The MESSIEST Episode of ANTM I've Ever Seen... 

I love Bre speaking her mind and being totally honest about how she feels about the constant criticism. That was very brave of her to do. I bet a lot of ANTM contestants felt the same way

Anyone else think Janice is hammered in this? Like I’m getting “wine drunk at soccer practice vibes” from her

Janice in this ep reminds me of the ‘cool’ kids at school, who would joke around with you, but only on their terms - & then they’d be like, ‘why are you laughing? You’re so awkward.’ Etc. Classic bullying tactic (not that I’m still bitter! Lol)

You. Do not. Bind. With tape. It's super dangerous to bind with anything that wasn't specifically for binding. The pressure can cause nerve/tissue damage, broken ribs, you could faint from oxygen deprivation etc.

america’s next top model: we want to defy the harmful stereotypes about the modeling industry also america’s next top model: reinforces harmful stereotypes by bullying the models

Janice is someone who needs to be told "no" more often.

Janice Dickenson LIVES for drama and just deliberately stirs it up because she knows no one will stop her. Tyra talks a lot about single-handedly revolutionizing the fashion industry, modelling it after what SHE thinks looks beautiful. It's such a shame that she didn't take the opportunity to stop the cycle of abuse that models go through, instead dishing out further abuse under the guise of "well that's the way this industry is". For a start she could have operated closed sets rather than having the other models on the sidelines audibly calling a girl an old alcoholic, but that wouldn't make good TV. IDK, this show is so heavily edited that it's hard to tell. Maybe there was some constructive criticism about how to handle negativity and maintain good mental health... but I doubt it.

The irony of janice telling lisa not to critique the other girls when EVERYONE is criticizing Lisa because of her age.

Petition to have all of this done to the judges.

I love how when Lisa did the flaws challenge and she didn't shy away from embracing a "flaw" and the judges were like "wait no, not like that"

The way Janice was acting like the drunk uncle at family dinner all through the program

It’s interesting to me that they sent Diane home and didn’t even bring up the fact that she was literally CRYING IN PAIN but still KILLED that photoshoot. She’s a gorgeous woman and, in my opinion, it seems like they didn’t want to see a plus sized model get far in the competition- even tho her photos were waaay better than a lot of the other girls. Do better, ANTM.

Being a plus size girl is harder than being a black girl…? …Soooo you not gonna remember how you did Toccara (Cycle 3)??

Diana’s treatment pissed me off so much. They literally treated her as a stereotype and then booted her when they realized she’s a real person. They saw a latina “plus sized” woman and thought she should’ve been loud, fiery, and sassy and while quite literally putting her through physical torture. She SLAYED that photoshoot and has top 3 best picture but eliminated her anyways cause she was a little nervous and soft spoken. **** em.

What was awful in the 2000s is that bullying was not only normalized but glorified. Until, a girl named Amanda posted a RU-vid video about her ordeal before unaliving herself. That video went viral and showed the world that online bullying needs to stop. Kudos to Bre for standing up for herself.

So tired of them justifying abusing these girls verbally cause they’re “preparing” them for the real world. When all they’re doing is telling them to just accept verbal abuse and never stand up for themselves …it just seems like they enjoyed the power of it. And not to mention the mind games they played on these girls. The promotion of bullying and almost like disapproval of bonding/ comradeship….they never cared about helping these girls. And it sucks that I grew up watching this and feeding into these harmful messages disguised as positive/helpful.

Does anyone remember the episode where Jay and Tyra were bullying an Asian girl for having breast implants and they kept calling her a hoochie? I would like to see Jessica react to that episode if she hasn't yet

Did Tyra really say being plus size was harder than being black 😑😑 why can't she empathize without putting her own race down 🙄

Thing is....Lisa actually is an addict/alcoholic, and sought help years later. If that behaviour was already manifesting during the show, the other women should have been expressing concern, not making fun of her for it.

