the paradise with him. Did that man on the crucified next to Jesus has a moment to bear fruit to prove his salvation? NO! He was saved by faith only. I was a prisioner of Calvinism and now the assurance that is within me is more powerful than the worries of fruit and works, thanks to who? Because Jesus has done it for me, it his promise that now is within me, his Holy Spirit.

The Calvinists get away with their lies because people are lazy and don't read the Scripture. I was not saved until I was 46 and God gave me 2 GREAT mentors that instilled in me YOU MUST READ THE BIBLE EVERYDAY. EVERYDAY! When I have questions I have multiple resources to choose from. Easy peasy.

Did the thief on the cross do works?

Good explanation of the evils of the Calvinistic false theology.

I believe that when someone who truly trusts and believes in Yeshua (Jesus) is naturally going to want to do good works out of gratitude 🙏🏽

I once fell into calvinism. Really, less about works but more about unconditional election etc. Here is the issue with that: If God's Sovereignty meant absolute control, the way they believe.. then man WOULD be with excuse. After all, if you were non-elect.. it would be UNJUST to hold them accountable in ANY WAY. After all, man being stricken with depravity.. our rebellion/sin, AND rejecting the Gospel would be ORDAINED by GOD. According to Calvinism, nobody can even RESIST God. Yet Stephen makes clear the Israelites kept RESISTING the Holy Spirit. So um, yes.. Humans CAN resist God. Not because God isn't all powerful, but because God MADE MAN with a WILL.. and does not violate it, as that would violate God's own decree for such. God IS Sovereign.. and in His Sovereignty, He decreed man to have agency and will.. I don't get why this is hard for many to grasp, this is the same God who created the heavens and the Earth with his words.

No we don't both believe that salvation,s by....GRACE....!!!...We believe that Salvation,s BY...GRACE to any & all who BY Faith alone CAN receive Christ as Saviour...!!!!....Catholic Calvinists..believe Salvation is by GRACE...IF YA ELECTED...& Ya can't be " Elected..." unless ya been...Regenerated by God first...all their Salvation BY Grace & our Salvation BY Grace is not the same not by any stretch...folks

"A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." God chooses but you must choose also.

So this guy is saying Calvin taught a works salvation?

Great message. Did you check it out Ames? Free gift, thank you Jesus.

Jerom: NO GOD did not will the fall he gave free will to disobey or not. Adam and Eve choose to disobey Why did God say "what is this that thou has done",not you did what I willed or planned?.

very good testimony.

Lordship salvation is the common denominator in ALL works based religions

Hi my siblings. May I kindly ask you all something which I believe is important. Mustn't we stress to our brethren that: yes, we must repent of our sins consistently and avoid sinning, NOT to be saved, but out of our love and gratitude for Yahushua HaMashiach (Jesus) and because we decided to receive Him as the Lord of our life? It does sound like it is legalism if we repent and repent and avoid sinning, to be saved. Only Jesus saves; our own repentance and avoidance of sin cannot save us. Still, continually sinning and being a lukewarm Christian are good indicators that a person might not be a true Christian. So we use these to check ourselves. However, we must emphasize that we do this regular repentance and avoidance of sin NOT for salvation. Otherwise, we are not putting our faith solely on Christ's finished work on the cross. Yet, this is not a license to sin either. What do you think, my siblings? Can you please help me? I humbly ask this out of my love for all of you.

The way i usually put it is this. If a Calvinist would use early church fathers to prove the existence of Jesus and his godhood like polycarp or clement instead of Calvin, then why would they believe Calvin over Polycarp or Clement about freewill theology? They were the ones who knew the apostles or at least students of them. Thats as close to the horses mouth as possible.

I used to be a Calvinist. If you are a Calvinist ask yourself three questions... 1. is the premise of the gospel salvation from the wrath of God? 2. Given the Calvinist view of predestination and election, was I (being "saved" or "elect") ever in danger of hell? 3. Taking into account "total inability" of man to believe and the Calvinist doctrine that salvation precedes faith, what must I do to be saved? If faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, and John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Could it be possible that God in his sovereignty decided that the conditions by which he would save whosoever is that they hear the gospel and believe it???

Loraine it was not by chance or accident, it was by free will choice. God told them not to eat of that tree, was God joking knowing he had planned it, THINK?.

Calvinism and arminianism void of 2nd Timothy 2:15. Church the body of Christ gets its Doctrine from the Apostle Paul, 1st Timothy 1:16 Romans 11 chapter verse 13 to 14 .

