STARRING KENNY BLANKENSHIP, AND VIC ROMANO! Merch: hyce.creator-s... Join my discord: / discord Become an ES&D Train Crew Member and get extra perks! / @hyce777
So I rode the subway in Montreal Canada a long time ago when I was younger. The trains in the subway back then ran on big rubber wheels. Not sure if that is still the case.
Well hi kAN! That's neat. A lot of subways / closed-loop transit situations do that, as the extra friction doesn't matter as much as getting up to speed quickly.
Montreal's Metro exposed the main flaw with rubber-tired metros: snow! They had to build the entire system completely underground with no elevated or surface portions, which makes it much more expensive to build. Paris gets away with it because it snows less there, I suppose?
Montreal still does it, but interestingly they aren't purely rubber tired, the rubber tires are affixed to conventional steel wheels, the rubber wheels are only there to allow the trains to accelerate and brake much quicker than a conventional train, and to allow them to climb steeper hills. The conventional wheels are there almost purely to guide the train through switches, and to hold up just under half of the trains weight, when running normally the trains are guided around corners by guide bars on either side of the track which prevents the flanges from making contact with the rails, thus making it so that the trains are far quieter around curves. However that is sort of nullified by the fact that the trains end up having a significant roar to them because of the tires. I find it less distressing than screeching train wheels however so it checks out.
Okay now we need a train themed be our guest parody lmao. "Be our guest, be our guest, put our engines TO THE TEST! Put some water in the boiler and we'll provide the rest!"
I believe there’s a narrow gauge locomotive in a museum about 5 minutes from me which has rubber tyres and metal flanges. They were used quite extensively on underground narrow gauge lines in coal mines as they improved adhesion and reduced the issue of wheelslip sparks. One other thing to note about the Decauvilles were their use on the trench railways in WW1 alongside the lines and vehicles built by Britain, the US, and Germany.
The use of rubberized wheels is akin to the wooden bushings used in powder houses back during the old black powder days. Anything and everything to reduce the risk of sparks. One place that wooden bearings for any axle were a big thing was Picatinny Arsenal back in its hay day of being an actual army depot.
So far, Episode 4 of both seasons has won a channel award. Season 1 saw the hardest that Mark laughed in an episode. Season 2 sees the best Lime. Edit: loved the impact replay. Edit Edit: Brett laughing, then the air compressor going off, then Brett yelling "SEVEN!" has got to be one of the best parts.
More on rubber train wheels: 17:07 the German crash the wheel tire was flung into the carriage and passengers could see the straightened piece of metal sticking through the floor. The boogie (truck) derailed going over points (a switch) a couple miles later and jackknifed into a bridge, the non-structural bodywork crushed flat. A big flaw with the wheels was that unlike monoblock (solid) wheels where fatigue cracks form on the surface, rubber spaced wheels get fatigue cracks on the inside face of the tire (because uneven support between rubber blocks) where they were not detected and formed much faster. That said, the design is ideal for vibration reduction on low speed tram and light rail. 16:19 Also, rubber-tire-on-steel-rail metro trains have genuine niche applications. They generally use regular train wheels for steering and load bearing with rubber tires for extra traction. These are usually a terrible idea (more complex, maintenance, supplier monopoly, etc.) but are useful for metros with steep grades (e.g.>20% converted cable railways) or ludicrously short-spaced stops like Paris that can genuinely benefit from the marginal acceleration boost. Great show as always!
For those who don’t know the history of the citrus: the limes story starts when Mark (Hyce) and Leighton are drunk in a bar, they start throwing limes back and forth almost starting a bar fight. (Mark, please reply and correct anything I got wrong)
we had had one beer, so we were not drunk, Leighton said a stupid lime joke, so I tried to throw the lime at him out of my beer glass, and somehow sent it across the bar and hit some dude's girlfriend with it, and THAT almost started the barfight. lol. Dude was pissed (understandably so), I was mortified. He stood up, turned around, saw 6 railroaders around the table and still looked like he was ready to 1v6 us lmao
@@Hyce777 One of those moments where you want to crawl under the gross bar carpet but later it’s hilarious. (I had a similar thing happen with my giant cowboy hat-I hit a guys bald head with the brim)
I went to Venice, Italy a couple summers ago and their trams were interesting. Each car had two rubber road tires where the wheels would be on normal rail cars, and they rode on a single rail in the middle of the "track." Since they were powered by overhead catenary, I can only assume that there was another wheel/flange-thing under the cars that used the rail to guide them.
