MINI JCW VS MINI Cooper S 

Same here

Yes indeed! Price/performance, the Mini Cooper S seems the best option to us.

Engine power is not the only upgrade you get. The JCW is a, not so, different car than a S. The handling of a JCW is far better balanced and sportier. The weight of the car is reduced due to different materials. Brakes are much better. and the exhaust is slightly more noisier.

The exhaust sound of the Mini Cooper JCW is remarkably louder than that of the Mini Cooper S!

In Sportmode that is, imho.

Aditra P 😂😂😂

Same fam. Lmao!

Never would buy this its slower than a bike

@@MsMisHaK most cars are slower than a bike friend

@@DustyDesertRat Even the Chiron?

Haha everyone who is a car enthusiast knows that feeling I think! The Mini Cooper JCW indeed sounds terrific...

How has it been reliability wise? Any major issues?

Yes. And when you're a big kid like me, then it hits the right buttons

It's been fine. Runs really smooth and , so far, had no issues. It also had it's first MOT in June, and it sailed through so I'm really happy with it. And I do push it on quiet country roads and nothings fallen off yet ;)

@@nemmie Good to hear!

While making the video we were laughing all the time! It's all about the experience. More Mini content is coming! Stay tuned! ✌️

Haha that has saved you a lot of money!

I have a 2012 s, what do you recommend for more hp gains? Thank you

john mac smaller supercharger pully, free flow exhaust then remap.

@@Robcatist smaller supercharger, what brand? I didnt think they offered smaller pullies for a 2012 s

@@Robcatist also, do you have any idea on mini electrical? The exterior mini warning light came on? I checked all lights and that all seemed fine. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

You've got a point there! Thanks for your feedback, we will keep these things in mind for our next videos 😊

Thats a nice little investment

@@M17_Max I wouldn't call it investment lol

@@chrisdrumz7 you wouldn't call a limited run, individual spec, gp an investment?

@@M17_Max no since they depreciate in value quickly

Indeed! Maybe a good idea to implement this in a next video 😊

And if you add a brake test to it too you'd be competing with Carwow! Bring out more content, I enjoyed watching, thanks.

We also thought that the difference was going to be bigger given the horsepower difference...

@@CSRTV007 kind of disappointing considering the prices

We see how much quicker 😀

@@derekmclv yeah they are basically the same. The only differences are the bigger brembo breaks, little more power and different bumpers. All the parts fit the Cooper S.

@@AnCapKadse also more cooling on the JCW.

It also has a higher flow turbo manifold with slightly bigger injectors meaning you can tune it up more than you can tune up a normal S

What the actual fuck are you talking about. No ones talking a about a dodge demon. It’s just a fucking video pull your head out of your ass

Joseph Williamson he used a very nice analogy, of course that’s way too complicated for your brain so let me explain, Dodge demon is a car made to be a drag racer and that’s why he used this analogy because all the comments are all about how the price difference doesn’t make up to the difference in drag speed. He’s trying to say the price difference isn’t just about the speed

Diego Gregoir Thank you

Diego Gregoir Cooper isn’t a drag car .... the real test will be on the track Suspensions already hella stif

Thanks for the positive feedback. The Mini Cooper S is definitely a good option if you want something more sporty. A disadvantage is that it consumes quite a lot of petrol compared to other Mini Cooper models.

CSR TV no problem & yea that makes sense i was thinking cooper s d ? But my friend said its alot slower ill have a look at specs then decide in the future....cool vids keep uploading 👍🏼

The Mini Cooper SD has almost 170 hp but the experience is completely different with a diesel engine. We do our best to keep uploading from time to time 😉👍🏼

Yeah with a tune

lol if you knew racing......it dusted the S. It was a full car ahead at barely any distance

Jordy Vandenbussche Thanks mate! 🤙🏼

Yes! both cars have standard tires and with the road surface also being not ideal, the JCW struggled more with grip than the Cooper S.

@@CSRTV007 still fair tho and that’s what matters when racing to see the actual difference good vid guys keep em stock

If you get the cooper s sport you get the same suspension as the JCW and styling . Just the HP is missing 😂

OCF Productions Thanks man! 😊

Good idea! We will try to arrange that, but we can't promise anything 😉

Salut csr tv si tu veux j'ai un clubman r55 cooper s je suis de mouscron

Cool, pouvez-vous envoyer un mail à enquiries.csrtv@gmail.com?

