Imagine playing ball with someone in college and twenty years later you hear that he became a politician and died fighting some cyborg mf while using nanomachines
I think it's the only game I played that shoves a policial debate in your face bringing Armstron's neoliberalism vs Raiden's protecting the weak ideals, but making it amazing and unforgettable by the best among reasons
@@abysswatcher9172 I think so, I think he was more concerned over diplomacy but I heard about neoliberalism a while ago so I guess it was stuck in my head
@@lucky6961 Yeah no. I don't really think neoliberalism is about "the land of the truly free" " Where every man can fight his own wars" "People will kill and die for what they believe. Not for money. Not for oil" "The law changes for the individual not the other way around"
Almost a decade later and Armstrong is still a huge meme, and every thing he says just hits even harder. That's how you know Revengeance is truly an immortal masterpiece
@@tylerjohnson4830 he's really not, take a look at the health bars. After the shirt comes off he has 200% health, meaning that that first bar that u punched was his shirt's health
This game got shadowed back in 2013 and always lurked around in mgs memes, I love that 9 years later it's getting all the recognition it deserves, truly a fine wine
"Every line in this game should sound cringey, but in the actual context, it sounds so cool" Charlie basically summed up the writing of the entire MSG series
The second Mistral fight helps show how far you've come and how much stronger you've become in both upgrades and skills. The second Monsoon fight is also there.
You can tell this game was rushed because it lacks polish in certain areas, but it's still so amazing and really a testament to what PlatinumGames can do. It's also the most coherent rendition of the metal gear lore by far, and it cuts back on the most confusing and silly aspects of the previous games to make a world that actually feels somewhat serious.
Just to be clear for Sam's augmentations-- prior to his encounter with Armstrong, he had 0 augmentations. He was a normal flesh and blood human in a performance enhancing exosuit (which might be why his DLC is so hard-- enemies hitting harder and faster may be because he lacks the artificially enhanced reaction times and durability of Raiden). After Armstrong stabbed (and practically severed) his arm, it was replaced with a cybernetic arm, making is the only augmentation he had. This means the guy solo'd both Blade Wolf and a Metal Gear Ray with no augmentations, and nearly defeated armstrong-- something Raiden barely managed at his peak.
If you think about it Sam actually could've gotten worse with his new cybernetic arm because of muscle memory and how he would have to get used to his new arm and stuff
They need to make more badass games like this, just wacky over the top insanity the entire time, every enemy looks super cool and the cinematic combat is a pleasure, always wondered why the metal gear solid games were never like this one.
Because this game is a spin-off hack n slash game, not like your traditional stealthy metal gear solid game with a groundbreaking story that makes you question things. Not at all saying rising’s story isn’t great either.
@@arrogantlobster3270 Your 100% correct my friend, I enjoyed snake eater and guns of the patriots, those are the only ones I played, would have been awesome for them to make a Rising 2, its good that they can separate the 2 genres
I think the point of the Sam DLC being "harder" and everything in it being "faster" is that Sam is entirely human at this point, the enemies aren't faster or tougher than when you play as Raiden, Sam just genuinely has no cybernetic enhancements
Its also designed in a much more confining way, playing as sam is much more methodical with very weighty decisions and way less player freedom. Its a parry and charge attack fiesta and not playing the base game on revengeance will ill prepare you for that. A lot of people who avoided rev difficulty dont know that it cranks the absolute shit out of the parry damage and will do things like 1 shot jetstream sam. I wouldnt say its harder, just deceptively different.
@@superluigi6968 yes, completing the game on revengeance is a completely different experience. Parries are king and sam eats dirt before the first chorus. Getting the thundergod achievement(all s rank, all hidden fights, revengeance is a completely different experience too because of wigs, hidden ranked fights you backtrack for. Nonsense ranked fights with rocket launchers and helicopters that get you that 0.1 percent stray damage while youre infinite wig b:ing trough everything(no damage is a requirement almost) like its nothing. The only hinrance is bullshit like that and the bosses.
@@superluigi6968 i don't think it was intendented but because parry damage has a very high cap and the damage enimes do is increased damage parries go from doing decent damage to cutting health bars in half
@@Liamx-00 The last one that does that is DMC V and it came out half a decade ago. Man, I really want more wacky hack n slash with ridiculous story like these games
No this is waaaay too over the top for me lol. At least for like mortal kombat, it doesn't take itself all that seriously. This is like the opposite where it's 20% funny 80% serious
I love that there is "Blade Wolf", "Mistral", "Monsoon", "Sundowner", "Armstrong" and then just fucking Sam. One of the coolest characters and probably my favorite boss fight and his name is just Sam
It took me way too long to notice that after catching Sam's sword against Armstrong, Raiden says "Okay, let's dance." the same line Sam said before their fight and even takes the same fighting stance as him. Also Sam just effortlessly bodying Metal Gear Ray and ending it with one singular quick big boy slash when Raiden struggled and had to fight it twice is just so badass. This game is so fucking cool.
