For those complaining about price you do relieze this goes up agaisnt the wacon 27" Display that goes for $2800 WITHOUT a PC right? AKA this thing www.amazon.com/Wacom-Cintiq-27QHD-Creative-Display/dp/B00R7QJAHY So having the PC built in makes sense and most of the price is for the display itself. THIS IS NOT A CONSUMER LEVEL PRODUCT.
Hollychan it's a first generation product, I think we can forgive Microsoft for their blunders. it's not perfect, but there is still room for improvement in the future the more they add on to this product.
What's not up to spec? You do realize that Wacom is usually behind on the actual hardware that they put into their cintiqs right? The 27 QHD is not 4K, and it doesn't have a wide color gamut.
Wacom is working on a universal pen that's supposed to work on a multitude of devices. This new pen will support 4096 levels of pressure and tilt. I don't care about tilt though, because I rarely used it when sculpting or inking/painting. Different styluses are definitely not necessary, as they have a variety of different tips. The dial helps you scrub through animation timelines, change colors, layers, brush sizes and loads of other options. Saying that this is not for industry professionals is very short sighted.
What are you basing your comment about a lag on? And it's a pen not a pencil and the Surface Pen has way more functionality. If the MSM and press would turn it up a notch and do unbiased reporting Apple would have been in trouble years ago. The media hates Microsoft so much that the only things they report on are Microsoft miscues. Kind of sad but expected given how heavily invested they are in certain subjects, ideologies, etc.
I went by the Microsoft kiosk today not expecting to see this there but boy oh boy was it there and on full display. First of all, the Microsoft rep was making some nice beats with the Music Maker Jam program and he let me use one of the art apps. I smiled from ear to ear the entire time. I just love this piece of hardware. I think I filled out an application to be a rep before I left.lol
If you're not utterly impressed with what Microsoft it providing for such a relatively low price, than you are not a part of this device's target market. So many young people on here who don't work professionally in the design market are comparing it to their full sized custom desktops.
Perfect summary! I think that's the issue with the consumer based market that's been going on for years. Microsoft clearly said they're going to focus on creators. This machine is for those people.
$3000 for 4.5K 28" touchscreen display with DCI-P3 color gamut itself it a good deal. not to mention this one has i5 processor, dedicated graphic, windows 10 support from microsoft, pen, keyboard and mouse. for quick comparison, 15" macbook pro 2016 model sold at $2900 and no touchscreen
Evan Andika stupid ass it's 2300 dollars for a MacBook Pro 15' with i7 and a dedicated graphics card Microsoft studio is just an over priced outdated shit
You don't get it. Pros have been paying $3k for just a monitor that isn't even as good as this screen. Having a gaming laptop built into the base for this price is a steal.
Thank you for this wonderful first look. Will you be doing a review of the Surface Book with the performance base? I'm looking to replace my stolen pro 4 but I wonder if the spec bump is worth the price.
great video! thanks! just curious, what is the app you have up where you enlarged the white background picture with your fingers? it looks like some photo editing software...?
i went to the microsoft store to try this. it is a beautiful design and the hinge is amazing. ultimately i found it somewhat overwhelming: just big. Many have debated the specs but i am concerned that this is not as good a solution as using a traditional desktop along with a tablet. Wacom 16", where are you??
I hope you can do a review on surface on video editing and colorgrading on davinci to show the power of Surface studio that will be great fro use film makers.
actually if you want a computer for video editing or gaming| it is better to build your own pc that is gonna be supper powerful for the same price the touch screen will not be useful for you they made this device for animators and people who interested with digital drawing
Uhm, I tried once Davinci on my cintiq companion: That software is so demanding I couldn't do even the simplest task with it. I wouldn't want to buy a pc with mobile cpu and gpu to work with that beast of a software.
Hi, great video as usual. Do you have any info on developing for this device? Is there a programme shipping units out early to developers of creative tools?
Beautiful machine and a neat idea. I wish they would have made the base a little larger to accommodate a higher TDP CPU/GPU. After all, if it's assumed that you will at some point use the screen folded down towards the table, what does it matter if the base is a little larger? I get wanting an elegant looking device but proportions matter. I think in general, we have gone a little crazy with thinness and lightness and it not only compromises the performance of devices, but also their looks.
