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Mini-Z AWD Drift Setup MA-020s Build Version 1 

BMR 3
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Drift Tires 0:40
Front One-way Differential 1:40
Solid Rear Axel 3:03
Aluminum Motor Heat Sink & Clip 4:13
Swing Arms 6:40
Future Upgrades 7:46

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@soma_rc
@soma_rc 3 года назад
Some part numbers: Solid rear axle: MDW024 One-way diff: MDW017 Motor clip: tc10905b Drift tires: MDT001 (narrow) / MDT002 (wide)
@danrchobbies8994
@danrchobbies8994 4 года назад
Great nice having a up to date channel for these Mini Z's. Just starting this avenue of Mini cars.
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Thank you & yes I agree. There wasn’t much when I started the channel, but it’s good to see mini-z community growing & more channels popping up.
@DotaNerd808
@DotaNerd808 5 лет назад
Love what you're doing I just bought mines. You should do a installation video of motor, diff, aluminum parts etc. I've been trying to find vids like that. Thank you for your vids
@BMR3
@BMR3 5 лет назад
Lord Lavi that’s the plan man! So I have a few videos up regarding installs for minor parts, & I will put a link to my video regarding the front one way differential. In that video I pretty much tear down the complete front end & I try to show as much as possible on camera. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U5vF882fyY0.html Regarding aluminum parts, I have a video about the rear end knuckles + toe bar, a videos on swing arms, and I just released a video today about the front tie bar. I have purchased all the EA Racing aluminum parts for the front end, so stay tuned and I will cover all of those. I have a quick video up regarding the Eagle Racing parts of you want a preview of what I have. Here is the link to that video: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dEHlXOapIlo.html If you really want to see how to uninstall & reinstall the motor I could make a video, but it’s a super straight forward process. Let me know if you want to see it and I’ll toss it on my schedule.
@BMR3
@BMR3 5 лет назад
Lord Lavi HA! I read your comment so quickly I didn’t fully take what you said in, thanks man!! This is exactly why I created the channel, I was researching my build and it’s tough to find easily accessible information regarding the MA-020 specifically. Next week I’m releasing a video regarding parts comparability for the MA-020, hopefully my videos help! Please feel free to ask questions in the comments.
@mzondi1970
@mzondi1970 Год назад
I always look back at your videos for reference on different things
@HaCo81
@HaCo81 4 года назад
Nice video! Just ordered a one-way, I still have a one-way laying around.
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Thank you! Yeah I like the front one way, but I think a solid rear axle is the most import mod to make your car consistent
@HaCo81
@HaCo81 4 года назад
@@BMR3 Just see I made a typo: I had a solid axle laying around, the one-way is underway. Just tested the solid axle, lot's of fun!
@Weaselpro
@Weaselpro 2 года назад
To cool down the motor, i found setting in ICS software: motor frequency. I set to higher frequency and motor become way cooler.
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
Awesome tip! Never played with that setting myself.
@Weaselpro
@Weaselpro 2 года назад
@@BMR3 You really should. Another good setting to play with for drifting is enertia. More you set - more nicely softly car turn it back side when brake to spin with oneway diff. Enertia to "off" makes it very sharpy.
@OutlanderArmory
@OutlanderArmory 2 года назад
Looks like a blast!
@BlackkDiiamonds
@BlackkDiiamonds 2 года назад
just subbed brother, just ordered the hellcat ma-020 bouta be watchin all your videos lol its def overwhelming at first thank god for you tho lol
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
Sorry for the delayed response but that you for the support brother! Yeah mini-z is definitely overwhelming when starting off & kyosho doesn't make it any easier LOL Thankfully we have an awesome Facebook community that's happy to help newbies. They helped me to get started & I apricated it so much started this RU-vid channel to give back what they gave me. Good luck with your build brother & please let me know if you have any questions.
@BlackkDiiamonds
@BlackkDiiamonds 2 года назад
@@BMR3 no worries on the reply brother just thankful for ur content! But yessss bro ive been binge watchin all these vids my hellcat came in yesterday and i already got the rigid axle and front one way im about to install tonight after i do some stock test runs
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
@Kareem Johnson nice man! yeah that's the way to go in my opinion, but keep in mind once you install a one way you cant do some of the fancy tricks like reverse drifting or 360 reverse entries. Also, I would recommend looking to a spring kit (for the front & rear) as well as some DS Racing tires. In my experience springs have the biggest impact on the "feel" of the car & its hyper critical to match your drift tires to the surface your drifting on, it will make a night & day difference. Let me know if you run into any issues or have random questions, I'm always happy to help trouble shoot! Good luck bro!
