META Analysis: How MUCH Agility Should You Run? | Deepwoken

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An interesting development in the meta as a result of tap dancer reworks, dodge changes, and META stat allocation is an increasingly unclear status on how much agility you should run. People have pretty conflicted opinions on this, so in this video I'll be sharing my opinion on the topic. Let me know which stat investment you usually run on agility, or if you change it on a build by build basis.
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0:00 Intro
0:12 Stat Checkpoints
0:22 25 Agility
0:52 40 Agility
2:08 65 Agility
2:55 My Answer
3:54 Outro

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10 июл 2024

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@Lyprin64 4 месяца назад

spiders try not to upload a highly educational and well made video that helps the community a ton challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (he is the goat)

@SpidersDW 4 месяца назад

😆

@Neox_0 3 месяца назад

yo its you

@M8theone 3 месяца назад

So true

@pokohoko9575 3 месяца назад

Zip it up when you’re done (I agree with you)

@Coconutssss1 3 месяца назад

@@SpidersDWwhy don’t u talk about steady nerves

@Mrerickismyname 3 месяца назад

Yo as someone who just started getting into deepwoken for the first time, this type of insight helps a ton. Hope you make more for reach stat

@eversinze 3 месяца назад

you should do these sort of videos for all the other stats aswell, i feel like this would be very helpful for newbies with build making and explaining what talents you get from certain stats

@yellowjackx5996 3 месяца назад

W vid. Also pairing blade dancer gives you infinite rolls, because will negate the base tap dancer nerf. I used to run ghost a lot especially for layer 2, and one build for pvp, but I found out that I'm really giving my opponent a break as well. Also you can easily fill your specter gauge close to max if you roll cancel twice on a sightless beam. Don't sleep on 25 agl.

@arch197 3 месяца назад

Ty spider for making the gale guides and this

@indieexboyfriend 3 месяца назад

Also worth noting that 65 agility gives you access to muffled screams, which is maybe the second or first best grip-based card (yeah yeah reaper I know)

@Note28712 4 месяца назад

another high quality deepwoken underrated RU-vidr

@thehexofficial 3 месяца назад

I'd like to add that it's sometimes better to use ghost on builds with a slow swing speed because without it, it's significantly harder to maintain your posture since if they decide to attack after you roll you are left with way less options and can't simply m1 them first.

@GoatLadyOnTheInternet 3 месяца назад

Honestly, I always run 40 Agility if I can, Ghost is just too useful to give up for me. You get the option to completely reposition yourself mid-fight multiple times with no penalty, not to mention being able to cancel the i-frames early to catch your opponent off guard. It's especially fun to do this kind of thing with Frozen/Burning Servants, as Risky Moves keeps you safe from another hit while your opponent has to parry the Servants AND deal with the fact that you're right up against them

@inFayt_Lies 3 месяца назад

As someone who mains 1h gun, I'm practically forced to take Ghost to take advantage of the s for reloading.

@oriionkekg 3 месяца назад

*laughs in metal stick mantra*

@celenial6009 3 месяца назад

Ghost got cooked to 20 seconds

@N_L_M 3 месяца назад

You never disappoint me W video

@user-hh4nh2zj1t 3 месяца назад

ghost for silentheart is a must otherwise u can catch ur enemy off guard i prefer obs safety on everything else tho even if i slightly roll earlier than needed the bonus s can save me

@TeeTheDolphin 4 месяца назад

I always love going 65 agility as it give me lots of speed and it's the way i like since verse 1,especially with galebreath and when verse 2 release with jetstriker i just always have 65agi jetstriker+gale in on of my slots

@abyzzals3847 4 месяца назад

25 agil is also conditioned runnr

@recarotti2868 3 месяца назад

now I can send this video instead of trying to explain to a stubborn mule that ghost is not needed, you can run a good build without ghost and having good stats is just as important as synergy

@entuire5582 3 месяца назад

I’ve gone with ghost ever since the changes on tap dancer

@Kiuujin 3 месяца назад

Love the vids and i hope they keep coming, do u think u can make more masterclass gale vids?

