Nine workers turned in to three once the work started. Pretty good technique for temporary service. A fiber optic line eight to nine inches deep with a soft conduit is vulnerable to breakage from other utility workers, sprinkler crews, and gardeners.
I especially like the Berkenstocks that one of the guys are wearing! Also, they could very well be running armored cable, so most home-owner/pruvate ground work wouldn't affect it. Locates would need to be done with any major road repair.🤷. City I live in had their traffic light systems and photo "RFP" in but neglected to require minimum depths.... Like 2-3" install depth. These get torn up all the time by construction crews 🤣
Not necessarily, in case of micro fibre the cable is installed in a coper protection tube. Also if budget allows the installation is based on a physical ring topology, which is an additional layer of security.
Six people on the job, only two doing the bulk of the work. A third dude finally picks up a shovel after like ten minutes and does like 30 seconds of work. Living up to the stereotype.
yup You drive by any municipal construction project and its the same Private projects are a diff story, but anything done at state, or local govt is absolute trash, and you notice there are always wasting money! They will spend money just to spend it because they wint get thst state funding next yr if they dont spend it they prob hire extra people just to spend money
Maybe they're already doing it but whenever a new subdivision of homes gets built --- wouldn't it be easier to lay conduit underground to every home, say around 3 foot depth? That way you can install fiber or replace old fiber rather easily, and makes it future-proof. The way they are doing it in this video, the cable will be destroyed whenever they renovate the roadway.
If we lived in a more developed country, data infrastructure would be considered valuable and there'd already be conduits under the roads for it. We treat fiber the way slums in India treat plumbing and electricity.
You would think. Most municipalities want do all this after a freshly laid asphalt goes down. Atleast that is how it works where I live. I work for that municipality. NOT the one in the video
Depending upon your city, county and state codes. All fiber underground cables should be anywhere between 36 to 42 inches deep. Depending upon the underground utilities. This that you see will likely only last as long as the road. Is not milled up to be replaced by a new road.
This process is called micro trenching for a reason, not meant to be more than a few inches deep so I'm not sure why so many comments saying it needs to be several feet deep. This is likely in the south as well. Is it the best method? No, in some areas, and yes in others. We have done a good amount of this, but we mostly cut concrete over bridges with walkways, down public walks, parking lots, or along the roadside edge where blocking traffic and major property tear out isn't an option. We also use hot polymer resin based infill and color match in many cases, along with insulating sand in some projects with wider cuts or rough base. Sometimes the customer just wants asphalt fill, so we give it to them similar to this. In this case, it's clearly city work and done at the lowest attention to detail. I didn't see an inspection, no insulating sand, dyer markers, etc. We would have put a bright orange dyed fill a few inches above the conduit so when resurfacing happens they see the color if they get too deep. When we cross streets we find out what the cities resurfacing depth is, usually 2-4 inches max so 6 inch depth isn't going to get touched. Obviously a full road removal is going to rip it up. Despite a sub par job, that fiber will last a long time.
I do like it as a temporary solution, yes the road will need attention at some point even if it's low vehicular use. But when that time comes, they can put conduit in. I think the purpose of this is probably to do a quick job, but also one that doesn't involve costly and inconvenient road closures. When the road needs re-surfacing, it will need full permits and be a hassle to road users, at that point they can do the final cable run well below ground level. I did a job only a few weeks ago (new build) that would have involved power going from one side of a road to the other - that was going to be £7,000. If the power was on the right side of the road already, it would have been a third of that price or less. The admin cost is very high for going under a road.
They have horizontal boring machines that could have bored under road put the cable at a safe from breakage depth. That costs more money and a lot more time. Which is the way every other utility service does it. Nope Google opted for cheap, and destruction of public property. So cheap that the cable is going to need replaced if public works ever touches that road. So they'll be back... to do it again... What's worse is ultimately Google isn't paying for this shoddy work. The people of Huntsville are, what's even worse is that their public officials allowed it.
@@garygsp3 We've had Surf Broadband and Frontier Fiber installing in my town. They're using the horizontal boring machines everywhere. Nothing like what was shown here. The only trick I've seen is a long drill bit looking then to jump under sidewalks for the runs to the homes.
Thank God for FIOS all they did was change my ONT and ran an ethernet cable to my router. They didn't even have to change my router, I guess this area didn't have the infrastructure in place before.
of course that's part of the long term plan but this is a way to get fiber there now.. also unless it's a deep resurfacing which I doubt in a residential area it's normally about 4 inches.. so most likely below that threshold
Im with most of these people in the comments. This video was interesting but as someone who did this work for three years with a plow and jt20 directional drill, this was hard to watch. Thanks for the upload anyways and watch out for the rainbow tree roots.
Utilities (e.g. fiber optic cables) installed on telephone poles can be damaged once every few years and are fixed within hours. Utilities installed underground are damaged far less frequently, but would be off-line for days, or weeks, or worse. A bit of a trade-off I think. We have had fiber optic internet installed in 2014, even in an area of extremely low population density, i.e. multi-acre lots. It was installed quickly and efficiently. People wait extra decades if they don't have poles. A bit of a trade off I think. Choose your option.
That's one dull blade on that cutter. Slow as hell. Use cold pour crack filler. Won't damage the microduct, faster to install and less messy. We use EZ Street to patch our roads.
every time I see a patch or a cut at right angle to the road, I wonder why. even a slight angle makes it last longer in terms of being snow plowed and it's also a less egregious bump to vehicles.