My favorite is that lyrics for the Sam fight are playing from the very start of the fight, which is normally a phase 2 kind of thing, because you already had phase 1, in the prologue.
It’s interesting. Sam cuts Raiden with the same technique he uses against Armstrong only when he cuts Raidens arm off the stump is flat while when he cuts off Armstrongs his arm is cut at an angle. Kinda showing how Sam learned to cut arms flat after Armstrong stabbed him with one.
44:49 Originally, Sam was fighting to avenge his father's death at the hands of a drug cartel (he ran a martial arts dojo before his murder). Using the family blade, the Murasama, Sam cut down his killers, and later went to dispense justice as a vigilante of sorts, being called *Minuano* (the cold wind of Brazil). He later decided to go after Armstrong for sending men to die for reasons unknown to them, but after his fight with the Senator, Sam instead joined him. During his time with World Marshal, Sam had lost sight of his original ideals instead fighting for the sake of fighting, but after watching the dedication Raiden had to saving the brains of the children, he began to question what he was really doing. The reason he had fought Raiden in the Badlands was to rediscover his ideals. His theme song during the fight reflects all of this: A man who's lost sight of his reasons to fight and who has replaced them with how he fights, represented by his blade. The bit with no lyrics (or when you knock away his sword), represents how this final fight makes him feel alive and human again. For a moment, he not only thrives in the heat of battle, but he actually rediscovers his original ideals: to fight for justice and keep soldiers from being sent to fight in wars they don't believe in, seeing these ideals in Raiden. He doesn't need the fight itself as his reason to fight anymore when he has his original ideals in hand. The final verse shows Sam's reflection during his time with World Marshal. He had spent so much time thriving on bloodshed, climbing the ranks and becoming a Wind of Destruction that he had forgotten why he fought at all. This is why he is testing Raiden: if Jack's resolve is great enough to beat Sam, then it will be sufficient enough to defeat Armstrong as well. He was checking to see if Raiden was worthy enough as his successor (Think Bruce Wayne passing the torch of Batman to Dick Greyson (Robin), except the test is killing each other).
I remember being 7 and playing this. I struggled so hard with Armstrong and popped off so hard that I cried when I beat him. I was like a whole celebration. It was 2 am and everyone in the house was watching. I felt like I was the best. I then played the game over and over again on the hardest difficulty until I could play it without getting hit. Good times
@@_buildblok85_my mom and dad let me play gta when I was literally 4 with my brother and continued to let me play it growing up, I loved the games but holy shit yeah those weren’t good for kids
I really hope they start making games like this again. There was a golden age before mobile gaming, where graphics were getting amazing, but now all games are taking up the mobile model of pay to win, and I can't think of anything now that actually tries. I really miss how gaming used to be.
You should get into indie games, there are some really passionate game developers that make outstanding games. There are even some indie games that surpass AAA games tenfold. I would reccomend undertale, hades, terraria, dead cells, stardew Valley, ultrakill, oneshot, a hat in time, celeste, and many others.
Sam's suit isn't cyborg enhancements. It's more of an exoskeleton to boost his physical capabilities. His right arm is his only inorganic body part, because of Armstrong fucking up his normal one at the end of the DLC.
The amount of interactivity this game has is wild. Like the attack where Armstrong throws stuff at you, you can just avoid that completely by running. It's pretty linear with progression but feels more open than most modern open world games.
Senator Armstrong despite only appearing in the last few minutes of the game, manages to be a compelling and memorable boss. Not only that but the memes from this game are still going. Wish there was a sequel
Sam being such a hard character to play makes sense when you remember he doesn't have any cybernetics. Which just makes his boss fight with Raiden that much more impressive, since he's kicking your ass with *nothing.*
@@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561 Logically his strength should be enhanced somewhat to not easily get overpowered by Raiden. Man can throw a metal gear into the air after all
Im *standing* with everyone that says this game is a masterpiece, after i *realised* that most *people that are just like me* think platinum games are so good they can stay alive for all of *history* . But who am i to judge *whats right from wrong* .
