I'm from saudi and I had the misimoto ordered but when I saw this video I canceled and ordered one like the knock off you have ... thank you so much this was so informative. Appreciated
Most likely answer is that Mishimoto cheaped out on production by having a Chinese manufacturer construct their cans, and the manufacturer decided to cut into their profits and take a chunk for themselves by re-branding the exact same parts they produce with a generic label and cut down price. Chinese manufacturing companies undercut their foreign contractors all the time because once they've gotten the blueprints, there's no legal recourse to keep them from re-branding the parts they already tooled their lines to produce.
Can you blame them for that? In my book no. Imagine us consumers being left in the dark and paying their brand's egos while they throw dirt in our eyes by 'made in house' rubbish. No wonder why their economy grows like mad. When your 'own' kind wants to feed their greed, I'll throw them a fist or dirt to push deeper into the grave.
Doesn't prevent American companies from making a better product (if possible.) People with expensive vehicles will pay for a better product... but only if it exists. Is there a better (American) design that's not being produced?
@SkorpryoTFC allow me to correct you a little bit.. Mishimoto is not Apple. They don't have design. All they have is a brand. They find a Chinese manufacture who owns the design, and purchased their product, and stamped the "Mishimoto" brand on the product, selling 10x more expensive to the American market. While these manufactures also sell their products to other brands. (They are not selling to consumers directly)
I bought two of the cheap ones. Upgraded the hose fittings to 19mm brass barbs. Now I’m running dual catch cans at a fraction of the cost. Of a genuine mishimoto
Better, one for the PCV, one for the breather, another one for the oil dipstick, one for the oil cap, one for the brake booster, another one for the intercooler, another one for the cabin air filter. The combinations are limitless.
Not mentioned but worth noting, the mishimoto comes with a specific mount bracket for some cars. That is added to the cost and ease of mounting to your vehicle. Also, the mishimoto comes with custom lenght and molded/shaped hoses which if like my car, if the hoses were not pre-shaped, custom formed, i would have had nearly no way to route and connect to my manifold. Also, a way to tell if the mishimoto is made in china, im not saying it is or isnt, it will say on the box made in china. I bought mine 4 years ago so i have no box to look at. The companies in china can make product's look 99% like american made products. Thats what they do exceptionally well.
Yes, you can get the hose fittings in different sizes. I also found banjo fittings that allow for right angle applications to facilitate tight locations. I added extra holes to the banjo bolts for better flow.
I would say, in all cases, keep the $15 can. Just go to the hardware store and buy the right size fittings for your application. Maybe cost another $5. $20 vs. $120 is a no brainer.
Buyer beware.The only problem is that it doesn't function the same. Upon further research there are plenty of Amazon reviews complaining about knock off leaking or falling to work as expected. This review is superficial. The higher price tag on M brand is because they had to engineer , promote, and produce while offering a lifetime warranty, so they have to recuperate the investment somehow. Higher overhead means a higher asking price.
Great review! Thanks for doing this. I have the cheap kind for almost 4 years now. Recently it started leaking from that bottom plug. The teltail that it's leaking or sucking air is when you see the oil it's catching looks like a milky light brownish fluid instead of this blackish oil That you usually get. Frothing-Thats when fine air bubbles mixes with the oil and gets agitated. I was very tempted to buy the original Moshimoto model to replace it. But what I did instead is just clean the thread of that bottom plug with acetone, and apply Permatex black gasket maker. Applied it in both the plug threads and the can's threads. make sure no excess gasket maker goes inside of the can. Also applied it to the 2 hose Barb threads. Let it dry for 24 hours as the permatex black gasket maker instruction says. I also replaced the big O-ring, and the two small ones on the hose barbs. Now it works again like a champ with no leak. The two small # 21 O-rings I got from Taylor do it store, and the big one from amazon, dimension 54x58x2( 54mm ID x 58mm OD x 2mm width), or the 54x60x3 also works. they came in 10 pack.
