My guy. You keep talking about Jordan being a mid tier 3 point shooter but you’re not keeping in mind Jordan’s greatest strength was his mind. He willed all his weaknesses into strengths. He 100% would’ve gotten closer to Steph’s status over one off season because that’s just what he did.
MJ is 6'6, 7ft wingspan, estimated 4.38 40yrd dash, and a 48 inch vert.... add on to that, he averaged 38 min a game. The average size of a guard in todays nba is roughly 6'3-6'5.... Jordan would FUCKING eat these boys alive. The vast majority of them cant play def and those that can, cant shoot. Only a few that can do both and none are on MJs level. Who is stopping him from driving and just dunking? MJ may "only" be 215, but everyone who played him said he was deceptively strong and cat quick. There are highlights of him out muscling bigs in his era. You can go look. LEGIT 7 footers and power forwards. MJ easily averages 40-45.
The level of denial of your feedback is soo obvious lol...youre hearing actual players that played against him. Take into account that he led the league in scoring 10 times WITHOUT the 3pointer being a weapon. He could score 60 without attempting a 3 for petes sake
Mj was the greatest midrange shooter of all time. His form was flawless. No reason to think he wouldn't be at least a average 3 pt shooter. He was a average 3 pt shooter back in the day and said himself he chose not work on that because it would take away from his game.
Think about this: Jordan was a mid 3-point shooter by today's standards, because he didn't HAVE to learn the 3-ball. In his comeback 94 season, he shot 50% on the few attempts he did make, and 95-96 Jordan, the juggernaut season, he shot almost 43%. Now imagine putting him in today's game, with him knowing that he needed to be a 3-ball shooter.
After shooting 5 3's in a row and blowing the trailblazers in that finals game, He said in the interview that he doesn't like to shoot 3's. It takes away from everything else from his offense. He does not like camping in the corner waiting for the ball. You also have to remember shooting a 2 and then a foul is worth a lot more than just shooting 3's. You weaken the defense if you stack up the fouls and it makes everything easier. One more point- Jordan highest scoring avg was 37. He shot less than 1 thee-pointer a game. He doesn't need the 3 to get a shit load of buckets. Jordan never shot the 3's in the early part of his career because no-one was doing it in the league at that time. After he came back from his retirement, Jordan shot 40% during the '96 season.
Charles Oakley would make LeBron cry. Karl Malone was that big. Oh, and 48 inch vertical and speed that LeBron doesn't have. LeBron is slow and getting embarrassed by MJ..
If you never seen Jordan play apart from some highlight reels then you don't get an oppionion on the GOAT since the "AT" I that stands for ALL TIME but you never seen that, you get to have an opinion on who's the greatest in YOUR TIME and thats it.
That’s not how that works. And the same people that say this be the same ones who trash wilt and bulls Russell’s era and know nothing about it. Same with the people who stopped watching bball a decade ago and don’t know anything about the new game and can’t break it down to save their lives. Yes u should take the time to watch any era u have an opinion about. But let’s not be hypocritical.
@TheIcemanthomas you call it a "new game" and still pretend like a "GOAT" debate can even take place! How can you even compare two players of what you describe as different games. I dont like to take part in the whole GOAT debate in any sport. I can say that in my lifetime of watching bball MJ is the greatest I have ever seen. No one can have any opinion on a "GOAT" with hypocrisy.
I think it's cute when someone says "i never watched Jordan play, but he wouldn't be averaging 40". And for his 3 ball, Jordan averaged 43% 1 season and his career is 33%.
All this young guys alway focus of MJ not been a 3 point shooting in today Era and do not know that back then the 3 points was not necesary unless you have too. MJ adapt with the Wisazards and did it but this JayHemmsSports did not see what he did at Age 38 and 40 braking record of the NBA.