I just now realized that the bike that Raiden steals belonged to Sam. That explains why Sam wanted to fight Raiden, he was angry at him for taking his bike.
@@user-fv9er3by5n its right though in the sam DLC (which takes place before the main events), sam leaves his bike where raiden picked it up. sam was just angry that his bike got stolen.
I think what makes sam my favorite is that “we’ve both heard enough speeches by now” because every single other metal gear game (including this one) is jam packed with characters monologuing about their ideals
Memories broken The truth goes unspoken I’ve even forgotten my name I don’t know the season Or what is the reason I’m standing here holding my blade A desolate place Without any trace It’s only the cold wind I feel It’s me that I spite As I stand up and fight The only thing I know for real There will be blood- -shed The man in the mirror nods his head The only one Left Will ride upon the dragon’s back Because the mountains don’t give back what they take Oh, no, there will be blood- -shed It’s the only thing I’ve ever known Losing my identity Wondering, have I gone insane? To find the truth in front of me I must climb this mountain range Looking downward from this deadly height And never realizing why I fight
For that part at 8:06, I like to think Sam was just wanting an excuse to spare Raiden so he could get stronger and face him again later. Truly the Goku of cyborg samurai.
finally got around to playing this game today. As I was playing it, I realized I had seen every major fight or cutscene as a meme or in a video at some point in my life. Crazy how a game I had never played ended up being so familiar and nostalgic
"Metal Gear Rising is a masterpiece" *Ahh yes, the floor here is made out of floor.* No, seriously, I can't believe how well the game holds up and my god, those realistic, gory cutting mechanics...
Using analog as one of the button to parry it's a best design in action game ever. It's felt much better than just tap 1 button , direction just give me sense of immerse in characters like you actual moving thier arm not just game script
I only got this game because of this video and the boss themes, after getting it and playing through it I never had this much fun on a single player game in ages, it was difficult to get used to the mechanics at first but over time I got used to them and I was just waited for the next boss fight to start. After playing the game I can safely say that it truly is a masterpiece.
This game is so fucking cool. Everything from the music to the combat and the bosses. The story is goofy as hell but it doesn’t shy away from it like when raiden seethes with rage because wolf won’t shake like a dog.
Basically every metal gear solid story lol, mgs 3, and 5 tries a rather serious tone in story, but they still manage to crack up some goofy things here and there, Revengeance just went full comedy mode in almost every aspect and i fking love it
"He was gonna end war forever" No, he wanted to end war *as a business*, but also create a society where everyone can kill each other because they themselves wanted to instead of because their country told them to.
@@sasdagreat8052 That's kind of what lawlessness is, innit? Near as I can tell, Armstrong dreams of a world of people with individual power persecuting those without it and fighting each other in a free-for-all - mistakenly thinking that everyone loves combat. Anarchy. It's not authoritarianism, because that involves controlling people and forcing troops to fight for you, but rather some sort of anarchy with no organized governance to "tell people what to do". There's a reason he's not running with that as his political platform: it's unpopular. Very few people like the idea of anarchy. Most of us appreciate some kind of government, either because it benefits society as a whole, because it benefits our tribe, or because it benefits specific individuals (dictators). Armstrong sees peace as boring (celebrity bullshit); to him, life only has meaning in the individual struggle for survival, and if people aren't struggling to survive, by god, he'll *make* them struggle.
@Aquarium Gravel Yeah, I guess what Armstrong meant by "the strong" isn't necessarily physical strength, but strength of will. It just so happens that in video games those often overlap lol.
The way this game cuts the music actively is so cool, so if you are about to finish off a boss the music always cuts to the most climactic part of whatever banging tune that's playing and always seems to end at the just the right time when you finally dispatch the boss.
30:44 I like how Monsoon just immediately gains the power of the chop chop fruit, swords just don't affect him anymore. Hey, he even sounds like a clown at times too.
@@aesthetic3355 I mean they tease sunny. So who knows, maybe? Also when did she stopped preparing eggs for Otacon and work for Space Agency or some shit.
Finally a huge RU-vidr like charlie giving this masterpiece the respect it deserves. Yes, memes are funny and this game has birthed some good ones. But this game is unbelievably fun. With an awesome ost.
"He coulda been dual wielding weapons with each half of his body" That's a real ass thing in No More Heroes 2. You cut a dude in half in NMH1 and he comes back as two cyborgs.
I think Platinum excels at that. Just like Bayonetta, it is utterly committed and unapologetic about its insanity. And it stays coherent enough to make you care.
