i still wouldn't trust Microsoft, they say they will turn it off, but i figure they will sneak something like this some time later without saying anything to the user, i don't trust them. they are giving me no choice but to use Linux from now on. i only play games and watch media on my PC, so they don't really need that access, besides Linux is way better on the privacy factor over Microsoft.
I have tested devices that listen. Here's what I found: our smart TV listens even when switched off, and conversations will appear as ads. However, it's okay if we physically unplug it (which we do). Android phones: if a friend visits us with an Android, and we talk about something, we get ads or random RU-vid videos related to the topic. We only have iOS. How they link a friend's Android device (not connected to my Wi-Fi) with my social media accounts is a mystery. It does not seem to happen if we have iOS-only friends around. We made several tests: we randomly picked a topic and started talking about for 5 minutes. Then, I went to Facebook, and I had to scroll for about 5 minutes, but then ads started appearing. Strange: this morning we were talking about a friend who has a council flat, and I randomly saw a RU-vid video about council housing. I am not sure how it happened, as my tests show that iOS is okay. But I am not kidding, it could have been our neighbor's smart TV that picked up the conversation. Or it could have my new PC (recently I bought my first Windows PC for rendering, otherwise I only have Mac), and while it was switched off this morning, it could have listened as it was plugged in, just like the smart TV does listen unless you unplug it. It is insanity.
You're exactly right and as a Windows user myself I'll be sticking with 10 until its unsupported then jumping to Linux or something, I don't want to but these morons just want to make everything into a data mining operation so they can feed the Ai more information to learn off of. For them to think I would want to waste a single megabyte of memory on storing images of WTF I'm working on or a single cpu cycle is ridiculous. Just slap an 11 on the box and call it a day Microsoft, you're job is REALLY easy here.
They didn't _remove_ it, they didn't _patch it out_ ... they "disabled it by default". Which means they can just switch it back on in an update/service pack, and never tell you.
@@chilomine839 Don't need them, you can already remove elements from Windows pre-install (make your own version). You can already edit the registry. You can already use O&O Shutup. You can already check your idle processes and network use. Why don't people do these things? Hell if I know.
But... but.. then Windoze won't be epic bloatware any more! We can't have Windoze be less that 1TB on your HD! We need more! More bloatware, more useless garbage, more intrusion by big tech & the government into MY computer! We just need more!
"Security is our top priority".. and that's why we created an absolutely massive security hole, forced it on every single user, and made it default enabled.
I'd love for journalists climbing up the corporate ladder and finding out WHO it was that pushed for this. But it's not going to happen, that would mean doing some real work and putting yourself at risk...
@@jarirepo1172 The longer we wait the riskier and harder it becomes. What seems hard now will be a cake walk compared to how difficult it will be in the future, if not impossible. Everyone simply walking away from these companies and starving them of money is probably the quickest and easiest way to fix this problem without anyone even getting hurt.
@@immortalsofar5314 I remember the "Hasta la Vista, Microsofts Last OS" bumper stickers. I hated Vista as well, but I stuck around because Win7 fixed most of Vista's issues.
That's what I said too, when news about it came out and someone said they could add a toggle. No! How about it isn't in the OS in the first place and only available as an external program for the people who really want it? Most people don't want or need it and windows is bloated with stuff nobody wants already!
Ubisux quietly removed the Heka chests from Assassins Creed Origins in a patch that had no notes. These companies are full of themselves. The activists don’t believe in rights and privacy. About what you should expect from people who kek babies.
If a hacker could steal your "Recall" data then it would be no big deal for them to hack into your computer and turn "Recall" on. Turning "Recall" off by default, is problematic on the sense that non-tech savvy users may just assume it's always off because they never turned it on. They will never think to check if it's somehow been turned on by a malicious actor, or maybe Microsoft itself and has begun storing that data unbeknownst to them.
Recall saves locally so if hackers have access to your recall data then they already have access to your complete system and have no use for access to recall.
It's awfully big and magnanimous of Adobe to give themselves permission to snoop into OUR OWN PRIVATE BUSINESS! We all need to get away from Adobe, NOW!
Shorty after Adobe started with its subscription bullcrap I reverted back to using CS5 suite. Once CS5 becomes too obsolete for me to use on modern machines, I'll switch to some other non-Adobe, non-subscription product.