You can tell by the bumper

Robert Christie A fuel consumption of 40 mpg or converted 7 litres per 100 kilometres is low for a Mini Cooper S. We own a F56 Mini Cooper S and the average fuel consumption is around 8.5 litres per 100 kilometres or 33 mpg...

@@CSRTV007 yes it can be done: you really need to focus on efficient driving to keep it at the 39-40 mpg mark, and of course traffic and road conditions help. If driving without the focus on keeping fuel consumption down, and using the car's acceleration & performance, then 33-35 mpg is about right. I've not yet taken it on a truly long motorway trip; my 2015 Cooper (the non S version) that I had before this S did 65 mpg on a 100 mile+ trip, I'm not sure how high I can get the MPG on this one.

Even though this conversation was 2 years ago, just for info I’ve had 63mpg on a long run in my 2015 Cooper s (100miles plus). Though day to day mixing between 30 to 45 mpg dependant on being a hooligan or a gentleman.

@@Outlaw-Pete now that I’ve had it a longer and gotten used to the car (which I got in Dec 2018, so just before I posted the comment) I have seen an improvement in efficiency. And of course I’ve seen a marked improvement thanks to lockdown and the lower amounts of traffic, getting a reliable 38-40 mpg without trying too hard. Even when being a bit more hooligan with it I don’t really see it drop below 37 mpg although I think I tend to offset my more exuberant driving with more relaxed trips too. I’ve found that turning the DSC off whilst driving helps with economy as well as just being giving a better driving experience, plus I spend about half my regular journey on the motorway which helps. Overall I think it’s just the perfect car; efficient and economical yet fast enough and fun too. I have been thinking though that when I come to change it in a couple of years time I’m going to get a JCW just because I reckon that’ll be my last petrol car before I end up with an electric one, I might as well go the whole hog for the last hurrah for the internal combustion engine!

We are happy to have been able to help you with your choice 😊👍🏼

You can buy the jcw programming from bmw.

Wayne C yeah I think that’s what I’ll do

Can you buy this upgrade at the Mini dealership?

CSR TV yeah and I think the JCW tuning kit is like $2200 with installation.

Stefan Leggott Good idea! We will try to arrange that, but we can't promise anything 😉

I own both a gp1 and gp2 (both stock) and also have a gp3 coming in April-June. I can tell you as a current gp1 and gp2 owner that the gp2 out preforms my GP1 significantly (as it should). That being said, there are multiple things i like about the GP1 Better! Including interior all around and also the exterior body of the gp1. I’m excited to own all 3 at once!

Many of you are asking about this! We will try to arrange that, but we can't promise anything 😉

And very different in quality and technology!

@@ramonsousa8923 How so?

It does fit

The Mini Cooper JCW did indeed suffer from wheel spin several times.

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Tuurlijk, Bedankt voor het voorstel! Kan je een email sturen naar enquiries.csrtv@gmail.com of een DM op Instagram @csr.tv en dan nemen wij verder contact op met jou 😀

@@CSRTV007 ik heb u een bericht op insta verzonden (:

Thanks!

It is top end everything else is minimal. The jcw will do 10 + mph more.

SuperBoris1976 yes, I have seen dyno numbers and the extra hp of the JCW are above 5000rpm, also the S seems to be underrated at 189hp, I have seen numbers from 200 to 215 and The JCW seems to be at what it’s claimed(230)so that makes things even closer. I own a 2016 JCW and is great, I have never raced against an S so I can’t tell what happens with 6spd auto vs 6spd auto. What I can say is the brembo brakes are the big disappointment of this car, the JCW breaks worse than a GTI a A3 and many other cars. I usually drive the JCW and a A3 sedan and the A3 breaks better, I hace I en confirmed it in many reviews of the JCW.

As you can see in the video, the difference is minimal during the acceleration but at high speeds the performance gap is clearly noticeable.

All F56 JCW's are 8 speed Aisin conventional auto. Only F56 1.5T and S have a Getrag DCT.

@@vmoca NO, I own a 2016 JCW and is 6 speed auto, I'm not sure if the DCT happened at some point, I think it went from the 6 speed auto to the 8 speed. I just read or probably misread about the DCT, I'm not sure.

Cooper S with JCW design trim is like buying a Mercedes C 200 and put AMG badges on it...

@@PorscheCayenneS why not?

