Nice job on the review! Just finished reviewing it myself. Very thorough review, enjoyed the overhead tool shot and the b-roll footage of the drill in action.
Hands down the best review of this tool I have found. Literally the only person to say that this uses a mechanical clutch, Milwaukee's website makes no mention of this even though IMO that's a big plus for a more delicate touch tool. All the other reviews concentrate on how big of a lag can you run in with it, literally could care less, that's impact driver work. I also appreciate the explanation for the foregrip, moving the electronics out of the head for a flatter footprint. Also explains why the controversial non traditional direction selector, it would basically have to be it in the front end in the way getting bumped. All the other reviews are "it looks cooler and has a place for the light". You never disappoint, and I'm always glad if I find you've reviewed a tool I'm interested in. Keep up the good work!
@@nuclearexplosion5841 there’s jobs that only the impact could do but I would use the installation for 95% of all jobs I’m doing. The impact could do any job but could damage what you’re drilling into
Just picked this up on Amazon for $175. I've put together a patio heater, patio table and a few bar stools. So far so good. Only tried it with a 2ah battery. Not used to the controls and the light on it sucks 😕 But I do love the little guy!.
I used this a few times at a local community woodshop and it blew my mind, but that offset adapter drove me insane drilling pilot holes. I got the Bosch on sale and I'm super glad I did. I prefer their attachment system for changing position with the right angle and offset and their offset adapter locks. Though Milwaukee has a better locking bit holder. It's wild that the Bosch is the cheapest, I think it's the best.
I agree, the Bosch 12V Flexiclick is my favorite (I refuse to call it the rebranded "Chameleon"). I bought the brushless version and figured I'd sell my brushed version, but just ended up keeping one for the garage and one for my basement workshop!
I noticed the same thing with mine. The right angle and eccentric/offset some times have trouble locking in. I think over time they will get broken in and be easier to attach.
Great review always enjoy your videos.... very informative as always.... you provide a lot more specification details that a lot of people don't.... was thinking of getting this before I saw your review now it's a must...lol
Would you recommend this over the Festool CXS? I'm wondering if I can use this as my only drill. With the CXS that's impossible, but this has double the torque. (given that both are the same price here in Europe)
I think I personally like the Bosch more, but it's not a no-contest win for either of them. The Milwaukee has better ergonomics, but the Bosch attachment design is much smoother when you want to hit a certain angle with the offset or right angle adapters. The 1/4" bit holder design on the Milwaukee is much better for one handed operation with just inserting the bit, and then pulling the collar to release. The Bosch requires pushing the collar for both bit insertion and release. However, the Bosch has a locking collar for bit retention on the offset attachment, where the Milwaukee just has a magnet. Bosch wins for direction lever design. Milwaukee wins on torque. I like the Bosch enough more though that I recently bought the brushless version when it became available in the US.
Im sold, this is going to help me fix a few things that would be ridiculously expensive to repair without it, hence ive been putting them off for a few years 😅
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Check out the Rigid multi tool, I've been using it for 3 years and don't know how I ever did things before. I would buy the whole kit again in a second. Straight handle design allows me to get into smaller spaces.
I don't even need a review to know how awesome this is... it's nothing better or worse than anything else on the market, but since I already own Milwaukee, might as well stick to the brand
I was in-between this kit and the Bosch 12v brushless gsr12v-300fcb22, which I got for $70 (not in store). I feel the Bosch is a better kit overall, because of the improvements they made from the brushed model.
Yeah, I bought the Bosch brushless Flexiclick when it dropped to ~$120 on Amazon. That was after this review too, so now I have both brushed and brushless Bosch models and this M12. The brushless Bosch is my favorite.
@@DoresoomReviews glad you agree! It would be great if you can do a comparison between the two kits. I have found videos that compare the two, but it's in German. 😂
Doresoom Tool Reviews No way, congrats! That’s too funny, I also just moved states and for the first time have a full basement that I set up as my shop. This is the first winter I’ve been able to park in the garage in some time. It’s a revelation!
Gen 2 of this will probably rock. Seems like definitely needs tinkering. Would guess 2021, 2022 at the latest. They will want to sell a bunch of these first.
I would guess you'll be waiting at least 4 years for a Gen 2 version of this. That's the time frame between the M12 FUEL Gen 1 and Gen 2 impacts and drills, as well as the M18 Brad Nailer Gen 1 to Gen 2.
I think I personally like the Bosch more, but it's not a no-contest win for either of them. The Milwaukee has better ergonomics, but the Bosch attachment design is much smoother when you want to hit a certain angle with the offset or right angle adapters. The 1/4" bit holder design on the Milwaukee is much better for one handed operation with just inserting the bit, and then pulling the collar to release. The Bosch requires pushing the collar for both bit insertion and release. Bosch wins for direction lever design. Milwaukee wins on torque. I like the Bosch enough more though that I recently bought the brushless version when it became available in the US.
Yeah, this tool seems to be styled after the Festool CXS. The cheapest price I could find for that kit was $300, but it doesn't come with the offset driver adapter.
