Mig 15 vs Hawker Sea Fury | Untold Story from the Korean War | 

Sea Fury, son of Tempest, I like that expression :) Tempest, son of Typhoon Typhoon, son of Hurricane

@@Johnny-Thunder Subsonic Harrier versus Argentine Mach 2 fighter jets. Kicking arse runs in the family.

@@raypurchase801 The Hawker dynasty is a glorious one indeed.

raypurchase No big deal with the Sea Fury as the P51 Mustang was credited with 120 of the Me262's and the p47 25 !! if the sea fury could not get to where the Me262's were, over Berlin it did not matter, in Korea F51's got Migs as did the F4U Corsair and theF82 the twin Mustang got the first one !!!

Thanks David

@Keanu Kalel Hey, did you know that you and Vicente Andres joined youtube the exact same day! What a coincidence! /s

The best looking (and best sounding) piston plane ever.

You know what they say - If it looks right it probably is right.

The A-10s are ugly mofos but they got the job right as well. They sound nice as well

@@ramal5708 eh, A-10s just look bland. Rare type of engine placement and vertical stabilizer, but overall just looks normal. Probably because I’ve learned about some weird and bad looking aircraft.

@@HeidiLandRover P51 MUSTANG say hold my beer !!!!!

oh please..This is about Fleet Air Arm operations ..how come videos like these always get hijacked by Yanks ,Yes many people of different nationalities flew in planes during the war.. So what if your brother in law flew in a B25 .. This is not about Yanks or B25's It is not always about you big headed Yanks you know !

@@kittyhawk9707 British people have a hard time not getting triggered by people opinions

@@kittyhawk9707 There is stuff from Americans that I don't like but your comment is just cheap. He is not doing the RAF or Fleet Air Arm Down he is just talking about a relatives experience. Please show some decency.

Calm down silly bollocks.

@Incog Nito No.2 Group RAF (Bomber Command) used the Mitchell II's (B-25C and D models) in the ETO, with 98, 180, 226 and 329 Squadrons and No. 13 OTU but later also 320(Dutch) and 342 (Free French) Squadron RAF used Mitchel II's. It was also used in the Far East by 681 and 684 Squadron RAF (as Photo recon plane). Both RCAF (only for training) and RAAF No 2 and No 18 Squadron RAAF also used the B-25. All B-25 models considered about 900 went into service with the RAF, 162 with the RCAF and about 150 with the RAAF.

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@@usernamesreprise4068 in the imortal words of that great American thinker, Archie Bunker, whateva.

@@JamesThomas-gg6il Ha ha was "he" a linguistic artisan too ? by the way it was a helpful correction to a possible typo not a put down.

@@usernamesreprise4068 oh yeah i got that, thanks. My skin isnt that thin.

Great engine!

It's was a double in 1 instance.

@@michaelgautreaux3168 THEY still shot the B@$t@rd down !!!!!

Too right, what a shitty officer.

@@casinodelonge Pretty poor standards.

that was the standard at the time, you idiots would come their standards today so shut up

@@plinnytheother6107 No, poor behavior by an officer would be called out by any rank. 'So shut up'.

@@plinnytheother6107 That was NOT the standard at the time... though, from what you've written, I accept it would probably have been your standard at that, or indeed any other, time.

edwinbest yep had to get a decent engine in it to get it airborne !!! !

The A-1 is also an insane aircraft.

What was amazing is that the A-1 Skyraider's cannons were not optimised for air to air combat.

@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv - that’s why an A-1 Skyraider shooting down a Mig-17 (TWICE) is a much more impressive feat.

The A1 didn't even have an air to air gunsight ,quite an achievement.

@@sebastianjohansen2142 A-1 was a huge bomb and rocket carrying ground attack aircraft

That sort of thing went on across the board during and after WW2, look what they did to Alan Turing..

I have seen a list of Russian Communist Fighter Pilots that were 'ordered' to North Korea. Some scored kills against US aircraft. As they were forbidden to fly south of the front lines, None that were shot down ever had their bodies captured and identified as evidence.