@@smarmar400 Everyone needs to be doing the same thing right now. The big tech companies will either stop these shenanigans, or go out of business - preferably the latter.
@carloschu7127 The problem is the open-source alternatives often don't have a lot of the same level of features the closed source ones do, usually bc the competitors often threaten the open-source devs with lawsuits for 'copyright infringement'.
@@mrmosey-kp3cu Then start supporting the tools that you use, you will be surprised by how far an open source software can go with few bucks spent on it, a lot of the teams behind OSS software are overseas and you might think that your 10 bucks wont change a thing but couple of hundred people donating 10-20 bucks per month for something that they use daily for business can be the difference between a good product and some really shitty one. I did a project management system based on Agile when i was in college, its still running to this day and i mostly do security updates on it, people still support it privately, it's not much couple of thousands per year, but all of the companies that use it are happy, their costs for planning is 100 bucks a year at best if the go with cloud hosting, and close to the electricity bill if they host it on premise. Compared to something like Jira, Azure Devops that charge $15 per user (per project) for the base functionality, if you're a small company and have like 30 people on 3 projects presuming they all use the base functionality and don't opt in for more paid features and are equally split that would be around assuming executives share an account close to $300 per month. The world can change, if we all start support engineers instead of brands and corporate executives that are only in it for the money and not to solve the underlying issue. My team is me, myself and i, no marketing, no promotion, no sales, it's free use it, support it or don't hell there is no guarantee that i will be able to respond in time, but what is there works and there are no licenses attached.
@@ChaosUnfold Digital licences are more like an extended borrow while the customer doesn't know for how long he can borrow the software/game (until services and servers are down...) Back in the 90s and early 2000s you would buy boxed copies that you actually owned.
Sometimes it feels like privacy is a losing battle. Every single thing you do is tracked by somebody. Cell phones, RFD chips in credit cards, Pod-cams every block, IoT devices, "smart" home devices, website cookies, & trackers, ISP logs... the list goes on. There are many ways we can fight back of course, but at the expense of pretty much every modern convience available.
I'll be blunt. THEY DIDN'T DISABLE IT!!! If you think they did, you're a fool! And if they were sorry, they would get rid of it ALL TOGETHER! And if they were REALLY SORRY, they never would have made it IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
I’m gonna be real with you, I just rarely overreact to this stuff. Not because I’m used to it, but because it’s not worth the energy. If I had a nickel for every time I overreacted over something that didn’t happen or was less bad than I imagined, I’d be rich.
@@JGreen-le8xx You think there's bots telling you to edit the registry? You own it right? Act like it. Don't be a sheep, learn to use your computer. At least use O&O Shut up
@@Cubeytheawesome Are you for real ? With this stupid app INSTALLED it will constantly take pictures of ALL your personal info for M$ to SEE OR SELL as they see fit! What's worse , this just gives hackers even more incentive to hack M$ and get millions of people's personal info in one easy hit! Think of when Sony got hacked only 1000X worse!
I like how the article even uses boot licking language: "Microsoft Bows to public pressure." Not "Microsoft comes to its senses." or "Microsoft remembers it's a computer manufacturer not a spy agency."
Wouldn't it be absolutely hilarious if the C-Suite and Board had all their Recall data plastered all over the internet. I bet they would then realize what an invasion of privacy this is.
Honestly thats prob what it will take for the feature to not be installed by default is someone high up in in the company being exposed as say a predator due to recall etc.
Always remember my five steps to tyrannical roll-outs: 1) Introduce 2) Get called out 3) Dial it back 4) Re-introduce as a feature when people get accustomed 5) Ramp it up.
@@montreauxs If they don't just make it a svchost among the dozens of others. I'm sure someone will come up with a program to disable it even if they hide it, though. I just don't trust Microsoft to do it. I mean, after all, they made it in the first place.
@montreauxs you have too much faith in Task Manager. Wish I had a dollar every time I had problem and all the apps reported using memory didn't add up to 100% of total memory in use.
@@montreauxs Task manager is not your friend. Task manager only shows you things you SHOULD have access to, but it doesn't show you the stuff that's screwing with you and you shouldn't lay eyes on. For example, the various things that re-enable automatic updates whenever you find a way to turn it off, are not listed in task manager. They're buried so deep in the OS, that we still can't disable automatic updates on windows 10 and have it not re-enable itself after a while.