It's pretty basic, just a bunch of annoying velcro straps. At least it has spots to securely fasten all the attachments, unlike the Bosch Flexiclick case which just let them roll around. I'll probably end up making a custom foam case like I made for my Flexiclick: instagram.com/p/BktMqq-AYij/
Nice review again. Glad to see you back. My only issue would be the weight comparison. You weighed the new driver without the chuck attachment vs the hammer drill which, of course, has its own chuck. I would say their weight would be near the same with the chuck attached. With that said, I don't see anything this unit can't do that my M12 Surge and hammer drill can't do better. Each is more powerful and easier to use without fumbling with attachments on and off. I'll keep what I have.
Good point about including the weight of the drill chuck in the comparison. This driver with the chuck installed is about 10% lighter than the M12 Gen 2 - a respectable weight reduction, but nothing spectacular. Without the chuck installed though, it's about 25% lighter which will really be felt by the user. So it depends on how you're using it. If you're just driving screws with it, you can get by with the magnetic bit holder and save the weight, which you still can't do with the Gen 2 drill.
The installation driver is not a replacement tool to the m12 surge or the m12 gen 2 hammer drill driver. It is more of a tool to use in conjunction with them. You may not use the installation driver every day like the other 2 but when you do need it, it is worth its weight in gold.
@@jps101574 for me personally I planned to use it on furniture, shop projects, cabinets, etc. where a traditional drill or impact will not fit. I have had a handful of situations where a tool like this would be nice, faster, and maybe more cost effective but not required.
I don't think I need this tool. I'm using Gen 2 M12 Fuel Drill/ Hammer drill for most electrical tasks. Driving bolts, anchor screws, and drilling thru wood and for concrete.
That's a good point, but it's an extra step you still have to take that isn't necessary if you've got a locking bit holder. With the way this forward/reverse switch is designed, it's just about as fast to just yank the bit out of the workpiece by hand afterwards.
I don't know about Australia, but in Europe Milwaukee released the M12 FPDX prior to releasing this one in the US. I have no idea why they made two different versions that aren't available everywhere though. www.milwaukeetool.eu/en-eu/m12-fuel-sub-compact-percussion-drill-with-removable-chuck/m12-fpdx/
...aaaand I should have Googled a bit more. Looks like it was discontinued in Australia: www.milwaukeetool.com.au/discontinued-products/M12FPDXKIT-202X.html
If you had a dozen drills and someone gave you another one so you could review it, would it mean as much as if someone gave you a few thousand dollars? Absolutely not the same as sponsored.
Not worth buying: - Nose-heavy. Even with a 6Ah battery it will tip forward and fall nose-down - Fucken-weak! 300in*lbs torque is ridiculously weak for the size and weight this tool is. Milwaukee has come up with an M12 surge impact driver with 1400in*lbs of torque and the thing is just as tiny as this one. - This set is $230!!! (Just for reference: the M18 2800's impact and drill set with two 5Ah batteries is around $300 right now!!!) - Has no side bit clip. True, it has a front magnet, but it is a weak magnet that can only hold the smallest bits and will drop the longer ones, or the bit extensions). - No impact function. - The electronic direction switch is in a terrible location. The mechanical detent-type of the direction switch is the best as you can flip the direction without even shifting your grip. However the switch that this thing has... you either have to shift your grip, or use another hand to do it - either way you are fucked if you're in a tight spot with only one hand available to reach (which is the niche this thing was designed for in the first place)!
It's very well balanced with just the 1/4" locking bit holder, but it's true if you add on the heavier attachments it can be a little nose heavy. However, you're just wrong about the torque. 300 in-lbs is very good for a 12V class drill. You're comparing it to an impact driver, which is a completely different type of tool. Also, the M12 Surge has 450 in-lbs of torque.
@@DoresoomReviews, yes, I was wrong about the torque value. However, after just a day of using this 2505-22 tool I am very disappointed in its lack of power. It stalls soooo easily! So, instead of making a universal tool, Milwaukee has in reality created a super-specialty-oriented expensive toy for only a few limited applications. There is a $50 impact drill/driver 90 degree Milwaukee attachment 49-22-8510 that does all those tasks fantastically and I don't even need to deal with any of those flaws I mentioned above by using this 49-22-8510 attachment on a m18 1200 in*lbs 2804 hammer drill of on the 2000 in*lbs 2853 impact driver. www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Accessories/Driving-and-Fastening/Driver-Bits---General/49-22-8510
Just curious, what type of work are you using it on? It's not meant to replace an 18V hammer drill or impact driver. It's worked great for installing cabinet pull outs and shelving in narrow cabinets for me. I actually couldn't reach into the back of one of the 8" wide cabinets with both arms, which would keep me from being able to use the right angle adapter you mention that requires two hands. So it's got its applications that it shines in, but maybe your type of work is too demanding for it.
@@canogaparque818 I don't like having 3 tools on the job site for work that can be done by just one. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