Gia Marie Carangi was the world's first supermodel, Gia can't say anything because she passed away from Aids at 26 years old in 1986..She was ,not you Janice. When Cindy Crawford got popular, they called her Baby Gia.If anyone doesn't know about her ,Angelina Jolie played her in the movie Gia...

"Master photographer" is a title Janice probably gave herself just like " world's first supermodel."

I wear a breast binder occasionally and it should never, ever hurt or make it hard to breathe. They must have bound down that poor girl's chest way too hard which is actually dangerous.

The "shrinking personality of the plus-size girl" is also a common theme across the seasons, which speaks to how the plus-size contestants are treated.

Bre spoke so professionally and kindly explaining how she felt. I don’t think she did anything wrong. Good on you bre !

The models: Lisa disses everyone! Also the models: sit on a couch, dissing Lisa specifically. "Healthy" is so subjective anyway but Lisa saying that she thinks she's healthy isn't a personal attack on anyone else, unlike the models on the couch specifically insulting her looks. But of course, we the audience are supposed to see Lisa as the "bad guy" and unsympathetic. (Also I know that the two on the couch talking about "Lisa needs a face lift" aren't the one who cut in with "Lisa disses everyone" but iirc, this season was edited to be very Lisa-versus-everyone.)

Model: "hey, I can't breathe." Mr. Jay: "don't ruin your pretty makeup! You're pretty!" Yeah, like she's crying because she doesn't feel pretty and not because *she can't breathe!*

The thing that made me laugh the hardest was Jay saying this photo shoot would be “edgy” bc I feel like he said that about every shoot

Love the fact that the middle aged woman with the most attitude is the one immediately saying that someone else has an attitude! What a total lack of self-awareness!

Janice was under the influence of something. I wouldn't be surprised if Tyra and the producers kept Janice's glass full because they knew it was a recipe for drama.

A photoshoot making fun of people who get plastic surgery...because the modeling industry has never bullied any models into getting surgeries they don't need or want. Right. Weird concept.

Like you always say, what part of being the "photographer" DID Janice actually take part of? The concept? Set design? Lighting? Props? Editing? Selecting the "top shots"? Like WHAT DID SHE DO? Besides just show up and click the camera around and cause a toxic work environment? Also the "plus size personality" is something Tyra says to basically EVERY plus size model. She expects them to all act in a certain sterotype of being loud, happy, and always bubbly. And if they aren't then they aren't "trying hard enough" to be there. So tired and toxic. As always another great video! ♡

I'M SORRY THEY BOUND HER DOWN WITH TAPE?! I know this was the early 2000s where this wasn't as common knowledge but THAT'S FRICKING DANGEROUS. At least it's not ace bandage but oh my god I'm screaming PROPER CHEST BINDERS EXIST, USE THOSE.

Welcome to another episode of ‘I can’t believe I lapped this up as a child’ and today…

Also, the way Mr. Jay was like "we're gonna poke some fun at people who get extreme plastic surgery".. That literally translates to "we're gonna bully people who have issues with insecurities and are so addicted to fixing their 'flaws' that they become blind to what they actually look like".

"being a plus size girl is harder than being a black girl" - There's a lot I could say about that quote. As someone who has experienced racism and colorism, as a very fit person, I definitely would not agree.

“Lisa’s like, I like vegetables” …. I’m done with you Jessica 🤣🤣🤣

You're probably the only person on RU-vid with 1million plus subs who doesn't give a "youtuber" vibe. You're realistic, and i feel like I'm watching a genuine person, not a brand. You don't try to be "organic/relatable" and i love that. I'm a Libra too who loves photography and if i were a professional photographer, my work ethic would be just like yours (apart from the basic code of conduct that every photographer should follow). I have been following you for years and have learnt so much from you. Keep rocking ♥️

That challenge in the judging room reminded me of the scene in mean girls where they say their flaws in the mirror. This challenge was a way to break the girls' confidence while disguising it as "hiding flaws".

Lisa has actually come out and told people that before this show, she had a lot of modeling experience already. She would give girls a lot of advice on the show but it’s a reality show so they probably only showed the parts where she gave advice in a “rude” way. And they ran with it.