Calvinists are living rent free in these guys heads.

The following quotes come from eminent Calvinist apologists that show the connection that Calvinism has with Roman Catholicism. If you were to do your own research, the best you could do is go to history books, interview scholars and "theologians" in Calvinist and Roman Catholic circles, public libraries, journals, etc, but there is no way you can take a time machine to go back in time to verify your research. 1) Richard Muller - "John Calvin was part of a long line of thinkers who based their doctrine of predestination on the Augustinian interpretation of St. Paul." In his book, "Christ and the decree" 1988 page 22. 2) Alvin Baker - "There is hardly a doctrine of Calvin that does not bear the marks of Augustine's influence." In his book, "Berkouwer's Doctrine of Election: Balance or Imbalance" pg 25. 1981, 3) Gregg C. Singer - "The main features of Calvin's theology are found in the writings of St. Augustine to such an extent that many theologians regard Calvinism as a more full developed form of Augustinianism." In his book, "John Calvin: His roots and fruits" , 1989, pg. viii 4) B.B. Warfield - "The system of doctrine taught by Calvin is just the Augustinianism common to the whole body of the Reformers." In his book, "Calvin and Augustine", page 22, 1956. 5) Loraine Boettner - "Calvin and Augustine easily rank as the two outstanding systematic expounders of the Christian system since Saint Paul". In his book, "The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination" page 405, 1932. 6) John Calvin himself - "Augustine is so wholly with me, that if I wished to write a confession of my faith, I could do so with all fullness and satisfaction to myself out of his writings" In the book, "Calvin's Calvinism:"A treatise on the eternal predestination of God" written by John Calvin in 1552, Translated by Henry Cole, page 38, 1987. 7) B.B, Warfield - "Augustine is in a true sense the founder of Roman Catholicism" In his book, "Calvin and Augustine" page 313, 1956, It was Augustine who invented his own twisted interpretation of "PREDESTINATION/UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION" in his book, "City of God". Augustine states,"That owing to one man all pass into condemnation who are born of Adam unless they are born again in Christ, even as He has appointed them to be regenerated, before they die in the body, whom He predestinated to everlasting life, as the most merciful bestower of grace; whilst to those whom He has predestinated to eternal death, He is also the most righteous awarder of punishment." - "The City of God" On the Soul and its Origin - 4.16 Again, it was Augustine who invented "IRRESISTIBLE GRACE" in his book, "The City of God" - "On the predestination of the saints" -7, 8, 16. Augustine errantly believed that the will of God became the cause of all things - In his book, "City of God" - under "Enchiridion" - 95, 96, 100, 101. Augustine errantly believed "that no man is saved unless God wills it." In his book, "City of God" - under Enchiridion - 103. It was Augustine who invented what is now known today as the 5th point of Calvinism which is "PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS": Augustine states, "We, then, call men elected, and Christ's disciple's, and God's children, because they are to be so called whom, being regenerated, we see to live piously; but they are then truly what they are called IF they shall abide in that on account of which they are so called." In "City of God" - "On Rebuke and Grace" - 22. Augustine states, "It is, indeed, to be wondered at, and greatly to be wondered at, that to some of His own children--whom He has regenerated in Christ--to whom He has given FAITH, hope, love, God does not give PERSEVERANCE also." - In his book, "City of God" - "On Rebuke and Grace" - 18. Augustine states, "But they who fall and perish have never been in the number of the predestinated." - In his book, "City of God" - "On Rebuke and Grace" - 36. Augustine errantly believed that salvation can be lost and he taught that only those who are regenerated by God and PERSEVERE, or in those that have lost their salvation that only after they "persevere" that the grace of regeneration is restored, are finally saved. - In his book, "The History of Christian Doctrines" - Louis Berkof - page 136, 1937. Now, does that not sound like what Calvinism currently teaches? Augustine's version of "predestination", "irresistible grace", and "perseverance of the saints" sounds identical to what MacArthur, Piper, and what Sproul teaches which are 3 of the biggest names in Calvinism/Lordship Salvation today. Are they not? Is that not what Calvinism teaches? Calvin's idol was definitely Augustine.

Yes. It is only by faith that we are saved, nothing more. It is neither by works, nor can we keep our salvation by works. Once saved, always saved. It is by faith alone, by grace alone, and in Christ alone. However, if one claims to have faith in Jesus but cannot surrender his life to Him, despite Jesus commanding us to make Him our Lord, does he truly have faith in Jesus? Or does he trust/believe in himself rather than Jesus? If one trusts/believes in himself over Jesus, then most likely he keeps the control over his life, he cannot submit his life to Jesus because he does not trust Jesus. He trusts himself more. On the other hand, if someone GENUINELY trusts/believes/has faith in Jesus, then he allows Jesus to be the Lord over his life. God bless everyone.