@BlackkDiiamonds
@BlackkDiiamonds 2 года назад
@@BMR3 hell yeah brother well ill be mostly on like garage concrete like with the gray epoxy kinda concrete. Which LF tire compound do you think i should rock, also trying to find some new rims but trying to find them also
@Jason-en9lv
@Jason-en9lv Год назад
I have a question, what websites did you order your mod parts?
@iammaximus614
@iammaximus614 4 года назад
Great info 👌🏽😎 Subscribed
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Thank you Maximus! Have a great day Sir
@christophergarrido2802
@christophergarrido2802 4 года назад
I'm looking to get into this, what are the "Auto Scale" stuff? Is it like a model care you can use the wheels and body from?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Autoscales are the bodies, they cost about $50 brand new & come in a little clear plastic display box. They also come with the appropriate size rims so you can use them on a chassis. The tires are just for display though, you will need to replace them if you want to use the rims.
@coreymonday1375
@coreymonday1375 Год назад
Does anyone remember x-mods they were just like this just they sold them in rtr kits at RadioShack they had stage 1,2,an 3 for motor, shocks,heat sinks a bearing kit for your wheels head an tail lights I had a red supra an my dad had a yellow skyline...I'm about get back into the hobby so I'm going mini z
@BMR3
@BMR3 Год назад
Ah the good ol RadioShack days… yeah I remember seeing the xmods but I dident even know what mini-z was back then so I couldn’t appreciate them. It’s a shame I missed out on them when they where in their hay day.
@noelviera5513
@noelviera5513 Год назад
Great channel great content, by any chance do you have something written down about this topic? If you do can you share a link to that page? Thank you
@BMR3
@BMR3 Год назад
I used to have a huge written guide posted to the RCM8 forums but sadly the boards were taken down. These videos are all that’s left from those efforts
@JboneApocolypz
@JboneApocolypz Год назад
awesome video! So helpful
@TheBurriagas
@TheBurriagas 2 года назад
Hey, thanks for this. I've recently adquired an AWD Toyota and I am wondering if you can link the items you mentioned here and others like the tyres where to buy them. I cannot find them. I live in Europe but any reference is good. Thanks!
@GarageMiniRCUK
@GarageMiniRCUK 4 года назад
Nice vid great info. I've never used a front one way diff.
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Garage Mini RC Racing UK personally I love the front one way, I consider the solid rear axle & front one way to be the essential drift upgrade. The rear axle makes the car much more predictable while holding the drift, & the one way allows for an e-brake effect so you can really whip the car tight. But I’m not sure how you would like the one way since you race more then drift, but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts.
@GarageMiniRCUK
@GarageMiniRCUK 4 года назад
@@BMR3 I've got a front one way somewhere, I might try that set up, one of our racers swears by locked rear diff.
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Garage Mini RC Racing UK I swear by the locked rear differential! It makes the car so much more predictable since the power to both tiers remains constant. In my experience it makes the car much less squirrely & less likely to loop. But my experience is on smooth surfaces while trying to drift, so take it with a grain of salt.
@GarageMiniRCUK
@GarageMiniRCUK 4 года назад
So I've set it up in my self modded miniz awd. Front one way rear fixed. Love the way car handled. I think for the type of racing we do(drift /race hybrid) this will give predictable cornering /drifting and then straight-line traction. Can't wait to rest on track. Thanks.
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Garage Mini RC UK that would be your 020 right? Let me know what you think of the rear diff. change once you have had time to test it on the track, I’m interested to hear your thoughts. Personally I love it, I recorded a video this weekend spotlighting the front one way & soils rear axle, I’ll have it public this Friday.
@commanderfig
@commanderfig 3 года назад
Was wondering where i can get the chassis, i just bought a sil80 Autoscale Shell and wanted to put a complete chassis in it but cant find nothing online any help would be appreciated!
@BMR3
@BMR3 3 года назад
Hey man, RCM8 has ma-020 chassis in stock & I'll link below. Let me know if you have any questions! www.rcm8.net/collections/cars/products/kyosho-mini-z-awd-rtr-toyota-sprinter-trueno-ae86-initial-d-white?sca_ref=312304.oK4xOMQWY0&sca_source=RU-vid
@littlesadface
@littlesadface Год назад
Hi BMR thank you for making a video I am new to rc and I already purchase a m020 and waiting for it to arrived I just have one question where do you buy alloy rims and aluminum tire lock nuts? I couldn’t find any website that sells mini z rims and lock nuts and ebay is too expensive thank you again and have a great day
@lucada32
@lucada32 4 года назад
Another Question; Is a Solid Rear Axle the same as a rear locked differential? And do you know what mosfet is? thanks and much love for the videos!
