Tyra is confusing. She'll tell Yaya to stop being so proud of her culture and will tell April to embrace her culture more bc that's what they want. She'll tell Camille to tone it down and will tell Mercedes to step it up a notch, attitude/confidence wise. Even here, she says Catie may not be emotionally ready for the dog eat dog modelling world ..and turns around and say Camille is too callous. Make it make sense.
Those judges r pos's whose only job is to make u feel like crap about urself. Disgusting show really, and disgusting people with no morals to be agreeable to this kind of treatment of others. I'm still here though, luvv Jessica!!😁
It's because it's not real!!!! This is nothing to do with modeling. This is a reality TV show. Tyra could give two shits about looking stupid because she getting PAID to create entertainment. Even if it's at the expense of dragging these girls through dirt.
You hit it on the head of why this show does not help anyone. It is only for air time, what the producers want, and shows nothing of what modeling actually is.
@@PHSDM104 Yeah it was problematic of Tyra - it has shades of colourism... suggests/perpetuates a stereotype that dark skinned women with long straight hair all look the same... not to mention taking our your historical trauma on young girls you don't even know that well.
A bigger pet peeve is when people cherry pick events to be offended by. Context and facts suddenly fall by the wayside. Catie was a manipulator. But you'd have to watch the show to know that. Wink wink.
@bulbasaur232 Everyone's life experiences are different. Some may be acting but more times than not, it's a fight or flight response. But I wasn't really talking about the show anyways, was just talking in general.
@@Catstimesinfinity in general, under a video with clips from said show addressing emotions and childishness. Jenascia: "Catie told me she could cry at the drop of a hat". Catie proceeds to cry from her phobia, and THEN immediately throws her "friend" comforting her and holding her hand throughout the ordeal, under the bus. It was very real severe phobia that suddenly was no big deal. Nearly all the girls note how sophomoric Catie was, however in this echo chamber, it never happened because it was not shown in this clip. Information only gets in the way of being offended.
@@LittleMissLion yes facts and reality are not worth your time. Disinformation, make belief and feelings are what are most important to you. Trump agrees with you.
I know someone who knew Camille personally (I went to her college and am close to her age) and they said she was really baffled why they treated her that way and was disgusted that they tried to make her be "sensetive" when that wasn't her personality. Ridiculous
The lack of body autonomy in this show is insanity to me. Models and actors wouldn't be forced to permanently dye or cut their hair for a shoot. A wig would be used. And it would be 100% valid to say no to a shoot you felt uncomfortable with. The show was basically taping Tyra bullying women and breaking their boundaries.
Some modeling contracts requires the model to style or cut their hair according to what the company wants, but no one will force a model to sign if they don't want to. These models probably had to sign a contract similar to this in order to compete on this show.
@@SocietalNoobwas wondering if that was a factor in why the judges were so concerned with stigmatising older contestants, perhaps they were harder to manipulate
@@ewrtw3726 Yeah from what I heard Models have a fair bit of Agency. If the Model is okay with getting her Hair changed, cool. Or Model certain Clothes or even going without Clothes. If the Model doesnt want that, they book another Model. Ofc the Industry is..not good, but the way the Show portraits it is basically the worst aspect imaginable.
The lady who broke her knee clearly doesn't understand the difference between a fear and a phobia. A fear is something that makes you uncomfortable that you can easily overcome. A phobia is not so easily dealt with. Also like empathy is a thing a lot of people on this show could use 👀
@@ladymarmalade4458 Regardless of its Greek root and how that is translated, the English use of "phobia" is significantly different from the use of the English word "fear". There's a reason a phobia is described as "an intense fear", not just "a fear".
Nigel was always super problematic on that show, a lot of his comments really haven't aged well. Same goes for most of the judges when I think about it. They really didn't like Camille due to her not showing enough emotions, in their eyes, but she was there to win, not to show emotions, she was there to be the best model and for the most part she was, but they had to use words like aggressive and have random fights picked with her to get her to react etc etc to get the angry black woman storyline going, which for the most part they failed at as she as far as I recall never gave them that reaction, but they kept pushing for it.
I have never seen anyone think they are fighting for BIPOC inclusivity while doing the complete opposite. Tyra should be ashamed for not backing up her own race. 0 self awareness
IMO the "childprostitute"-comment is one of the most disgusting things they've said on this show (and there's heavy competition). You can see in her reaction that she's shocked too. A comment like this is so loaded that it can actually really mess up someones body-image for the rest of their career.