Man they should have just made the base bigger and then included a 1060 GPU and a full desktop 4-core I7 and it'd be perfect. As it is though it's really not worth it for the price unless your heavy into graphic design.
Make the base bigger and put in some pro level components. It's not like we're going to be carrying it around! I love the design thought. I wish they did that display and dial separately. Do you have any more information about Dells upcoming studio competitor?
Correlation between Dial and Door Knobs, well said Ma'am and wouldn't it be nice if specific user could choose their own configurations as per their requirements, what you say?
Hi Lisa, really interesting look at the new Surface hardware! Looks like Microsoft is stealing a march on Apple this time around. I love your videos, your expertise with the displays, cameras, and especially the pen/tablets is really helpful. Any chance you'll be doing a review of the Surface Book with Performance Base/i7?
Hi Lisa, your reviews are amazing and very informative, probably the best out there and one's that I rely on. Can you please do a review on the Lenovo Yoga 910?
The machine was definitely exciting to see, very innovative, but again as mentioned by others it is not a gaming machine so you have to keep that in mind. However, I would like to know what that was she was playing on this video.
Considering that they put a lot of emphasis on the "STUDIO" part, it has a very bad pen technology for a machine that expensive... no tilt, no rotate... IDK how many levels of pressure sensitivity, parallax and lag... but the jitter/wobbly lines when you draw slowly is still there... For artist (or perhaps designer), perhaps a $2,000 PC and a Cintiq (Wacom just released their new toys and perhaps will release some more) will serve them much better.
It worked fine for a couple of hours and then the screen started to flicker. I called Razer and said it was probably a hardware issue. then I find out that Windows 10 and nvidia have had compatability issues. It's weird that when I play games there is no flicker. So I'd you're only playing games then go for it
Can the dial be used when not placed on the screen? Another thing is that is this a good buy if I were to buy this even though I have a computer with better specs? It is for creators, but does this include video editors since it has m series cards and I've heard that I doesn't come with a ssd? A big thing is that it doesn't have type c as well. I am a creator/graphic designer but is this a good product compared to a Wacom comparing not price but features, one that is mobile that is? I would recommend this for design agencies but it it a good buy for an individual ?
Would be interesting if the dial had a touch sensitive surface for gestures and cursor movement. I'd rather use that than a traditional mouse. Seems odd to have both.
Without having tried the touch bar nor the dial, I would presume the touch bar is far more versatile for creative works since you're not forced to move in +/-1 increments with the touch bar.
$500 compared to what? Can you please clarify? Plus, the Touch Bar is using an OLED display. Displays aren't the cheapest components. It's also being powered by what is comparable to the Apple Watch internals. So, even if it were $500 more (please clarify that statement), it doesn't seem any more expensive to me than previous models of the MacBook Pro. Not to mention, at least the MacBook Pro comes with USB-C connectors. The Surface here isn't future proof.
Chris Morris Of course the one with touchbar and without touchbar and last year Macbook with SD card reader!! Yeah, USB C and they dump Steve Job idea of magsafe, and your shiny oled? Samsung already have it since Galaxy S2, it's not expensive even Alcatel cheap phone shit have it! They only think about money, not their customers anymore like Steve did!
***** What about the brilliant new display? I'm fairly sure it's the best display on the market. The improved speakers, the smaller case (tends to be more expensive to manufacture). You can't ignore these factors out of the price.
the pen is a deal breaker for me. I would only use it to draw and for general use (office, gaming and browsing). If the pen is subpar, what's the point? Looks super awesome though and that puck has me drooling. Wish apple would do this...
This is neat, but it can't be drawn on like other professional solutions and it has last generation graphics. I don't really see the value or desired application of the device. I was really excited about this.
Every time I lay the screen down and put my arm on it to draw something, I had a feeling that I would crush the giant screen...Also, the angle is so weird and my arms are so tired now...That dial, which claims to be so efficient by Microsoft, turns out to be quite futile and limited. Just my first impression.
