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Modal SKULPT SE // vs MicroKORG and OB-6 // How Virtual Analogs massively improved 

Starsky Carr
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Virtual Analog synths seem to be taking a few knocks here and there at the moment. But something as small and great value as this is well placed to show the detractors quite how well we've come on in the past few years.
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0:00 intro
2:15 old VA vs modern VA
6:28 SKULPT vs OB-6
11:10 Some Sounds

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Комментарии : 78   
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
More on the Modal Skulpt's SECRET WEAPONS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PD2NS3Y5SYg.html
@aptudo
@aptudo 3 года назад
Your Skulpt patches sound fantastic. This is the second time you've inspired me to take a second look at a synth I had no interest in originally. I bought the Uno Synth after I heard you have a play with it and I've had a great time with it (my only mono synth and only analog). Cheers!
@okinawa1312
@okinawa1312 2 года назад
These David against Goliath comparisons are really great. I believe that they are very useful for a lot of People. THX
@chicken_flavoured_bacon3230
@chicken_flavoured_bacon3230 3 года назад
nice demonstration there, that it's not so much which synth you're using, it's knowing how to use them.. as always excellent content.
@JorbLovesGear
@JorbLovesGear 3 года назад
Love the nord lead call out, I've been using the lead 2 for my example of virtual analog has always been good. Great topic!
@galifettetv1238
@galifettetv1238 2 года назад
Do you love gear?
@leftmono1016
@leftmono1016 3 года назад
Ring mod, distortion and spread are all really nice on the Skulpt. Tempted to get a 2nd for 8 note poly. Truly amazing sounds for the money 😀
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
I’ve got another video coming featuring its ‘SECRET WEAPONS’ … spread, ring mod and FM. :)
@leftmono1016
@leftmono1016 3 года назад
@@StarskyCarr - nice, that’s going to help sell a few more Skulpts!
@andersbostrom3745
@andersbostrom3745 3 года назад
Thank you! I'm getting the Skulpt SE for the windcontroller. I like the open modulation matrix.
@KordTaylor
@KordTaylor 3 года назад
Another great video. Thank you! Of course now we all need this basic test result for every VA synth.😂
@dundeedolphin
@dundeedolphin 3 года назад
Nice vid man.
@Ze_Silva
@Ze_Silva 3 года назад
another very interesting comparison! if you can get your hands on one, the micromonsta 2 also looks to be a great option
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 2 года назад
I'd love to see how Yamaha's AN1 stands up to this comparison...
@krsTBedfordStudios
@krsTBedfordStudios 3 года назад
I've always loved the sound of the skulpt but it desperately needed this make over! It's crazy to see the comparisons here, thanks for this video mate 👍👌👏 *Puts MicroKorg back in box*
@fincorrigan7139
@fincorrigan7139 3 года назад
In preparation for eBay 😎🤣👍
@krsTBedfordStudios
@krsTBedfordStudios 3 года назад
@@fincorrigan7139 rumbled...!!! Lol I haven't touched it in at least a year, but it's something I can't ever imagine selling...! There's no point, they're not worth anything... 😉🤣🤣
@jppagetoo
@jppagetoo 3 года назад
VA has come a long ways. I think the Hydrasynth is prime example of how good VA is now.
@geofff6671
@geofff6671 3 года назад
Hydrasynth is a wavetable, which includes VA but a lot more waves as well. Perhaps we should be distinguishing between digital and analogue with digital including different kinds of digital such as VA, FM and wavetable.
@We.Are.Lockhart
@We.Are.Lockhart 2 года назад
I would love to see a comparison of the "vintage" Yamaha AN1x (or the PLG-150AN board) with a modern VA and an analogue synth. These Yamahas have been my absolute favourite VA's over the last two decades (in terms of sound).
@Emily_M81
@Emily_M81 2 года назад
I can't unhear the MicroKorg now lol... FYI the OG SKULPT has black and then Archer-esque slightly more darker black keys (a very dark grey for the white keys). Thanks for such an in-depth co! I'm considering picking up an SE to add four more voices to my ($300 lol...) OG.