Watching this show back as an adult, I believe their issue with Camille stemmed from the fact that she didn’t bend for them. I see her as a confident young woman who is comfortable in her own boundaries, which means she’s not easy to manipulate and control. I think that’s where many of the other girls’ issues with Camille came from also. They took her self confidence for arrogance and they themselves were not as emotionally mature as her.
I was thinking the same thing. There must always be an too aggressive black girl, a too white bread white girl, a Latina girl who can't shed around the way accent....
Watching the clips of Camille she was confident, self assured, focused, but also professional and polite. Hearing the judges trying to pretend like she was aggressive I immediately came back to upvote this comment. There was nothing aggressive about her. Also like yeah Nigel, was super rude, and it just reminds me that people in older generations especially equate politeness to being subservient/obedient and quiet, and rudeness to confidence, questioning, or explaining, which is very weird to me. Nothing about calmly explaining what happened and why it was like that is rude or aggressive. You know what was aggressive though, that girl Sara being aggressively lacking in empathy for Catie's phobia of heights, that still doesn't make her aggressive, just her attitude in that context as none of the girls demonstrated outright aggressive behaviors in any of the clips shown here anyways, least of all Camille who was super nice and charming above all in my opinion anyways. Micro-aggression towards her 100%.
They want strong and confident women but also women who are vulnerable. They want women who are pretty but also androgynous. Tyra doesn’t like that she can’t push Camille’s buttons. Bullies don’t react well when the other person isn’t intimidated.
Right? One person can't embody every aesthetic. Different models are hired for different jobs for a reason, individual characteristics work better for individual concepts.
ANTM / Tyra: "Editorial! High Fashion! A future in modeling!" Also ANTM / Tyra: "You're going to be doing a commercial where you catfight over a bag of potato chips."
This show is so so bad with their treatment of darker skinned black women. They ALWAYS give them the “angry black woman” edit without fail. For as much as Tyra claims to want to be empowering for black women she made an incredibly racist show
Catie, now goes by Caiten, is currently one of the successful models in this cycle who still is working. I really do like her and Camille's friendship.
@@marythewinter I think so. Luxeria did a ANTM video on Cycle 2 with the segment, "Where Are They Now?". I can't remember specifically what Catie's IG, but she does have one, I think.
@@devontamosley4487googled her, Catie Anderson, yes she did well, worked for Vogue sometime but quit modelling long time ago now is married and has 2 kids ❤ good for her 🥰
That's awesome! She's still working in the modeling industry and it's definitely been more than 20 years since this aired. Girl must be doing an amazing job to stay in an industry that's obsessed with youth.
I’m sorry but Tyra uses a “blackccent” to be belittling when she wants to and never naturally speaks like that. Sometimes she uses it when shes starts talking about “As a black woman…” and it’s so offensive because sometimes as if it’s defining feature in being black and other times to demean people. Both ways are inappropriate in my opinion, Ive seen it in so many episodes. It rubs me all the ways wrong.
But Tyra IS black, did grow up in Compton, and does sound that way naturally. Her celebrity Tyra-speak is her adopted professional accent that she cultivated for spokes-modeling, tv-presenting, whatever else she has to do professionally in life. She falls out of Tyra-speak when tired, overly emotional, talking to friends, or whenever else she just can't be bothered and reverts to her natural speech patterns just as many of us with strong foreign accents also tend to do. I adopted a very generic-sounding American accent that didn't come naturally which I use outside of my cultural community and home so that the people I meet treat me more like one of them instead of as an ignorant tourist, suspicious outsider, or second-class citizen. If I meet someone else with an accent from a similar part of the world where I came from, my instinct is to drop my faux American accent to make them feel more welcome and comfortable with me. I certainly don't do that to demean anyone. Adopted accents are learned defense-mechanisms. I understand they can rub people the wrong way, but they do come from an outsider's need for self-defense and belonging rather than an insider's urge to cause offense, belittlement, or discomfort to others.
@@thecourtlyalchemist Tyra wasn't from Compton, she had divorced but middle class family, went to private school and by 15 was traveling the world. Please, she doesn't sound like that. Oh and Tyra is black but is lightskin with the privilege.