This guy does a shit job of explaining anything. Phantoms going out at Mach 2 and coming back around... Wtf? I stopped watching...

Lucky? He knew the exact shell that would hit and exactly where it would hit the MiG. Bridge anyone?

Indeed. Great Pilot. Although they are slightly different manoeuvres and the Scissors was developed a year or 18 months before the US entered the war ( After 829 days).

@@realMaverickBuckley YOUR European war was NOT our war until we were attacked and then both Germany and Japan learned to regret that silly move as they awakened a sleeping giant industrial country that just out produced both in war material !! !

Sea Fury was in Royal Navy (RN) service, this story is about the RN Fleet Air Arm, totally different customs to the RAF. I would think that a person who has been making a living as a historian/author would know of what he speaks.

@@JohnHill-qo3hb Re: A 'historian/author knowing of what he speaks', it's not necessarily so. Sometimes people speak/write erroneously - with or without deliberation. In this particular instance it appears (to me at least) that the 'historian' is somewhat afraid of 'rocking the boat' (aircraft carrier!), rather than calling a spade a spade. Wrt the historian's so called 'standard at the time', had that been so, i.e., the kill being credited to the flight leader - as a standard, there'd have been no need for Carmichael to rid his plane of some ammo (into sand); unless, that is, Carmichael had premeditatedly resolved to cheat... and cheating is never a standard, no matter what a historian (Lord preserve us!) may claim by way of 'mealy mouthed' words. Maybe the historian should have used "convention" rather than standard, though even so the reality, as far as I'm concerned, would still be that Carmichael cheated - and I for one wouldn't have wanted to play poker with him, as he'd probably be one to claim not just to have all of the aces, but to be them!

Of course they had gun cameras- why no reference to that?

Is that you, Corporal Jones ?

@@DavidOfWhitehills They don't like it up em

The Royal Navy taught the americans how to land them on carriers!

Seems like their system was set up to give out medals to the wrong pilots. I can't think of anything that would impact morale more than to award the wrong pilots medals for combat action.

JC ..................I remember an article 40 + yrs ago stating the problem with cannons in WW 2 and Korea was a slow cycling rate , hence the late intro on the F 86s ????

@@dannycalley7777 I had always read that, at least for the RAF. The reason they were not widely used sooner, was that they would often malfunction after a few rounds and it would be next to impossible to clear a jam in the air. They were crammed into spaces that weren't originally designed with 20mm cannons in mind.

Yes fascinating, looks like they gone to a good home.

@@PlaneHunters John Smith, who stored the aircraft in his barn, died last year. His farm is at Mapua, near Nelson. His collection wasn't well known outside aviation circles and when the barn was opened and the Aladdin's Cave of aviation treasures seen for the first time there was suddenly a lot of public interest. The Mosquito has gone to the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, at Blenheim, for restoration to display condition. Being New Zealand's Mosquito experts, some of the AvSpecs guys at Ardmore came down to help the Omaka people with the dismantling and transport of the aircraft. The P51 has gone to Ohakea, where Brendon Deere will restore it to flying condition. There were at least two other aircraft in the barn, that I know of: a Harvard and a famous RNZAF P40, that flew in the Pacific, before being returned to NZ. I haven't heard what will happen to them, but, no doubt, someone has something in mind. Mr Smith also had a Lockheed Hudson which I saw in a hangar at the Classic fighters Omaka 2019 air show. It now features in the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre's "Dangerous Skies" exhibition ( www.omaka.org.nz ). Free plug: if anyone reading this is ever in Blenheim, the Aviation Heritage Centre museum is a great place to visit.

Bit pedantic,surely. The airframe distributes force and loads in many ways, so it is arguable that the forward loading is transmitted from the tail since the airframe and the power plant comprise one cohesive whole.

Brave man, I believe they were encouraged to avoid turning dogfights against the 109 and use the mosquitos speed advantage to gun and run, he must have been nearly tearing his wings off!

