Tails had an arc in the adventure games Learning for rely on himself and not sonic and become strong in his own way. Now he's kinda dead weight that only serves to tell sonic things he already knows and gets scared of eggmans most basic robots. They absolutely massacred my boi.
Thw thing is I don't think the new Tails is even Miles Prower. I think Miles left Sonic some time before unleashed and the Tails we have now is another two tailed fox inspired by Miles. He is still figuring stuff out which is why he couldn't fix omega in forces. Also the reason he fears chaos is because his hero fought Chaos 4 and he feels like if he loses he would let down Miles which is why he got so scared.
@@at-rexontheinternet1388 well this new fox needs to step it the *fuck* up, tails got shot down in the first game he was in and still kept fighting with sonic
@@jamainegardner4193 He still faced off against larger threats before then. Chaos 4 was about twice the size of Tails, and he stayed calm when Perfect Chaos destroyed an entire city.
It's crazy how they treated Tails recently and even crazier that he basically can't be played as anymore (besides Mania), he became a hero in his own right and then the writers shafted him so much that I personally wanted to think that everything past Adventure 2 is NOT CANON. There needs to be a proper Sonic game that portrays the characters properly and why not bring back Super Tails
Thw thing is I don't think the new Tails is even Miles Prower. I think Miles left Sonic some time before unleashed and the Tails we have now is another two tailed fox inspired by Miles. He is still figuring stuff out which is why he couldn't fix omega in forces. Also the reason he fears chaos is because his hero fought Chaos 4 and he feels like if he loses he would let down Miles which is why he got so scared.
What makes me crazy is that he is confident enough to directly insult (not re all an insult though) shadow in team sonic racing. A spin off is more true to him than a main title.
Tails went from sidekick, to having his own solo heroic moments, and devolved to a useless side character. That goes for every character that's not Sonic actually.
Shadow and Silver gets some development and Knuckles gets some also but they're not Sonic. So they're not getting much development even though they absolutely should.
the hedgehogs are saiyans basically. especially with how they get favored over the other species. not even talking about their super saiyan transformations lol. knuckles is piccolo. 😂 - Twitter’s @SobbleShield (Anthony J DiCarli)
I kinda missed Archie tails, then again, I miss all the Archie versions of the sonic characters. Silver was useful and had a great backstory, shadow wasn’t evil, knuckles was fucking badass, Sonic actually expressed emotions and was allowed to cry. There were times when Archie messed up, but I’d rather take those mess-ups than some soulless sonic.
If it helps "sonic final fantasy" tails(it's a game I used to play as a kid and I think it's getting more installments) Is a beast in a fight I loved playing as him during some battles he really is hero and honestly MVP
Saiyan Scholar: What the Hell happened to Tails Me: Sega of Japan don’t know what to do with Tails or any of Sonic’s friends, Sega focus only on making Sonic look good and not care for the others.
Once the shonen era aka Adventure games ended, the writing for the characters and overall series gradually fell from grace. It seems Tails just happened to last longer than most of the characters who were written poorly way before Unleashed (Knuckles, Amy).
Tails is to Sonic what Krillin is to Goku: a best friend who knows him best and always has his back. Basically, Tails has been “wimpified” in order to give Sonic more shine. It’s similar to how Super had Krillin regress and lose his fighting edge/bravery until the TOP arc, when he started training with Goku again. Just an example of rehashed progression so that the “sidekick” doesn’t surpass the main hero.
The sidekick doesn't need to surpass the main hero, they can take the place of the main hero if they step down or are absent and that's when they really shine
@@SaiyanScholar True (except for its the 2010s main Sonic games and Ken Penders comics) like how Luigi is more of a heroic younger brother than an all-the-time sidekick (enter the Luigi’s Mansion trilogy)!