Janice was causing drama on purpose. It's a show. This show has a ton of drama. And the creators probably told Janice to go stir some ish up.

Jay smugly looking directly into camera after the model was like “I can’t breathe” like he knew exactly what was going on

baby… Janice is DRUNK

I don't like that they did breast reduction. They said it was to make fun of plastic surgery, but some people genuinely feel better without breasts or with smaller breasts. Or if you have a disease and HAVE to get rid of them. So I don't think this is a good thing to make fun off, like a breast reduction is "too much". (Not even talking about using tape instead of an actual binder that was made for this kind of thing and endangering the model)

Bre is being so natural by not accepting a daily disrespect, makes all other girls look weird, everyone was so calm all the time, calmly accepting the insults

16:50 Jay's face after he "apologizes." He is clearly not sorry. He looks like he's upset that she's "being dramatic." Like he seems disgusted. How do I know? It's my face when I see Jay act like that

Jessica and Luxeria are my favorite ANTM commentaries. Always look forward to your hilarious takes!

Has Tyra ever taken a look at herself? If she wants to bring down and criticise the models she should remember how she has has changed physically over the years. Women are supposed to bring each other up xxx ❤️🇬🇧

I think Bre was already tough. She was brave enough to show her real emotions, talk about them and call judges out. I never liked when they pointed out someone was sad or tired, as though they needed to be happy all the time. They are not robots.

Binding that much can be very dangerous, the fact that they brushed her off after she told them that she couldn't breathe is insane.

Not the first supermodel, Twiggy is the first supermodel. Nobody knew Janice's name until she accused Sly Stallone of being her unborn child's father. (He wasn't)

Janice is serving us rolled up note and baggie vibes ⛷

Loved how English speakers say we need to work on it, but when they come here, nobody's saying them the same thing but for Spanish

It's a rainy winter afternoon, I just sat down with my mug of tea and saw this upload! Love the content Jessica!

No joke there's a paragraph on the Wikipedia page for Supermodel about Janice incorrectly stating she coined the term. The first known use of the word was actually in 1891.

According to ANTM, everyone is a photographer but really they just didn't want to pay for a professional that would do the job properly and actually WORK WITH the models. They would have brought models back from previous cycles to be photographers but were scared they'd do a better job than the "noted photographers" from the panel 😆😆

Why is it that native English speakers who only speak one language (badly a lot of the time 😂), are always the first to criticise other people's language skills?! We need to check ourselves!! I needed the subtitles but loved hearing Diane's Spanish, Latinas are scorching HOT ♨

You know it's rough, when Mr Jay is the one with the emotional support

I lost 150 Pounds and then the lab guy at my dr office told me I was funnier when fat! It made me feel like I was a zoo animal. It made me feel like as plus size people we are relegated to being entertainment for people.

While Lisa has said some problematic things and has been harsh... Lisa honestly was 110%a victim in ANTM. They treated her like crap in her season. The next one treated everyone like crap. She is hated by a portion of the fans because she won, even though she was always a very talented young woman. Lisa gets hated too much and never deserved to be attacked the way she was. Especially considering her upbringing.

Lisa was so bullied on this season and is still bullied by the fandom to this day. Literally recently I got Into an argument with someone on RU-vid for calling her old and alcoholic..... Still! In 2022! Lisa is amazing and living her best life. I am sorry so many people feel the need to be hateful.

Even as a kid, I really did not like Janice. I was so happy when she stopped being a judge. Watching this back, I completely understand why

I like how Janice is doing a shoot on extreme plastic surgery when she herself has blatant work done on her.

this is my analysis from knowing a bit of Tyra.. She has always commented how she was bullied when she was a girl and how girls made fun of her because of her size and height.. im sure she was vulnerable and probably angry. Now that she's so successful, i see her preying on these young girls and utilizing her "power" that she gained and abusing and bullying other girls!!! Im pretty sure she loves that.. she's terrible the way she is treating these girls

First of alllllllllll your accent is one of the reasons I love watching your channel. It’s cute af. On top of that, your Arabic sounds amazing-SUPER hard language to even start to learn.