Even if we assume no malice, all of these corporations are so caught up in the AI hype that they want to push these highly exploitable and dangerous things simply to collect more data to train AI. Like Adobe wanting all rights to your works so that they can train their AI, without thinking of the broader implication of that's fucking insane.
The problem isn't malice. Far from it. There was an old C.S. Lewis quote about how he'd rather live under robber barons than moral busybodies, because all the robber barons only want money. The moral busybodies want to hound you and harass you for your own good. The problem is, what happens when the robber barons *are* the moral busybodies? Then we have a situation where those with all the money and power now want to rule every last minute of our lives....for our own good. That's what makes them feel validated in their existence.
@@KathrynTestBot Normally I'd agree with you, but in the case of Microsoft and other tech companies, I think it's actual greed and malice. The "it's for your own good" thing is what they want us to think they think.
About devices listening in, I’ll give you a scary story! Years ago I was at the outlet mall, spur of the moment shopping. I was thinking it would be cool if I could find like a vintage style bowling shirt. My fiancée called me, told her I was at the mall. Did not say what I was hoping to find, did not look it up. It was just a thought I had. Didn’t find any (wasn’t expecting to) and went home. That evening I’m scrolling through Facebook and I’m seeing all these ads for vintage style bowling shirts! Dude, they’re reading our minds!
I've noticed that for years emf and elf waves. Alex Jones and Owen shroyer discussed this years ago and mad ea short video are phones reading our minds.
They are not ready your mind. They have a digital copy of you . That ai copy has info about your behaiver and they can for 90% predict what you like and what not. + whatsapp, instagram and other apps of fb , listen to you all the time. Watch doc: The Social Dilemma
I have had a similar experience years back also. I had never talked or searched about it, only the thought. I did a search about it and their was someone on a forum that mentioned a similar experience.
More likely it is the RFD tag in your Credit Card that was read by the stores you were looking in. I imagine they can read inside the store by now, so they knew what department you were in and what general area. If you use Siri or OK Google, the damned thing listens to your every word, so if you asked a store clerk, they probably have it. Back when my live in partner used the actual Facebook App on her phone, if I ever texted with her about something, I would see ads on MY PHONE or Browser. So I think the Facebook App uses the ability to steal data from other apps on the same phone against me. I have not had similar situations since I convinced my partner to only login to Facebook using her phone's browser instead of the app. She eventually deactivated her Facebook account and only uses messenger, also with the browser only. I use a VPN now, which makes it harder for them to track my logins. Since those two changes, I no longer have those "spooky coincidences" like before.
@@eclectic_gamer Sounds like B.G. with the entire Covid fiasco and while the entire world was on shutdown, what he'd do? He went and bought thousands, tens of thousands of acres of real estate. And not just ordinary real estate, no, a vast majority of it was rural, farming lands. Hmm, back around 2016-18 he invested billions into pharmaceuticals around the world only a few years after stepping down or retiring from being head CEO of MS with a previous interview as to stating "his concern" if the world happened to face some kind of supervirus. Someone is not going to invest billions out of the kindness of their heart without expecting any kind of yields or returns. Then Covid happened, one of the places in the world where his "donations" eh-hem "investments" ended up. Perhaps not directly, but indirectly such as through the WHO or DWB... Then while everyone was concerned with the COVID thing and the lockdown where most supply and demand chains were driven to a halt along with all of the bull shit so called protests that turned to riots probably orchestrated and funded from his buddy "George Soros" to keep everyone distracted came the in the shadows land grab... All the while both pharmaceuticals and food productions at least within the U.S. are all regulated by... wait for it, ... the FDA... Now, B.G. himself may not be the active CEO of M.S. nor be an active employee, but he is probably and more than likely a majority shareholder and is probably and more than likely a sitting board member. Remember, it was he who setup and contracted with the Federal Government all those years ago to push Windows all across the U.S. as well as the rest of the world. The government will never go after him. They made billions off of him. It might have been a very shady deal, very controversial, possibly unethical, yet it was mutually beneficial for both of them. Regardless of one's opinions of the man and I'm not exactly "hating on him", the man is brilliant, he is a genius, and knows how to play a game of chess where the world is the stage. He tactically, strategically did things in such a way as to push and bend the law but covered his tracks as to not break it. Yeah, there were a few times, that M.S. and he were under high scrutiny of the law with various lawsuits against them, but once that contract was put into motion, and both M.S. and the Governments started to make billions, they became settlements instead. Now one thing I can say about him though is he does have a sense of integrity and loyalty. He remained loyal to the company he worked for start with, help to build his entire life. So, love him or hate him, at the end of the day, he is still just another human being. There are things about what's done that is questionable even aggravating, yet his genius and other qualities are kind of admirable too. When it comes to B.G. I'm a bit on the fence. Now as for G.S. I can't stand that p.o.s. socialist.