@@unclesquirrelstache7431 yeah, but Twiggy also had her shitty moments, also of body shaming... she seemed super sweet compared to others but she's not the kindest either...
Rude and aggressive?!? The hatred of black women on this show will never fail to shock me. And Tyra will forever be so wrong for letting this happen over and over again. Not once ever did Naomi Campbell allow this type of behavior towards her black models, she always stood up for them 100% of the time. Just so distasteful from ANTM.
Camille offended and hurt the entire house of models. She lied about one of them having an E.D. so that she would be sent home. She was rude to clients and her peers. The hatred of reality and facts in this echo chamber is unmatched.
Naomi is 4 time convicted felon. 11 assaults across 2 decades. Blood diamonds. Lolita Island flight manifest Epstein survivor to Naomi: YOU SAW ME BE ABUSED.
Also for Nigel to say that about Yoanna's body is even more problematic because she actually lost weight, she used to have a fuller figure before this. So yeah, audacity, unmitigated gall, no couth.
@@Wickedweirdwednesday Did her skin actually have bad texture back then? I remember them saying that, but I can’t tell based on the early 2000s video quality.
@@peppermint1349 and that hate wasn't even warranted in my opinion. It was manufactured by the media. Years later they did a sit down with one another on the Tyra Banks show and all I took away from that is Naomi didn't really do anything. It was really blown up with the media pitting them two against one another.. and Tyra was just beating it over her head. Naomi even apologized for her part in it and Tyra did recognize it was the media mostly but she still was insistent on being the victim in it all.
I think Tyra was trying to break down Camille. During elimination, Camille did not give in and stood her ground, which you can see that it pissed Tyra off to no end! I'm sure Tyra was having flashbacks to Tiffany from cycle 4 and didn't want to lose it again, so you can see her gritting her teeth at Camille's defiance. I think the only reason that Catie went home was because that was their decision beforehand. Catie had been catching on to their little game and they needed to have her exit before she exposed them. She was a bigger threat than Camille at this point.
This was cycle 2, before the Tiffany meltdown - Camille was the 1st og model on the show that reminded Tyra of Naomi which explains why she can’t seem to control herself lol
@@salvadordollyparton7428I suppose we can say that this was the prequel to that blow up! Makes even more sense that she wouldn't let another girl give her the eye-roll
She is aggressive because she is a women who speaks her mind. And when someone is too emotional and in tune with how they feel, it’s too much. When someone is either at peace or they protect themselves from the judges, it’s cold and too little. It’s just a mess of sexism.
The sole purpose of this show was to break women down for entertainment. PERIOD. If theyre confident, break that. If theyre nervous, exacerbate that. If they cant be broken, its bad for business. Its sadistic & sick 🤢🤢🤢 They assumed the audience was as sick as them, but we reeeeally just wanted to learn about the world of modeling & watch an awesome competition. WE were rooting for them - the show itself and the contestants. But I guess they thought that wasnt interesting enough. Perhaps a projection of Tyras insecurities about modeling not being a "serious" or respected career. But we do respect it, even more so after seeing the legitimate aspects of the job.
Pretty sure they cut it differently in ANTM because they couldn't have that product placement in this show. I think they only said half the name of the product; they didn't say "Dorritos".
It makes me so mad to hear someone say someone should shut up about a phobia because they don’t have that same phobia. I have such a bad fear of heights, I’m likely to have a straight up panic attack just getting on top of a full sized van. I know cuz I have done exactly that. It took 2 grown people to try to get me down off the van as I was crying and clinging in fear and panic.
You can’t be aggressive but you should act more bold or innocent, but at the same time can’t be too bland or ‘nice’. Literally nothing they do can be right… the judges are insufferable
I remember on makeovers they were like you are going to have a Twiggy cut I am like yes Twiggy had short hair in the late 60's but not all short haircut are Twiggy cut that was not a Twiggy cut that they gave Catie.
Imagine this show over covid times. Model: I couldn’t sprint fast, for the shoot; I had Covid-19 Tyra: well I had to run a marathon for and I had covids 1 through 19 & no legs! And you know what I did? I smized.