1:15:59 See, funnily enough, Sam is actually fully human by this point. He bears no cyborg enhancements: the only things he has to put him on equal footing with his enhanced foes are skill, a gun sheathe, his enhanced Murasama, and an exosuit. He only becomes a cyborg post-DLC, and even then it's just his arm (the replacement of which proved to be a nerf). Sam dunked on total cyborgs and UGs as a human being. If this guy teamed up with Raiden instead of staying with Armstrong, the battle in Pakistan would've been over within under 3 minutes. Not even kidding
I believe someone on platinum (maybe kojima himself) said that Sam could have actually win against armstrong, had he not go for the killing blow immediately
@@givemeanameiwillhate9525 I remember hearing that as well. If he had turned the fight into a war of attrition, Armstrong probably would've run out of energy to power his nanos, at which point Sam could've taken him down. But still, the fact that he landed a significant blow at all is no small feat for a human.
@@My2Cents.iF7934 i mean, that shit tanked a blade that can cut through virtually anything, and the fact that he can literally TIME it just by seeing it. Yeah, big feat
Monsoon is the equivalent of lines like “I can win, I feel great, I CAN DO THIS!” and “The name’s Recoome, it rhymes with doom and you’ll be hurting all too soon”.
The fact that Raiden stabbed a giant robot with its own sword is pretty cool. Then you remember his pain inhibitors were off the whole time he did that sequence
Thank you Charlie for replaying this masterpiece i havent played it since i was 16 and im now 26 and it reminded me of simpler times and made me laugh a lot bcs it reminded me of how edgy i was, like i had to pause the video multiple times to process that experience xD
@@SageLegacy actually I'd argue a lot of RPGs would benefit from lyrical music along the lines of MGR (just not going in as hard, of course), given that it'd cut down the need for cutscenes declaring motivation
So since I have your attention, due to this video being so new, “Rules of nature”, is actually about how the Metal Gears are outdated, the things that were once so dangerous, they were the final bosses of every Metal Gear Solid game, have fallen to the wayside, to make room for highly augmented soldiers, who are far more dangerous, mobile, fast, and lethal. The once mighty predator has been reduced to the prey of these new apex predators. The song is about how a weapon to surpass Metal Gear has been created, and is now everywhere, making the once formidable Metal Gears nothing but dying hunters, starving for whatever prey they can find, only to be easily killed by what once would have been their prey. And it’s not hard to see this either, since the fight against the Metal Gear at the start is by far the easiest boss fight in the game. And this metaphor also helps build Armstrong’s character even more, because in lore, the thing he uses to fight Raiden before he gets his nanomachines, is not actually a Metal Gear. In the lore of the game, it was only given the Metal Gear monicker to help it sell better, and in reality, is not one, as it is not bipedal, and has no AI. Think about that. Armstrong is essentially piloting a Chinese knockoff Metal Gear, that lacks any of the things that makes a Metal Gear, a Metal Gear. It’s the perfect metaphor for the front he puts up. It looks, sounds, and acts like what the Patriots were doing, but in reality, it’s a middle finger to everything they represented. This Metal Gear is only similar in name, but when you look beyond that, they’re actually completely different. Like Armstrong, and the Patriots, the very ideals he claims to uphold, while secretly despising them, and trying to undermine them. And like how he takes the fate of America into his own hands, he also takes the controls of this fake Metal Gear into his hands, as well. He could have easily just had it installed with an AI, but he chose to be its pilot, to control the machines that will burn down the old America, and plant the seeds of the new America he strives to create. Armstrong in a nutshell, basically.
@@wretchedknight2195 Play college ball if you still can. And work out religiously. You might also need to identify his political party, so you can get the right colour tie.
@@HESHRocketWarhead I think he may be a Libertarian (On the far corner of Libertarian Right) pretending to be a Republican. I could be misinterpreting his views, but it sounds pretty correct.
I wish there was more reference to/discussion of Snake, Otacon, and Big Boss. They could do it well enough that it wouldn't be nostalgia-baiting, I think. I understand not elaborating on Snake after MGS4, just to keep it a little ambiguous (even though he's almost certainly dead) but still. It's mentioned in the game that everything the Patriots had censored was released after their destruction, and most of the characters would have definitely read about The Boss and everything that happened with Big Boss.
The definition of a meme is: "an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation." Senator Armstrong, even though he is a small element in the finale of the game created a meme an idea that is passed down even today. He was may have died but his meme will live on.
