Great tutorial series, it helped me get my 3 subs all sounding great. One thing you never touch back on in the end though: Do you leave you LPF in the "Bass" settings untouched at 120hz or do you match that to the 110hz that you crossed the front channels at???
Hey Brad, I was hoping I could get your input. First off, I used your instructions to calibrate my two 2000PRO subs and found your instructions very helpful. Thank you! I replaced these 2 subs for a couple of Klipsch 12" subs, which are a 1/3 of the price I paid for my 2000 Pro's. Do you feel I would be downgrading the sound if I calibrated "all 4 subs" in spite of the different brand and quality/power output. Should I just leave my 2000 Pros as is, or do you feel I would benefit by adding the 2 Klipsch for a total of 4 subs? Thank you
It's not very often that a dope like me could follow this type of video. I'm happy to say I did follow it. It doesn't get much clearer or better. tyvm. subbed.
Great tutorial series, it helped me get my 3 subs all sounding great. One thing you never touch back on in the end though: Do you leave you LPF in the "Bass" settings untouched at 120hz or do you match that to the 110hz that you crossed the front channels at???
Are there things like this that work for a simple record player with no need for a computer? I want to make it so my sub only gets the right signals. The speakers will be connected to a record player.
Great video series; I've been watching the various parts to familiarize myself and plan follow these steps soon. A clarification please, as I couldn't find a clear answer on the miniDSP website or in the product manual online - If I want to connect 4 subwoofers to a Denon X3700H receiver that has 2 subwoofer outs, would it be ideal to use both the analog RCA inputs, then assign the front 2 subs to 1 and the rear 2 to the other via the miniDSP software, or connect just 1 subwoofer input from the AVR, and then assign all the 4 subwoofers to it?
I'm trying to setup my miniDSP 2x4 HD but all the tutorials are with the old version of the plugins. Is there a way to download the old version of the plugins?
expensive route to wire 3 subs, what benefits are worth the over 300 price tag on amazon ,why not us the cheaper dayton audio with more outputs i believe
Hi Brad, newb question, sorry. I'm guessing when using two subs and a mini dsp, after all the level matching, etc. Is complete that the dsp stays connected for ever.
I have a question: I am going to use miniDSP for my two subs, question is: Do I need to run audyssey app once I plug in my new sub or after running the miniDSP and aligning my subs then run Audyssey for speakers?
What kind of cable do I use if I want cable from minidsp hd output to my 5.1 reciever? Is it just a subwoofer cable (single rca to dual rca?) I want cable to my left and right speakers Please give link to cables to use
Hi, I was hoping you could give me some advice. I want to correct only one subwoofer and not touch my main left and right speakers which will all be running via my marantz reciever. So my question is do i disconnect the left and right speakers and try and flatten the subwoofer response independently or do I measure the entire system as a whole crossed over at 90hz via the marantz? If I measure and flatten the subwoofer independently once I add the main speakers won't it just destroy the flat response? I'm thinking it's better to measure the sub and main speakers together but then only tweak the subwoofers response to attain a smoother response?
Hi if like me I’m using 2 subwoofers, that are connected to my arcam av40 and have already calibrated with Dirac, I assume from the subwoofer outputs on the arcam I would plug into input 1 and 2 of the mini dsp , then connect my subwoofers to outputs 1 and 2 on the mini dsp is this correct?
The latest UI for mini dsp is nothing like this one but thats not my big problem. I have the mains set to 200 hz crossover but every test tone comes through the mains and the sub. Just the left main if I have that selected, as with the right. :-(
I just got the minidsp, to setup my 2 subs. (One sub out goes to in 1, and out 1 go to sub 1, out 2 on minidsp, go to sub 2) But how do I connect my left and right channels in to minidsp into in 2? I dont have any pre amp outputs on my AVR, I only have 2 subwoofer outputs on it :/ And my source is a computer.
