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Mirage F1 vs MiG-21 | Cobus Toerien 

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Former SAAF Mirage F1 pilot, Cobus Toerien, shares going up against Angolan MiG-21s during the Angolan Conflict.
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@javiermarrero3525
@javiermarrero3525 Год назад
My uncle, Raciel Marrero was the lead of the group that flew on october 5 1982 against Toerien and Rankin. He got shot down by gun fire from Major Rankin, but managed to reach the airport.
@iqbalsandu8182
@iqbalsandu8182 Год назад
Is he still around?
@gerhardtnell5541
@gerhardtnell5541 5 месяцев назад
Outstanding! What a super guy. One of our best.
@iphoneupdate
@iphoneupdate Год назад
My Uncle served in the Mig 21 Squadron, respect to the SAAF pilots. Glad the war finally ended.
@johannschachtner7539
@johannschachtner7539 2 года назад
What an amazing story!!! As youngster I was mesmerised by the SAAF “vlamgatte” and to hear this interview almost 40 years later is just priceless!!! Such a great channel with brilliant content.
@Aircrewinterview
@Aircrewinterview 2 года назад
Thanks very much, Johann!
@Farweasel
@Farweasel 2 года назад
It really is. There's one thing that really comes across time after, time after time 'though .................. They're all really great guys that are being interviewed. Sure, you wouldn't trust half of them with your wife, your girlfriend or misstresses. But you'd be delighted to have them coving your back if there was trouble around.
@Fast85FoxGT
@Fast85FoxGT 2 года назад
This is awesome. What a cool experience and story.
@robertjacobsfishing
@robertjacobsfishing 2 года назад
Amazing to hear the story from Cobus!
@andrewferguson3535
@andrewferguson3535 7 дней назад
Great interview what an amazing man 👏
@pabl841
@pabl841 Год назад
How vs Cuban MiG-23?
@CarlosMoreno-dq3kg
@CarlosMoreno-dq3kg 2 года назад
Great video, do you know at what altitudes was the shotdown? And if he felt that the F1 wing grab the air better at high altitude than the delta of the mig21?, I would like to know the opinion of Cobus, because I understand that the delta wing is better at high altitude than the wing of the F1.
@Tyroniusmaximus92
@Tyroniusmaximus92 2 года назад
Amazing interview!
@Aircrewinterview
@Aircrewinterview 2 года назад
Thank you!
@user-ez9en7vk2z
@user-ez9en7vk2z Год назад
Amazing untold stories.
@Magpie...
@Magpie... 2 года назад
Hey does anyone know the book he was talking about?
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 2 года назад
Nice.
@kpsig
@kpsig 2 года назад
I have not seen the interview yet, I vote for Mirage in all aspects but climb. Let me see ;-)
@keyboardcommando9046
@keyboardcommando9046 2 года назад
You can probably only use that extra climbing capability if you can risk the extra fuel losses, which the migs usually couldn't. Their operation range was pretty limited.
@0MoTheG
@0MoTheG 2 года назад
6:10 I did not understand what was everyone's vectors. Were they in a turning fight or not? What happened after the first merge?
@CPiGTi
@CPiGTi 2 года назад
The pair of Mirage F1's crossed head on with the pair of MIG's. They then made a 180 degree turn and chased the MIG's, As the MIG's were accelerating out of range, Maj Rankin flicked his intercept radar onto transmit in the hope that the MiG radar warning receiver would alert their pilots and force them to turn into the F1's, which they did. The F1's closed the gap and shot down one of the MIG's. While there was another MIG pair following a few miles behind the first pair. So essentially the were following one pair while being chased by another pair. Hope that makes sense?
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 2 года назад
@@CPiGTi Major Rankin was my Squadron Commander at 89 Combat Flying School in Petersburg. The Cheetah D were stationed here till '90. Saw him yelling at pilots after ACM flights if they make stupid mistakes... Was very interesting time....
