Monster Hunter Lore | Alatreon 

@Team Darkside, is Alatreon inherently evil Fatalis?

I occasionally rewatch these lore videos and some other stuff from your guys channel, and I've just wondered, its been quite a long time since you did any MH Lore videos. Now I get that these are big productions and require a lot of research too. But I was just wondering if there are any plans to do more lore videos? Since we're in Rise/Sunbreak era now, maybe we could see something about Malzeno and/or Crimson Valstrax?

Can you Take my Account and kill altreon for me i dont manage to defeat this dragen🤣

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It also shows how he's aware of his abilities.

Bold of you to assume it has a flame sac

Honestly I assumed it was just water infused with dragon element in it which made it burn out of the water when connecting with the fire. This made sense to me because Alatreon's Icicles have dragon element inside them as well and react to the thunder exploding in the process, it seems dragon element is very volatile but yes, that could be the case too.

@@ruiribeiro8010 If you look closely at the water pits that Alatreon creates you'll notice they looks oily

@@matteolizzio exactly, dragon element is dark and would give it that black shiny look so it still makes sense to me.

The Alatreon Dominator! One of the best lbgs in the game.

And a very nice vanity longsword

And an urge to destroy cabbages in mass.

Ayo check out this dude. They found the element of surprise.

And that absolute awesome Gs

Foolishness Hunter.

Third.He ditched bcs of fatalis.Which is most probable imo.

@@myatthu7165 he doesn't

I thought it was because they were rivals, and wanted Xeno to wait until he was a Safi in order have a full on battle with him

why would Alatreon, a Dangerous First Class Monster fulfill a lower monster's role like Nergigante?

Dalamadur on world would be incredible

rotten vale already has a dalamadur

@@FizzleIsGaming we want one that is alive tho 🤣

Dalamadur IS the Rotten Vale! The whole area is a Dalamadur corpse

@@hisholiness4537 i know, thats why

3u gang

isnt he a Fatalis subspecies?

@@marksullivan00 u kinda could say that

@@marksullivan00 No, it isn't. He just has Fatalis skeleton composure (and some animations), he isn't connected to him.

My favorite outta the black dragons not counting disufora

As I watched the video, I knew some things weren't accurate (specifically the "broken horn = weaker ult blast") but hey, we all make mistakes.

@@Sentient_Bread_Slice To clarify on these: 1) Alatreon's '4 forms' are a bit weird, its base 'form' I wouldn't personally count as a unique form - and it seems it always defaults to 'Dragon' whenever it can, or at least builds up to it. Those roars after an elemental KO are it reapplying energy to itself so it can continue its assault on you. Some would also say its 'flying attacks' are a form unto themselves based on terminology back in Gen 3, but that's not a true shift in powers. Put simply Alatreon will shift from converting dragon to fire or ice for a good period of time, switch it to the opposite with kickback, or have it all burn out into Dragon. He's a jack of all trades when it comes to abusing elemental weaknesses. 2) Yep, that's 100% accurate; gameplay wise it'd be unfair if he can just swap back and forth with ease, but lorewise Alatreon's got no bars held on how it wants to freeze you in one moment and then boil you alive in the next. It's what makes him so damn dangerous, the guy will break your homeostasis over time - or just tactically shift elements to avoid damage. Yes; Alatreon is legit intelligent enough to have those kinds of deliberate actions. He's a smart antisocial lad. 3) Breaking the horns seems to stagger his ability to shift elements, at least in gameplay mechanics - a crucial fact to know so he doesn't switch to an element you can't counter and allows it to properly build up stored energy to nuke you. Due to the abundance of dragon we CAN surmise that its abundance of dragon makes elemental discharging rather frequent - and with enough elemental damage it can basically halt that huge burst of a chemical reaction we all dread called Escaton Judgement. And as for the other elders; gameplay wise only elders that can be encountered on normal expeditions change the weather (aside from Nergigante). Lorewise, you can expect blizzards, ashfall, and thunder storms at the same time if Alatreon were to show up in a biome for one of the rare moments it probably needs to eat (there is no lore stating it eats rocks like Teostra or whatnot - so its possible it has an absurdly high metabolism that it requires to convert that much dragon energy, but it still needs to eat everyone once in a while) - though at this point its theorycrafting based on very little information we got about the Blazing Black Dragon.