Today I started my miniDSP journey and this instruction video made my setup easy. Very well presented and easy to follow. I will be using your other videos for sure. Thank you! 🍺
Thanks for the tutorial. I'm in the process of watching videos and reading just to try to comprehend all that I can. I'll be getting this in the very near future. Looking forward to the rest of this series. Thanks for making these videos and keep up the great work.
Thank you for the comment. That’s awesome to hear. The miniDSP has been amazing so far, dare I say transformative. It’s been well worth the investment. Sure, it takes some time and some guide following to get the most out of, but you will be rewarded for it. I’ve never heard the bass in my home theater sound and feel as good as it does.
Have you done a rel 3D system? I have two subs as a stereo pair, doing high and LFE. a third on the centre channel - doing high level no LFE and a fourth paired to the rear pair doing high and LFE. Will this process get the best performance for the three subs handling the LFE ? What about the fourth? A link if you have already done this please :-)
Hello, It is a great start. greatly appreciate your effort to educate the basics of HT tuning and set ups. one thing I noticed in several home theater You tube , pretty much everyone assume that the listener knows a lot and lot of things are excluded. It would be great if you can make it a complete video for an average HT person. how the HDMI is connected to AV from computer and why, what should be the Master volume setup and levels on the AV, subwoofers, when you tune with the DSP etc.., thanks once again for your effort.
Thanks for the comment and feedback. The next video will be covering basically all of what you just mentioned, along with explanations as to why we need to do those things. This initial video was focused on the miniDSP integration because the software setup can be the most difficult and confusing part for a lot of people.
Thank you for the feedback. This is part of a tutorial series and not a review or overview guide, so I assume if you're looking for a miniDSP setup guide or a tutorial on how to integrate it into your system, you'd already know the benefits of adding a miniDSP to your system.
Hi Brad, thanks for the awesome videos! Quick question, do you think it would be worth getting the minidsp to EQ one sub? I have a Monolith M-215 and the REW graph doesn't look that bad, but there are a couple dips that could be smoothed out some.
That’s a really good question and something I’ve wanted make a video on. It can help to easily get the best response out of any sub (since it’s a single sub, the process goes rather quickly), and you can have multiple configurations that you can switch to with different curves set up. But it’s true potential is only seen when used with multiple subwoofers in my experience. If you already have something like Audyssey, I would consider testing that and seeing if does a good enough job flattening things out.
I have had outstanding results using the miniDSP with a single sub. Using REW and a calibrated mic I was able to get rid of the worst of the dips and peaks by experimenting with the sub location. Then I used the auto-eq with REW and now have a response curve that is flat from the crossover freq and down 3dB at 20 Hz (12" Adire Shiva sub in .707 alignment, sealed 2 cu ft cabinet). The improvement in low end quality was amazing! Quick tip if your receiver does automatic loudness compensation: DON'T use a "house curve", let the receiver do that work.
Love these videos! Followed them and really got my subs dialed in. However.... I feel like things fell apart for me when integrating my mains and center. You should offer a remote calibration service. I would certainly pay for your experience!
Thanks for the comment! I'm considering offering remote calibration services, though it may end up being something I rarely do because of the added complexity of the "remote" part. When something doesn't go right, troubleshooting remotely STINKS and can make things take a lot longer.
Working on it as we speak actually. Going to shoot tomorrow and Saturday and should have the video out sometime next week if all goes according to plan.
Hi, I understood Home Theater Gurus but what was the other channel that you suggested? I think you are saying "See All Guy Stuff", but I can't find that channel. Thank You.
first spend a few thou on subs, speakers & amps THEN spend a couple of hundred more so you can spend hours to do this. I'm so done w/home theater bs at this point. 🤦
You don’t HAVE to do this, the point is that you can if you want to because the hardware and information is now available to you. Or just decide that you’re happy and content with the sound you already have. It’s the same with any hobby really. There’s a rabbit hole you can choose to go down or not; that’s ultimately up to you. The fact that the ability to do ANY of this is much more accessible than it was 5-10 years ago is amazing.