As someone who carries a badge for a living I can 100% assure you that cops will subpoena your recall records by name to build a case against you. Recording your personal activity is violating your rights, period.
@@raven4k998 Of course not. That's why I say we need to look into EVERYTHING all these companies are doing. They are clearly up to no good. How do we know? We know because they want to look into everything we do. It's none of their business. It's not their consern what we do.
@@hammertronactionfigures2426 trust them if you like and if they harvest your organs don't say I didn't warn you because the tech and skills doctors to do it now today exist so it can be done and with those company's out of control who's to say they won't come to harvest you for your useful organs think about that one because it's already being done by desperate people in some country's so company's doing not surprising if they try it out on you
This is why a healthy Linux ecosystem is extremely important as a backup plan. Richard Stallman (despite his many flaws) saw all of this coming decades ago with Gnu.
@@mattdamutt5681 It isn’t complaining if said people aren’t willing to protect their fruit of their own garden. People need to do more than the bare minimum especially these days.
@@mrconroy4672 The thing about the Linux ecosystem... the vast majority of programs are open source and protected by the GPL, which means you can take it and fork it and use it all you want, if you distribute your changes, then you have to supply source code with it. Basically, if you want to play in our sandbox, you have to share the toys with others. This more or less prevents people from ruining the whole thing. Windows and macOS are both very proprietary, and if they decide they want to force a 'feature' onto someone, or take away a feature that is required by one of the programs you bought... well, you're SOL.
@@grizzlynightmare8011 either he anticipates a food shortage or wants to cause a food shortage, the man believes the world is overpopulated, which means the next course of action is food production.
People in heneral should DITCH Windows OS from their Home PCs. Shift to Linux and leave Windows BS to corpos, maybe once one day aassive data breach happens and Quadrillions of Dollars worth in Industrial and State secrets are stolen through a compromissed Microshaft backdoor, they will change two steps to the better (then go five million to the wrong a week later).
There's a reason I do all my work using offline computers with locally installed apps. Anything that needs to go online gets sneaker-net'd over to a linux box and uploaded that way.
Just because something is disabled, doesnt mean it aint doing stuff you dont know about Just like how turning off your iphone doesnt really mean its off DO NOT TRUST THEM
@@CiaranMaxwell I know this is true of win11. The real shutdown function is hidden by default, the "shut down" you see is actually basically hibernate. You can turn it back on so that you have shutdown and hibernate showing. It wouldn't surprise me if there were still background functions running when your phone is "off".
@@BouncingTribbles I have made sure to turn that off on every machine I've ever owned or maintained (I used to be company internal IT) since Windows 8. "Fast Boot" causes so many issues. Disable it via GPO Prefs so it gets re-disabled on every log in. That way, if Microsoft stealthily re-enables it (which they've been known to do), it only hibernates once. That the feature is still there bothers me to no end. Sometimes, a reboot is enough to fix a problem. Sometimes, you need to cut power to a device to clear a problem with it. Guess what a reboot doesn't do. A proper shut down both clears memory and cuts power to a device. Stupid decision that should have been undone when SSDs became common.
I work as an operator in a municipal drinking water treatment plant, also in PA. We use Microsoft and Windows for everything, and cyber attacks are an increasing, terrifying reality that we have to face every day. I cannot tell you how much I hate this... This software will literally be a lockpick for hackers looking to terrorize entire cities from home. This is an immediate threat to safe and reliable operation of town water and sewer systems. These tech companies are a menace and they must be held accountable. Also, never get divorced... You're so cute together, and I ship you unapologetically 😂
Has your company contacted your mayor, City Council, governor's office, state representatives, Congressman, senator, state adjutant's office (National Guard leadership), sheriff's office, FBI, etc?
As much as they only have to be better than the competition and it's frustrating, don't trust any corporation, the best thing I did was switch to an iphone. It won't go "hey here's everywhere you've been since you asked me to stop tracking you, isn't that fun?"