Ye Gods, that was hilariously funny! Leighton was limed outta hell! That shot should get the Best use of a lime award, masterclass in lime utilization! Never fails to entertain, thank you all!
The silver slipper was actually a casino in Las Vegas. When Howard Huges moved to Las Vegas in the 1950’s he started buying a ton of casinos across the city. One of them was the silver slipper. But not for any sort of business purpose! The reason is actually because of the giant glowing silver slipper that was on top top their building. Apparently it was visible from Howard Huge’s bedroom and it kept him awake at night. So he decided to buy the casino just so he could remove the slipper!
Ah the precursor to the rubber tire metros (subways), which are still used today in Montreal, Canada and Paris, France. As a former Montrealer who lives in Toronto, I must say the Rubber wheeled trains are far superior to the steel wheeled ones. The rubber ones are almost silent and completely smooth, the steel ones clank, vibrate, and screech.
on the other hand, using tyres does result in greater friction, so while they can also handle steeper gradients, they do have to work harder to maintain the same speeds
6:15 HE SAID THE THING!!!!! side note: technically “GOBBLESS” is a deviation of god bless because boomerisms but turkey noises are pretty comedic too 😂
There is of course the London Midland and Scottish Railway Karrier Ro-Railer, which, although it didn't use its pneumatic tyres on the rails, had the single most bizarre eccentric arrangement to switch between modes. It also... did not work well.
"I have seen pictures of steam engines converted into NARROW GAUGE." A most appropriate thing to say when a K-37 is nearby. And apologies to Mr. Moreland for laughing at the impact replay.
The railbikes we're developing at Mt. Rainier originally had a composite wheel instead of steel, and it provided so much rolling resistance that you had to pedal downhill. Needless to say we're switching to speeder wheels.
Don’t hate on “MAD-rid” TN. There’s also a “MAD-rid” NM, with an original engine house, and a really handsome AT&SF consolidation that might finally be getting some restoration love, I hear.
Frenchman here, and actually Michelin system was used until the early 50s in France by most of private companies in the 30s and laiter by the SNCF. They were really considered as the first railcars on the french network, and still today for elderly people the word “Micheline” is still used to designate a railcar, even if they do not use tires anymore
Oh MXC. I miss so much about it. But I always loved the Captain's banter in the beginning. Something like, "How many of you think the Uintah Railway were fools for getting clearly oversized locomotives on their clearly too windy narrow gauge track? Those who agree raise your handssss now!" (Crowd with all hands raised, " YAH! WOOHOO!!!") Captain, "Well you're wrong!"
Captain Tenneal: "How many of you think the Rio Grande Southern was a successful line? One that kept the country moving, and the money flowing? Show of hands, Now!" (Cheering) Tenneal: "Well, you're wrong! They misused their tools, and kept getting stuck. That's called, train mishandling. LLLLLLet's go!"
High Point, NC got it's name because it was... the high point... between Raleigh and Charlotte on the North Carolina Railroad. And then there is Durango, Colorado... named by the D&RG for Durango, Mexico. Name the town whatever they want!
Leighton is going to hear a story one day called "The Day The Citrus attacked" and think back to the moment Brett nailed him in the face... and Cowell in the thought of a flying lime.
I think this is totally the funniest episode by far. Pee in a cup no, I peed in my pants AND I learned something too, rubber tires with metal flanges OMG. Thanks Mark and fellow idiots for a hilarious time with lots of limes! Great start to my week! This series is quickly becoming a classic. 😂
montreal, mexico city, paris, shanghai and more, and airport people mover trains (including denver) have rubber tire trains, they're alot more common than you'd think. they offer smoother rides and better acceleration at the cost of maintenance and efficiency.
