Miya Ponsetto (Soho Karen) | Mental Health & Personality 

Right? I think I sprained an optic nerve on that one.

I've known a few Puerto Ricans in my life. They can be obnoxiously racist or self-righteous AF.

@@crochunter35 the only thing she is, is an entitled woman used to getting what she wants all her life because of her youth and appearance. It’s the only thing of value she possesses.

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@@blancasd they can be bigotted for sure. Racism is a system thing and requires power a colonized island doesn't have. They can also be seriously into colorism. This lady is a neo sociopath.

They forget that society does not let a male use any sort of violence to defend themselves against a female.

@@grahvis that kid is also skinny.. I live in NYC and saw the video. She assaulted and overpowered him.

Yeah but just imagine if that happens to my 14 year old son I dont think she could be the one I jail !! specially if she tackles my kid she would in the hospital !!

Some people say that?!!??!?! What the hell!

she is a spoiled child who at the end is a pure narcissist; I feel very sorry for the men in her life.

Natalie Lawyer Chick explains that - in New York, it's only assault if the physical attack resulted in injuries. Highly recommend Natalie's channel (she's a criminal defense attorney).

@@melindalayden1693 Agree NatalieLawyerChick is excellent channel!

she was charged w a hate crime but took a plea deal where she can’t get in trouble w the law for 2 years and she will only get a misdemeanor instead of a felony. if she does get in trouble she will b charged w the felony and face 4 years in jail. this happened in April 2022 so she’s only been crime free for ~3 months now

@@cookie80088 i think she got off extremely light considering she's been arrested muliple times before this incident which imo wasn't taken into account with her plea deal as it should have been.

I know you. You sell beans

agreed give at least a year, hell with so many other minor charges it seems she has been skating by getting any real punishment for a few years now,.

no way! thousands of people in the US lose their phones everyday and then go and tackle the first black person they see. it's a thing now...

Lol. Exactly!

"The mysteries of the universe" 😂

Unless there’s something on that phone that she doesn’t want others to find or see... Hmmm, I wonder what it might be? 🤔

I agree with, I actually lose my iphone at a store last year. I knew someone in the store has probably picked it up. I politely when to the store manager and let them know,. Then I drove home and located my phone on the app. Then I called the police and the police actually recover my phone. I would have never any thought, about confront a person about my phone. This 22 year old lady, didn’t handle this situation with common sense.

she doesn't understand that 14 year olds are children. i believe its because he is a Black kid. when i was 14 much more mature white people would chat me up , i remember being confused about this because i did not even have the vocabulary to hold a conversation with someone aged 18.

@@PHlophe I can imagine that being _very_ confusing. Being female I also had older people hit on me. When you're young it's hard to read the signs. The words she is using really point to her as the victim. Which of course is a fantasy. Since when does anyone refer to a 14 year old boy as a "Guy"? No honey.

How old is she?

@@EmilyDickmesome 22

You guys should see the footage of her getting arrested for drink driving. You see the "personality" full on display. Oh and the passenger is her mother! Yes excellent parent!

Steven Wright would match him ideally

The doctor is shady 😆

do not pass go do not collect $200

She also scratch the father who was defending his son.

She's a woman. unless she kills somebody older than a phoetus, she will not likely go to jail ever.

She'll have to learn manners quickly in jail. They'll be beaten into her.

Jade Zee Not the case. "Your" imagination precedes you .

I said the very same thing the first time I saw the footage. Take a beat and think lady- this kid so happens to have a case that fits your exact phone? The one he allegedly JUST stole? Okaaaaay...

That's the first thing I yelled at the screen.

I wonder if she was also drunk during her attack of this young boy? She seemed crazed!

@@TheLoveweaver no doubt

Exactly. How about calling her number from the hotel desk phone?

It would be wise for her to get her mind off of herself. She could have been forgiven but she refuses to admit to any wrong doing.

I believe her when she says that. Thing is, intention doesn’t change what she did. This happened because she wouldn’t take a step back and contemplate what happened to her phone, that she lost her phone rather than it was stolen. Instead of remain reasonable she reacted at the first person she saw with what looked like her phone. And she didn’t hold herself back because she’s used to getting her way and not being held responsible f9r her actions

Miya can't get out of her own way. Everything is all about her.

lol

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😂😂

Lol

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🤣 Notting Hill.

just for a hot minute....

She has a minor case of Jussie smolletitis

well, if someone's mistake is assaulting a child, I think it does.