in the 90's lebron would have to play a different game no doubt he would be good, you had men like charles barkley karl malone charles oakley hakeem olojuwon a quick 7ft er Larry Legen bird the list goes on trust me it wouldnt be that easy for lebron, today is more athletics running and gunning but all nba athletes are talented doesnt mean one generation more talented than the other, in other words MJ would have more success today then lebron in the 90's Guarantee it
Dude, you’re hilarious! You disqualified yourself when you said that you never watched him play! lol Go watch actual games. Dude averaged 37.1 against defenses that were actually committed to defense. You mentioned a couple of good defenders in the league now. How many players are actually committed to playing defense? He wasn’t that good of a 3-point shooter? He has, basically, the same career 3-pt percentage as LeBron and Kobe! Therefore, by virtue of shooting percentages, if he wasn’t a good 3-point shooter neither was Kobe (and, neither is LeBron). Who/what is stopping LeBron in the 90s? Load management and the free throw line would be locking up LeBron! Oh, and so would Jason Terry and Deshawn Stephenson. 😂 And, didn’t Jamal Murray lock him up on a game-winning drive to close out the Lakers in a sweep in round 1 last year? Come on, man. You act like we don’t remember! And… Today’s players are more athletic!?! I’m going to assume that if you didn’t see Jordan play you also didn’t see other players from the 80s and 90s play. So, let me school you. There are no players at a given position in today’s game that are more athletic than the following players that Jordan beat: - Hakeem Olajuwon and a young Shaq at center and it’s not close. - Dominique Wilkins at the SF (throw in Vince Carter while you’re at it) - Shawn Kemp at the PF (with the exception of Giannis) - Allen Iverson at either the PG or SG (except Ja Morant and Anthony Edwards) More skilled? Why does LeBron shoot 73% from the free throw line? And, with the exception of Steph no one is a better shooter than Larry Bird. While I am at it, which of today’s players is a better passer than Magic or Bird? As for longer defenders now, Dominique, Grant Hill, Penny, and Clyde were taller and longer than MJ. And, that’s before we get to the real 7-footers that were allowed to camp out in the lane and hit him. And, by real 7-footers I mean Ewing, Hakeem, Alonzo, and Mutombo, etc. Go watch some actual games. Do some basic research! Then, come on back… And, before any mentions about era bias, I would actually take Steph over Magic. 😇
Imagine mike playing on some of those squads harden had with nothing but shooters and him running the show playing one on one every play. That’s essentially how they played in the 90s already but they had far less spacing to work with and worse role players. Now u give him 10xs more space to work with and an even friendlier whistle? Sheeessh!!
The average height in in the NBA has stayed close to the same for 50 years, literally. Also, how can there be better defenders now in a league where you can't defend? How do you even recognise a great defender anymore when it's all built for the attack.
The eye test made mj the goat. That dude never gave up ever. His offensive and defensive skills seperated him from the rest ,not to mention that killer instinct. I dont see that in this era. He was the most complete player ever.🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
I love the delusion the basketball players today ain't more skilled there's not enough defense and the way it sounds is you don't really know basketball today's NBA kind of sucks because of all the rule changes
1987 his average was 37 in a highly physical era. His playoff average is 33. So in an era where the 3pt range is shorter and the physicality is less, MJ would easily dominate more.
Lebron if he wound it been in the 90's and can not do free thows would it been the lough of all time just like he is in today's Era. The best player is suppost to lear that even my self can do better been Spanic in the court practiciong. There is something wrong with you.
Bro, with all due respect, you cannot speak on MJ basketball prowess when you admittedly didn’t see MJ play. From listening to your understanding or lack thereof concerning basketball, you shouldn't speak on the NBA unless it's the era you watched. You can honestly tell you can't objectively judge players because your bias is too obvious. Nevertheless, anyone who witnessed MJ play in real time, will clearly see and know he would dominate this era more than the era he already dominated in his own NBA career.
Bro just said their are better defenders today 😅😅 We know you are trying to make Le Bron look better but stop being delusional..... Kobe wasn't as big as Le Bron but in one on one situation he locked him. KD said that MJ would fit in as the best player in the league today. I guess LBJ is not in this league, maybe he is retired.
in every sport the bar is raised and a new level is unlocked. jordan would have figured it out easily and would turn up on top again. he turned the whole world into basketball fans and started a new era. what made you think he couldn't do that now?
Bro In 92’ the Blazers strategy was to take away the mid range and ability to get to the basket. They basically sagged off of Mike and to dared him to shoot 3’s. He hit 6, 3’s in the first half. An NBA finals record that stood for 18 years. He had 0 weaknesses. As a matter of fact, he excelled at every single aspect of the game. To your credit, we probably wouldn’t believe the stories about him either, if we didn’t witness it. He’s simply the greatest.
I believe LeBron couldn't play back in the eighties or nineties because for one we had big men that weighed as much and was just as big and LeBron does not skilled enough he has two moves suck and terrible How do you know that Players today are stronger and faster You can't compare when you don't know I grew up watching 80s and 90s basketball today's era doesn't have the skill I just don't see it they're like LeBron they're all crybabies
KD said Jordan would be the best player today..Its always good for a fan knowing better than players..Jordan was great Offensive player and Defensive player..Jordan would shoot 3's n make them..