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Hello, Yes when you “lock” the differential, it turns an open differential into a solid rear axle. A locked differential generally refers to an open differential that was modified so it will act like a solid rear axle.
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Sorry, I missed the part about Mostfets, yes I know what they are & the general principals behind them. What’s up?
@olli460
@olli460 2 года назад
Just got a drift car but when i'm using it on my RCP track it just doesn't kick out at all. It grips just aswell as my RWD mini-Z. Do you know what i can do to make it more slippery ?
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
Change your tire compound, DS racing has some great tires & they just released their new S series that’s even less grippy. LF3 is roughly equivalent to stock Kyosho tires so you will want LF4 or LF5, the higher you go the less grip. The new s series all have less grip then the LF5
@marsbase3729
@marsbase3729 2 года назад
Awesome info. I was just wondering, if you use something like Elmer's glue, to lock the rear diff, you could soak it in warm water to remove the glue if you need it for a different set up, where as with super glue, it's pretty much a solid axle from then on. I might be wrong, but I think it would be strong enough when dry, without being permanent. Of course driving through puddles might start unlocking it, lol
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
Hey bro, thank you for the support & kind words! To answer your question, yes you can use anything you like you like to lock the differential. As you said, there is no going back with superglue or epoxys, but if you want a less permanent or removable option you can always pack the gears with cotton from que tips or rip up some cotton balls. The whole goal is to make it so the gears can’t spin & cotton works perfectly for a removable option.
@marsbase3729
@marsbase3729 2 года назад
@@BMR3 cool! New to this scale and drifting, between you and Beaver Hobby, I've been learning a lot. Thanks for putting this info out 👍😎👍
@ParcoUpchurch
@ParcoUpchurch 4 года назад
@BMR 3 for the rear toe rod bar. Was your at a 0 degree, 0.5, etc. I believe you said zero been looking for one?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Hey man, nobody produces a zero degree toe bar, the closest you can get is 0.5 degrees & that’s what I have. It works fine, I believe I elaborate on this in future build update videos. Here is a link to a video where I build my “ultimate” king pin style rear end (stock AWD rear end) if you want to take a look: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tn86lnF-lzI.html I have upgraded my 020 rear end to DWS, it’s noticeable smoother then the kingpin style. But that said, my ma-030Evo build is still using a king pin style rear end. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any further questions!
@BlitzWorks
@BlitzWorks 5 лет назад
I have also found the left vs right max turn angle to be asymmetric due to impacting the frame. was able to obtain a tiny bit more steering angle and make it more symmetric by taking a file to the frame where the tie rod enters the chassis. ultimately i believe its an issue with the kyosho setting design
@BMR3
@BMR3 5 лет назад
Wow that’s a great tip, thanks man! Much appreciated! When I crack open the front end to install my tie rod I’ll be sure to give special attention to this area.
@ParcoUpchurch
@ParcoUpchurch 4 года назад
@BMR 3 for the rear toe rod bar. Was yours at a 0 degree, 0.5, etc. I believe you said zero been looking for one?
@jayce704
@jayce704 Год назад
Grreat video! Thank you! Where I can find parts for the CS convertion?
@TheKentam1991
@TheKentam1991 2 года назад
Hey man thanks for the video. Can I check with you what motors would you suggest to use for a Miniz AWD?
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
Stock motors work just fine. If you want a bit more top end you can look into the xspeed 50t motors, be careful to not go above the 50t rating as you will fry the stock board (unless you did a FETT mod)
@TheKentam1991
@TheKentam1991 2 года назад
Thanks man, just get back into the hobby after almost 20years. The hobby changed a lot! Keep up the videos!
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
@@TheKentam1991 thank you for the support & it’s good to have you back in the hobby! Have a great day brother!
@TheKentam1991
@TheKentam1991 2 года назад
@@BMR3 by the way, I was watching your other email about the DWS. Can I know the list of parts you use for your non-M power build?
@HaCo81
@HaCo81 4 года назад
Another idea I saw a few months back. By changing the rear diff gear ratio having a slightly faster rear axle would enable longer slides. This mod requires space in the rear axle diff housing, since you would mount a bigger rear diff pinion gear. I wonder if you can also replace the rear differential gear, especially on the solid axle where the gear is a seperate part, this gear should have less teeth. Any experience with this? (I'm new into drifting... just reading and learning; or trying at least :-) ).