@RewindMe period point blank

A mistake might not define you but double downing on it and refusing to accept responsibility sure as hell does.

@RewindMe spilling wine is an accident.

And especially when she still doesn’t even take accountability

I bet you also complain how the us has the highest prison population

@@willnill7946 Truthfully I couldn't give a sh*t about US jails as I'm from the UK 😂😂😂😂

Jail doesn't rehabilitate anyone. If anything, it will make her worse. She needs a psychologist. Not jail.

@@cjstats1514 I'd say she needs both 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ especially as this isnt her first 'error in judgement'

Her parents sheltered and spoiled her into becoming what she is. If they failed to raise her properly, she could from now on only be scared and shamed into good behavior with legal sentences. But that level of entitlement, whether innate or put into her head by her incompetent parents, could never be wiped out, I'm afraid. But I agree with Dr. Grande that she's not going to have an easy life from now on. Everybody knows her face and name, this case is going to haunt her for the rest of her life, perhaps even if her character improves. I wouldn't be surprised, if she decided to change her name later. I would in her place.

Yes. Watching it I was thinking how I would have wanted to throw her through that window, if I were that dad. Could I have stopped myself?

probably hyper aware of what the legal system could do to a black man who lays hands on a white woman, no matter how fair it is for him to do so.

@@saggguy7 I’m sure you’re right and he did the right thing for himself and his family. I’m just saying that not every father would have the presence of mind to think that through.

@@saggguy7 of course the feminists would have screeched mUh-soj-Uh-nEe if he knocked her teeth out after tackling his son. He would have had every right to do just that. But some still have it in their minds that women are supposed to be treated like an exalted class

She’s lucky the mom wasn’t there....

Amen!!!

People have been on lockdown too long and are acting fools now

@@CSondie It's a lot deeper than that, hope these traitors are locked down for life.

Mic drop

It's a leftist specialty

It's not narcissism. I've known people like her in the past. Their issues are they have a lot of moral flaws and qualities that are not appealing to most people. They did not do well in school. They are generally lazy. They don't have any goals in life. They are generally sociably negative people and can never find anything good to say about anything or anyone. And they know this about themselves. When they go out into the world, they go out with a very fragile and delicate mask on. Joggers and bike riders make her angry because she's too lazy to ride a bicycle and too lazy to jog. The friendly restaurant hostess makes her angry because she's doesn't know how to be friendly like the hostess. Her lawyer makes her angry because she's too stupid to go to college and become a lawyer. The world is a mirror that reflects her reflection right back at her to see, and she doesn't like what she sees.

Cue words!

I hate stuff like that, just so messed up!

Narcissistic Personality Disordee.

That’s horrible. Some ppl are so egotistical they won’t even acknowledge when they’ve wronged a child One time a cop drove into a barricade and it fell on me (a kid) and bruised my leg. He said I wasn’t supposed to stand there. It was a tourist area and those barricades separate the pedestrians from traffic so that was a lie. He could’ve just apologized and I would’ve understood as it was a mistake but he blamed me instead

I would have slugged that "adult" with comments like that.

@@whygohome172 yup those NPD people are EVERYWHERE.. the public really needs to learn

Gaslighting is a universal tactic used by those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Superb and insightful post.

You need to learn a out Dalia Dippolito. She hired a hitman to kill her husband, was caught on film haggling with the hitman, then called her husband from prison demanding he drop the charges, trying to gaslight him into trusting her and not his lying eyes & ears when she knew he saw the recordings of her talking about how she wanted him murdered. Her husband kept bringing up he heard what she said on those videos and she never changed her story. It was always “You don’t understand” and “I didn’t do anything”, or “Why are you doing this to ME?” She couldn’t process being unable to use her status as a young and attractive woman to bend men to her will. Even being dead to rights with audio/video proving her guilt she wouldn’t admit what she had done

Ha. So many people don’t have valid DL let alone insurance. Since I turned 16 I have never been without insurance or my DL. It’s amazing how people don’t give a crap!

No one is saying that she's a girl, but Miya herself.

The news stories describe him as a child.

She’s charged w endangerment of a child...

He's a teenager. Not a child

@@northerncalifornia3566 a 14 year old teenager is a child 😂😂😂😂😂

Right. Also "perpetrator, aggressor, belligerent party, instigator, antagonizer, false accuser, liar, and soon to be, criminal" - are good words to use.

I'm willing to bet the 14 year old boy is more responsible and mature than this bimbo.