They should have done what Alienware did and included a port for installing a newer video card. I would never spend this much, especially since I can only draw stick figures but it is a pretty sweet machine and a nice step forward as a reference design.
I really, really like this and would love one. Thanks for a great review. However the limitations of the pen are an issue for me. I'm using a Wacom Intuos Pro at the moment and even that has great pen facility. Might be a new Wacom for me... If I had the cash, I'd have both :-D
Aw, it's so underpowered! I was expecting the bottom would be bigger to be able to accommidate upgrades and powerful cards and such. This seems like a copout.
Wow, Amazing... Not been this excited about a design station since I saw the Ti back in 2000 There is no need for Tilt support for retouching, comping and vector blueline work. Not everyone using a wacom are illustrators. You also do not need gaming level GPU - the fast dedicated video ram and work offload to the GPU is what you are looking for. I've been working on a Vaio Canvas for the last year and the Quad HQ and Iris GPU have done the job perfectly - and this is even more powerful (with the same stable Ntrig tech for the digitizer). Not even going to go into how visually distracting the massive bezel on the Cintiq is when using it as a design monitor or the extra 400 dollars for the stand to even get that capability. Also, if you tax-deduct this for your home studio (at 3500 you would be crazy not to) you can't install anything that is not work related on it. So no web/print design station can legally be a gaming rig anyway - it is like a macbook pro - you buy it for work.
On one hand, it is disappointing that this does not come with a 10 series NVidia card. But, on the other hand, this is not a hardcore gaming machine. Those 900 series NVidia cards, while ever so slightly out of date, are still solid cards, and should serve this device and what most people are going to do with it just fine.
exciting product, there are Two problems with MS though. Execution (details like drivers, ..) and Distribution - these are two areas where Apple shines when launching new products
Well that is the problem, MS is not so used to writing-optimizing their own drivers (historically it was up to the HW manufacterer), ironic, huh? Friend of mine was one of the first buyers of Surface Book and let me tell you, that thing wasn't production ready. At all.
I really love the design but a bit out of my price range... I hope they will introduce smaller "consumer" machines with different screen size, price points and performance levels, maybe a 19" (1080p) display for about $1500.00... Vapp..........
Hi Lisa, Request you to review Asus Q324UA 16gb/512 model which is available in Best Buy. Really appreciate your review. Quite helpful in decision making. Thanks
Answer us, Lisa. You've never played that game right ? :D :D You tried to touch when in the game guidance :D :D the 1st mission :D 5:35. We can see the dial was sliding off the screen.
There should have been a non-touch version of that thing priced under $2000, if they really wanted to make the 1st Microsoft branded desktop PC popular among most of the people around the world. $3000 is quite out of reach of most of us.
they could argue their designing timing didn't match nvidia's 1000 series release, but we consumers dont care, you're essentially selling old hardware for today's price, not fun, that and the newest nvidia cards outperform the last gen way more than we have seen before with even lower TDPs, just makes no sense to cripple a brand new product with such old hardware, and this thing and the book are both pushing uber high resolutions, gpu priority should be paramount
It competes agaisnt this www.amazon.com/Wacom-Cintiq-27QHD-Creative-Display/dp/B00R7QJAHY and yes that is just a display ONLY for $2800 and is the market that The Surface Studio is for hence why you see a lot of people using it for drawing
Hhmmm, so the Wacom cintiq is still better for drawing and can be hooked up to any system PC or Mac. Also the screen looks very smooth and slippery unlike the cintiq.
apologists. an i5 in 2016 for a $3k machine is an utter joke. a mobile GPU in 2016 for a $3k is joke. no one's missing the point. the hardware does not match the price, period.
trevorpinnocky Dude you forget 28" 13 millions pixels dual sensitizer display, that thing is the star of this show I'm not even talking about surface dial compatible and zero gravity hinge yet, do you think it take overnight to design those things?
hardware is fine for it's size. If you wanted full desktop specs, it wouldn't fit in this unit. The majority of the cost is the display. Professionals that this targets would easily pay $3k just for the display before this came out.