It’s phones and tablets. Me and the wife talk about a trip in car then like magic FB ads, RU-vid ads, and Google search engine banners for airline tickets, hotels, ect for the exact location we talked about. Not a single internet search being done. 😂😂😂 Big brother always listening 😢😢😢
Google is not only doing its own approach of that, but it uses our cellphones to listen to every single word we say and write. They not only listen to our cellphone calls but also listen when we are not using the cellphone. Even if you have it in your pocket, in your purse, on a table feets away from you, in your car's glove compartment, you name it. There have been so many times when I talk about something (face to face with someone) that never mentioned before, and a few minutes later, I get an advertisement about it on RU-vid. It pisses me off.
Smart televisions all mostly have a microphone built into the remote for you to be able to use your voice to search. So yes, your smart televisions are always listening to you.
it can listen asmuch as it wants, it's not going to do anything with the info since it's not connected to the internet. i even turn off all sensors on my phone (which includes the microphone) when not in active use.
Memory! Filling up unexpectedly fast! How I wish you would last! Just allow me one more task! To delete your Recall pro-gram-ming and allow me to get back to my game-ing!
WHAT ABOUT THE HIPPA VIOLATIONS!!! We should all sue! I dont think you signed that away and if you have any health records or PI info they are breaking the law.
They're not just breaking the law. They are violating the Constitution of the United States. If the Law itself cannot search your premise, your property, your home, your belongings without a legal, lawful and signed search warrant within the proper jurisdiction, where do they come off of thinking that they can spy on you 24-7? We all need to send this reply to their severs in an infinite play back loop that they cannot stop, disable, nor remove ever: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0VZRDaBuFrs.html then press charges against them for high treason for violating the US Constitution provided you're a US citizen, and if the government is involved, backs or supports them in this endeavor, charge them too!
I miss the days of Windows NT, myself. I wish we could go back to the BBS days where Internet was in its infancy, and there were just pockets of people you could connect with and talk to on a regular basis. These intimate communities were better in so many ways than what the Internet has become today.
There's an old saying. "A secret among two is compromised, but a secret among three or more is no secret at all." This is terrible and all it would take is a single bad actor at Microsoft to make one mell of a hess with this information. It's also bad enough that Microsoft is taking this data at all. There are zero good reasons for them to be collecting data like this.
@@kylarquinn3325 how does one move to Linux btw? i mean the easy way, to someone who doesn't use their PC for more than general video games and media consumption?
@@5226-p1e You could look up Linux Live USB and try the OS without removing Win10. You could also consider creating a virtual PC using Oracle VirtualBox but it tends to be slower since its running in a window inside your main system. Linux distros you could consider is Ubuntu, Mint or Manjaro. I'm still a forever n00b when it comes to Linux, so I'm sure others will be able to give you a better option. I was able to breath a little bit of new life into one of my Win 10 laptops setting it up as a duel boot and uses Manjaro. I'm probably going to fully remove Win 10 from it closer to Win 10 end life.
They will put it back in 3 months, under a new name, and mandatory. Or break it up into different functions and keep it hidden and the average person will not be able to notice it, but they will still collect.
Your smartphones can hear and record what you say through the built in microphones, even your kids phones can hear you. These people have been at it for decades.
Yep, and it can hear you from inside the house while you’re outside. Mine does and recommends RU-vid videos based on stuff other people have said, even though I have all listening features, including Siri, off.
@@strawpiglet All that and they're even putting similar tech in air-conditioning and other utilities. It's like they want to turn the whole world into the village from The Prisoner.
If they can't do it publicly, they'll do it silently. There's a whole heap of things hidden in the codes of Windows that very few people know about that are active at all times on your PC. You bet that they will ensure this is activated and hidden well below the surface and use it to its full extent. When someone tells you who they are or what they will do, believe them.
People are getting lazy AF. If people did things for themselves we won’t be going in this direction. Oh the absolute horror of getting the fat ass off the couch to change a tv channel. We can’t even be bothered to use a finger to press a remote button.
@@arthurpendragon3000 OMG If my tv had actual real buttons instead of those godawful sensor areas I'd junk my remote. I can't stand all this touchpad sh*t. I wish I could install toggle switches on all my devices.🙃
I believe since the Windows 2000 I used to deactivate lots of sh*t. It always runs lots of absolutely unuseful software since the moment you install it. It's crazy, actually.