"I NEED SOFT!!!!!" 😆😆 Not gonna lie. I cackled so hard at that. Janice is INSANE! "I NEED TO SEE SOME EXPRESSION IN YOUR FAAAAAAACE!"

I love how you left Kim and the other peanut gallery girl up on the screen while you talked about their bad behavior. Way to put them on blast . What you said is true . Those girls were behaving bad.

Your SquareSpace ad transitions make me laugh every time. 😂

A deep dive into this show revealed that former contestents reported these "on ice" periods while the cameras weren't rolling. They weren't allowed to interact with each other, not allowed to go anywhere. They compared it to a prison. This show was problematic on so many levels.

The thing with Lisa where Janice just went at her, was obviousy cause she could sense a strong confident girl and she wanted her to be put down... thats why she went at her right away cause she sensed that she couldnt control her, and thats why she needed the other girls to "help" her put her down cause she alone couldnt do it... shes a bully. Maybe not anymore but here she is.

I listened to Lisa on a recent podcast, and I think what she meant was mentally healthy, because she talked a lot about the contestants on the show that failed their psych evaluations but were still allowed onto the show. Apparently the contracts had like a 10 year gag order, so she hasn't been able to speak up until recently. Looking back at the show through today's lense, it's just awful.

It looks like the inspiration for this shoot was the work of Irving Penn with fashion editor Phyllis Posnick for Vogue. Steven Meisel and Steven Klein had similar plastic surgery concepts as well, it was a recurring topic across magazines at that time.

The way they’re reinforcing the models insecurities is so strange and damaging

I’d be terrified to work with Janice 😂. She’d look in my direction and I’d cry, even if I wasn’t the one modeling

thank you for putting the sponsor at the end of the video! ☺️ 🙏 i wish more content creators done this. i’m here for the CONTENT idc for the sponsors. lol.

If this were any other profession, all of this happening (the comments from all sides, the unprofessionalism of the drama shitstirring, the personal attacks and slander, the unsafe work conditions), it would be harassment and lead to written notices/firings. It's absolutely disgusting.

I feel so sorry for Diane. By no stretch of the imagination is she plus sized. Also, having your flaws and insecurities highlighted and then be criticized for how you feel about your own 'flaws'?

I love your sense of humor, and your delivery. You are a doll! Thank you for the smiles and the "mmmmhmmmm, yeah OK Tyra." 's. 💜

This is the episode I was waiting for you to react to Jessica. So problematic as you mentioned in the title from having the girls and Janice gang up on Lisa due to the producers to Tyra's problematic comments towards both Diane and Bre. They really tried to make Bre feel bad about herself when she was being open and honest about the comments they would make at judging and when she called out the judges they put her in the bottom to punish and warn her. Like you've mentioned the girls can never win, when they speak up they are combative but when they're quiet they get labelled as boring. Very glad that fans of the show back then are seeing how problematic the show is today. Keep up the good work Jessica!

I think that Lisa is very competitive and it can come across as harsh, but what we don't see is how Lisa is provoked into defending herself and then attacked for doing so.

They got rid of the bilingual queen bc she stood up for herself. Tyra didnt want to get rid of her punching bag

If any professional photographer acted like Janice did in this episode, they wouldn't last long in the industry

LADY!!! Why do you NOT have YOUR OWN modeling show??? I found one of your videos and now I’m subscribed and binge-watching your whole channel!!! I ABSOLUTELY ADORE your quirky personality, your knowledge of the industry, your commenting, spotting our strengths and weaknesses in EVERYONE (NOT just the models), and SO MUCH MORE!!! I watch your videos FOR YOU… NOT Tyra Banks! She is SOOO YESTERDAY! YOU ARE THR FUTURE!!! Go get it girl! I LOVE YOOOU!!! ✨💖🤟😃🤟💖✨

This sounds so dangerous, literally. Binding is something that has to be done very carefully, you can't just use any material to do it, and you always need to leave room for the comfort of breathing, even if its for a very short while on a photoshoot. At the time probably less people knew about that in the mainstream, but breathing is a basic priority for anyone, I have no idea why they did any of this. What an absolute mess.

