Very accidentally I listened to a piece of this yesterday (in stereo, Taylor being extremely well audible!), while checking my bootlegs from which I haven't heard everything yet (just collected very much recently). This is from the Dallas rehearsals, 1972 June 23, during their 72 STP/Exile Tour. One of their very best tours, only surpassed by the European Tour 1973 when Mick Taylor definitely stole the show(s). The Stones lost their magic when he left. I'm still sad about that ;-).
I know this is a late reply but do you have any idea what amp he was using at this session? I know it was Ampegs in 69, but for some reason I've got this session down as him playing a twin reverb but thats just a pure guess. The Hiwatts? I'd love to know.
Steve Bell I know this is a late reply but it was most likely an Ampeg VT-22, he still used those amps in the rest of his time with the stones and for many more years, can see him using one at a blues breakers gig in 82, although once before I have seen him using a twin reverb in a photo next to a half drunk bottle of whiskey ;)
There was a decade when these guys wrote and performed quite a few tunes that are dear to my heart. Though I am forever grateful they wrote this one and offered us so many different arrangements while performing on stage. Mick T. and Keith are truly magical.
no no, he was 19 when he joined the stones, so he was about 21 here, 22 maybe. he was 16 or 17 when he replaced Clapton's replacemnt Peter Green in the Bluesbreakers. and either way yes, a prodigy.
@@cultfilmfreakreviews Strangely, I was disussing this with Mayall at some seafood dive in Malibu a few years ago, and he did say he was just 16 when he jumped up on stage and took Clapton's place. Green was already gone. He was 20 when Mayall "gave" him to the Stones.
DVD coming out end of July - Rolling Stones - The Mick Taylor Years. You can pre-order it at Amazon and no doubt other online music sites. MT, you are forever the greatest! Can't wait for this DVD.
Fantastic blues Mick Taylor, soul and personality... just this little piece from 2:00 shows so much how super class guitarist he was. Almost same level as Duane Allman.
1:40. Mick Taylor is great but let’s never forget Keith sets the groove. For over a minute and a half they are both just riffin until Keith sends the signal with this simple riff saying “ok let’s go”
@kleermaker1000 I afraid you friend are so right on this conclusion. what came after was just a comedy of the Stones of 67-73. Thanks for your valuable comment.
dude with mick they had the best era for live touring; however there wouldn´t be paint it black, under my thumb, she is rainbow, etc. without Brian jones.
lnpsych1 its bc most people only know the 4-5 Stones songs that are played on the radio! Most “kids” and younger generations like myself born in ‘85 prob don’t even know the ‘72-‘73 lineup and haven’t been exposed to mick Taylor’s guitar and the stones in their PRIME!
The studio here in Dallas where this was done was called Sumet Burnet. The Fabulous Thunderbird's first record was done there along with lots of other stuff. It's no longer a recording studio, it's an insurance office or something. Pretty depressing.
people have a hard time having to deal with Ron Wood when listening to Mick Taylor. they find themselves apologizing to Wood for Taylor's greatness. but folks. Taylor was BEFORE WOOD. and... if Ron Wood replaced Clapton in Cream, would the band be the same? don't be afraid to say that Taylor's era was tops... it was.......
I think Mick Taylor was the best the Stones ever had - but Ronnie Wood is a very good guitar player and more than that he could keep up with Stones life style and has the right attitude / image to be a Stone .
@harp1925 Yes, definitely have to agree. A shame too, his time with them and his leaving would be a goldmine for a writer or filmmaker. Too bad they used the title and didn't spend much time on the content.
Correction, Woody was great with Faces, but boring with Stones - you can't be boring and play with the Stones it's the main reason the Stones are shadow of what they once were - everybody knows it. It's not about being a Keith clone (which is what ronnie is w Stones) then you got redundancy. MT was different than Keith and that's what made them so great together
Satisfaction, Paint It Black, Sympathy For The Devil, Gimme Shelter, Jumpin Jack Flash, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Miss You, Beast of Burden, Shattered, Start Me Up...all tracks Mick Taylor never played on. Not too shabby.