I love this comment section. It's been ages since i got to learn 2 new words in a day. So ...thanks for the very good comment and proving that talking about models and/or tv shows isn't just for the less verbally eloquent people wishing to be smart and pretty ( - which i believe most here are anyway, in at least one way or more). :)
They styled it after The Matrix! Tyra: Camille, the message of my word salad is that you're not idolizing or even showing me proper deference. You may even rival my beauty, which is totally unacceptable. This is a reality show, not a modeling contest. Did we send you to modeling school? No, there was your first hint. We need you to get messy because it's good TV. Got it? Here's your picture. Now go back to that coterie of delusional contestants and reflect on what you haven't done.
I went to the comments to see if anyone clarified the commercial theme. I thought it was kind of adorable that Jessica didn't know the reference, was so confused and the rhetorical questions she kept asking regarding the wardrobe. This season was filmed/released at the peak of "Matrix Fever" a cultural phenomenon that is impossible to convey - you just had to "be there." (Which is also probably why the girls were so excited about the finished product of the commercial.)
It was killing me that she wasn’t getting the concept at all. total generational disconnect hahaha. The Matrix being everywhere in the early 00s permanently influenced my style. When a work friend (drunkenly) revealed that she secretly thought of me as Trinity I could have died of joy.
Okay but they totally do target fears. In Season 5, Episode 1 I think, they are doing a superhero shoot (ANTM loves a superhero shoot lol) and Coryn says “I swear the only thing I said I was afraid of was heights” like they had to report their fears or something.
How has this production not been sued? I haven't watched one of these reactions to this show in a while...but...like...models aren't stunt people. In real life, there are unions and issues with jurisdiction. You CANNNOT just ask an otherwise unqualified model to do something like this in real life! These are SEPARATE professional careers and disciplines! What is this production team smoking? **EDIT: Oh God, that's just the tip of the iceberg...I have regrets watching another one of these...
They have a legal team which draws up an air-tight contract giving the production all rights and whoever signs as a contestant no rights. If you want to be on their reality show, you sign away all your human rights including the right to sleep, right to privacy, right to humane treatment, and the right to sue if you are mistreated or injured. Usually your out is that you can quit anytime you want and give up trying for the cash/prizes. While there, you agree to follow all their rules no matter how stupid or dangerous. Failure to do so is breaking your contract which leaves you open to being sued for everything you've got in life.
I'd love to hear you and Luxeria who's another youtuber who reacts to ANTM discuss your 'theories' and everything. Plus you both have related experience, she's worked as a makeup artist for models in the past so it would be great hearing your two perspectives one as a photographer and the other as a makeup artist.
I LOVE Luxeria! Willie Muse also did a lot of antm reaction videos that are hilarious. He doesn't have expertise in anything model related, he just reacts as a viewer.
It's funny how she talks about not Shedding Tears. But like if you don't cry when you're eliminated, she doesn't think your heart was really in it, and that's not what you really wanted.
So I have a thought as an Xnnial and maybe others will identify. Who thought the judges were just fine back then? Like the way they behaved seemed normal because this was how everyone in positions of power acted. Like even back then I sensed Tyra's anti blackness but everything else the judges seemed okay. Now I re-watched the show last year and it was WILDLY terrible. Just degrading and weird. So wild that in 20 years we can move forward as a society so quickly.
Greetings fellow Xnnial! (God I love it when our sub generation is acknowledged!) Oh it was exactly how everything was then. The message: "This is how the *real* world is toughen up and learn to take abuse, you spoiled children!" was all the rage of the early 00s as the bright optimism of the 90s gave way to utter bitterness.
Same. I watched ANTM from the start and loved it. I didn’t flinch at judges comments etc because it was ‘normal’ on shows like this (thinking of Pop Idol, Xfactor - those kind of shows). I rewatched ANTM a couple of years ago during lockdown and I was horrified. I couldn’t get over how cruel and vicious the judges were. As well as the general treatment of the contestants
I was always confused and could never decide if they were mean or nice 😂 because they would act one way in an ep and another way the next. Looking back now I can 💯 say they are all vile
I don't think it's a generational thing, but times have changed So Much in regards to the fashion/modelling world. It was just taken for granted, and because there were so many women and gay men involved, that it was okay because they would 'look out' for women and protect them, when we know now it wasn't the case. Like, for decades girls as young as 14, 15 would go to live on their own in New York, Paris, etc. and people thought, that's just the way it works. FINALLY, just as your generation was growing up, other generations started looking at it and seeing how problematic it all really was.
I felt this way during lockdown rewatching a lot of ANTM and VH1 dating reality shows, and was horrified at the stuff that was found acceptable and even humorous in the early 2000s.