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And when Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell played it was only 10 teams in the league and it was a lot easier to win championships and there was no one to contest wilt because of his size and he would just dunk the ball every time, but if you're like most of these generation x and z that don't know basketball how it was originally played and the difficulty back then Jordan would make posters out of everyone
Dude… KD didn’t say todays players had greater length and neither did he talked about the physicality of todays defenders … he was talking about MJ yo… he had the highest vertical of all time at 48 and you are kidding yourself if you think MJ won’t be destroying the league especially with the spacing of todays game, no handcheck and also he will be taking a lot of free throws …
These are some of the best players of all time who have played Michael Jordan and a few who have played in the Lebron era. Yet you ignore the wisdom and firsthand experience they are offering. You either have a beef of some sort with Jordan and are not being objective or you really don't understand the fundamental aspects about the game of basketball. I've been an NBA fan since the mid 1970's and coached youth basketball for years. I am Michael Jordan’s age and have seen all of the greats since the 1970’s. 2 of my 3 sons played competitive basketball through high school here in North Carolina. My middle son even attended camps with Stephon Curry that his dad, Dell Curry, sponsored here in the Charlotte area. Michael Jordan is definitely the GOAT. In reality, he could average pretty much whatever he wanted in today's game. But, given that he is a team player and that's what it takes to win games, I think he would average around 45. I’ve seen everyone over the last 45+ years. IMO, Michael Jordan has the best BALANCE of FG%, FT%, clutch play, great offense, great defense, makes teammates better, great team play, shares the ball, passing ability, finishing, coachable, high basketball IQ, finds a way to win, has all areas of the basic fundamentals down pat, seeks high % shots FIRST, knows where teammates are on the court at all times, able to score while being fouled, played against tougher competition, played against great defenses. No one today has ALL of these attributes. Lebron flops, gives up on defense (a huge negative), and has choked in too many key games. He couldn’t even get the Lakers to the playoffs in 2022, which was one of the weakest NBA seasons ever. This past season proved again that he can't win when it counts the most. All of these negatives are glaring and bring down his value. Consistently winning the close games is what separates icon players from everyone else. Though today's players have a lot of talent, most players lack most of these attributes and no one has all of them. Defense and team play are almost nonexistent today compared to the 80’s/90’s. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson (by far) are the most clutch players of all time, did it against the best defenses of all time, and did it during the most talent rich era of all time (80’s/90’s). Jordan had 2 threepeats and 6 championships in 8 years, again, during the NBA's Golden Era. There is more athleticism today overall, but the overall talent level was much better then, trust me. I will take fundamentals/teamwork over athleticism any day. That will be what wins the most games. Today’s game is extremely sloppy and there’s very little defense. I’ve seen every era from the 1970’s until today. Because of the addiction to three pointers, lack of teamwork, and lack of defense the game of basketball is not nearly as exciting and interesting. It seems that many young people who do not understand the fundamental attributes of the game and haven’t seen players pre -2000 play night in and night out are the ones who claim that Lebron is the best. Older people who have seen decades of the best players and can see Lebrons weaknesses. This past season proved why Lebron is not only not the GOAT, he’s not even top 5.
Individual perimeter defenders are longer and more athletic than in the 80s and 90s but team defenses are much, much worse than they were when Jordan played. In Jordan's era, the spacing was not good. Defenses played with double posts and had 3-4 guys in the lane at all times. Now, with the pace and space, the defenders are on an island. It is a lot harder to help at the rim. I don't think anyone will average 50 but Mike would average 40-45. He averaged 37.1 in an era with worse spacing. You had a good point, though. If he is on a good team, where he trusts his teammates, he won't average 40. Winning is more important to him than that.
Michael already averaged 35 points whenever the defense was way harder with more physical contact........ most shots today is like a watered-down version of its original Self where everybody's just shooting from three points and most shots aren't even contested....... Michael would average 50 without a doubt
Bruh it’s funny cause you don’t know how good MJ was. His skill level was insane and he was probably the best defender in the league. He would average 45 easy
Oh my God this guy is just another LeBron groupie that don't know what he's talking about LeBron's been in twice as long as Jordan was and he's not even halfway of his accomplishments
Hi ! Your delusions are fun to watch to me. Jordan career % 3pts 32.7% 96/97 3pts attempts 297 for 37.4% 95/96 3PA 260 for 42.7% 89/90 3PA 245 for 37.6% 92/93 3PA 230 for 35.2% 97/98 3PA 126 for 23.8% 91/92 3PA 100 for 27% Do you see and understand something ? The more he throws three the more accurate he is. It's not perfect and it's not Steph But it proves that yes Mike could shot three and not only buzzer beater. Now one time I estimate roughly that Mike would score 37ppg. He scored more than a third of his team's point 37x3=111 a game nowadays average that. I also use what they said in this vidéo, more three, more possession, more freethrow, scoring title and so one. And I found the same number but it's pretty conservative, in fact it's not the average but more the minimum average or something between. It is the more reasonable takes Instead of 7 season over 30 points something like 7 over 35 points Best season instead of 37 probably 47. For gode sake the bad boys beat this guy four years in a row and he still make his 30+ now you can't touch him, you're giving a tiger some wings. When rodman says fifty I had to rethink, rodman is a pistons first The correct answer more than james harden, what he want to score. Me, what he need to score to win, I dont think 50 ppg it's necessary so if 37 is the average or the minimum 42 it's an easy average if he wanted too. Don't forget that people like bird or jordan could have score more if they wanted too. The people who talk know basket better than me, I'm not sayin they are right, i'm saying there must be a reason Even steeve nash said that if at this time they let him shoot three like curry he would have score more but it was a different era. And it's no cap his percentage is better than stef, he said sometimes he had a clear view but he didn't shoot , different era