Well he quit the Stones abruptly after the 1974 album "Its Only Rock and Roll" and though he didnt clarify it to them at the time and left them hanging we now know that he had developed a raging heroin habit and he has said since it was "either stay with the band and die or leave the band and survive without the fame"
Taylor adds so much musicality its seems like a different band by '77. Ronny is awesome and is a great friend to Taylor. Jones was great while able. Three eras at least and they all were amazing. The contrast of styles and roles here was fairly unique. You had a great rhythm section with Watts and Wyman and then a top front man, rhythm guitarist and lead guitarist. Everything complimented everything.
Ronnie made them sound like a novelty band, very limited, great but limited, thank god for great songwriting. Taylor on the other hand made them the best.
Taylor is a fucking genius full stop just listen to him playing along to this I mean come on people how hard would it be to just "fit into the stones" ok there were great songs before MT how many truly epic ones after he departed ?? I mean the shit this guy had to put up with from Mick & Keef ( by the way thats why Rory Gallagher turned down the stones when he was asked to replace Brian Jones !) dont get me wrong I think Ronnie is great but he's no Mick Taylor the solo in Sway is proof enough soulful bluesy brilliance he (MT) I think was the right man in the right place for the stones "at that point in time anyway" still would have liked to here Rory jam with the stones even just once !
Sure, Sway is a Taylor melody that he probably should have received credit for, but you generally seem to confuse someone playing a solo on someone else's composition with that making him a co-writer of that song (the opening riff of Knocking is undisputedly Keith's; Taylor playing a four minute solo at the end does not mean co-authorship). Taylor in his solo years being unable to write one memorable song says something, and anyway he ate a sub for every song he didn't receive credit, so good.
But they haven't been a proper band since the 70's. Since then they've been more or less a tribute band to themselves playing exclusively old stuff. Wood was the Death of the Stones. The beginning of the end. Nobody could have saved that band after Taylor. How are you supposed to hit those heights again? Evidently they felt the same way because they couldn't be arsed to make any great new songs after that. Lets face it, they couldnt even stand being in a room together and the only way you can get them to tour is for the money playing old shit. That's Wood's legacy.
@@stevebell4853 Correctomundo, They are playing out FZ's "We're only in it for the money". I saw the band in the early 70's and Richards was smacked out. Taylor , Wyman and Watts were holding it down. When I saw them in 64 it was obvious even then that Jones was flaming out.
@bustballz I agree wholeheartedly with the Taylor and the Wood statement but Jones aside from stage presence and appearance really wasn't anything special on guitar. But at least he was adequately versatile on several instruments, giving some very interesting texture to their material when he was in the band
I think the Stones had many more surprises and fine performances after M. Taylor left. Ronnie filled the void well. His slide was better than Taylors glide. Ron became a true Stone, no longer a fill in player. I love Mick Taylors work, but the overall outcome of the Stones career became better as they aged. They are indeed the Greatest Rock and Roll band of all time. Nobody will ever surpass their feat of longevity and ability to sellout a string of stadium venues as 70 year old rockers.
Raymond McGrath nonsense - they were at their peak 68-74 and declined, certainly creatively, after that. As is to be expected - no one can maintain that standard. Taylor was a true Stone (not a fill in player if that's what you're suggesting!) and took the band to their live peak. Ronnie' great and they still put on a decent show and of course they get credit for longevity, but it's ridiculous to suggest they got better as they went into middle age. '72/'73 Stones were untouchable.
Slave? Ron Wood is not on Slave, only Keith is. Ron Wood paid his due by becoming a millionaire. Mick Taylor paid his dues by paving the way for Ron... to become a millionaire. Ron Wood has NOTHING on Taylor.
Jagger and Richards ripped Taylor off of everything, he is broke and it break's my heart he is not paid for anything and he did write song's. But, now they have the nerve to ask him as a guest in Newark NJ on the 15th of Dec. Mick Taylor put out an statement over the internet I think it was Wed. of this week of how he got ripped off and how he lives. He cannot even pay his bill's and once they seen that they asked him, he is taking them to court and he is going to win. Sad.