@@leonieromanes7265 true, but that doesn't make him a young man compared to someone 8 years his senior. I agree with you, I just think it's ridiculous how the media has characterized this case.

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Excellent point.

I was thinking escort

I was thinking more 'spoiled daddy's girl' !

Well it does happen of course. In Belgium there is now a case of a man on a bike deliberately knocking down a child with his knee, because he is annoyed the child is walking there. The police looked into it is difficult to move forward as the child wasn't seriously injured.

THIS

And after hearing her speak- she’s obviously a malicious individual

This WOMAN, not girl, has open cases in Ventura County. 1 DUI, drunk and disorderly conduct and 2 driving with a suspended license but she was out on bail allowed to roam the streets. Usually when you're out on bail you're not allowed to travel outside of your state. Why wasn't she locked up? Why was she on the east coast? I do not feel sorry for her. She attacked a 14 year old kid! I don't care how tall he is. Whether he's 14 years old or not she had no right to attack and tackle another person. That boy is traumatized by her actions. Oh and whatever the father did he had a right to do to protect his son from that woman. His son is the victim not her.

@AllGuts NoGlory Nope! She should go to jail! Had she been a black 22 yr old that attacked a 14 yr old white kid - she would've been arrested right away! And I highly doubt that the hotel Manager would've let a black non patron accost actual white patrons! 😒

Exactly! Even a black person assuming another black person stole from them based on race is wrong.

I doubt she considers herself a Woman of Color.

@Alondra S Yup! No one like to talk about the racism in other POC communities. Funnily enough, most of my own personal experiences of blatant racism (I.e. using racial slurs etc) have been from other non black POC (east and south asians and latinx).

True

She is white passing especially with that starbucks and entitlement

Maturity wise, she might be right.

an actual pervasive racist view (and sadly looked over a lot, this wording) black children are deemed “adults” way earlier than white kids, justifying institutional racism in law and sexualising/villifying kids, so sickening 😟 🤮

Exactly, and I am woman. I am well aware that females are typically the victim, but this is one of those cases where if you reversed the roles, a 22 year old man tackling a 14 year old girl...people would be clamoring to put him away. The victim was a kid who acted like a kid, his defender was a parent who acted like a parent, the assailant was a grown woman who acted like a violent child, and my gut instinct is telling me that if this had been a white kid things would have been different and no one would know about this story.

She wants to paint herself as a nice girl, but the actual kid is a menacing man.

Literally the least subtle try at subliminal messaging.

Exactly! That's why the title Soho Karen fits!

Right?! That got me too. I wouldn’t attack anyway but ESPECIALLY not in front of the parents.

There is footage, I believe on TMZ, of her fighting and talking back to cops that are trying to arrest her, while her mom screams.

and to feel that he shouldn't defend his child the nerve!

On top of that, let's not forget that she was travelling from one covid hotspot to another in the thick of a pandemic.

@Matty Ice all lives matter.

No. She’s an oppressed PoC. She’s a victim.

@Matty Ice no lives matter

I agree!

I wish that was true for everyone but it’s not….just certain narratives are being pushed these days by the media.

literally just told this interviewer that’s trying to help you “enough”...?

@@saggguy7 In my opinion, Gale only ever wanted to help herself!... certainly not to help Mia. Sadly, Dr Todd Grande apparently is also not inclined to think in helpful ways, although it should be his vocation in his job : to help emotionally disregulated people like Mia, by advocating sensible, balanced approach to them, therapy, not jailing! It is not a pedagogical ‘merciful’ solution -as dr Grande portrays it. Hi hi

I agree

You see what happened to R. Kelly after talking crazy to Gayle.

@@bogumilakitowska-marszalek789 Gayle gave her a huge platform to tell her side of the story and defend herself and just continued to make herself look like an entitled bitch. That’s on her and no one else.

But it denigrates all women who bear the name Karen. Whether the offender's name is Maya and not Karen in the first place.

Exactly....

Anyone can be racist. No matter what ethnic group.

She a white Puerto Rican lol ppl act like there not different races in Puerto Rico

Ask them if they are Mexican and this will prove your point.

As a New Yorker, I've always thought most Puerto Ricans (half of the Latinos here are Ricans) are racist as shit. Especially the white ones.

She's a microcosm of how Americans act now. Like the need to be right just overrides all evidence and logic.

Omg wth , I would’ve slapped her . Ugh she definitely needs to get beat up in jail

Her brain seems to have been stolen, it's reasonable to assume someone would be frustrated at this issue not being investigated.