My dad has been trying to get me and my brothers to switch to Linux for years, as a gamer, windows just felt better. (Although I never even checked Mac and barely Linux) But with ALL the copros going security and privacy breach on us, I think its time to switch. Also with it being an election year in the USA this breach of privacy may also be politically motivated too.
There are many yTube vids that talk and show how to learn LINUX. Its a great s ystem but there is a slight learning curve. But it does not have MICROSOFT getting your key strokes sent to them every day. There are ways to run windows programs on Linux or you can use Win 8.1 to run some programs. if you use that, protect it with DEEP FREEZE on windows. It prevents changes.
9:53 I was once talking about electric bicycles. No chat, no activated recording software (supposedly), just my TV and/or phone. Shortly after that conversation I get an ad for electric bicycles. Never gotten that ad before. Them listening in on conversations and online activity is no longer a conspiracy theory but a fact, imo.
The major problem isn't personal information. Companies and Government use Windows. Medical, Employee Records, Military Records, Criminal Records, etc. All of this information could be forward to Microsoft. Now, Microsoft can release it's version of Photoshop, MacOS, etc.
@@0692XAThe Server OS could be Unix running on a PDP-11. A user requests data from the "Server" that data is displayed to the user. "Recall" would "screen shot" the data being displayed and store the data locally. The data would be stored on multiple machines. That is a security problem.
When Microsoft said that Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows I'd ever need, they were right - I won't be touching Windows 11. When 10 dies its final death, I'll be finding a new OS which is sad as I've used Windows since the 1980s.
This is like when you switch the microphone off on your Google home device and then give it a voice command … and the Google Hone device responds saying it’s microphone is turned off.
It's not enough. I want the option to completely uninstall it and for it to stay gone ala future Windows updates.There's no feasible reason for it to be there even deactivated. No one in their right mind is going to want it on.
Once had a conversation about wolverine origins jacket with my missus ("pretty dung film but his jackets cool" or something to that extent). No googling just glass of wine and movie night. Both our phones had Facebook adverts for those jackets for about a month. The phones..... they listen.
Piracy is almost ALWAYS a problem of Service. Amd guess what? Violating our Privacy, banning us from a whole ass ecosystem of software for mere DRAWINGS.... Then comes the damned PC OS spying even more than just the keyboard inputs and now taking undesired screenshots at random... And they want US to think these aren't service related problems? I may come back once they fucking end the Live service everything BS, profusely Apologize while succing my Deck down here, and also go Loud and clear against every damn asshoe of the Woke/Lefterfism/Pro-Censorship camp the same way and as long they did shit on my side. FOR A YEAR MINIMUM while i see if they truly are more than "Sowwy" and are SORRY for reals. I ain't poking their existence with even a stick the length of the distance between our Solar system and Alpha Centauri.
It would be unethical if the corporations were ethical but they are making slaves of the customers. Once they respect us then they’ll be less pirating (it’ll never go away). Right now pirating is beginning to take the aspect of protesting and not completing financial reasons.
If you have been using Windows for the past 20 years knowing how they operate, you deserve what you get with such amazing Linux options available for use.
i've switch to Fedora the day the recall thing blew up. Never gonna go back to Windows, i don't care if things i utilized don't work on Linux, they will on future if everyone does switch, and if they don't, so be it, i won't let this happen without fighting it. People need to stand for their freedom, simple as that!
The only reason I'm typing this on a Windows 11 computer is that new software has stopped running on Windows 7, and some older software has even begun updating itself to _stop_ supporting 7. Windows- and most of Microsoft's line-up- is increasingly a problem trying to sell itself as a product, prodding the user with new "features" that no one wanted or asked for to justify its existence. What does 2024 subscription-based Word do that one couldn't with any word processor of 20 years ago, aside from produce a bigger file that other software can't read?
I am a deep user of EXCELL. My biggest gripe with Win 8 and then 8.1 was that they wanted Office on subscription. but thats not all. THEY CHANGED the programs. I now use a 1979 version of EXCELL because you can use some great formulas that the new EXCELL won't run. with 1997 EXCELL I can make a formula that will call up a video on youtube, like it is a menu, only on EXCELL, or open sheets, etc. They took a lot out of thenew EXCELL and I won't use it, I wont pay subscription either. Linux forever
I still have windows 7 on my other computer. I will never update that and use all the non subscription softare I have on it. MS Security updates still work for Windows 7. I install them weekly.
