@@etiennemiemczyk7081 Start a Satanic jam band. Not doom metal or anything, just normal jamming but everything very consistently sounds like agonizing garbage.
Miles took a "bad" chord and made it music - Herbie took that moment and made it wisdom for the rest of us. I salute this, and hope others can keep building on it.
"Miles didn't heard it as a mistake, he heard it as something that happened, just an event, and so that was part of the reality of what was happening at that moment, and he dealt with it", nice concept there.
*"Do not fear mistakes. There are none."* - Miles Davis, _Miles: The Autobiography_ I relied a lot on this quote by Davis to center myself during the days when I struggled with anxiety attacks.
If you fear mistakes in music, then you will never have the courage to experiment, which is trial and error. Also i have gotten pretty good at covering "mistakes" or more accurately unintended events by repeating them and using them as starting points like miles did. But I doubt Miles even heard it as a mistake
Miles was like, when Herbie fell over the piano, aa that's an #F minor #11 sus 2 with B in the bass, really inovative Herbie. Not like those butter notes you played earlier.
@@Roxanneredpanda And you literally don’t know what order those words should be in, so maybe you should stop trying to correct other people’s grammar, eh?
@@aweik4937 you literally don't understand the possessive case by leaving an apostrophe off "people's" so you shouldn't correct other people correcting other people's posts.
+Brewsk Litovsk I think you mean "tapes". Herbie taped everything in those days according to his autobiography. I'm sure he treasures them to this day. This interview looks like early-mid 80s so Miles was still alive. Joe Zawinul worked with a cassette recorder to record his improvisations and transcribe his tunes from those. At his death there were over 600 tapes, which went to his son. Maybe some day those and Herbie's will be available.
@@Studio-62 The last thing I want if for Herbie, another jazz great, to pass away. So I can't help feeling guilty that I am excited for those tapes to be released haha....
People criticized Miles Davis but could not be more accommodating than he was. All musicians of all races speak highly of him. The man was simply a genius, always reinventing himself and his music!
It sounds like he’s describing this performance at just over 40min: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kJq3j4rA0o0.html Different tune, but the minute long pause he took that he was talking about is there
This is one of the most important and key things to being a musician/playing in a band, being able to follow each other and adapt to what each person is playing.
I was fifteen when Future Shock came out, still have it on cassette. As I got older and more into jazz mind was blown on the rest of his career. Awkward being born in 1967, much of my first exposure to Beatles songs was in the awful Sargent Pepper movie, talk about a screwed up initial world view.
Isn't that what Jazz is all about. Spontaneity, thinking out of the box, taking something standard and embellishing upon it to create a stylized version of the original. Musical resourcefulness baby !
Honestly, as profound as the lesson is, I think it takes a certain type of intellect to appreciate the fullness of the situation. So, major props to Herbie, and Miles, off course.
I had heard that Myles Davis believed that there are "no wrong notes...just different choices". Well I guess this is a perfect example of his theory. Amazing story.
"Remember, there are no mistakes, only new parts." - Rush's Geddy Lee to audience. "I don't call 'em mistakes, I 'em call happy accidents." -Bob Ross "Worship the Glitch" -Coil
Wow! Not only does that "wrong" chord show what a great musician Miles was, but also the depth of philosophical prospective Herbie was able to glean from it. I wonder if Miles recognized that aspect of his playing. Thanks for the post!
I don't belong in the conversation. But I say it to my kids, "If you are the better man, be the better man. And if you aren't, then why are you complaining." Thank you for the perspective.
I heard Vinnie C.,tell a story about playing with Herbie where he was so blown away by a solo part Herbie played, he stopped playing altogether. After the song or gig, Vinnie told Herbie what happened and Herbie said, “I thought sitting out was your contribution to the song at that moment”. So, it seems Herbie treats his fellow musicians the same way… Class.
Wow ... just discovered that Herbie is 80 years young! It caught my ear that he was playing a gig in the early 60s with Miles ... so Herbie would have been 23ish. Uh ... wow again.
This was a demonstration of his generosity at that particular moment, I consider this something very important, especially in art. I am grateful to Miles for sharing his music and Herbie for giving such a meaningful statement.
It's so crazy watching the laid back Herbie talking about this reunion of giants, where he of course belonged, and make it sound so intimate and enjoyable for all of them.