@@astrovenus8345 Obviously because they are a prosche 911 driver.

We also thought that the difference was going to be bigger given the horsepower difference...

You are right! Thanks for your feedback! We will keep these things in mind for our next videos 😊

And the antiroll bars are the same?

Many of you on this channel are asking for a race against the R53. We'll have to get it done I think 😂

😂😂

When accelerating from 0-100 the difference is rather small but at higher speeds the difference is more obvious.

S's do not sound like that stock. I would bet the S in this vid has been customized/tuned.

@@astrovenus8345 they do actually just push that bitch sounds nasty. Mines is a 2020 flutter sounds nice when I push the gas but when I rev that bitch to the max sounds nasty

@@fuhjrvr7474 😂👍🏼

The Mini Cooper S 2017 is indeed a good choice but I don't know if you can/will keep this car for 10 years.

i dont think so. for 10 yrs, Mini cooper? Japanese cars may be

My wife finally parted with her 2006 Cooper S. 140,000 miles. Only sold because her bad left knee can’t handle the clutch ( lots of stop and go commuting). Awaiting delivery of her new 2020 Cooper S. So yeah it can last for 10 years. BTW she got over 100,000 miles on original clutch.

Good idea! We will try to arrange that, this could be possible 😊

CSR TV muchos gracias, i have the SD but not seen anything on RU-vid comparing the two

Yes please

@@CSRTV007 what about a gp version, or are those pretty rare? or do i just sound stupid and one of these is pretty much a gp. (im not a huge car guy i just like mini's)

Haha no, there exists indeed a Mini Cooper GP. This is a special version of the Mini Cooper JCW designed for track use but you can also drive it on public roads.

why? r50 is an amazing car

SZCZUR WODNY Official Mini documents say that the average fuel consumption of the Mini Cooper S is around 6 liters. We drive this car as a daily and from our experience the car uses around 8,5 litres per 100 km. So the mileage is pretty bad 😕

Depends how you drive it. Not that bad...! Wasn't bought for watching fuel/oil consumption anyway lol

Stefan Leggott Haha true story! Epic car to drive! Maximum go kart feeling 😉

I can reach 6l if i drive really smooth to work. But with a bit fun im fast over 6.5

The fuel consumption on the highway is indeed quite good of the Mini Cooper S.

Haha. Totally

SET IN STONE FIFE LTD stonemasons and builders The JCW is indeed verrrry quick when we compare it with other hothatches!

So is the S model. It's a full BMW as well.

Kai Yznaga-Smart Which car do you currently own?

CSR TV i still own a Mini Cooper but it’s a newer four door model. Just the basic Cooper. But I used to have a 2007 two door supercharged JW. It was yellow and beautiful. I’m still grieving 😂

Yes

You're right!

JCW has a larger turbo, and the race is a little unfair considering the Cooper S is a non facelift and the JCW is the newer more emission conscious ECU.

JCW has a larger turbo, and the race is a little unfair considering the Cooper S is a non facelift and the JCW is the newer more emission conscious ECU.

You've got a point there! Thanks for your feedback, we will keep these things in mind for our next videos 😊

ECU map is different, turbo is bigger, different pistons thus different compression ratio (10 vs 11:1) but essentially the same

Emilio Bravo What do you mean?

CSR TV quarter mile numbers, i guess

cookiemonstahmetal Thanks for helping me out 😉 1/4 Mile Mini Cooper S: 14,7 seconds and Mini Cooper JCW: 14,2 seconds.

CSR TV i mean if the race was 1/4 mile. Because it looks 200 mts. I have run against mini cooper s in 1/4 mile and the jcw its a lot faster than the video

CSR TV i mean if the race was 1/4 mile. Because it looks 200 mts. I have run against mini cooper s in 1/4 mile and the jcw its a lot faster than the video

Many of you on this channel are asking for a race against the R53. It is hard to find someone with this type of car who wants to join for a video... But we keep looking!

I have one ! yellow white top 2003 supercharged selling it for $3500 clean title even has a SPARE runflat Astoria, Oregon

Sounds like a good deal!

Cool story bro

Ok 🗿

Yes, both Mini's have automatic gearboxes.

diddydavid67 because if it was manual the win could come down to user error/expertise not just the car itself

No manual offered in the USA this year. Dealer said may have been due to Brexit issue. Dont know for sure.