@CPiGTi
@CPiGTi 2 года назад
@@useryggfdcc what a guy to learn from though
@tonyaughney8945
@tonyaughney8945 2 года назад
The SAAF was the finest Air Force in Africa, but not anymore.
@mybru1
@mybru1 2 года назад
And why not? do you currently serve in the the air force have you undergone air force training in the past 20+ years
@mazambane286
@mazambane286 2 года назад
@@mybru1 Have been under a rock the past 27 odd years?
@robinfist
@robinfist 2 года назад
Correct. The number of aircraft that can be put in the air is extremely low. The budget is non existent too, so combat proficiency suffers heavily. Look at 28Sqn. How many C-130s are still flying? And this is at a time when parts are readily available. The SAAF is now a stitch of what it was. Facts speak fro themselves.
@Me-mr8wk
@Me-mr8wk 2 года назад
@@robinfist it's a waste of money if saaf puts all the aircraft in the air now, plus we don't need to worry because our neighbors don't even have a working airforce
@robinfist
@robinfist 2 года назад
@@Me-mr8wk the SAAF could never put all of them in the air. There is no money and limited skill. And if there is really no threats as you say, then why even have the aircraft in the first place? The F1AZ and Cheetahs are still flying elsewhere, so why spend on Gripens ($$$$$ in the pocket for politicians). The SAAF has become a joke. Half the SAAF can't even spell Gripen. Feel so sorry for my friends that served there, to see their air force go this way. Where I am from, our aircraft are all well maintained and even though our neighbors are allies, if we need to deploy, we are ready.
@martinlagrange8821
@martinlagrange8821 Год назад
FYI - since the introduction of the Mirage F-1C to DCS World, the encounter has now been simulated to some precision - do have a look here : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8T6G1wXH3r0.html&ab_channel=Showtime112
@nardusellis655
@nardusellis655 2 года назад
If my memory serves me right first MIG 21 that was shot down in operation Daisy by a Mirage MK 3 R on a foto recce...the pilots nickname "Cheronky" (Kapt). Two Mirages where involved....but the number two try to shoot down his MiG that he followed and the sidewinder missile trigger mail functioned...pilot Kapt "Schabord" I was ground crew at the time and based at 2 Squadron Hoedspruit.
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 2 года назад
I was working in Hoedspruit '83 till '85 1 Sqn
@nardusellis655
@nardusellis655 2 года назад
@@useryggfdcc I left in 1982 to do flight engineer course in Bloemspruit on Alo's.
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 2 года назад
@@nardusellis655 It was interesting time. In '85 while working as a Radar/avionics tech on the MirageF1 AZ they send me to work on the Cheetah project. Stayed on that till '95. Now live in Canada 🇨🇦.
@user-qo7zf1wo6u
@user-qo7zf1wo6u 2 года назад
This battle was epic in one side you have the mirage F1 able to carry up to six baguettes and 200 round of Croissant and on the other side the mig able to carry up to 4 vodka heat seeking missiles and 120 rounds of babushka
@kpsig
@kpsig 2 года назад
Κάπως έτσι
@garynew9637
@garynew9637 2 года назад
Haha
@sargesacker2599
@sargesacker2599 2 года назад
120 rounds of grandmother? Must be the size of a village.
@user-ez9en7vk2z
@user-ez9en7vk2z 2 года назад
Aspera Ad Astra.
@Deontjie
@Deontjie 2 года назад
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@chrisp4170
@chrisp4170 2 года назад
No idea what this guy was talking about.
@Farweasel
@Farweasel 2 года назад
Wombles. You might be missing them right now. Better go and check.
@travellingsawyer
@travellingsawyer 2 года назад
Chris P, you clearly are not a South African or a military veteran …. Read up and enjoy the true tales of combat.
@MrSiciro
@MrSiciro 2 года назад
So you cant hear in English :-)
@chrisp4170
@chrisp4170 2 года назад
@@MrSiciro Yes, English is fine. What language was that?
@Farweasel
@Farweasel 2 года назад
@@chrisp4170 Serf Effrikan English (You may wish to reconsider your assertion you're OK with English)
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