Kecha Wacha: excuse me WTF

Except for Fatalis, he just hates everyone

Alatreon is probably one of the coolest monsters ive ever fought in MH aka "Avatar Dragon" besides silver rathy being my number one

alatreon my favorite monster ;)

Faaax

Similarly to Shara actually. If you have rocksteady up and Shara does the beam thing, you're fucked.

@@hyperion9793 yes, that is rocksteady in a nutshell

@@hyperion9793 I saw a video of someone with rocksteady use the lance run attack through the beam, up to shara and stagger him

Rocksteady in general is a double edged sword. Gotta when to actually clutch

@@fenncarr5602 pretty sure the beam just reflected off their massive balls of steel as they charged a laser beam. And staggered Shara.

I never beat him in MH3U

@@talon532 event alatreon is fucking impossible alone

@@DrunkedOwly nope I did it

Capcom gave the black salamander a shit ton of plot armour to keep him kinda on top

Probably because Fatalis is supposed to be the toughest dragon and they'd reason that Fatalis probably outranls Alatreon in terms fo physical strength and resistance. Fatalis can probably also produce hotter and desdlier flames compared to Alatreon and we all know how a move done by a Specialist is a class higher than the same move performed by a All-Arounder.

And surprisingly, Safi'Jiiva was supposedly meant to be Fatalis's rival. As translated from the Dive to MHW Iceborne book, again, apparently. Also, Alatreon came to the valley destroy the cocoons, not because he ran away from Fatalis, like what many are saying.

Have you seen Dhisufiroa? He is alatreon but white fatalis power (I’m not kidding when I say that, he has the 2nd most power of anything) but yea I guess you could consider fatalis, alatreon’s dad

Oh yea....dad black dragon is fatalis so no wonder you never see fatalis with alatreon

@@himalayas5908 omfg 😂😂😂😂

@@himalayas5908 that's kinda fucked up lol

Then white Fatalis is the badass anime old man black dragon

Have you seen Lockston's video on what the Dragon type in Pokemon really is? Basically it's raw arcane magic. The Pokemon Dragonite can learn Fire, Ice, Water and Electric type moves. With that in mind, I like your idea of Dragon magic. Maybe, though I highly doubt it, Alatreon came from the Pokemon world. Perhaps it was banished like Giratina. Or perhaps it is a creation from the ancient civilization.

@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 I really didn't drew the connection until you mention this, but then i watched the part of that video about classical dragons I can see where you are coming from. At least the dragon type is established very similiarly in terms of the mystic part. Funny thing is, you could think of an equivalent Pokemon in the MH universe for examples like Shantien and Dalamadur, even Deviljho which is just a 'T Rex that breathes dragon element', so pretty much Tyrantrum then. And their 3 star weakness? The Dragon element, which in the Pokemon universe is also most effective against its own self, apart from all other physical elements. It wouldn't surprise me if the two franchises conceptualized the element in a very similar fashion way back then.