@HaCo81
@HaCo81 4 года назад
This is what I mean: msracingfuji.web.fc2.com/minizketukakigia.html
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
What your describing is called a countersteer drift set up & these are very popular. Currently there are no “off the shelf” options, since M’s racing products are always sold out. If your open to the idea of DIY modification, you can build a set up just like you described. Search for “countersteer RC drift” & start watching. I plan to build a CS car in the future, but I’m not ready right now.
@HaCo81
@HaCo81 4 года назад
@@BMR3 I had an idea, have a look here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F8mg3eN7BD4.html
@crazyrcdude
@crazyrcdude 4 года назад
Nice video bro
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Thanks man!
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Crazy R.C dude you have been making some crazy videos, good stuff
@jameswalton9299
@jameswalton9299 2 года назад
Good afternoon I was wondering if an AWD drift car be used for track racing
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
Yup just slap some rubber tires on there & your good to go.
@jameswalton9299
@jameswalton9299 2 года назад
@@BMR3 oh ok cool thanks for the info 👍🏾
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
Happy to help brother!
@808DC2R
@808DC2R 2 года назад
Where did U buy the Counter steering gearing?
@BMR3
@BMR3 2 года назад
They are long discontinued sadly. MS Racing was the company that produced them but they are out of business now. The only way of getting a counter steer set up now is to DIY. There are a couple videos on YT covering the mod.
@saint9378
@saint9378 4 года назад
I’ve been looking to get started in mini z rc for a while but not sure what is a good type car to start with? Any suggestions? I’m very inexperienced and trying not to dump too much money into rc yet lol
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Hello, I highly recommend going with a MA-020 RTR kit. This specific one come with the AE86 body which may be a little ugly, but its widely regarded as one of the most balanced (in terms of weight) shells you can get, & that makes it a good body to learn on. www.rcm8.net/collections/cars/products/kyosho-mini-z-awd-rtr-toyota-sprinter-trueno-ae86-initial-d-white?sca_ref=312304.oK4xOMQWY0 The best part about the MA-020 is that it can be used for drifting around the house, or racing with friends. Its a super versatile platform & has lots of room to upgrade, tune & DIY.
@saint9378
@saint9378 4 года назад
BMR 3 thanks! I’ll try it out
@saint9378
@saint9378 4 года назад
BMR 3 it’s a bit more expensive then what I was looking for but I’m guessing it’s higher quality so I’ll get it thanks man!
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
@@saint9378 awesome man! Welcome to the community :) yes these are expensive but they are very high quality, especially the bodies. You are getting what you pay for my friend, these chassis are super simple & easy to work on. You are going to love it! Let me know if you have any questions or run into any issues
@johnpauldeguzman2922
@johnpauldeguzman2922 2 года назад
Do you have a link for the aluminum heat sink motor mount?
@matthvids
@matthvids 4 года назад
I have a question my friend: Without modification, will a MA 020 be "drivable" like a rally car? That's what I'm interested in, having some rally game in my living room ! Thanks.
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Hey Matt, yeah it’s certainly rally ready straight out of the box. Stock differentials are perfect for rally, you may just want to look into grip tires but that depends on your flooring/surface.
@matthvids
@matthvids 4 года назад
@@BMR3 Thanks a lot! A MA020 will complete the fun I have with my MR03! I run my MR03 on EVA puzzle mats with foam tyres. I'll run my AWD on woodfloor. An ultra grippy RC car, a rally one, I'll be in heaven. Many thanks from Le Mans, France
@ducky1774
@ducky1774 3 года назад
Can I overheat the motor if I drift it stock?
@BMR3
@BMR3 3 года назад
Yes but its unlikely. just watch out for very high grip surfaces like carpet since the car will have to work harder to break lose.
@kgraham204
@kgraham204 3 года назад
Axles not swing arms but great video!
@BMR3
@BMR3 3 года назад
Thank you for the support Keith!