@Matteo.C 3 месяца назад

Also 25 agility for conditioned runner so it is also even more important than just for speed demon and roll cancel talents

@celenial6009 3 месяца назад

Spine cutter

@deltaow 3 месяца назад

Congrats on 4k 🥳

@M8theone 3 месяца назад

I almost always go 65 but Ive started going 25 recently

@eatmynutsarchmage4883 3 месяца назад

oh also speaking of agility a video comparing ghost / observation and safety dance and how they affect your playstyle would be great

@asliddinfrl 3 месяца назад

could you make this type of content for other stats, it would be insanely helpful

@hoksus1322 Месяц назад

more of this aswell please

@Horizantle 3 месяца назад

25 for observation safety dance condition runner and others or 45 bloodthirsty if youre running a bleed dmg/posture breaking build and steady nerves and level 3 revenge

@mr.loutre8265 3 месяца назад

Thank you, i've gotten so much better at the game since i started watching you (gale main too) i recommend going 30 agility for gale and or thunder build for Aerogliding and Static Fakeout

@celenial6009 3 месяца назад

Aerogliding is useless

@mr.loutre8265 3 месяца назад

@@celenial6009 useless in chime but in overworld it's fun And i'm not a sweat..

@celenial6009 3 месяца назад

@@mr.loutre8265 astral wind, wind passage both negate fall dmg

@celenial6009 3 месяца назад

While aerogliding u can still take fall dmg and it’s slow and 🗑️

@mr.loutre8265 3 месяца назад

@@celenial6009 You don't take fall damage if you time it right, and it's THE POINT to slow you down, so you don't take fall damage. But of course if you use it without timing it it's useless.

@ignite5407 4 месяца назад

Personally I always get exoskeleton, thus run ghost too so its a good tradeoff

@LandonUhh 3 месяца назад

tapdancer and air counter are both 60 agility but I would still go 65 for cheap shot

@Kuroxa 3 месяца назад

You forgot 25 for spine cutter and conditioned runner, two of the best talents in the game.

@dontdabplease7747 3 месяца назад

Tap dancer doesn't work after the new dodge nerf that made the second dodge have a cd of ~2.5 seconds I've tested it with a friend, and if you wanna make sure yourself test it.

@romankogtx 3 месяца назад

I mean if ur running shadowcast, 25 is the max u should get, considering that u have to get a dark rift, which is a Lil worse ghost.

@lemonleaks3672 3 месяца назад

please make a video about strength and willpower as well.

@Sam-mb5zf 3 месяца назад

do the next videos on other stats too

@whatmate3978 3 месяца назад

I personally would say 40 is the best for pvp build wise and if you really need salvage 15 points you can always shrine of order which I always do after getting conditioned runner which you can get at 25 agility. Either way deepwoken is a block dodge and parry game depending just on dodging will not be enough. but ghost is very useful for trickery most definitely when you have a speed boost along with it making it look like your teleporting.

@drifter2391 3 месяца назад

I do wanna mention that ghost is mid if you're high investment shadow. Since Dark Rift is literally just ghost but stackable with observation and safety dance.

@srpeanuts 3 месяца назад

not even just high investment shadow, you can go 60 and shrine away most of that

@prodby.gyxrms 4 месяца назад

Make one of these for every stat pls do a strength one on the next one or fortituse

@srpeanuts 3 месяца назад

i recommend going fortitude post shrine because every 2 points of fortitude is 1 hp, so going post shrine 40 fortitude (for exoskeleton, which is a must have) you get 10 extra hp than if you got it pre shrine but there are some circumstances to get it pre shrine

@Jack-iw6lo 4 месяца назад

spider your videos fill me up like no other

@lilbroomy8437 3 месяца назад

Good vid but I feel like you're underrating cheap shot a bit, goated talent imo, 10% pen on all your attacks is crazy, granted you need a speed boost but so does speed demon

@Iamserious0715 3 месяца назад

W music taste

@oDevilie 3 месяца назад

After this week’s nerfs might gon have to address this 😭

@lam.hg06 4 месяца назад

Can you make a curved blade guide? Like when to use the crit and 2 hand or dual wield typa vid