Aaron Americans? I resemble your snide remark . 🖕🏻

Gigi Vlogs No,she doesn't.

I think 14 is an adolescent.

@@FB-cx4sp which is legally a child, no?

@@FB-cx4sp yeah....an adolescent is indeed a child.

@@FB-cx4sp What was the point of mentioning that?🤔🤨 I'm willing to bet a $1 that this was your way of minimizing what she did! That's the very mentality that enables racists! 😒

Yes

That will be the title of her 'Memoir'.....

How ironic her claiming she can't be racist because she is a person of colour... implying that only white people can he racist... which is a racist statement.

By viewing the video, she is immature, bat sh@t crazy, substance abuser and probably has a sense of entitlement

Her mother is the same apparently. Imagine getting arrested with your mother because you're both drunk and causing a scene.

youre wrong... shes actually white

For her to talk to Gayle King, a woman old enough to be her mother and who was giving her a platform with such disrespect says a lot about her.

@@Richard-lh3te It says shes a narcissist. but not racist homie...

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LMAO! Good one!

Duly noted and done!! Best comment EVER.🤣🤣🤣

Love this comment. I’m sure no one had “I’m a super sweet person” as a choice.

@@RealSigmaQueen Yup ... thing is, that's not the kind of thing one gets to say of oneself, too, right? Maybe someone can say that of you, but you're not the judge! :D

Right, I have to give the father credit for staying relatively calm. I doubt I'd be able to do it.

@@LDiamondz huh... She should be extremely glad it wasn't his Mother with him🙈

@@Lunadish I know. She'd have knocked some sense into her, the hard way!

@@Lunadish Facts.

She's lucky the mom wasn't there 😂My guess is that men feel a need to be more restrained when protecting their kids from women: mothers have no such qualms.

Bahaha! 🙏🏾😂

She may indeed be a racist - but here's the thing: Narcissists - generally aren't necessarily racist, even though they'll use racist terms. When they're in "combat" - their goal is to hurt. So they'll pick through a list of insults in their heads, and try them out, one by one. They study the victim's reaction. When an insult hits - they'll repeat it. Racist terms will be used on minorities just because obviously - they hurt. Bad. But make no mistake - they're that cruel to everyone. I say this - because I hope this gives "armor" against their taunts. One you realize that a narcissist (Aka a Karen,) is merely choosing the worst insults they can think of off the top of their heads: It doesn't really hurt. In fact their ridiculous insults can start to be something you can laugh at. This is the way I've had to deal with narcs. I became immune to their taunts.

@@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking she's not ray-sis, U people throw that word around to freely without definitive proof, so hold up if the boy were any other color would it be still ray-sis ?

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@Louis Kingsta wrong, she frisked another person before him and the media didn't mention his color, exactly how U know he wasn't black or they'd race bait it as they always do

I usually laugh out loud, several times, during his videos. 😂

The doc said “I’m going to assume she doesn’t have a future on a debate team.” He drops little nuggets of gold lol

what kind of doctor is he?

@@linkingwithnaz1295 Psychiatrist I believe

I'm always laughing at the dry ass delivery of hilarious phrases.

NOT RATIONAL.

@@geekdivaherself not sane. I’d have to imagine walking around in a trench coat like a flasher in order to carry a wide enough variety of phone cases to accomplish what she thought happened

oh, she definitely has a personality disorder

Hmmmmmm strange

Maybe she has multiple ethnicities, & brings whichever to the forefront when it's convenient for her! 😐

She a white Puerto Rican . Just like there black Puerto Rican . Puerto Rican is not a damn race

@Mary Howard To Mary Howard Dangerous‼️

@@mizzpoetrics Or, maybe she has multiple personalities, each of which has a different ethnicity. Lol

The trickery of wordplay and misdirection at it's best. I'm sure her lawyer was behind everything she said. Anytime she spoke freely,, she was showing her real nature. Anytime she attempted to display any regret it was scripted and recited terribly. You can tell she was frustrated just trying to say she didn't mean no harm smh. Pretty much said to hell with it when failed and threw in the 2021 peace nonsense at the end. She thought it sounded good although that delivery was pathetic

yep playing the young innocent female card

The youngsters got used to having their way in everything from early childhood. You have a toddler, you absolutely have to put down some boundaries already from that young age. You've got to teach your kids how to be a human being, and start early! My beliefe is as follows: It is unhealthy for a child to never see his/her parents angry. I don't say you should beat your child, or punish them too hard, but they should get to see you get mad sometimes, when they do something wrong. It's not a bad thing. It teaches them that some kinds of behaviour is not to be accepted.