Makes sense. And also, why not just tunnel under the road. There's no way we couldn't build a machine of the same size, for the same cost, that could push a rod under the road, and then pull the rod back, threading the conduit in the process.
It feels like the blade runs much too slowly, and it's also dry, well these aren't my devices. Why don't you see that you should put the whole thing properly in the ground? I'm curious to see how the next street coating will do the cable good. Here (Switzerland) such cables are shot over short distances (e.g. under streets), but mostly laid through existing cable ducts (electricity, telephone, TV, etc.), well protected, easily laid and easily accessible for renewals/repairs.
So what happens to the fibre in the road when it is ready to be milled and repaved. Is the fiber removed before milling, or it gets chewed up by the road mill?
too bad google has already abandoned this technique in nc and the system they had put in. worked ok till the first time they ground the asphalt down and it ripped the filler and cable out every time they crossed it
Micro trenching is done as a faster more inexpensive way to run fiber to customers . If the road is repaved, or planning to be replaced they would end up running it in con. Micro trenching is good for areas that permitting and directional boring are not practical. This is a quick, cheap, easy way to get fiber internet without the overhead
Why cut a fairly new looking road to lay microduct in a gap and then simply patch it? leaving a big black line across it?. Why not just get a JT9, bore under the road and put in a 1" flex pipe and fish it instead?. This seems like horrible business practice, and I can't imagine the city or majority of the neighbors are really happy about it, either.
Yes it will. Should have made 2 pits with a vac truck and used a ditch witch to make it a forever installation. This will get cut during curb repairs and road repairs.
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It's in Huntsville, Alabama and it is for Google Fiber. Huntsville Utilities builds and owns the fiber network there and leases access to the various ISPs.
Cut the cable too short. How is anyone going to tie in? Or was just that just a hollow tube for the fiber to go into? Should have put a sealer over everything. Snow will melt, freeze and expand and create the need to repair the road.
My friend explained why satellites can't replace fiber cable for communication network is because the distance between earth and satellite then back to earth is too great. The added milliseconds becomes a bottleneck. I still think of how many million miles of roadway on earth have to get a cable.
They used this method to put long flashing lights down the centre of the highway for a school crossing zone. Took two weeks night work, the lights stopped working after two weeks, they never repaired them.
They are doing it in my area now. So what’s gonna happen when the street needs to be stripped and repaved again?? That cut didn’t look that deep for this street. I saw the cut in person here and it looked very deep. Probably not gonna be affected by street scraping. And another thing why do this underground?? Isn’t that gonna be hard for them to fix the wire if something goes wrong and you know things always go wrong with wires for whatever reason. They will have to pull it out of the ground etc. sounds like a lot of unnecessary work to me. What about floods?? Wire could be submerged in water underground. Why not just run on a telephone pole and be done with it quick? Like cable internet.
I'm researching this method for a new FTTH role out, and I've never heard of it being ripped up by a repaving, that's something I hadn't considered... Definitely will have to see if I can find more occurrences of that. "Attachment" fees are a recurring cost of attaching to a telephone pole... forever, you also have to pay to "make ready" the pole if there isn't room (this could range from moving other utilities to replacing the whole pole), many neighborhoods don't have poles, ice or vehicles can take out a pole. The cable itself is protected from water, then they put it in a conduit, but yes it can be damaged by road work or other utilities; the MT9 they're using is only a 9" max depth so it definitely isn't going that far down.
When a road needs to be resurfaced, the amount of road material removed is typically only 4-6 inches at most. These fiber lines are typically installed 8-10 inches deep so the lines will remain below the point where the surface is removed and repaved. The only time it would really be an issue is if the subsurface/foundation of a road needs to be redone. At that point, the fiber line will need to be reinstalled.
Theyre installing a conduit below the asphalt grade. Asphalt is not going to be thicker than 4". The duct they're installing is deeper. When the fiber is rendered inoperable will pull it out of the duct sleeve and pull a new fiber through it. No need to reinstall the duct
@@briankutys2235 Yup. As " _required_ " by a cubicle-dwelling bureaurocrat with absolutely *NO* *IDEA* how weather & the elements work. Book-smart , irl-DUMB. I've worked over 35 years in government , and sadly it's the dumbest & laziest ones ( who *WON'T* be missed on a jobsite ) who tend to get promoted. Penny-wise & _Thousands_ of dollars foolish ; but they _show_ on *paper* how much they "saved" & get bonuses for it.
Billion dollar company opts for the cheapest installation along with the destruction of public property. Every other utility service would have to bore under the road. NOT GOOGLE! We bribed your officials and we can now do what we want. EVEN BETTER! We did this job so cheap, than when if fails because it's so shallow, we're allowed to do it again. What's even better is ultimately the people of Huntsville are the ones who will pay in more ways than one with this shoddy install. They could have bored under the road and Google would still have made more money than they knew what to do with it. This just pisses me off.
Wow... That's some seriously lazy, crappy installation. No wonder Google Fiber has so many issues with their lines coming back up to the surface. I've heard horror stories but never seen it. This is NOT the way to install fiber, not even remotely close.
@@SamaSama-ke5uj Well digging ... dedicated ducts 80cm or even lower below ground. It aint cheap, but it will last and in case of a defect it is easy to fix. Microtrenching is just ... CANCER
This has to be the most ghetto shit I've ever seen. There's no way that small of a cutting wheel made it all the way through that high back curb. So now if that curb ever has to be replaced, guess what, there's fiber embedded inside of it.