Question, who is that guy in your thumbnail?

Charles Spurgeon said “a nickname for Calvinism is Biblical Christianity”

John Calvin falsely taught that God is the author of sin and evil. 1) "Thieves and murderers, and other evildoers, are instruments of divine providence, being employed by the Lord himself to execute judgments which he has resolved to inflict." From Calvin's "Institutes of the Christian Religion" - Book 1, Chapter 17, Paragraph 5. 2) "The devil, and the whole train of the ungodly, are in all directions, held in by the hand of God as with a bridle, so that they can neither conceive any mischief, nor plan what they have conceived, nor how muchsoever they may have planned, move a single finger to perpetrate, unless in so far as he permits, NAY UNLESS IN SO FAR AS HE COMMANDS, THAT THEY ARE NOT ONLY BOUND BY HIS FETTERS BUT ARE EVEN FORCED TO DO HIM SERVICE." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 17, Paragraph 11. 3) "I admit that in this miserable condition wherein men are now bound, all of Adam's children have FALLEN BY GOD'S WILL." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 4. 4) "The first man fell because the Lord deemed it meet that he should." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter, 23, Paragraph 8

Yeah...if God does not change your life...am willing to bet that the person who sees no change in their living most likely was not born again(I will bet pushups). 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Also go look at James 2 The Holy Bible: King James Version. (1995). (electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version., Eph 2:10). Bellingham WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

If you truly believe you will ,depend on and cleave to christ ,faith will produce works with out human effort ,

John Calvin the heretic did not get his version of "predestination/election" from the Bible, but he borrowed that twisted concept from Augustine the heretic who was Calvin's idol. 1) ....."salvation is freely offered to some while others are barred from access to it." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion - Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 5. 2) "We call predestination God's eternal decree, by which he compacted with himself what he willed to become of each man. For all are not created in equal condition; rather, ETERNAL LIFE IS FORE-ORDAINED FOR SOME, ETERNAL DAMNATION FOR OTHERS." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion - Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 5. 3) ..."we say that God once established by his eternal and unchangeable plan those whom he long before determined once for all to receive into SALVATION, and those whom, on the other hand, he would devote to DESTRUCTION...he has barred the door of life to those whom he has given over to damnation." - John Calvin - Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 7. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "That owing to one man all pass into condemnation who are born of Adam unless they are born again in Christ, even as He has appointed them to be regenerated, before they die in the body, whom He PREDESTINATED TO EVERLASTING LIFE, as the most merciful bestower of grace; while to those whom He HAS PREDESTINATED TO ETERNAL DEATH, He is also the most righteous awarder of punishment not only on account of the sins which they add in the indulgence of their own will, but also because of their original sin, even if, as in the case of infants, they add nothing thereto. Now this is my definite view on that question, so that the hidden things of God may keep their secret, without impairing my own faith. - Augustine, City of God, On the Soul and its Origin, 4.16.

Calvinism loses fairness in God's sovereignty. To be fair, God gives man a choice as is said in this video. God tells us what the consequences are and allows us to choose life or death out of fairness and love. Love is free to choose.