@odiroot
@odiroot 3 года назад
Great video. Incredible what this small synth can do. Have you tried getting some more vintage/retro sounds out of it?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
vintage and retro tend to be very simple sounds - as that's what the classics can do in general - and definitely all most of the performers could program back in the day ;) So yeah, it can do most. Maybe I'll upload some examples.
@nkozi
@nkozi 3 года назад
The fact that the Skulpt can hold it's own against the OB-6 is... sheesh. Maybe I should pick up that Cobalt 8 after all...
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Haha it can hold its own up to a point! I won’t be swapping the OB6 for it, but it’s pretty impressive.
@JimmiG84
@JimmiG84 3 года назад
Modal have quite a bit of experience with making very high-end and expensive digital and hybrid synths. They only recently ventured into the low-end and mid-range segments with Skulpt/Craft and Argon/Cobalt. So yeah, they know what they're doing :)
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
I e not played the Argon but the Cobalt 8 is great. Making the oscillator starting point a ring mod/wave shaped/multi-osc is inspired.
@Synthshop
@Synthshop 3 года назад
I never considered my Skulpt a VA. I looked at it more as a unique hybrid of some sort between digital and VA. And its sounds are reflective of that too. That's its strength. I know what your asking, what's the difference between digital and VA. My definition is digital has elements that are not trying to strictly emulate an analog circuit. I had the impression the Skulpt was designed not as an analog circuit emulator like Roland's ACB or DCB technology is strictly doing.
@martijn7898
@martijn7898 3 года назад
Great demo. One of the few good Skulpt demos that demonstrates the basic building blocks of oscillators and filters, and that it’s a really good VA. It also shows some of the limitations of the Microkorg. I always felt the Microkorg XL was better sounding. I could match it really really close to some analogs, in particular Moogs.
@mack_solo
@mack_solo Год назад
Microkorg XL "should" sound better because it has an evolved, different sound engine, derived from Radias not MS2000 like the vanilla microKorg.
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM 3 года назад
Access Virus is VA too they're amazing synths.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Yeah, just done a Clubbing TV show featuring the virus. I may do something here as well as there’s so much love for it.
@scratchanitch
@scratchanitch 3 года назад
This made me curious so I just checked this on my (1998) Nord Modular G1 - couldn't see any unusual artifacts on the spectrum.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Theres a reason why they're held in such high regard.. and were so expensive. I really wanted one when they originally came out but just couldn't afford one.
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 2 года назад
Virtual analog in a mix, either a typical band mix, or, a synth jamming mix with lots of synths, beat boxes, groove boxes, samplers, has always been just fine. People get confused because of reviews where that one synth is sitting there all alone making all the sound; and that sound has to be gigantic to be impressive, but, that giganticism has to be tamed in a mix with other instruments. That's why I only want digital poly synths and I only want analog mono synths. Digital poly synths offer up to 256 polyphony and no worries of tuning. Analog monosynths tuning issues are not dramatic and we get big sound for those solo's. I have one exception, I will be buying the Korg Minilogue this year to use the polyphony to blend long release envelope single note or two note chords seamlessly together.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 года назад
You're right.. once you start mixing with other instruments and percussion things change. I always had difficult fitting my SE-1 into a mix (minimoog clone) because it swamped all the other instruments - not what was needed in bubbling trance tracks.
@Pak_Industrial
@Pak_Industrial Год назад
Did you get a copyright claim for a Justice track? cause im gonna be honest thats where my mind went when i read that part during the jam session, and even though its bullshit, that certainly is a super nice compliment for the skulpt in a weird sort of way. Man I really need to pull out my skulpt again.
@mauriciomandara5946
@mauriciomandara5946 3 года назад
I like imperfections 🥺
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Good job my wife does!