@@kieranstark7213 Kent Penders Tails is not even a sidekick lol. He was a chosen one of the multiverse and Sonic’s equal brother and best friend. If anything post Genesis Archi Tails is a sidekick. (My opinion)
I absolutely hate SEGA now for ruining Tails and Shadow! Why would they do this, like seriously. #TailsIsAGoddamnLoyalPlayer2 #ShadowIsntAStupidEdgeLord Anyways, I have a question for you Saiyan: Is combining Sonic with Star Wars and making a comic book fanfiction crossover series on youtube an actual good idea? I've had this idea burning in my head ever since I was 10 years old and I already asked so many other people on the internet (mostly Star Wars fans) and most of them thought it was a good idea, especially after they heard my plot ideas, but I haven't asked too many Sonic fans about it, so pls tell me what you think. I can explain some stuff, if you want, but I can't spoil too much. I already started writing the plot down in my notebook btw and I plan to do like 7 seasons at the moment. It's all gonna be on my second channel, if I ever finish writing and drawing the first season, which I'll link right here: ru-vid.com/show-UCmJiKB57KFdnqngjoFIarkg
@@KLUCZESIA I don't think you need his opinion, at least not here. Ask in the discord if you want but I'll say this: Do you have to ask if the cure for cancer is a good idea? Be confident in your investment and I'm sure you'll go a long ways. Keep your guard up.👍
Man I'm so sure that even I should write for a Sonic game and everyone, EVERYONE would be happy with how the characters are utilized in the story. Tails would be the best P2 in that game. #TailsIsAGoddamnLoyalPlayer2
In Sonic X and the Archie comics, Tails was brave, loyal and could stand on his own as a hero. Sadly, the current Sega team does not understand or respect Tails and turned him into a pathetic joke of a character. Same goes for Amy, Knuckles and even Sonic himself.
Tails had his own adventure against the Kukku Army! I would love to see a return to that, include the Super Emeralds and see Super Tails face off against the final boss because he deserves that much respect! #Tailsisaherotoo!!
I sadly agree with everything you have said. And some may say my expectations are high, but I do have hope that Sega can return his character back to the way it was before. #JusticeforTails
When I first say tails crouch down and yell SONIC HELP ME!after he beat chaos 4 in sonic adventure I was like I UNDERSTAND YOUR ONLY 8 YEARS OLD BUT YOU HAD A WHOLE SONG CALLED BELIEVE IN MYSELF!!!!
I felt as of now, Tails is best portrayed in the IDW comics, In issue 21 Tails tries to find a cure for the Metal Virus but the data gets destroyed, goes into His Cyclone and goes to town on the Zombots only to be heart broken the He had to abandon the Cyclone to not get infected, I just hope Sega can fix Tails aswell as Knuckles and make them playable along with Sonic in the 3D games (just only Sonic, Tails and Knuckles for the most part)
Luigi: *I'M NOT A SIDEKICK TO MARIO! I HAVE 3 OF MY OWN GAMES! CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT TAILS, CAN YA?* MJ & Aaron: ... Aaron: where the heck did you come from?- MJ: *GO BACK TO THE MUSHROOM KINGDOM, LUIGI!* **mega slaps luigi back to his own planet** Unleashed Army (not sonic unleashed but the characters who have been renamed unleashed): *What. The. F[beep]*
Remember Hyper Tails in the Archie Comics and Sonic 3 & Knuckles? He fought with fucking Ultra Sonic!!!! Which is the strongest form of Sonic yet Hyper Tails can power at the same level!!!! He is a true sidekick so true that he has a hyper form like Sonic who trys to keep up with him like what Gohan was like in the good old 90s being perfect for characters we love like these two!!!
Hope Tails gets some love in next Sonic movie. Hope he gets another game one day, even if fanmade. Loved his Metroidvania game on the GameGear. Tail's best moment in Sonic X was when he outsmarted Shadow, when all the others got their butts handed to them. Even if Shadow cheated with chaos control. >>
I wish SEGA would give Tails his own moment in a game, something that helps his character development, but it might be too late. Also, random thought, but just imagine how badass a Dark Super Tails would be!