Exactly as I said, of course Keith claims credit for the entirety of the writing...its more money for him...and you buy into everything Jagger/Richards have said on the Taylor era. Per the engineers and everyone involved in the recording, Keith wasn't even there when Sway and Moonlight Mile were written. If that is the case, then how much more was he screwed out of? You've obviously sided with them in this argument, I disagree. So be it.
That's such a stupid comparison - Page shamelessly stole arrangements and melodies from blues musicians, while the Stones proudly credited their covers to the original blues artists and BROUGHT HOWLIN WOLF ON UK TV, AS WELL AS HAD BERRY AND B.B. KING OPEN THEIR '69 TOUR. Moonlight Mile was based on a "Japanese thing"/melody Keith had written, and the main riff to Knocking is his as well (Taylor playing an extended solo is not the same as writing a song). Nice try confusing the issue, though.
Playing ornamentation on a melody is not the same as writing the melody (or the lyrics). Royalties 101. And Taylor got payed for every album and tour. Not too shabby.
his choice to quit the Stones. They wanted him to stay. Same with a job. Sometimes it takes a long time to get your just dues, but if you quit you don't
Sometimes it takes a long time to get your dues? Try forever. They were never going to give him what he wanted which was equal song writing duties and credits. Do you know how much song writing credits are worth? If you did, then you;d know why EVERYBODY got locked out of that particular deal. With a bunch as manipulative and greedy as Jagger and Richards, if you think they were ever going to let Taylor in on their cash cow then you dont know these people. Jones found out what these people are like when you have something they want. If I were Taylor, I would never have joined in the first place and I think he feels the same way now. Wyman wised up too late. Charlie I've got no respect for. He's always got a look on his face that says he hates what he does, and who he does it for. You can tell he detests doing that for money but they'd never let him leave in a million years. They still cant stand Wyman for doing it. They're the ones who made all the money, and they KNOW it couldn't be done without the others. I dont respect anyone who would stand for that kind of situation for so long, they were nothing much more than hired hands for Jagger and Keefy No-Skills
That is if you believe the Glimmer twins...both notorious thieves of American blues music themselves...who never credited the original artists unless it was a straight up cover and they had to. Mick wrote far more than those two allowed him credit for. Sway, Moonlight Mile, Can't you Hear Me Knocking, just to name a few that he didn't get shit for. Believing what Mick J and Keith say is gospel is like saying Jimmy Page's songs in Zep are all originals. Just not true.
I gotta disagree with you. Mick and Keith especially have always been quick to point out where the blues came from. Page too. Remember it was Brian Jones who helped get Howlin Wolf to England for the show's in 1965-66 because he felt that Wolf was not getting his due. You cannot fault Jagger, Richard's, or Page for being good enough, lucky enough etc to capitalize on it. The fault lies with the record people who dealt shit deals, and kept the lionshare of the money and they also faced problem of touring certain areas of the US with black musicians where the Stones were immune that even in 1966 though they were messed with a lot for their appearance and mainly length of their hair. I think you should understand the entire picture and know The Stones are and were just a blues cover band that got very lucky and became very good artists and performers and same for most of the British Invasion bands, they have always known like anybody with a mind that blues and jazz was born in the US right down there in the bayou and French Quarter as well as the Delta of Mississippi and eventually migrated to Chicago and NYC but we get credit for the music as the one true America creation despite our youth when compared with the ages of the rest of the world nations
The drums suffered tremendously as Charlie aged. I had really never seen Charlie at the very start and he had that Ringo HH swoosh and a thunderous rim shot and Kick drum so I do owe the dude an apology (as if he cares) but he's become a burden in the band, actually the only one that has improved TREMENDOUSLY is Jagger , dunno where in hell he found two octaves and projection.
You're 100% right about Jimmy Page - the worlds greatest rip off artist indeed. And his band -the worlds greatest disappointment ethically and legally speaking