@stevehunt2125
@stevehunt2125 3 года назад
Nice LFE there ;-)
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Haha 😆
@Synthshop
@Synthshop 3 года назад
To my ears there's still a big difference between analog filters and VA filters, especially when resonance and modulation is applied. Comparing single waveforms most people cant tell the difference anymore. But even modern VA plugins or VA HW still have a long ways to go when you start comparing when modulations are applied to oscillators and filters, mixers, etc. The differences are still quite evident in the whole, overall changing timbre of the sound. Eventually VA will completely replace analog in these ways too unless if the science of hearing is not really or truly understood yet. Some "science" says otherwise and there's a perceptive element to analog (the feel or sense of analog) that digital can never theoretically reproduce. But if we're solely talking about generating electrical waveforms and soundwaves then VA can match real analog technologies without us being able to percieve the microscopic differences due to the non pseudo-randomness from thermal background noise and other minut physical effects such as upon a transistor that no one will ever bother modelling. Personally there's been times I've thought I've experienced this, but as VA gets better and better I'm not so sure anymore. But that's a whole different discussion at any rate.
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM 3 года назад
Try and save a patch on a Mini Moog! LOL Of all the VA's I've owned as well as real analogue synths the Virus was my favorite.
@galifettetv1238
@galifettetv1238 2 года назад
Hi how would you compare the skulpt vs behringer DM12? I ve got borh, it s seems to me that the skulpt is by far more funny, easy to use and crispy. What s your mind?
@andersbostrom3745
@andersbostrom3745 3 года назад
What about aliasing in the upper octaves? How does the Skulpt SE sound higher up the keyboard?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
It sounds fine. I don’t demo really high notes as they tend to sound rubbish in RU-vid and they’re generally never used in most patches or tracks. The big difference is in FM which is why I think it’s implemented slightly differently here.
@andersbostrom3745
@andersbostrom3745 3 года назад
Ok, thank you. I'm getting the Skulpt SE in a few weeks. I play a lot in the upper register on the windcontroller and aliasing can really ruin an otherwise great sound. FM usually have aliasing in the upper register unless you can you use negative keyboard tracking on the modulator amplitude. Looking forward to more synth comparisons on your channel.
@brentc3842
@brentc3842 3 года назад
This is really good. However, I would really like to hear this phenomenon with the microkorg and can't detect it with good headphones and maximum video quality. Is there an uncompressed WAV file posted somewhere? Thanks!
@zodoGames
@zodoGames 2 года назад
I can hear it but it's not much and I don't think it matters that much for most use cases.
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 2 года назад
I can't hear the artifacts BUT I can hear how the MK has a much more nasally sound compared to the other 2...
@tothefinlandstation
@tothefinlandstation 3 года назад
How many people are taking their analog or high-quality modern virtual analog and putting a sample rate reduction plug-in on it and making it sound like the microkorg?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Haha
@Synthshop
@Synthshop 3 года назад
Very true, and btw I still have microkorg for the reason it doesn't sound perfect. It has a sound of its own, and always been inspiring despite how good some of my analogs are.
@TheTyrynir
@TheTyrynir 2 года назад
Hard to do a lot of the things I can do with the MicroKorg with my Minilogue XD. Mostly those nice Metroid Prime sounds.
@Schmarster
@Schmarster 3 года назад
Any chance of sharing your Skulpt patches?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
They’re available via my Patreon page.
@1314Ruben
@1314Ruben 3 года назад
Have you ever tried the arturia microfreak?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
No… I’ve put a couple of bids on eBay but have been pipped at the post every time. Maybe I shouldn’t be so tight 😂
@1314Ruben
@1314Ruben 3 года назад
@@StarskyCarr hahaha I have been looking for It too, do you think its a good first hardware synth? Or you like the skulpt more?
@marcmistermarc
@marcmistermarc 2 года назад
Not that bad - more BMW vs Ford - will get you to your destination.
@AndrewHeathArts
@AndrewHeathArts 3 года назад
Is the Skulpt engine the same as the one that’s used in the Cobalt? Would love a comparison with that…
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
No it’s not as complex, and doesn’t have the same oscillator options. But you can tell they’re from the same family.