Lost World & Forces Specially Showed How They Just Don't Care About *Any* Of Their Characters/Lore/Plot Consistency Anymore... *Specially* With Tails... Nowadays, He's Allowed To Be Only 2 Extremes: An Arrogant, Smug Douchebag Or A Spineless, Worthless Coward
I can't take the treatment of Tails seriously post colors. This from the kid who took on Robotnick and Chaos 4 in adventure 1, to using his new found confidence and playing to his strengths in SA2, to fighting side by side literally with Sonic and Knuckles in heroes. To cowering in a corner pathetically at the sight at Chaos 0 in Forces. The recent writers either not know or not care about the strengths of the characters and only write them based on their archetypes or flanderizing certain aspects of their personalities.
My man tails became so scared in the newer games like he may have not been the strongest character but he was one of the bravest sonic characters it’s sad and how in sonic x tails knew shadow was stronger but was willing to give his life to protect his loved one Cosmo I don’t know wth happened to tails
#Tailsisagoddamnloyalplayerto also most of your videos I see are about how you hate how sega make sonic characters and you say “let’s ask the most important question what the hell happened why is ________ a god damn disgrace”
Sonic 2 was one of the first games I'd ever played. As the younger sibling, it meant playing as the fox boy more often than not, but I was fine with that. Tails eventually became my favorite character in the series, not just because his gameplay was fun and his design was cute, but also he seemed pretty similar to myself. Watching him come into his own while still respecting his hero during the Adventure games was delightful, as I had been growing up more myself during the time those were released. It's heart wrenching to see what poor writing over the years has done to him. He's no longer the loyal partner who could step up if anything happened to Sonic. Instead, he flip-flops between cowardly fanboy and arrogant smartass, neither of which are true to who he started as or who he became. I remember how Miles Prower is supposed to be, and I won't let SEGA or Pontac and Graff try to gaslight me into believing otherwise. On another note, I rather enjoyed your video about Archie Sonic's power in base, as well as your other Sonic content. I think it would be cool to see similar videos about Tails and Knuckles in the Archieverse. Keep up the good work!
I love tails and the way sonic forces made him makes me so angry😠. Why sonic team why would you take such a good character and make him a TOTAL COWARD!
Can you do a video on Infinite What the Hell Happened. He had such a cool design and theme and powers so how did they turn him into a disgrace in the very game they introduced him in?!
7:27-7:47 i love this part of the video. I only subscribe to a channel if i really (emphasis on the really) like his content. I don't watch Dragon Ball or Pokemon, but i love your Sonic content.
My biggest pet peeve is great characters who stick around for twenty years... but their arc finished in the first few so they're kinda just there (looking at you, Toriyama). I wish more writers would give those characters a second arc to keep them relevant.
Sega retconned him... that's what.... And it honestly sucks too, cause Tails was one of my more favorite characters. Yes, even more than Sonic. The only other one I liked more than Sonic was Omega.
I disagree with you about Unleashed. Those are litterily gods which Tails has never seen before, and it was 7 against one. I don't know about you, but I don't expect Tails to take on 7 enemies at once, especially ones he's never seen before.
agreed, plus Tails was still useful in that game, and in the Xbox/PS3 versions of the game he could pilot Sonic in his plane while fighting off Eggman's robots
Will you cover Amy? And this is why poor Tails gets replaced so much, at least what it feels like to me. It would be better to put a new and unknown character in the place of fear rather than have Tail's scream for Sonic like a mansel in distress :( I'd rather he be silent and helpful then regressive :(
Sonic, HELP Me. They took his dignity away from him. They robbed him of his ability to think and choose. My mother loved Tails. She always used to call him a "cat" and that used to drive me crazy in the good way. Now look at him. My mom woulda had some choice words for you my little orange friend. I'm glad she can't see this.
They massacred my boy Tails in Adventure 1- nothing was optimised for my dude and is still in Sonic's Shadow when he wanted to be acknowledged as his own being
Not related, but SEGA announced that apparently Team Dark aren’t friends anymore which is really dumb. Besides that even though Tails was depressed in Forces. It was made poorly so they made him look like a coward and it would have been fine if the first cutscene showed Tails protecting the citizens, but since it was Forces. They messed it up. I really hope that if SEGA hires fans to write the games or Ian Flynn. Hopefully they speak up to SEGA to tell them “This is not how you write characters who have made it so far.”