@@DawnClark-wj9ix -- yes the updates are available but there have not been any new updates for years now. your op system will catch up and then you are done. I still suggest installing DEEP FREEZE to prevent any virus or other problem programs. but if you want to make changes you must thaw DEEP FREEZE. I save docs and such to an external drive for ease of use, dont forget to make your back up.
This blatant disregard for privacy has to stop. Mac has the same problems with a different coat of paint. Their user base is even more gullible so less people complain. But remember the NSA had a firmware backdoor on every HDD for about two decades without anyone noticing.
I found it interesting when I put a VPN on my phone and my phone suddenly started not working correctly. I brought it into Apple and they said that VPNs mess with their software and that I cannot have a VPN. They designed it so that we cannot have privacy. I suppose that’s what I get for having an Apple, but it wouldn’t shock me if all other phones were the same.
This is a national interest. It’s well past time Congress actually pass a privacy law to forbid companies from accessing ANY personal info. Period. All cookies are to be anonymous and not tied to a name. Work product using the tool cannot be accessed for any reason. Oh, and DONT use any cloud service.
These companies WILLINGLY give data to any alphabet agency that merely hints they are interested in the data. It gains them favor with the government. Apple seems to have a fairly strong backbone to push back though.
Government is 3/4 of the problem here. They *want* those vulnerabilities and backdoors. Unless you can somehow convince the Convention of States movement to make it a priority....but that would be a long shot.
The issue is too much tech illiteracy. People's eyes typically glaze over at the words "power button." So computer software companies and hardware manufacturers seized upon this ignorance to decide that everything needs to "just work" immediately out of the box. Including all the features they decide for people to want. This has been years in the making, and it's hard to even feel sorry for people at this point.
@@bastardferret869 Exactly. Plus our education system is NOT doing its job in teaching folks the fundamentals they actually need to know, and that's a systemic issue that's been going on for decades now.
A security breach is only a security breach if some unknown and unexpected group accesses all the data. Many groups that we would NEVER approve of regulary access all the data.
I've been shouting that this stuff was coming for years. That "subscription ware" was just a big brother system. People called me a conspiracy theorist and that companies would be too afraid of losing their customers. Microsoft is only backing up temporarily, they'll wait for things to settle down and slip in a different TOS that gives them the right to do it anyway.
C-Porn can also be a giant problem! Imagine a daughter who just for fun takes some photos of herselfnaked and stores it on the computer, now do MS take a screenshot and send it to MS. What if that gets hacked or an employee finds it "too interesting"?!
So far I've uninstalled every piece of Adobe, and I've been digging through my system to find every report and cloud setting on my computer and disable it. I uninstalled or disabled every piece of copilot and onedrive I could find. I noticed recently that your desktop is in a onedrive folder chain and I became engaged. There is a very high chance I'll be switching to linux.
I use a sniffer tool to see every IP programs are connecting to and have pretty much every one associated with certain companies, or otherwise unnecessary DNS blacklisted on every device in the network.
I had an older computer with Win 10. The desktop icons kept flickering. I peeled off software and kept stripping it down with no change. Then I realized Onedrive was copying my desktop and documents constantly. I disabled Onedrive and manually deleted my backupped stuff from the MS cloud. All my computers now run fine. I never wanted then doing what they did with Onedrive. Recall is just a more extreme version of what they are doing with Onedrive. They constantly are trying to re-enable Onedrive when they update the OS.
Yes, all devices are listening, mostly through our phones, which are connected in some way to most things. It happens to me and my wife all the time, and it's been happening for years.
I just use blockers, on my android phone I do not use chrome, I use firefox, if I wanna watch a youtube video? I just go to the website in firefox I don't use the app. No annoyances this way and all their targeting of me doesn't matter as I never see it anyway. Yeah I know it exists, but ignorance can be bliss.
I'm still switching to Linux. I don't trust that an update won't simply reactivate this "feature" without notice at a future date, or a hack does it. Banks, hospitals, accounting firms, and any business that holds lots of confidential customer information should strongly consider exiting Windows, especially if you work with any data governed by privacy laws (HIPAA, GDPR, etc.).