@MrOuija-rr8kq
@MrOuija-rr8kq 2 года назад
Idk what track got copyright claimed but I’m assuming it was a Deadmau5 track lol
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 года назад
Haha no… they’re fully paid up licenses! It’s filter sweeps I mainly get claimed!! Oh and the Star Wars theme tune (which is fair enough).
@vforvillain77
@vforvillain77 3 года назад
I don't hear anything uniquely bad or lesser in the microkorg (6 minutes in now), sounds just as good to me, and I used to own both it and the skulpt next to each other. The korg can be a little midrangey but that's it, and it's built in eq works that out fine. 2 great and equal, but different sounding, synths
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
I suppose I was listening on monitors. I don’t know what you’re using but it honestly jumps out at you as being VERY different - in capitals no less!! :) it sounds like somethings grunting underneath the main tone.
@vforvillain77
@vforvillain77 3 года назад
@@StarskyCarr hm, never heard it before. I've used any and everything BUT monitors in the 10 years or so I've messed with microkorgs. But anyway, can't complain, ignorance is bliss 🤷‍♂️
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Haha… once you’ve heard it you can’t unhear it… I only noticed a year or so ago when doing something similar on Patreon tutorials I was actually demoing something else when I noticed it. Best not try if you’ve not heard it yet 😂
@vforvillain77
@vforvillain77 3 года назад
@@StarskyCarr yes I’m definitely not on a mission to spoil my enjoyment of a synth or become perpetually dissatisfied. At best I can hear a bit of a grittier dirtiness to the tone compared to the other 2 synths in this video, but I’ve never noticed it before and I was listening realll close and intentionally looking for differences. if I have to listen that close tho, I’m listening TOO close. No one in the audience cares
@vforvillain77
@vforvillain77 3 года назад
@@aceofdub all the frequencie needed are there. Eq perfectly deals with the midrangey issue it has when put next to the mini and monologue and allow it to hold its own next to them. I’m not trying to fix a muffled sound, just making sure it’s bright enough and round enough to stay in the game and sound good. And the eq does that fine. A simple treble and bass boost is all I’ve ever needed to deaccentuate the mids and turn the instrument from an ear-sore next to its analog counterparts, to an instrument that earns its place in the ensemble 🤷‍♂️
@midnightsocean2689
@midnightsocean2689 3 года назад
In all fairness, the blind analog verses digital bit, is an improper comparison. Good modern virtual analog. Simple waveforms/filter sweeps. Both being heard over the internet, as digitized sound, on youtube. Under those circumstances, very few will hear any difference. Most would require more complex patches and most importantly, hearing the comparison live in person. I totally agree that the Skulpt SE is very impressive. I just ordered one myself. IMO it sounds better than roland's virtual analog stuff. Not sure I would put down the ms-2000. I had one for a bit. A bit wonky sure but I understand why some music artists still have one on their rack. I would be curious if the Skulpt SE would change any of their minds. It sure sounds good.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Yeah the analog vs digital against the OB6 was to show how well this stacks up... and how far modern VAs have come in the past 20 years. I wasn't putting the MS2000/MicroKorg down... I love the thing, but it does have those artefacts that people associate with VAs... which is the really unfair comparison, as it doesn't;t exist in the Skulpt like it does in the original VAs.
@YOUrDEAlerwiThHell
@YOUrDEAlerwiThHell Год назад
the "open them eyes now" didnt worke for me.. watched this whole video with closed eyes... later with open and than just saw the message xD you should say that hahah could nee it with closed eyes ;*
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Год назад
Haha… that was the joke 😃
@YOUrDEAlerwiThHell
@YOUrDEAlerwiThHell Год назад
@@StarskyCarr alright xD damned :,D
@audiolego
@audiolego 3 года назад
Omg I can't hear. And I'm using ear buds. I don't have Golden Ears lol
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 года назад
Haha… it’s really obvious on these monitors. But you can see why it’s such a good little synth. In most applications its simply not important or noticeable.
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