Jesus, this guy is going 100 mph. I am so frustrated with mini dsp. Stuck now on the 90 degree file. Its one of 5 steps in 20 second. I can find no info on it.
Why do you need to use the "link" in the output section? Isnt that you had just set the route from input1 to output1, output2 and output3 in the first section?
You only need a single connection to the miniDSP from your receiver for your subwoofers. I would recommend just using a single subwoofer output from your receiver into the miniDSP.
This is great information! Thank you. Subscribed. I’m currently trying to work through setting up my mini dsp 2x4 hd and it’s a challenge. My only suggestion would be a little slower pace but love it. Looking forward to your next installment!
Thank you! I definitely appreciate the feedback. The next video will be slower paced but a bit longer than this one. I’m a fan of shorter videos as it can be easier to find and rewatch sections you need without sifting through non-pertinent information, but if I get enough feedback like yours then it means I’m going too fast and need to adjust. Thanks again.
Hi Brad! I just watched your video and wanted to know: Can you switch between inputs simultaneously? I would like to have my pc connected via USB and a chromecast audio via RCA, and was wondering if miniDSP could automatically select the input that is playing audio.
Great tutorial series Brad, Thanks! my AV processor has 2 independent sub-outs. I want to set up miniDSP 2x4 HD to connect 4 subs (2x sb2000 and 2x sb3000). Should I connect two RCA cables to miniDSP 2 Inputs or only 1? Thanks
Thanks! Your tutorial is great. I bought my minidsp 2x4 and am about to start the process with my subs. One sub will be in the front of the room and one in the rear. Do I need to play around with polarity, or it looks like it's called "invert" on the software you were showing. Thanks.
Thanks for the Super Thanks! You can try playing around with the invert function using REW’s alignment tool, as it will show you pretty accurately and instantly what that will do to your subwoofers response. In newer versions of REW, you can also switch the alignment tool to “impulse response,” where you’ll be able to see the impulse peaks and determine if a sub needs to be inverted or not to match the impulse peak of the other subs in your system.
One more question if you don’t mind…I have carefully followed your tutorial and have level matched my subs. But when I am playing the pink noise I hear it in the sub and the left speaker. I have set the Denon up the way you said to do and have no high or low pass filter in minidsp. Is this a problem? Thanks!!!!!!
Hi Brad li just love your videos my dedicated home theater is under construction and I am planning to put 2 Active subs & 2 passive subs. 2 passive subs will go behind my AT screen and 2 Active subs will be placed into the room as required. as I understand the Active subs input can be directly connected to DSP. but for my two Passive subs, I will have 2 dedicated Amplifiers with XLR in ( for which I will be using a special RCA to XLR converter cable ) my question is is it ok to plug the out of DSP to the dedicated sub amplifier with RCA- XLR cable ? and do necessary adjustments on the amplifier ? in the case of Mini DSP, how do you suggest connecting 4 subs? your reply would be highly appreciated
I know I’m late to the party on this. I bought the minidsp and spent 2hrs trying to get sound to even output from the device. I checked all my cables and they all work without the device. Plus the minidsp was being recognized by my laptop and the app was communicating with it (or so it seemed). No clue if I did something wrong or if it’s just a bad unit. Right now I have a refund request in but if you have any tips on what the issue could be, I’ll give it a try. I followed all you setup steps and even watch the HT gurus video to ensure I didn’t miss anything. Everything runs perfect once it’s disconnected so I’m at a loss. Thanks for this playlist even if I don’t get this working. Once again you have done a great job and your time is very appreciated.