I personally love heights, even though it can potentially be dangerous, yet I scream and freak out if I see a cicada, which poses no risk to my life whatsoever. Everybody has different phobias and people should be more kind when it comes to people’s fears.
I wouldn't say that I have a fear of heights but when I get up somewhere high, I physiologically respond. I can't get to the edge of something if I'm up on a high balcony. My pulse races and I have to really focus on breathing when I drive across a high bridge. I know it's an irrational fear but I also know that's how I'm going to respond. I don't know how being suspended the high in the air would do for me but I'm never going to give it a try.
After watching your series, I now watch all reality TV shows like this so differently. Like I love Project Runway as a seamstress myself but Christian Serriano is the Mr. Jay of that show and I can now predict who is going home. They just had a designer call them on their bull because she's a successful costume designer outside the show and they just kept being so critical of her work. I knew she'd probably be going home but I was so happy for her calling out the hypocrisy
I remember when Christian was on Project Runway himself. He made comments telling his models not to eat, was rude to other contestants and when a model said she was in pain from her shoes I think he literally told her he didn't care. I HATE seeing how successful he has got as I remember him being vile.
The application, at least around cycle 8, directly asked for your fears. They knew going in "this girl is afraid of x" and planned it tgat way. Multiple times on this show.
For me Camille is so confident and calm, that they take it as rude just because they can’t get to her, they can’t shake her cool. That’s why they group against her.
All the episodes of ANTM makes me think that Zoolander movie was right: it's all about training beautiful slaves in order to make them do anything that the handler says even if that means get hurted, sleep with the boss or even die. In it's lighter path the fashion industry is about art, clothes, the beauty of people, lighting, portaits and so forth, but the dark path of it it´s "hey, if you want to succed sleep with me, or do whatever I want because you are nobody and I'm the boss. Do it or you'll be nothing". It's awful how they twist something beautiful, a way of art, into this.
BTW, I expected to see a video with some more post production, I mean without the wires like a kind of Matrix secuence but then I realised that they had to use green screen for that and not black environment. And I understand that they don't have the budget to make some kind of real Matrix.
Unfortunately, that's everything in life even not connected to art. It's about control access to fame fortune and programming people's minds with fame. No matter what the cost.
I’ve learned so much from your channel. Like: ❤ photographer/ model etiquette ❤️don’t go on shows like this ❤ don’t list your actual fears if you do😂 …etc.
Has Jessica reacted to the episode where Brooke gets eliminated the night of her high school graduation? That one still pisses me off so much. And then Tyra hears her crying to the girls about it and is like "do you know how many girls would want to be in your position right now?". UGH!
Tyra really wants these girls to bawl their eyes out in front of her for good TV. It has nothing to do wirh "emotion". Y'all saw how she reacted with Tiffany.
Tyra has a tendency to hate black models who aren't falling apart who are capable of keeping their emotions inside She uses them as punching bags and there's a real internalized problem going on there.
I think it was Eugena who said that those black models remind Tyra of Naomi in one way or another- Kelle, Eugena, Tiffany, Aminat, all of the black girls who get the Naomi-esque haircut and then some of the worst treatment. It’s nuts to me that Tyra’s still that hung up on it.
I'll be the only one to think that a lot of the judges' comments are tearing things down that there's no way the models can be aware of. If the picture was taken from a higher perspective, she has no way of knowing that her neck isn't showing in the picture.
Straight off I'm like "oh, cool, so this shoot would put me out of commission for the rest of the day. Great." I don't have photosensitive epilepsy, thankfully, but flashing lights do trigger migraines for me and this entire commercial is nothing but flashing lights. Hope none of the girls have photo-sensitivity! Then again, the judges would tell them to just push through. (Watching it on screen where I have a brighter background, it's not the whole of my visual field, and I'm able to pause and look away are much less intensive, but being there in person with the constant strobing? I'd be in bed for the rest of the day.)
Tyra Banks and the entire ANTM team need to go to jail. for everything that they have done with the participants of this show, I use and exploit them, harming both physical and mental health. the people involved in this show are criminals in the truest sense of the word.
I never really thought abt the pre-judgment challenges, but you're right. The results of these challenges *never* affect who goes home and never comes up again
Also you totally nailed it with the court jesters entertaining the kings and queens comment. The judging challenges were a hot mess and I’m glad they went away in later seasons.