@SpidersDW 4 месяца назад

not a bad idea, I might do something like that

@batslc 4 месяца назад

your editing is super clean

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

thank you bat ! 🙌

@Kye--- 3 месяца назад

Everything is dependent on your play style, of your a passive player and don't go up and close very much, go 25, if your pretty close up type if player but not really aggressive to your enemy or do a lot of pve go 40, and 65 if your really aggressive, up close alot and don't run much, it apply really good pressure with tap dancer and especially cheap shot, I love 65 agility purely based on cheap shot, thats my personal opinion

@kirbycoolguy1918 3 месяца назад

Personally on most of my "Good" builds (can carry in 1100 elo) I go 65 agil for cheap shot and shrine down to 40 agil since i use 6 eru 6 vit on my builds and my mantras dont get a permenant +50% pen without songchant

@thenecromancer9859 3 месяца назад

They made astral not be able to be made fast with rush shards anymore

@_edited_ 4 месяца назад

Tap dancer + observation makes steady nerves better

@RadiantCloudSky 3 месяца назад

its... alright I still prefer ghost over it

@redtemplar1028 3 месяца назад

Idk Ive always ran 25 since I dont really like ghost, and 40 more invested points for cheap shot and air counter just dont feel worth it.

@justzorua4444 3 месяца назад

Or the fourth freak option 90 😰

@Nochit 3 месяца назад

0:07 65 agility is cheap shot 60 for tap dancer and people are more likely gonna go air counter over tap dancer

@swaggybwunny6793 3 месяца назад

Is it worth goung 45 agility instead of 40 for blood thirsty?(gives speed boost when u blockbreak someone)

@foodoftherinnegan1583 4 месяца назад

Ngl 65 is still worth it I have noticed it mainly because I am bad at pvp but still

@sonkat721 3 месяца назад

btw they made it so you start with tap dancer awhile ago!

@kokok00 4 месяца назад

what editor do you use now? still cant believe youre mac gaming still

@SpidersDW 4 месяца назад

I use premiere pro, have a pretty sweet deal from my school so I get it for free

@Nahos_ 3 месяца назад

25 for spine cutter too

@col2308 2 месяца назад

strenght next? or mabye all of them?

@ananasik3082 3 месяца назад

Short answer from avg player - 40 is enough

@sinisterstink6730 3 месяца назад

so are we just forgetting that blood thirsty exists too?

@WaitingForWaves__ 4 месяца назад

spiders my glorius gale trainer

@shoebillenjoyer5674 3 месяца назад

holy moly… spidersdw! hip hip horray!

@momo8700 3 месяца назад

tbh i always went 65 for air counter

@vknizok5041 3 месяца назад

how do u roll cast?

@stanleyjiang2244 3 месяца назад

Spiders has lost his umbrella 🗣️🗣️🗣️

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

yup you got it xD

@thecomet653 3 месяца назад

One thing you forgot to mention is the kyrstear, which is literally just a better parrying dagger As a light player its usually worth it because with the new parry stun changes its not that noticeable to med players but for light players playing against heavy, it's just so cancer to play against (imo) I literally have a clip of me parrying a crypt blade and then perfect casting into jolt grab back, then he just hits me through it

@tarn6862 4 месяца назад

I just go 40 agi for con runer am not pvp player but I like pve

@Koogis_ 3 месяца назад

Air counter is busted.Not op but I land a lot of free hits on accident

@Sayonara_WNC 3 месяца назад

i like to run 20 agility a lot but to be fair its mostly because i focus on my mantras rather than the cookie cutter like parry trade playstyle so the m1 dmg that i could get from speed demon usually goes into neural overload or something like that

@bonjovi2492 4 месяца назад

Do you think that running 60 strength pre shrine is viable for a blunt damage weapon build?

@uzigamer3iii867 3 месяца назад

What blunt talents You get at 60 str?

@bonjovi2492 3 месяца назад

@@uzigamer3iii867 Shield breaker, ur blunt damage ignores the posture gained from shields

@yellow5071 3 месяца назад

@cartoon32369 3 месяца назад

I run 40 cuz im a silentheart main and i kinda need 40 agillty

@widedog3861 3 месяца назад

you could try to get 75 (50 post shrine) charisma pre-shrine (I know, heavy investment) for stuff like unnecessary theatrics, narcissist/tough love, chaotic charm and manipulator, and then get 25 agility at some point

@mono.09 4 месяца назад

Is that my goat SpidersDW also known as SpidersSpiderSpider or LegacyOfEpic who I've fought a multitude of times in chime???