Is my Minidsp 2x4HD Defective? I have the cables physically installed as follows. Reciever LFE to input 1 on minidsp, output 1 to L Sub, and output 2 to R Sub. All the inputs and outputs match on the MiniDSP routing screen on the computer, with what is physically installed. All unused channels/routings are turned off. I noticed no signal (visibly/audibly on the computer screen meter output channel 2) going to my R Sub. I then looked at the other input/output meters, and there is a signal going to output 3 (even though its turned off on the routings). I then unmute output 3, and get signal to my right sub which is physically connect to output 2! Hmm I only plan to have two subs, so this isnt a show stopper. So Im fine with my work-around, I guess! Thanks
Hello, great video! :) Do I have to turn on or off the "extra bass" on the Yamaha Reciver. Do the front speakers have to run with when calibrating or can they be turned off? Thank you.
I am a little confused. I am looking at this for hopefully giving me the ability to install subwoofers on either a McIntosh or Hegel which don't have subwoofer out. Will it work for these devices?
I’m looking to replace this now. It stops passing audio randomly over usb. Their forum site is filled with people complaining about the issue for about 4 years and no fix whatsoever.
Can you use the MiniDSP2x4 to make these corrections or are the differences between the MiniDSP 2x4 and the MiniDSP 2x4 HD so great that the lower price version won't function well enough to control 4 sub woofers?
If I set this up as a 2.1 device with my windows computer and then plug it in to my linux desktop via SPDIF will it work they way I configured it with windows?
I have 2 monolith 12s and 2 klipsh 12s. Obviously the monoliths hit way harder and are much better. Will this box work for these 4 subs and make them sound better
Youthman sent me. I am just about finished building my dual Marty's and bought a minidspHD to set them up and one existing sub. I also have powered subs in my towers that I currently have directly connected to LFE. Not sure if I will just ad my Velodyne and use 3 subs use towered subs to have 3 connected. I am sure I will visit these tutorials a lot during setup
I m glad I watched part one. I have non HD one 2x4 My plugin is 2x4 advanced I'm using for two passive subs that go into a external two channel amp with two seperate level knobs tactile shakers combine with that amp to on its line level sub out. I have my pluggin set to analoge but only hearing one side . nothing is muted my matrix router high lights output one on top and two on bott I'm what could that be one side and not the other I'll watch part two of your video later.
Let’s say I have 5 subs and I have two individual sub pre outs in any avr Should I use 4 subs with the md dsp and the 5th on the avr sub out 2? Or should I daisy chain it to the nearest sub? Or get a another dsp. Which I don’t mind if it’s gonna help?
Very informative video!, thank you very much, I am intending to buy one of these for my stereo system (2.0) with room correction purposes. All of the videos that I have found in RU-vid are focused on either subwoofers or in the whole HT system; I haven’t been able to find one related to stereo systems.
Thank you. I have Dual SVS PB2000 and a AVC-X6500H running a 7.2.4 set up and my next upgrade will be a minidsp and u-mik1. I also have a Roksan Kandy K3 hooked up to it for 2 channel listening. Looking forward to learning REW
Can you do this with subs that are mixed? I have two subs from different makers but roughly the same power. Ii understand its not ideal but funds prevent me doing two of the same make
Main issue would be frequency responses not matching between the two in the lower octaves, which may or may not be noticeable to you. The transient response of each will be different as well(basically how quick the driver can move and respond to a signal), so even when dialed in one might be slightly less responsive than the other. This might not be noticeable at all unless you’re looking at impulse response sweeps in REW.
This may sound like a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. after you're done with all the eq, time alignment etc... does the minidsp need to remain connected to all the subs to retain the settings?
Not a dumb question. The answer is yes, the miniDSP needs to be connected at all times after everything is done as that is what stores and applies the EQ and time delay setting a for each individual subwoofer.
The SVS app is great, especially if you want to boost the output temporarily but the MiniDSP does everything the SVS PEQ does and more so it would be best to leave everything stock and calibrate with MiniDSP.
I am concerned about the mimiDSP noise floor. Can it be used with high sensitivity speakers such as horn based speakers. I imagine a lot of hiss coming from the tweeter unless the miniDSP has a noise gate .
I can’t speak to that as I don’t have any experience using the MiniDSP outside of subwoofers. Maybe someone else can chime in here and answer your question.