Billy thanks for that comment was asking my self it really works. U have ppl out here charging $200-300 for something China makes for the same price and sells for less. American companies are seriously a scam. As much as ppl bash EBAY the most high end parts come from them
Old video, I know, but the smaller fittings are probably better anyway because it will create higher velocity air which will help pull more oil particles into the can.
NEVER saw the sense in paying stoopid $$$$$$$$ for a brand name whatever. Except hard parts like cranks, valves, springs, injectors, intakes, etc. Hell you could even BUILD your own catch can, if you are so inclined. I bought a couple of cheapo ones off ebay. Work perfectly fine, catch all the oil vapor, I empty them out every 3rd or 4th fillup. I also added extra steel wool in the can to catch more vapor. Tried it inits original configuration, then added the steel wool, IMO that made it work much better.
Interesting video! On orifice size- flow does not matter but velocity does matter so going with bigger orifices is better because the velocity is reduced and will allow contaminants to drop out.
Cheers, you just saved me a lot of money too. I nearly bought a Mishimoto, this exact model, then did a last minute RU-vid search, found this video, then went right onto Ali-express and bought the exact same thing for about 1/10th the price. The one I ordered also has the correct (for my car) 1/2" sized hose barb connector bits, and a little drain lever for the bottom to save removing the canister lower half to drain the oil each time. It's such a simple thing, and it saves GDI engines, so i don't know why the auto manufacturers don't include something like this to filter the oily gasses from the PCV -- from factory. I guess if they did, people wouldn't know to empty them periodically and they'd overflow back into the intake...
Thanx bro... I recently bought an oil catch can from bullboost performance it's exactly da same that those 2 i will try to put it on tomorrow n hope that really do his job. For a 2011 Chevy Colorado 2.9 street race n drift project Saludos desde Ensenada México
Installing one on my 2012 Cadillac cts coupe lfx 3.6 , I would take the Tracy Lewis RX catch can but for the meantime this will do versus Nothing🤙Thanks for the info and video!! Good job👍
The mildly bored tone lends itself well to this. Just checked the knockoff I ordered and it comes with 10mm inside diameter hose and fittings. Thanks for pointing out.
Good stuff my guy. I wanted to try the unbranded Chinese myself as I thought exactly what you're describing. But I am doing brakes and tyres this month on my 2011 TTS with 40k miles. Doing them together seems a big bill but it has to be done sooner or later. I am thinking doing a video that I can't find here for some budget but popular tyres that I've seen in a good price. 255/35/19 tyres aren't cheap if you want to go for a reputable brand, cheapest reputable tyres are TOYO PROXES Sport which I know they're good but if tyres with 30-40% less money are equally good why not? Knowledge is power and we should share it. Keep them coming brother. Peace
2:34 You mention the threads as being the same on both, but the less expensive one on the right seems to have O-Ring Boss threads (confirmed by the O-ring) which are of constant diameter, and the other (on the left) uses NPT threads which increase in diameter making them snug up when screwed in. The latter needing PTFE tape as well. (Also the size of the O-Ring Boss appears to be -6AN.)
@@Mr95Kenny From the video my best visual guess is that Mishimoto uses 1/4 NPT and the other -6AN male. So I checked and found that both have 18 threads per inch and are very close in overall diameter, so they would sort of thread into each other. But if the Mishimoto is tapered (and that's a big IF) they would interchange to some degree but never seal properly, even using PTFE. That would also explain why you felt the fitting to be lose when swapped.
@@Mr95Kenny I have since my last post acquired an unbranded Mishimoto knock-off catch can and found the threads to be M16 x 1.5 straight thread. You also will need an O-ring to seat any fitting other than the one it comes with --- of course you can simply swap the ones from the unit. I wanted a larger size barb so I Googled for an "M16 x 1.5 to hose barb". Not too many places have such a piece, but it does exist, at least in brass.