They need to do a season were the panel members and hosts and any one who was a judge be the contestants, and then bring back the past contestants who were done the worst become the judges and photographers and creative directors. Put Tyra and all them through exactly what they did to these girls.

As someone who wears a chest binder I felt worried when I saw the bit about taping breasts. Sure, it's just for the duration of the photoshoot, but you can damage your ribcage and breast tissue very easily by binding/taping wrong or for too long. If it hurt so much she was crying and couldn't breathe then I hope she went to get her tissue and ribs checked afterwards.

I speak fully 3 languages total, and I always get a little embarrassed when startle on my words, or have a noticeable accent (mostly in my last spoken languages but sometimes in my usual main language). But at least I'm proud that I know more than 1 language.

Janice Dickenson is a rick and morty character

I hated Janice so much. The way she treated people was just disgusting.

Americas next top model honestly dropped the ball so hard with this show. They really had the opportunity to create a safe and encouraging space for women and models. For everyone to bring each other up and re-define stereotypes in the modeling industry. Instead they really leaned into all of the negative stereotypes that come with working in the modeling industry. I am really hoping that there’s a modeling show in the future that doesn’t drop the ball as hard as Tyra did. Like yeah. There are a lot of people who will have awful or negative things to you, but with knowing that why would you continue to bring people down? Like you see the problem, know it’s a problem, and keep doing it. I honestly didn’t even realize how bad this show was until I started watching these videos and I like trauma blocked all the awful things that were being said to these women. I too was also used to the men and people in my life bringing me down and I got so used to it I didn’t even see it until I became an adult and was on my own. In a world that’s already so awful and unkind to us why not just be kind to one another and understanding. I think the show would have been even more popular if they had actually supported women and models.

People who have to call out/bring down down others in the midst of them complimenting themselves, are the most insecure of them all. So yes, what Lisa said was a diss. She could’ve just said “I’m extremely healthy” and proceeded to talk about her routines that make her so healthy.

I've heard you say a couple times, how they won't be able to use these photos, so I can't wait to hear you talk about it. ☺️

I do have a problem with the "I'm healthier than the other girls"-part. I don't think anyone should ever comment on someone else's health or compare them to oneself. When people did that to me in the past it was pure eating disorder fuel, not to mention how it made me feel about my mental illnesses and physical inflictions. Years have passed, but I still remember those comments whenever I eat

Lisa is not offensive, just full of herself. I'd be offended if someone went "I'm healthier than the other girls". It's like saying " I'm smarter than the rest of em" and not expect people to be offended.😕

These judges honestly thought that being a judge meant to be judgmental. 🙄

4 mins in and Janice is too much already 😫 🤣. From what I have seen on ANTM & Janice Dickinson modle agency show she has chaotic energy. She's happy then she's disgusted. She's crying then she's jumping in a fountain. She's calling her models whores then she is telling them they are too sensitive and cry.

watching these videos has been a past time of mine to do while I sit and edit photos (that and binge watching Tyler Henry videos). I used to binge ANTM and remember thriving on the drama of what the next episode would bring. Now as an adult I am just like 'those girls deserved so much better and I hope they're in a better place now than they could have every imagined'

Imagine talking over twiggy as some white man who’s never have to fight for anything.

You are so on point with your criticism of this show. Thinking the same thing breaking people down, this ain’t marine boot camp.

Did anyone catch they said they were poking fun at people who go to the extremes with plastic surgery but one of the "surgeries" was breast reduction...a procedure usually done for medical necessity...?

I hate the idea of a "plus-size personality." It plays into the trope that bigger people better be funny or entertaining because they don't have the body to fall back on. Hate it.