Raiden's memes and Armstrong's memes definitely modify/merge with each other in some way judging by the ending. Hell, if Raiden lost in this fight, I would expect that Armstrong would probably be left with hard questions to ask himself considering how close someone came to defeating him, someone who embodied everything Armstrong sees as "strong" but with a completely opposing perspective.
Kojima got a lot of his inspiration for MGS and MGS2 from Richard Dawkins book the selfish gene which defined meme well before the internet existed yeah they started to lean into the internet meme definition in the later games but that's not what was originally intended
If you guys want your mind blown, check this shit out. You know how at the end of the game when you encounter Armstrong he wears a yellow tie and pitch black suit? Raiden wears the same kind of tie and suit at the start of the game in the limo. This is especially cock busting because the song that plays after Armstrong reaches his final phase (it has to be this way) is as everyone knows, about how Armstrong and Raiden arent so different.
the game follows the rule of cool 100% of the time and i really think it pays off, it really is the coolest game. maybe not the best game, but definitely the coolest.
Charlie makes jokes like "He could dual wield with both halves of his body", or "Maybe the prime minister isn't dead, he seemed like a tough guy" But with Kojima cyborg technology, those are honestly 100% reasonable predictions
Fun fact this game was supposed to be a prequel of metal gear solid 4 to fill in the gaps in the story but then Alastair Duncan (the guy who voiced Armstrong) came in screaming about patriotism and nanomachines so they changed the script of the game.
Wait, so Armstorng's voice actor improvised some lines and they liked it so much the whole game was completely rewritten? That's fucking boss. *Big Boss.*
Yeah that's not true. Kojimas team couldn't think of a game past the sword slicing concept so they gave it to Platnium who developed it into a sequel instead.
You know how much more overpowered Raiden would be fighting those PMC soldiers? The gameplay would probably be more linear but the levels would have more variety
if no one noticed, in the sam dlc, the chops off armstrongs arm and made it pointy. when he cut off raidens arm, he cut it so it would be flat. sam learned his lesson lol
@@adityabhargav7879 Fuuuck the subway. Still hate it to this day. I can deal with a lot of the other areas, and the gorillas, but the subway really messes me up.
Bro this and I somehow still beat that gorilla without knowing how to parry(same for the gorillas on the elevator) also played on normal so ig thats how I made it pass
Charlie at the start: They really shouldn't make a sequel after a catastrophic failure with Babylon's Fall. Charlie at the end: They really need to make a sequel.
I don't know man I don't think they can make a sequel better then this After seeing the worst game of the year I felt my soul was betrayed after seeing that...
At Sam's dlc, he DOESN'T have any augments. He goes full commando. He has an armor, but that's all. In the main story, he has a prosthetic arm (he lost his one, I mean...). He still goes full commando, he never uses augments or whatev.
If I had a nickel for every time Raiden has had a final showdown where he cut down a US government official with a katana, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it's happened twice. This was Platinum's first go into the Metal Gear series. Self-taught. And not half bad.
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Armstrong may not be the most complex final boss in the world, but the combination of the fun, challenge, spectacle, music, setting, and the character himself make this easily my favorite final boss of all time.
@@ratman7212 I disagree. Armstrong is the ultimate test in the game whether you have learned all the mechanics or not. These include: learning his moveset (which is always the same), dodging, parrying, the accuracy of your cuts during blade time, etc. Each boss is supposed to teach you these elements of the game, and Armstrong just combines them into one. Maybe the one annoying thing about him is his HP, but then again he also drops a ton of healing and gives you opportunities for free damage a lot. I think his fight is brilliant
@@jerkopatrik Yeah I liked how Armstrong threw every game mechanic at you all at once. The parrying vs dodging that you learn from the Blade Wolf fight, aiming your blade mode swings like the Sundowner fight, etc. Felt like a great way to end the game, by proving you've mastered every component. Plus there weren't any bullshit adds like most other fights in the game.
The way the music ties into the boss fights was easily the coolest part for me. The way the bosses connected to the lyrics for one, but also the way they'd drop in the vocals and it gets louder right when the action's getting really flashy. I think bosses in pretty much any game would be more memorable with music tying in that closely
@@Jun88782 wait, oh damn i read the wrong comment. I thought you were talking about a sequel mentioned in the og comment. I can easily see a remaster with this game, upgrades to texture res, higher polys on some character models, and a tweak in the lighting model, better reflections(this game legit would work very well with ray traced reflection, or even screen space would work), and a higher res for console versions.