Now that was a priceless episode of “3/4 of an idiot” the fact that you threw in a homage to MXC made it that much better; that show was the shit!!!!!! Also I don’t blame you for making fun of French town names because we got a lot of colonial French towns here in Missouri. Also now that you paid homage to MXC in your show, have you thought about making an MXC “impact replay” of number 475 at Strasbourg? There I said; I have no regerts!
Actually, the metro system in my city is fully automatic and with rubber wheels. The trucks have 4 truck wheel sized wheels that run on metal panels and in front and back there are horizontal rubber wheels that ride against the side of tracks to keep the trucks from jamming themselves into the track. The brand is Alstom by the way.
The eschede disaster was even worse than it sounds like here, the tyre sticking out the bottom of the car changed a switch while the train was going over it at the same kinds of speeds, and the car crashed into a bridge pillar, which caused the rest of the train (like 7-8 cars) to pile up behind and be compressed into the space of one car, i think over 100 ppl died there
I have never laughed harder at one of your videos before. Even before Leighton got his lime. Each one just gets better and better! Side note, I did know about Silver Slipper, but the fact you used a different rubber-tired train in the thumbnail meant I wasn't expecting that to be the card. I was pretty sure it wasn't the SP&S one, simply because most of their sleeper service was run-through with GN and NP.
Oh interesting, that does make sense. I tried using pictures of the actual Silver Slipper, but it didn't convey the rubber tire very well. Glad you had fun, I was laughing my ass off editing it.
In tune with Be our Guest, Ride our trains, ride our trains.. Is it bad, eehh no complaints Eat some cheese, have some wine, Did we derail .. it's probably fine .. Feel free to add to this lol
Regarding names, I live in OHIO. We have Quebec Rd in Cincinnati (not pronounced as in Montreal), Bellefontiane (pronounced Bell-Fountain), Rio Grande (Rye-o-Grand), Versailles (ver-SALES), and lastly & most deservedly Lima (not pronounced as in Peru). I apologize for my state.
I lived in Bellefontaine for a few years (having never otherwise lived in the state). I'd learned Bellefontaine the hard way and then my brain broke on Versailles. When I saw "Lima" on a job posting I had to ask someone how to pronounce it. He looked at me like I had three heads and nodded when I said: like the bean? I think I nearly got committed that day. Ohio, land of corn and soy and very boring highways and quite mad ways to pronounce stuff!!
I can't get over the fact that this is just a show with adults acting like kids. Is perfect. Im sure there just doing question for an excuse just to shit talk each other and do an inside joke. Ah only true friends shit talk each other and stay friends.
I think you convinced RU-vid with your instant replay... Immediately after that, both of the ads that I got were TV sports ads, and I don't think I've ever seen a sports ad on any video I've watched on my account before.
That shot was godlike Brett W. 🤣🤣🤣 You should got a point for that ha ha. Mark a question. Did you remember to wipe the lime of 20? And did some notice she got limed? As always a, tremendously fantastic video and I do believe Jimmy is the 4th idiot. No joke, he ain't gonna squeeze his way out of this 😂😂 Have a great day and keep making these hilarious and educational videos. Kind regards Bjørn from Denmark 💪🏻
@@Hyce777 absolutely hilarious Mark 🤣🤣 keep your gang around you they are golden and they keep you sane 🙏🏻 (down on Earth) when things are making one insane 😜 Never change dude, you are amazing for sure. Good evening to you or what time of the day it is. 😅
I don't remember if they have an inner flange or if there's a third rail that a flanged wheel connects to but a bunch of metros with very steep grades use rubber tired trains. Paris started it in the like 30's I think, most other systems are derived from theirs. Loud as hell though is the downside, like a freeway tunnel with less clearance for the sound to dissipate.
You guys need to get a typewriter or something. Maybe a labelmaker if you don't want to go back in time to 1970. Either way, that'll make it impossible to know who's who based on handwriting.
![Michelin made rubber-tired trains - and... the BEST LIME of all TIME! [3/4 Show 2x04]](/img/logo.svg){kind=logo}