After he said “I’ve got so many stories I could tell about Myles Davis,” he smiles for a sec, as if he knows a lot of stuff that wouldn’t be appropriate to share lol
People throw the word genius around pretty lightly these days, but Both Herbie and Miles were and are special as musicians beyond any normal ability or achievement. Great story...
When you revolutionize your field - you are usually, technically considered a genius in the creative sense of the word. Miles did that two or three times ...
Level 1: Something bad happens and you say to yourself, "I'm going to make this into something good." Level 2: Something bad happens and you don't even recognize it as being bad.
They rarely make people like Herbie anymore. Genius, well-spoken, and not a douchebag to the media. Just a gent who loves music, is extremely good at it, and wants to talk about it. A professional.
So what I got out of this is that Mr. Hancock must be sitting on an absolute gold mine of stereo reel-to-reel tapes of gigs with this outfit from back in their glory days.
This may be the official explanation of that other video clip that went viral showing Miles giving an angry look to Herbie after he played a chord. People have been speculating like crazy over what that look was about.
The other's video descriptions says: "Miles Davis Quintet Live at Teatro dell'Arte in Milan, Italy on October 11, 1964". So probably not, but would've been funny.
@@Fruchtstand187 maybe, but assuming this video is from the 90s (looks like it from those loud ass clothes Herbie is wearing) that would have been over 30 years ago. Enough for specific details to be lost. Or Herbie just can't stay on Miles' good side. 😄
Yes...this is something I read is Miles' Bio where he said Dizzy and Bird taught him that what determines a bad note during improvising is the very next note(s) you play. Miles said they taught him how to make something magical out of what first was thought to be a mistake. Life lesson for sure!
Wow. I did not expect to gain a tremendous life lesson out of this video, but I sure did. This applies way beyond just playing jazz. There are no mistakes in life, just changes (badum-tish) that you can either adapt to or resent.
Reminds me... I was playing a jazz solo on tenor in a little club in San Jose Calif, and I had my tape recorder going. I was solidly in the zone, not knowing or caring what key we were in or the names of the notes I was playing. My horn was scat singer. There was no me. All of a sudden, a note popped out that was not anticipated. I snapped me out of the zone and let out a yelp - a sort of apology. Surprisingly, members of the audience echoed the yelp. They thought it was enthusiasm.. I played on. At solo's end, the crowd went nuts. I never thought about it until just now, but maybe what I played after the yelp made the wrong note right. What I do know is that when I listened to the tape, the phrase ending with the mistake was wonderful, blue, jazzy. The yelp wasn't bad either.
I recall the tape recorder thing from Miles' book which is one of the best reads I had in my life. I love Herbie, he's such a music scientist with huge heart and soul.
There are 150 people that disliked this video. Why? What's wrong with them? Herbie is nice and a genius and is giving a great piece of advice learned from another genius. And overall he tells it really nice. What's wrong with you that you can't you love it?
@@OdaKa A Pointless, irrelevant, arrogant and stupidly reactionary comment. So you like the extremely rich owning everything, taking more and more, not paying taxes, living above the law, turning the police into a violent militarized racist occupation force and removing our democracy for oligarchy as both the GOP and DNC (twice sabotaged Sanders) filth do? And you blame poor and desperate and the victims of this? Pathetic self glorification ('I am a hard working real man' as though there are not others out there working harder for less or not enough to live properly) reactionary garbage by Mr self Righteous! Oh btw I studied and jammed with Musicians who played with Miles Davis and I love his genius work if not his personality.
@@vladdrakul7851 Oh, btw, I studied and jammed with Musicians who played with Freddy Fortnoy and we all how important that was. And, oh, btw, no one "sabotaged" Bernie, he sold out. Check his bank acct. and home ownership before and after the Clinton/Trump fiasco. Politicians are not heroes, they are arses, "upon whom everyone has sat, except a man." e. e. cummings
@@farshimelt first Freffie Fortnoy is nothing while Miles Davis is an important GENIUS.. 2ND YOUR cheap shallow parrot DROPPINGS are just MSM rhetoric, Tulsi GABBARD DID NOT SELL OUT AND IT CHANGES NOTHING about the fact THAT THE DNC DID WRONG, sabotaging the process of democracy and primaries as well as screwing over yes a cowardly weak Bernie. HOW TIRESOME SUPERFICIAL TOOLS LIKE YOU ARE. ANOTHER POINTLESS COMMENTBY ANOTHER superficial fool. Free Assange! watch and learn. *Biden Will Shut Down Left Voices w/Chris Hedges*
I saw Herbie and Wayne Shorter a few years ago in Tokyo and sat about 20 feet from the stage. Watching them live is mesmerizing... it's more than a concert or gig. They were still incredible (and tireless) at 77 and 84 years old. Esperanza Spalding was on bass and Terri Lyne Carrington on drums. It felt like watching history being made.