@SpidersDW 4 месяца назад

omg is this the one and only coolgamerguy111 aka mono ?!? :OOO

@mono.09 3 месяца назад

@@SpidersDW

@menacingplatypus8547 4 месяца назад

25 all the way 🔥🔥

@bigfish48 4 месяца назад

How do you learn when to roll cancel and when not to

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

default to roll canceling in PvP since rolling normally has really bad downsides, mainly the huge endlag that stops you from doing anything. Only roll if you have a reason to/need the extra dodge frames

@kenjo7170 3 месяца назад

Get ghost then shrine down to 25

@anthonyx4228 4 месяца назад

if im gale what do u reccomend me some talents need 30 agility i think

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

the ones mentioned in the vid (speed demon, observation, safety dance, fast blade, etc) + all the gale agility talents

@shadey_z 4 месяца назад

well if you are running flame with a bleed weapon and only warding radiance 20 is good

@MrSogggE 3 месяца назад

but why not go five more for just more damage overall

@shadey_z 3 месяца назад

bleed doesn't work with speed demon

@MrSogggE 3 месяца назад

@@shadey_z not many weapons have bleed, and if you specifically know your going a weapon without bleed it’s optimal

@shadey_z 3 месяца назад

me who specifically stated "bleed weapon"

@Gowthy 4 месяца назад

what’s better 25 int or 25 charisma on med gale build

@SpidersDW 4 месяца назад

25 charisma imo since charm is really strong

@user-ww7si3dw3c 4 месяца назад

Now do the same for intellitence 😈 Make overflowing damn popualr again lol

@SpidersDW 4 месяца назад

if this vid is well received probably will do

@owldubs 3 месяца назад

deepwokens best attunement spiderweaver cuz the ball can spin and twirl and do thunder kick into one combo

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

would be sick

@JeYuEven 4 месяца назад

I wanna master gale like you spiders

@SpidersDW 4 месяца назад

keep training! 🙌

@JeYuEven 4 месяца назад

@@SpidersDW I will try my best!

@reisenfer1 3 месяца назад

Hey Spiders i wanted to ask 2 questions. 1. Is Curved blade of winds better thsn than the Gale Hero blade? I was planning on doing a dual attunement build with Gale and Shadow. 2. Many people seem to default to using specter on their Gale build. Is it really that strong now? I know that it got buffed recently. Also how do i use phantom step properly?

@Kiuujin 3 месяца назад

He already made a vid on that

@tyrone82266 3 месяца назад

is pursuit any good

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

it’s good but not worth the invest most of the time

@rinjiyn 3 месяца назад

BUT SPIDER SENSEI... WHAT ABOUT 100 AGILITY ?!?! 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

🔥🔥

@srpeanuts 4 месяца назад

wouldnt it make sense to just go 40 agility preshrine because you get ghost and the 25 agility talents?? your going to be giving up those extra points if u shrine properly

@SpidersDW 3 месяца назад

sure if you want but on a lot of builds it’s more stat efficient to just go 1 agility pre-shrine and then get 25 agility post-shrine which is what makes the choice between 25 vs 40 agility matter

@srpeanuts 3 месяца назад

@@SpidersDW if your going everything pre shrine they maybe but if your only going stuff like dazIng finisher, overflowing dam and unwavering resolve then you'll end up with like 28 agility or something, which i would say for 3 post shrine points ghost looks real nice

@yellow5071 3 месяца назад

Depends if you can fit it in the build or not

@kirito-78 3 месяца назад

tap dancer is 60 🥺🥺

@Pawdapatrol 3 месяца назад

W arañas

@eaaaaaae 3 месяца назад

tap dancer is 60 agil

@KarmaAnims 3 месяца назад

Doesn't apply to Deepwoken batman

@Basilll 4 месяца назад

Erlier I ALWAYS did 40 agility for evading ethirone's ult lol, i wasnt so skilled to dodge it properly, but i was enough skilled to beat him with ghost. But now I do 25 agl at most builds