As a non-Calvinist: I am a new born Christian (Pentecostal) and as such I deeply detest and hate Calvinism/TULIP heresy but I love Calvinists and pray for their conversion and for them to come to Christ for deliverence from Calvinism!. Obeying and been faithful to God are NOT works!. The Angels of God respect, obey God and are faithful because they love Jehovah God and not because they want to earn salvation , they don't need to because they ARE NOT lost sinners like us. Are the Angels of God doing WORKS by obeying and doing what God commands them to do to earn something back from God?. No, the Angels OBEY God's commands and will because they LOVE God and they aknowleged that God is LORD and WORTHY of PRAISE, ALL GLORY, and WORSHIP! When we call on the name of Jesus Christ to cast demons out , do the demons OBEY Jesus Christ and come out because it is a WORK to obtain something back from God (not to be sent to the botomless pit) or is it because the demons MUST comply and aknowledge Jesus Christ as LORD?.They comply because demons MUST aknowledge Jesus Christ as LORD and they MUST OBEY God or else, they don't have other choice but to COMPLY because EVERY TONGUE must CONFESS that Jesus Christ is LORD!. Why did the storm obeyed Jesus Christ when Jesus commanded the storm to stop while He was fishing with Peter and the apostles?.The storm stoped because ALL creation is under Jesus Christ LORDSHIP and MUST OBEY His commands!.It would be foolish/silly to imply that the storm OBEYED Jesus commands as a WORK to obtain something back from Jesus. Sorry but obedience to God as a way to show respect/love because He is LORD and worthy of ALL GLORY ,PRAISE and WORSHIP and to do works to obtain God's approval (rightiousness) and salvation are two completely different things!. I obey what God (The Holy Spirit) has commanded in the Bible for the body of Christ to do (Paul, Peter, James and John epistles) not because I want God's approval, to be saved, or as gratitute for what He has done at the cross for me.Same as God's Angels, I obey Jehovah God out of respect, love and as to aknowledge that God is LORD and worthy of ALL GLORY, PRAISE and WORSHIP.We must love God with all our heart, mind and soul but TO LOVE GOD IS TO OBEY HIM !. In Galatians 2:20 I stand with Paul , I no longer live but it is Jesus Christ that lives in me. I don't live the life I want to live , I LIVE the LIFE JESUS CHRIST WANTS ME TO LIVE!!!!!.

If you dont abide in christ ,you will not have fruit ,if your born again ,you will not love sin ,belief is a clinging to a system of dependance ,which will produce works ,if you dont have fruit you are cast into the fire

You are a slave to whatever controls you...sin unto death or obedience unto righteousness. Where is the freewill, if man is slave to one or the other? As born again..we are either controlled by flesh or controlled by the Spirit. To whom we offer our bodies to as living sacrifices. To work in us and through us.

"If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come." 2Cor 5:17. Don't let this man or anyone else convince you that you're a Christian if your life is unchanged. "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Mat 7:14. That is NOT salvation by works. It just means that when Jesus saves a person, he genuinely changes them.

This man doesn’t truly understand Calvinism Many of the early church fathers were Calvinistic in their beliefs The puritans , the first Baptist’s , and many others.. In simplest terms Calvinism is this, “ask your self , are you saved? Who saved you God or yourself? Did he do it on purpose or by accident? There you have it .. in my years of studying Calvinism I never heard lordship salvation concepts taught.. Consider the book of life , names written in it , before the earth , predetermined salvation , that’s Calvinism....

+20july1944 Jesus never used the word " FORMERLY " in what he said. Jesus said this.... But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

This may sound heretical, but its not enough to believe what Jesus did on the cross. You must believe IN Jesus and have faith in his blood. And you must be fully persuaded of that like Abraham. Romans (3:24-26/4:21-25)

I passionately reject Calvinism. All 5 points all day long. Having said that it’s clear that this man does not have a full understanding of what Calvinism is. He’s created a straw man. He apparently does not know that there are Calvinists that reject Lordship salvation as much as their are non Calvinists who embrace lordship salvation (which I am one). I rejoice and lift high the lordship of Christ. You can’t not receive Him as Savior yet reject Him as your Lord.

I hate lordship salvation it teaches law keeping for salvation which is a false gospel that I will always reject

I am not a Calvinist and I thought it would be a cold day in hell before I defend John MacArthur, and my remonstrance to you has nothing to do with Calvinism. You say "the Bible doesn't say that if you don't have enough fruit you're not saved" and you have some verses about faith alone, no question. However, Jesus had about half a dozen different plant parables about "fruitless" plants (e.g. Sower Parable, Wheat/Tares, Barren Fig Tree) being gathered and burned or making the Vintner angry "why does (the fruitless fig tree) take up the ground?" Now, since Jesus is The Reason For the Season and it stands to reason that God might actually be looking for something more than a moment of genuine faith followed by a lifetime of indifference or being distracted by "the pride of life" (Sower Parable, soil type-3, which had no "fruit" and I believe was lost) you can't really say "The Bible" doesn't say that if you don't have enough fruit you're not saved because Jesus sure warned about "fruitlessness" several times and even killed a totally innocent fig tree because it was "fruitless" even though it was out of season. So, I suggest you be modest in making strident "faith alone/OSAS" claims and suggesting everyone else must be misinterpreting "the Bible".Certainly it would be God's "will" (preference) if we would all be perfectly obedient after being saved, so to use that verse in John (that God's will is that all who believe will be saved) is misleading, because clearly God's preference for us is total obedience and if not, a real struggle with sin and to make Him Lord of our lives.

this guy is false the Spirit changes u when u r born again

Lordship Salvation is LOADSHIP DAMNATION.