I bet 80% of people don’t have a clue. Women are physically attacking people, kids are disrespecting their teachers, masks have their own participation problems…it goes on and on. My dad told me bf I started school 55 yrs ago..never put your hands on another person , but if someone hits you, try your best to knock them out.

No father to teach boundaries, generation raised by mother

I'm puertorican, born and raised in the island. I can tell you that puertorricans are some of the most racist people out there. That was an excuse. The island is riddled with racism.

And women can be misogynistic, that's actually extremely common

Especially because she’s a white Puerto Rican. She appears to have a lot of European ancestry. She most definitely can be racist I agree.

We call it Tribalism over here.

@@Mia199603 more so than most know, even the women guilty of it.

It's possible the lawyer deliberately allowed her client to eviscerate herself publicly. Maybe she wants her to be punished for her behavior.

The lawyer was trying to get her to stop talking and not say what she was saying by whispering in her ear. And she was not following her lawyer's advice by wearing the hat that said Daddy on it.

@@dlbstl -- Doesn't mean the lawyer didn't decide to let her do herself in. If she did have that intention, the lawyer would still need to play her role or worry about being disbarred or penalized.

I’ve got a feeling the client may have insisted on going on tv. One interview and the lawyer cancelled the other interviews. So I don’t think the lawyer was trying to harm her client.

That "girl" does what she wants. The lawyer HAD to have known it was terrible idea, if she'd at least spoken to her for 5min before or since taking her as a client. I think Miya lined all the interviews up for exposure, as she is listed her occupation as "actress/model" on some internet pages. I think Miya was also such a narcissist that she assumed any audience would view her sympathetically. I mean, she's obviously the victim here, guys. Her lawyer probably insisted on being there to try to mitigate her client's potential tumble down the hole. Her lawyer could not have known that Miya talks to EVERYONE like that, even Oprah's best friend.

I loved the way she began to babble incoherently when she couldn't come up with more excuses. And the ultimate lack of respect, when she shushed Gayle like she were a dog.

lol he got jokes

I know, right!? 😂😂

His dry, serious humor is on 1000 with a mix of 99 hilarity, 1 cold bloodedness, and 900 unaccounted for truth behind every joke.

@@1z2x3c45b 😂😂

@@1z2x3c45b 😄👍

came here for this comment. I laughed so hard my drink came out my nose

I think the jumpsuit would do better and be a much louder statement

or Karen

Yup...or guilty

@@toxicstarcandy qaqqqaqqqaqq

MAGA hat would be perfect

Love the pattern! 👌🏾

I see a pattern here too... It’s kind of a brick wall type effect in the background.

@@lennybogart brilliant

I see a pattern already developed!

Training? She's a fully realized "Karen".

She is a self actualized Karen. 😆😂🤣🤭🤭🤪

In training? She is a worse than a Karen. I’d take a karen any day of this thing.

Yeah and she's not even why

Lol😂👍🏽

That was so funny

*She's looking for a sugar daddy, hence the hat* 😒

I never thought of it like that. Good observation!

@@Griselda_Puppy lol

Yess

I would add, "I am just speculating" people will run away from you🤣🤣

I'd buy that, in a heart beat.

I would so buy that!

Does "I'm not diagnosing anybody" - come in Mugs and blanket throws? I do so much want a framed cross-stich!

She obviously doesn’t take the advice from people with her best interest in mind.

To Wild Opal 😉👍🏼

Poncetto is using the fact that she is hispanic as a reason for her not attacking the kid based on his race. She's saying she's incapable of being racist.

@@pamelapeters3342 Which is a BS argument because Hispanic isn't a race, but rather an ethnic group based on linguistics. One can be a White Hispanic(ancestors are from Spain and didn't procreate much or at all with the Indigenous population or the descendants of the black slaves who were brought to some parts of Latin America), or a Black Hispanic, or an Indigenous Hispanic, or a mestizo Hispanic(mixed race).

“I keep hearing she’s Puerto Rican”. That’s because the media for some strange reason kept referring to her as White.

Yeah, US nationality 🤦

Same! I never attacked anyone let alone a damn child ! She is taking no accountability and it’s crazy to me.