Hopefully Tyra and whole crew will get cancelled after so many years. At least to be accountable for their unhealthy approach. Theme, I think like Matrix?
This "commercial" has to be influenced from the Matrix movie franchise, which is what is directly inspiring those black/latex-y looks (and the sunglasses). I think this is Cycle 2 (so 2003), and the second Matrix film was released in 2003.
Tyra always went harder on the Black girls during ANTM because, in my opinion, she felt threatened that they would “take her place” because she felt like she was The Token Black Model.
It’s not a great commercial… but April is great in it. Also, I love how the critique began with your thinking they would be running and fighting across a piece of paper, and it ended with you saying the chip bag they were fighting over looked like a piece of paper 😆
Yeah, Tyra always hates on the black models she has on the competition. Especially if they have a darker complexion. ( Naomi Campbell who Tyra is still threatened by) She feels threatened by them usually and can be seen in multiple seasons. Examples : example season with Alison
Yes! Where are the fake Fritos?! Oh, it’s a fake Matrix, so we need a really over the top dangling model shoot. This is such bad editing and concept. Yum, chips, yawn….
Janice is in my nightmares after all my years watching ANTM then I saw her show Janice Dickinsons Modeling Agency and it’s unhinged and deranged y’all. It’s a mess.
It’s like the producers said “you know what’s a great idea? Let’s give an unhinged former model with a substance abuse problem and narcissism her own show where she abuses young up and coming models!”
tyra was projecting so hard onto Camille, every single (moreso the darker skinned) black girl that came onto the show-Tyra would get Naomi flashbacks and have problems for no reason smh grow up Tyra
What I just LOVE about Tyra is how she painted Naomi as the bad guy for years and Naomi didn’t say anything….then all this is coming out about who the actual bad guy was/is.
The only time I remember Camille doing something mean was during the dinner with Tyra where she insinuated that Yoanna has an ED. I’m sure it was a production stunt as well though. They played her as the “aggressive black girl” for god knows what reason. The shows racism was strong this cycle.
I love that!!! And very true I believe, like when a commercial catches my attention while I'm fast forwarding past it and I pause to see what it's for just based on the imagery.
I felt bad for catie until how she treated Xiomara in the previous episode. Xiomara went out of her way to help Catie, only to have Catie stab her in the back. Thats who deserves a video.
I'm glad I never watched ANTM. All the "challenges" are beyond ridiculous, often have nothing to do with actual modeling, the judges are inconsistent with what they want out of the models, they body shame, they gaslight, they belittle, they're hypocritical and have either said or made the models do things that would've had most other jobs' HR departments start sweating. Tyra, in particular, is a TERRIBLE human being. I first saw her in Fresh Prince before I knew she was a model and liked her back then, but ever since seeing what she's like on TV, I'm willing to bet she's even worse IRL. I don't care how gorgeous she is or how good of a model she is, I have absolutely no respect for her whatsoever because she doesn't respect anyone else.
Thanks... now as an adult i can realize what felt wrong in the show and how they did their everything to get more traction for the show. The emotional damage done there cannot be unseen and should not be ignored. And i feel so bad for the girls who put their trust into this ...meat machine... for it only to be churned out as minced meat at the end. And those who survived it... i bet they too bear scars. Tyra used to seem awesome. Now she seems like a tyrant.
When Yoanna "convinces" the judges she is funny by flashing/mooning them, fairly certain another girl does something similar and gets ripped to shreds!!!!
For someone who was a victim of Sexual Assault and said it was her own father for years....Janice has some nerve saying a young woman looks 13 and a child prostitute. Like I never liked her...
'Gotta fight like there's only once bag of rollitas. But don't worry there's plenty rollitas to go around.' Think we need to fire the script writer. Wasn't this the episode where they were mad at a girl for buying allergy medicine?
This episode did not age well. Between having them say that line about wanting to die and saying that it should make everyone want you sexually to Janice saying that she looks like a child prostitute! Yikes. Very cringey
These are some of my favorite videos to watch on lunch break! Many of the models in Oliver Twist’s interviews have confirmed a lot of the things you theorize about the show. Judging panels take hours! Makes sense because they want to get content for whatever story they’re trying to push.
My favorite moment is Tyra trying to break Camille down but Camille is just staring back at her without flinching. Camille has an ad in Times Square she isn't far behind Tyra lol