Back in the day, Tails was basically us. Y'know that bit in MGS2 where Raiden fights alongside Snake? Tails did it first with ol' blue. He was living our dreams of paling around and kicking Robuttnik with our hero. And as an eternal sidekick and proud of it, Tails is still one of my number-one best boys. Not for pride, nor for prestige, but for being an ideal good guy who's easy to like.
Bro i been waiting for this, great job man! and it's still sad to see how tails is just someone who's kinda forgotten and never has been a help anymore. tails was really useful in sa1, and sa2, and even heroes. but after that things just started to fall off.
What Happened Is That The Colors Era (Specially Lost World & Forces) *Focked* Him Over In The Biggest Extremes Possible, As Much As It Sucks That He Didn't Stay Consistence After SA2 When He Finally Became A Hero On Sonic's Level, At Least He Stayed As A Nice Kid Who U Can Rely On... The 2010 Games?!... *Nuh-uh!* Either He's A Sarcastic Troll For No Reason (Colors), An Arrogant Asshole (Lost World) Or A Spineless Coward (Forces) & That's Just Sad...
This video is far too fillery. It doesn’t have nearly as much specific details about how Tails was ruined as it could. Most of the important content is in the last three minutes, and you can all the points made plus more examples in less time than was used. Repeating “We’re going to talk about what ruined Tails” over and over just stretches for time. I don’t even disagree with the video, but this needed more proper examples and explanation rather than variations of “Tails is great, Tails got ruined.”
As much as I despise Sonic Adventure 2 having Tails stuck in the Cyclone Mech, his character is what got me back into Sonic Games after Sonic and Knuckles. I loved the creativity of his levels, and being the younger cousin when we played Genesis, Tails was always the character I played as. Because I related to him as a very young man on his first video game adventure. And I loved that he grew with me in Sonic 3, Sonic and Knuckles, and the Adventure Series. But to see him regress, even with a soft continuity reboot, is just painful. It's not like Gohan, where he just decided on a career change and wanting to have a comfortable life. Because, say what you will, but I think by the Cell Games, Gohan had done more than his fair share and deserved to retire. But seeing Tails just go straight back in character without a real explanation just makes me think Sonic team just stopped caring. Good video Scholar :) #TailsIsAGoddamnLoyalPlayer2
agreed, but you can also blame Sega for listening the moronic fanboys, dumbass critics and blind haters saying that Sonic games were sucking due to the "oversaturation" of Sonic characters and ppl like Tails, Knuckles and Shadow were just useless side characters who were devaluing the games quality and needed to be ditched even tho they were further developing and adding substance to the games. No matter how much Sega listens to sensible ppl and makes gutsy but creative beneficial choices there will always be dumbass fanboys and critics ready to jump the franchises throat for ANYTHING that they do. Sega can't win this. Sonic is the punching bag of video games and doesn't deserve the hate it gets
I hate what they did to Tails he's my favorite character maybe I'm a bit biased because I love foxes but still I love him and hate what has happened to him
Can you pls make a video on what happened to Sonic? He went from a cocky adventurous teen with a sense of justice and heroism to an annoying arrogant douchebag who makes stupid jokes and has gotten nerfed in recent games. I like this video tho
I really just don't understand why the new sonic producer ( for america ) literally messes up everything about sonic. He literally stated he didn't know anything about him, only reading a Wikipedia about him. Now that's just messed up.
For me, I never had an issue with him until Forces, some of his best for me was Lost World, the adventure games and heroes I also felt his fear in unleashed was justified as he was dealing with enemies he has never seen before
Tails calling for help from Sonic in Forces is a very bad moment for him. But you know what makes it even worse? Sonic was assumed to be DEAD at that point! Why would he call for help from someone who he thought was DEAD? That's absolutely TERRIBLE writing, the worst I've seen in the series! Even if Tails was always a coward (which he wasn't; in the Adventure games he knew to stand up for himself) it'd still be stupid for him to call for Sonic's help, because again, no one knew if he was even alive at that point. I mean obviously he was, but again, no one knew that at the time.