@@7crunch Agreed! I have had anxiety attacks, depression, PTSD, and rage attacks. But I never hurt anybody no matter how bad I was feeling bec deep down I don't want to hurt anybody.

I have, many times, its called borderline personality. Although its not really crippling anxiety because I project it outwards onto others before it gets to me. :) Don't worry, I swore off relationships.

Hopefully by now she's progressed and evolved. At the time of this interview, she was minimizing her actions, didn't take seriously enough/take responsibility for the assault part which traumatized a young teenager and didn't realize/ acknowledge her probable racial bias which adds pain for the victim and his family. For full analysis, I think a couple of things need to be taken into consideration (not to excuse her behavior of course, just to enlighten): EVERYONE, PostCovid, has a certain amount of PTSD : life as we all know it ended (some suffered disastrous consequences), everyone's mental health is stressed to the max not just from perpetual fear/anxiety but also bc our ability to socialize/connect to our neighbor has been ended and our sense of reality and connection to the world is even more dependent on our phones. The media doesn't cover this topic enough, not seeing people's smiles amid maskville, not being able to touch hug be nearer people, learning to distrust you neighbor, is more devastating than we realize. The potential to freak out over losing a phone is much higher postCovid. People with PTSD have big reactions to small things, and if she possibly were under the influence as well, add that to the mix as well. So it's not just "oh anxiety doesn't cause assault" like this doctor glibly said, which was such an obvious point, why even say that. Kind of disappointed an expert would miss commenting on this more comprehensively, he's the expert, and he's supposed to take this gravely and not make snide jokes. She's going to need to atone for and learn from those actions, but she's still a young person and he's a doctor. That last comment too, she's not a TERROR

Actually, that is just what Jodi Arias' attorney argued. It may not engender much sympathy though, when you, yourself, create the chaos that results in your own `trauma'.

Chris Watts doing it NOW- while his parents try and collect life insurance money off his murder victims :/

To be fair, most murderers or prisoners in general have mental health issues. The truth is that we would probably have a lot less murderers in society if mental health issues were being treated properly..

@@nicoleowens2318 It depends. If we argue that everyone who’s ever killed has some degree of mental deformity, no one would be found fit to stand trial, not to mention people who had an obligation or the necessity to take a life (as part of their job). I think it’s more complicated to distinguish than saying that everyone who landed in prison or jail had some kind of mental illness. Insurance fraud, DUI-s, a miscalculated burglary that turned into a home invasion, and other charges like these could land someone in prison for years if not for life, yet I don’t believe that the cause of their actions were their mental problems.

@@steve_the_first I hear ya. I would argue, would people be acting criminally or recklessly if they weren't mentally ill in some way? Poverty causes mental illness, that's something social scientists understand pretty well. Lack of parental guidance, growing up in dangerous neighborhoods, food insecurity, these all affect mental health too. Those that drink too much or do drugs, have sexual disorder, the list goes on. I'm not saying there should be no one that is accountable, all I'm saying is that prisons are run for private profit and that incentivises a lot of the arrests in the first place, as the prison lobbyists pay off justices and police departments to fill their prisons. I'm saying if we put money instead into mental health help and rehabilitation, instead of throwing everyone (especially nonviolent offenders) in prison, there would be much less recidivism or criminality leaking back onto the streets. A nonviolent offender will likely only become more criminal after incarceration, which is the opposite of what we want. There should only be room for the violent in prisons, and even then I think it needs to be treated differently. A lot of people seek punishment when intervention and rehabilitation are possible for many people. You can see it in some European countries, the better they treat them the more likely they are to do things differently later. A lot of these prisoners have been abused or had no guidance all of their lives, they are essentially, mentally, messed up kids. They have often never had compassion a day in their lives, and that leads to changes in the brain that sets these people apart, also something science can prove. We wouldn't expect a feral cat to act like one raised in a home, right? If you haven't seen the level of abuse and neglect in inner cities or don't study psych that might sound ridiculous to you, but it's true. Touch and eye contact are crucial for babies, attention and validation are really important to children. Do all people without these things murder? Of course not. But neither do all people outside of prison respond the same. It's a complicated mix of brain chemistry and nurturing. Some might become abusive themselves, some might become the abused, but no one really comes out unharmed. I just wish we would take this into consideration as much as profits of prisons when making legislation that deals with crime. I could understand if there was no evidence elsewhere that more humane prisons have more beneficial outcomes, but there is proof that many can be reformed, even violent ones. Instead in America we let greed and corruption rule 😕