@coryvanlaar7677
@coryvanlaar7677 Год назад
Pn part number for orange toe bar please
@sindbadsailor7868
@sindbadsailor7868 4 года назад
Halloo... i’m very new here... i saw a couple of your video.. but i’m still confused about how to drift/upgrade/find place to buy the parts... i have MA020 also... this is my rc, but it’s really hard to control it
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Hello Sinbad, I’m happy to help. If you are just staring out, I would recommend not upgrading anything yet. Just spend some time driving the car & trying to control a drift. You don’t need upgrades to drift, they just make it slightly easier once you have some minor skill. I buy almost all my parts from Kenon Hobby, but that is because they are US based & I live in California. Let me know if you have any specific questions & I will do my best to help you out
@sindbadsailor7868
@sindbadsailor7868 4 года назад
@@BMR3 well... I still dont get the feel how to control it.. It seems like it's too oversteer.. I've tried to do the basic move (just like donut) many times, but still can not make it.. I need to watch someone's hand while controlling it actually
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Sindbad Sailor when you say it’s over steering too much, do you mean the car is spinning out? If so, you may want to think about locking the rear differential or buying a solid rear axle. The stock ma-020 comes with an open differential that allows power to be transferred to the wheel with the least grip/resistance. This causes the car to spin out & can make drifting less predictable. A locked differential will make it so the power remains consistent to both tiers & you have a more predictable drift line. You can modify your stock differential to a locked differential by glueing the gears together for free. I made a video if you would like to take a look: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--4VGCOyR7vU.html
@sindbadsailor7868
@sindbadsailor7868 4 года назад
BMR 3 yes it’s spinning out... i’ve watched the video... it’s really detail, but i think it’s better for me to buy the part... what is the name of the part? Is it MDW018 Ball Diff Set? Where can i buy it (online)? Thank you so much your reply
@callum4035
@callum4035 4 года назад
How do you hit the brakes on these while drifting?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
I’m not sure I know what you mean, but I think your referring to the front one way differential. You need to hit the brakes so the back wheels will lock up, but a front one way differential will let the front wheels spin freely. This creates an e-brake effect that helps break the car loose for drifting. It’s not really hitting the breaks, just a light tap to help get the rear end unsettle & ready to break lose.
@callum4035
@callum4035 4 года назад
BMR 3 ok, what is it you tap to unsettle the rear?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
The reverse feature doubles as the break if you tap it quickly
@christophergarrido2802
@christophergarrido2802 4 года назад
Where do you order all your parts from?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
80% were from Kenon hobby, I had to order the tie bar from a random shop in Europe & the rest was on eBay.
@cbddiaz7629
@cbddiaz7629 4 года назад
Does it matter if I get the ma 20 vs ma20s?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Ma-020 is better, it utilizes the FHSS frequency which is more reliable & has faster electronics. The ma-020s is the older version with worse electronics
@cbddiaz7629
@cbddiaz7629 4 года назад
@@BMR3 awesome thank you for all the help
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Anytime buddy I’m happy to help when I can!
@cbddiaz7629
@cbddiaz7629 4 года назад
@@BMR3 how long does delivery take from kenon?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
CBD Diaz kennon is has great customer service & will ship next business day. They have always been quick to respond to emails & ship in my experience.
@INFINITIVco
@INFINITIVco 4 года назад
do you have an instagram where I can DM you some questions?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
Nope no gram, I’m not much into social media. You can ask any questions here & I will help to the best of my ability
@INFINITIVco
@INFINITIVco 4 года назад
@@BMR3 basically, I'm interested in the AE86 body. I see one by Kyosho MA-020N #MZP423W. If I get the Kyosho mini-z Nissan skyline kit (32616S) would I be able to simply mount that body onto the chasis that comes with the skyline? It says it's a MA-020 AWD. I'm not sure if the "N" in the ae86 makes a difference. In other words, would a MA-020N fit on a MA-020. Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm super new to mini-z haha
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
I N F I N I T I V no worries it’s not a silly question. I believe the AE86 has a 90mm wheel base & the skyline is 94mm. You can use both bodies on the same chassis but you will need to adjust the rear mount & front clip when swapping. You would need to swap the front clip regardless, but you need to adjust the rear end when changing the wheel base.
@INFINITIVco
@INFINITIVco 4 года назад
@@BMR3 and what do you mean by adjusting the rear/front clip? Thank you!
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
I N F I N I T I V There are two sets of screw holes used to mount the rear end, by changing the screw holes you can adjust the rear end length & overall wheel base. I will try to film a video today on this today, I have a wide verity of bodies so I can use visual aids.
@PieSightFPV
@PieSightFPV 4 года назад
Do you have a link for the aluminum motor mounts and guard?
@BMR3
@BMR3 4 года назад
PieSight FPV I’m not sure what gearing you are running, but I get my stuff from Kenon hobby. Here is a link for the stock gearing & motor clip www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-MA010-Aluminum-Motor-Holder-Set-A1-B1_p_41331.html www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-AWD-Pro-Alm-Motor-Heatsink-Cover-Blue_p_42557.html
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