@@thecarman3693 I recently put a mishimoto catch can on my car. I've had them before. Somewhere along the line they switched the type of fittings they use. They used to have an o-ring and were designed to be tightened all the way down. With the tapered fittings, the instructions say to not tighten it down all the way. I'm pretty sure they started using the tapered threads to save money on o-rings, believe it or not lol
I bought a knock off from amazon that looks pretty similar, only problem was leaking oil from the bottom bolt. I ended up sealing all the hardware with gasket maker and that was an easy fix. Recently I tried to "blow air" with my mouth into one of the hose and tested the amount of air that was getting out from the other side and I've noticed that was surely restricted. Does mishimoto one have the same air restriction of the knock off version?
The knock off,actually aint the knock off out of them two,but the mishimoto is the real knock off here,they stamp and make it just a little diffrent as you see with the plastic vs alu to safe cost, they buy them cheap and sell them with their brand for a few 100% profit on top,while in reality the name stamped is the knock off product. This happens with alot of big names and products.
Man, would have been nice for a link to the knock off...as finding the exact one might be difficult with the numerous one's looking similar! Unsure of why some have/need their own breather as well?
The key words are: BOTH MADE IN CHINA! (4:02). Either you buy one "as per designer specs" at 150$ and you get it in six days, or you buy the "maybe it will work" at 15$, the manufacturing scrap (loose thread, diminished flow...) with delivery in 30 days, your money GO to China! The money will come back to double the price of your house and make impossible for your kids to buy one, or they will pay all their life the mortgage to China. This movie is a very good lesson of political economics! Thumbs up!
Look and feels the same. well done good. BUT ... do both WORK the same? Are both just as EFFECTIVE (..or approximately)..?? Proof of the cake is ALWAYS in the eating.
Great video! Would a filter on top help aswell? I seen on amazon same company sell one with a filter. Would that help you in the winter with the water build up?
Christian Dykow them are for if you vent the air to the atmosphere and not back to the turbo and intake. Yes its small but not good for environment, and your losing the gas vape to be re burnt
a cheap version of an oil catcher is not a fake, but a product without a sticker of any brand, mishimoto is just a customer company that buys from a Chinese manufacturer and sells under its own name for 10 times more expensive
Do you think you could por seafoam into the catch can and when the engine is running it will gradually pull vacuum and atomize the seafoam into the intake and clean the valves for you?
Rwgards to the sintered bronze filter baffle, does it need cleaning once its filled with oil etc? and how do we clean it? or needs replacement? a couple of sites mentiomed such filter needs ultrasonic cleaning....true?
I've always scratched my head every time I seen the photos in the descriptions either which on Amazon or ebay and they all look the same it's just a brand they're trying to sell you
private labelling, buisnesses do it all the time manufacturing sell their patent to companies to put their label on it, that's is why you see alot of similar products with identical designs.
flow does not matter but velocity does matter so going with bigger orifices is better because the velocity is reduced and will allow contaminants to drop out.
I bought the misimoto catch can and im installing it in my sport civic and its a turbo hatchback i was thinking the knockoff one was bit small for the ports flow.
Also, for proper fit, the hoses that go onto the PCV valve and intake manifold need to be similar in diameter to the catch can fittings so that there are no air leaks. Vacuum loss means malfunction.
Did anyone try installing a catch can on the 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey? Mine has an unusual PCV shape. Please let me know if installing the catch can on the 2010 Odyssey is possible. Or does it even need one? Thank you
I don't think the Chinese one is a knock off product what I reckon is, it is genuine made by some low end Chinese catch can factory in China, and all these greedy big brand companies just order from them, stamped their brand on it and sell it double or triple the price.
Yep, Mishimoto is just a cheap arse chinese knock off with a higher price. Thanks for posting this. The mishimoto adds won't show what's inside. That brass filter will clog up in no time. So I'll go with one that has the stainless steel "brillo pad" as a filter as it will flow much better and is able to be cleaned where the brass filter is a throw away. It pays to do some reasearch when you want quality.