Were they FW 190’s or Bf109’s?

Wing commander wow. I thought I'd read about the Banff strike wing tangling with fighter's. I found this.. January 11 1945. Mixed strike force of fourteen Mosquito’s from Banff and eighteen Beaufighters from Dallachy flew an armed strike to Flekkefjord to attack shipping reported there. Whilst preparing for the strike they were intercepted from the North by approx. six ME 109s and FW 190s, while at the same time at Lister airfield a similar group of fighters took off and attacked the formation from the South. Luring the engagement various dog fights ensued which finished when the enemy fighters climbed into cloud cover. Three enemy fighters were seen to be shot down, Flight Lieutenant M. Russel DFC, and another Mosquito crew sharing a claim in destroying a ME 109. A further German fighter was claimed as a probable. The strike wing lost two aircraft, a Beaufighter and Mosquito "M" of 143 squadron, which did not return from the strike although it was ‘not seen to be shot down’.The crew of this plane were; Flight Sergeant P.C.L. Smoolenaers (Belgium) and his navigator Flight Sergeant W.W. Harris (RAAF) both reported missing. This was one of the rare occasions when, the six pounder ‘Molins gun’, of the MK XVIII (Tsetse) Mosquito’s belonging to 248 squadron, was fired in air-to-air combat, normally it was used for anti-shipping strikes.

@@David.Bobson That's very interesting, thanks for the information, I imagine that if the Tsetse Mosquito fired at any aircraft and hit it, the enemy 'plane would have just been blown apart instantly.

@@timelwell7002 I agree. But probably not the best air to air weapon.

Interesting to know.

Peter Carmichael was my C/O in Sea Cadets in the 80s, I did some research on his plane and found out from some contacts in Australia where it was, seems it was part of an airshow but the owner didn't pay his taxes

@chrisgibson … a terrible shame. Taxation is theft !

That’s the British Labour Party for you.

Keep on comforting yourself.

? At the same time the US stabbed the UK in the back by pulling out of all joint projects from Manhattan to the MACH1 challenge... Not until they benefitted from Radar, Jets and the plans for MACH1 capable aircraft... PS I love the US but pisses me off when people have a myopic view and try to rewrite the UK out of facts...

@@seanjohnson7693 Indeed. Its the government rather than the people (as you know). Looks like Biden is about to starve Britain now too due to opting to follow the will of the people. I hope not but I fear our long relationship may come to an end with Biden choosing to side with zee Germans and Ursula Von de Leyen rather than the Brits.

@@strontiumstargazer3124 more specifically, the work of Victor Rothschild, who was the main fifth column for the Soviets.

Thatch weave drew enemy chase plane into your buddies guns. Normally at same level developed to defeat the zero which at that time in the Pacific outclassed the Wildcat. The Hellcat sorted that out. Corsair did as well in Marines hands. Scissors was a manoeuvre to make an attacker overshoot, see here from Wikipedia. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scissors_(aeronautics). The MiG overshot air brakes on and he got shot down. He must have been thinking no no no. Smoo smoked him. Expended full load of 20mm. I like the way he said I thought I should do what I was trained to do and I hit him.

That was my thought too...

Yes, they have gun cameras.

Not all kills are on-boresight-camera-axis kills.

I would think the gun camera image for Carmichael didn't show a MIG...

My understanding is that a kill is verified by gun camera recording or eye witnesses able to collaborate the claim.

Time? I'm not sure i follow you?

I would have thought so, given that Spitfires, Hurricanes, Typhoons and Tempests were all fitted with them.

yes

that and the socialist simps

Why? If it's true, it had been an occasion. It happens. Even Po-2 had once "downed" Bf-109 by manoevring.

@@vadimpm1290 I think you have the wrong comment

@@kem9952 I've just said there's no need to turn the tumbs down and explained why.

@@vadimpm1290 If by "Turning the thumbs down" you mean joking about people who disliked the video, then you didn't explain why. You gave an example of a kill that was needlessly bestowed upon a pilot.