@@LV4EVR There are some Windows apps that I don't yet have Linux replacements for, so I do have a Windows PC for those. BUT, the danger with what Microsoft comes from being connected to the Internet. So if the Windows apps I need don't absolutely need to talk to the Internet all the time (such as a license server) then I can use those apps in a LAN with no Internet access. It can get annoying at times copying things back and forth, but the benefits outweigh the annoyance for me allowing me more time to find alternatives.
Anyone remember being a kid and thinking how cool the future would be.. then the older you get, the more you realize how horribly wrong you were.. good times
For the first time in my life I installed a Linux distro on my PC. Still learning it but it’s going really well. I started eons ago with the old IBM PC, running an 8088 and PC-DOS. Had always used Windows. Loved XP and especially(!) Windows 7. I don’t see myself upgrading my hardware and installing Windows 11 ever. It looks like it’s the end of a long journey with Windows.
I think the *REAL* pressure came from corporate system administrators, who completely hated the idea of Copilot+ with Windows Recall. As such, Copilot+ will be turned off by default on the next major update to Windows 11, and you have to manually enable it to make it work.
A lot of companies are not going to like the possibility of MS getting into their systems and getting screenshots of proprietary information. Not. At. ALL.
Yeah, this is why I'm relatively calm about the whole thing. It wasn't just the everyday consumer they pissed off. It was the B2B customers. You know, the ones that spend millions, if not billions, keeping many, many machines online and secure. Businesses, especially large corporate monoliths, for the most part used to trust Microsoft with their data. That's why they make most of their money with services like Azure, IIRC. After this? Not so much. The larger businesses understood this as potentially creating a security nightmare for proprietary data, which could include things as important as medical info. I do not think they will "sneak" it on machines, given that most of the backlash was corporate, but doesn't mean the backlash wasn't warranted. Many people do *not* trust software companies of any kind right now, and Microsoft failed to read the room.
The biggest thing, aside from all the obvious privacy concerns, is security. Right now, recall stores all of its information in an unencrypted database. Hackers have already shown how to access this. This is like a hacker's wet dream, worse than storing your password on a post-it note near your desk. Even if they finally encrypt this database, a hacker will know *exactly* where all your sensitive information is, and I'm sure there will be some way to man in the middle the recall program itself, and stream whatever information is being captured by recall to a malicious attacker.
So even the promised encryption was a lie? We can't trust MS at all in this then, they don't care at all what happens to your information and will keep collecting all of it in all of their ways. For publicity they'll claim this is not the case... but it seems it could just all be lies.
This is why I switched to Linux a long time ago. I use an old version of Windows to play offline games. Windows and Adobe have nothing in software that Linux developers haven't created a similar program of. It's to the point that I get lost trying to use these "mainstream" software packages because I have used their open source equivalents for so long.😅
Guys, the current CEO of Microsoft is Satya Nadella, and I've heard it could even be his idea (that Total Recall). I think that the more ALL tech companies will force feed us with AI the more backlash they get. I was so damn excited about AI not so long ago, now I'm totally fed up with it. It's the same story like with computers and touchscreens in cars. I love computers, I love touch screens - just NOT INSTEAD OF ERGONOMIC CAR CONTROLS! I love ChatGPT, because it's not a part of my OS, application or anything, it's separate web service I use when I want.
"Is the damn TV remote listening?" Yes. Amazon Firesticks have voice command and work with/just like Alexa. Why would you assume a microphone that you do not hardware control, isn't listening?
If you had a recent update, look up under you 'Apps & Features.' You should notice Microsoft installed the W10 copilot for you already. If it's there, think abt switching to Linux.
Yep, I have win10 on my main and 11 on a secondary computer to see if it was ready for prime-time and was about ready to transition over when Microsoft announced this new spyware on steroids and I nopped the f out of that idea. IF enough independent experts can say that it is indeed not automatic nor mandatory for long enough I may reconsider.
Yes, the Amazon Fire Stick has Alexa always on and recording. So despite your claim, you do have a smart device in your home. Might want to check if that can be disabled.
i destroyed the microphone on the tv and remote use a safe pin tip to destroy the resever membrane and tested could he me say any think even shouting in to it i had some on give me a alexia once i thru away the next day
Imagine malware getting onto your computer and turning it on and giving access to your data to the hacker who made the malware, and I’m not talking about Microsoft here.