I spent 8 hours trying to EQ my 2 subs with a Dayton Audio LF-DSP(only does one sub) unit and it bloody confusing and seems to be a waste of time. When the money is available I'm going with this unit for sure. Thanks Brad!
Nice! I just got one of these and did the basic set up. I can't wait for the following videos so i can learn how to set my settings better with your video walk-through. Thank you!
Huh? Could you have talked any faster about the setup process? WTF? One or two fewer cups of coffee before you make a video could go a long way. Holy Christ.
@Richard T, instead of being ungrateful for a free tutorial, you could simply go to Settings > Playback Speed and slow it down to up to 0.25 speed so you can follow along. Oh, and there's also the pause button too.
Hahaha!! 🤣 This cracks me up. There are around 37,000 views and you're the only comment that says he's talking too fast which sounds like a you problem.
@@trishpipkins Yeah, I thought it was funny too. I'm technology challenged, which makes it even funnier. I wouldn't have understood much of this regardless of the speed of his voice. Anyway, it seems I may have upset you or offended you. I apologize for that. Take care.
It would be better to use one but if you are using 2, you need to make sure that all the settings are set as a baseline / the same on each sub on the AVR/Processor and let the MiniDSP do all the work.
Awesome and thank you! It's amazing product and I can't stress enough how much it improved the bass in my home theater over the years. I hope you find the videos useful!
There's just one problem. We need a bigger TV. Having three subwoofers is something I had no idea I need in my life. But now that you've got them hooked up I just can't go back to life with two subwoofers. I guess I should look into working more overtime to pay for it. 😂😂😂
@@HomeTheaterGamer I'm not mad. I just need more money so you can work your magic and I can watch things in the style I'm getting accustomed to. First you ruined me on coffee and now home theater. 😂
Great video. It was very clear and well articulated. Question: My receiver has 2 independent subwoofer outputs. This video shows the use of a single output from the receiver. Should I use both outputs from my receiver? It has Audyssey XT32 and can adjust each sub individually.
Was wondering this also. When you have Sub EQ (usually when you have XT32) then you should connected the subs using both outputs as described here: www.minidsp.com/support/community-powered-tutorials/201-dual-sub-integration Be aware that two outputs does not always mean both can be adjusted individually.
@@HomeTheaterGamerhey Brad, thanks for the awsome video. After watching your content , i bought a Minis dsp & Umik 1 for my X3800 H denon. But it has individual subwoofer out puts and i have 2 subs. So should i plug with 1 RCA in or get 2 plug as saperate one? TIA
I have watched so many MiniDSP & REW videos and never knew that you could change the name to identify which subs were which. I cannot wait to see the rest of the videos in this series. Great Video!
1 is fine in most cases so if you use 2, make sure they settings are at 0db etc in the AVR/Processor. The one benefit to using 2 is that you can turn them off individually but that would render the calibration file unusable anyway. The sub outputs we see nowadays is much more useful for systems without a DSP on the LFE line.
@@FatterTony , please be more specific , I have to connect each sub output from AVR to DSP 2x4HD , sub 1 to input 1 and sub 2 to input 2 , the matrix will be in cross in/out . ok . ?
@mihaiiliescu1324 I don't think it would make sense to plug in 2 sub outs from avr into 2 ins on the dsp as the usefulness of 2 x sub outputs is rendered obsolete when using a dsp. So 1 x sub rca from the dsp then output from the dsp to however many subs you have 👍
@@FatterTony sorry , in this case I cancel one sub out from receiver , is it ok ? i will have one out from AVR and two out from miniDSP to subwoofers , 1 plus 2 < correct , sorry for my dummies q , I am new on this . And another q , I saw in part 4 , the measurements for crossovers for surround and center use asio4all, I cant find this for mac or isn t necessary?
Since the MiniDSP acts as your splitter, you’d only use one of the subwoofer outputs on the receiver. The second output could come in handy if you have the need for another MiniDSP (for subwoofer counts higher than 4) or a bass shaker system.