That is right! Miles Davis took it as an event, dealt with it and responded in a harmonious way, hence the word responsibility - the ability of a player to respond.
Perfect anecdote to describe what made jazz unique. An adjustment like Miles' can't happen in a classical concert, and no one would care if a wrong note was played in a rock, bluegrass, country, or pop concert (happens a lot, & with no adjustment).
I have not been afraid of "wrong" notes since about 1957. I don't even call them wrong notes. I just regard them as notes premature or delayed notes or misplaced notes.
I love Herbie Hancock. How can you not? I'm a middling pianist with failing hands, but he just makes me love what I CAN do. His brilliance brings me joy and is never at the expense of my own parameters.
Playing in a band involves an insane amount of team work. Team work means that you help your fellow musician, even if they made a mistake during your feature. You'll learn a lot from yourself by making mistakes live. And I mean A LOT!
Miles Davis actually said before that when u fuck up a note in music, the next note (improv) is what can make it work.. like in life, as Henry Miller also said.. “ When you make a mistake drawing, fuck up a line - is it the same as getting a note wrong in your music? The note next to the one you think is bad, corrects the one in front. The idea is you live from moment to moment So in doing that, this moment decides the next step. You shouldn’t be five steps ahead, or concerned with what came before - if you can keep to what is next, you’re always all righT “ you are honest, and what comes after will honour what was a mistake before /l- staying in the moment, making what came off as wrong make sense, flowing honesty, it’s almost like a moment you stifle on expressively. Miles knew it wasn’t a falter.. it was a hard truth and the answer was handle it. Music has that Power to make it right. They were all geniuses. And Herbie got it.
Hm, that doesn’t always work. Sometimes a wrong note is just a wrote note. And when a musician does that slick trick of trying to cover up a wrong note, it’s often obvious to listeners.
It's funny that there is a legendary clip on RU-vid during the era of this story where Herbie interrupted Miles' Solo. Its astounding that we even have such an amount of information to cross reference moments from these times.
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Amazing story. Miles was a genius. He adapted, he improvised, he overcame. This story is proof that when you work with the best, you also become the best.
There's a funny thing about Miles Davis It seems like every time I hear about him as a person, he seems pretty grumpy and serious and bitter and then when I hear about people being with him in the studio it's a neigh spiritual experience being with a master class musician such as him It's like being around the music turns him into a different person Or maybe everyone appreciated those moments more in retrospect Whatever the case, this is a pretty interesting interview
Just came to this after watching the 1988 interview with Miles where he gives his POV - that there are no bad notes, and the next note can correct the "bad" note. So good. Mind expanding.
I guess I read somewhere a saying that a musician is a genius not when plays fast but when he thinks fast. Something like that. Miles Davis certainly fits the saying.
This looks like an old interview though...he literally mentions "computers" and "video cameras" as being high tech That stuff was high tech in the 80s and 90s, computers dont even sell anymore and video cameras went away with VCRs
Long ago, I learned from a frisbee master that there were no mistakes in frisbee throwing, only different opportunities to catch it. Sounds like Miles learned from the same frisbee master.
I have no hesitation in knowing this guy wanders the beaches of Cali in sandals, ripped old jean shorts, an open Hawaiian shirt complete with shell necklace and some old school ray-bans that he will slide down his nose when he decides to grace you with his eyes. He looks for new apprentices to whom he departs his wisdom, and his name is simply Chaz.
A very meaningful experience on stage sounds like a metaphor for life. I have been listening to classical and jazz from Herbie for many years, and also play classical guitar as a hobby. Miles Davis is another unique great artist. Thank you Herbie.