Dragon elements has always had some anabolizer properties, it is able to suppress other elements while powering up the phisical strenght of the user(like deviljho), the lockstin video on drgon type is really interesting as he brands dragon element as an elements that contains and manipulates other elements wich is present both in pokemon and monster hunter. I find it interesting that dragon element has a plasma like property when compressed or interacting with other elements check the examples= valstrax: it uses dragon element crompressed with air to make plasma jets of energy and even projectiles, this means that dragon element likes react with elements and this interaction creates a massive discharge of energy deviljho= while we know that jhojo boi uses it to power its body the most interesting thing is its turf wars, notice that when he does a beam clash with other elder dragons the dragon elements behaves like it does with valstrax, it absorbs the elements and then it discharges a massive explossion that knocksout both deviljho and the elder dragon. the is also the interesting factor that picklessaurus dragon element is more gas based rather than energy based wich means that it can reash plams like properties but it lacks the proper reactions to become plams like heat pressure, this is confirmed dues to savage debiljho dragon breath attacks that are more compressed and have small but really bright bolts of plasma dragon energy stygian zinogre: it it intersting that zinogre, an originaly eletric monster, can work with dragon energy just as well, it seems that batery like components are able to store dragon element, zino and stygian zino have this quirk that they need to get their elemental properties from bugs that generate that element, and since stygian can only use plasma dragon enegy it means that something is reacting iside its body to store the elments just like a batery storing electricity then we have alatreon wich can use all elements, the thing I love about esctatons judgement is that it really explains how alatreon can change temperatures without damaging it self, dragon active mode acts as a supressor to make fire active and ice active change less radical, dragon active cools alatreon while in fire active bu it heats him on ice active, witch explains why we can make escaton judgement less dangerous by either using the opposite elements or using dragon element on alatreon. the phisical properties of dragon elements have an interesting consistency and I wonder if there is soemthing that behaves like it irl

So what does that make Valstrax? He has so much dragon energy, he uses it to propel himself at incredibly high speeds, and he can shoot dragon energy rockets that explode on impact

My guess is that he represents the balance and changing of all elements and normally avoid all life forms due to its volatile nature and doesn't actually want to fight normally but only does so to remain in solitude so the environment is kept reasonably stable, but with hunters showing up he uses his nature to fight, as he doesn't otherwise hold back.

Oh god yes

It exist.. it's called dhisufiroa

In 3U, I defeated Alazreon in the final quest of Moga. Difficult, but manageble.

now hes elementally stable now somehiw

@@FriendlyNeighborhoodCrusader I would love to see him again. I have 3 ultimate at home but didnt fight him on 3u but I would love to see a new crazy dire miralis fight. Like the type of crazy and epic fight that they gave fatalis in world+ some new lore and information on this beauty of a creature would come with that too. Anyways I cant wait for a dire miralis return. He might actually be my favourite black dragon.

@@FriendlyNeighborhoodCrusader sorry to disappoint you, but the developers themselves said they cannot do Dire Miralis justice without underwater combat and thus it's required for its return. Unless a future MH games has underwater combat, we won't be seeing it. However, that means if one of the next games does have underwater combat, Dire Miralis would basically be confirmed, because the devs really want to bring Dire Miralis back too. Also, Dire Miralis uses the Fatalis skeleton. It's body is also rigged exactly like Fatalis, which sometimes makes its supposedly solid tubes on its back stretch like Fatalis' wings.

I remember reading somewhere that the devs are bringing back underwater combat but they didn’t say when, my guesses are that mh6 will give water combat another shot and if it succeeds it becomes a staple like mounting

@@gurburgandr would be amazing :)

@@lukasgroller1970 yeah, all they would have to do is make the hunters a bit mobile, ever since gu and world we’ve had better control of the camera so now they just gotta make hunters somewhat mobile and people will most likely like it

It's not an oversight, they're referring to disrupting Alatreon's ability to shift between elements. That's why when you break the horn, Alatreon can't shift to the opposing element, it has to return to what it started with. For example, if it starts with Ice Active, if you break the horn, it goes back to Ice after the Judgement. If you don't, it switches to Fire Active.

@@ES-dp6tw they literally say weakens the nova in both games and this video the nova still kills you if you break the horns and don't get the dps check

correct

Also, breaking the horns doesn't stop its ability to change actives, it merely stops the attempt. No horns to break = infinite active changes

Fatalis is seen as the most dangerous because of its proximity to civilization and its past of destroying human lands. Dire chills in 1 place that is an ocean and has not actively sought out humans and alatreon is a neet who sits alone listening to linkin park. Fatty is definatly not the most powerful in destructive force by a longshot but he is the closest to minegrade and dundorma.

The ceadus is basically the final monster in MH3 and MH3U for the Moga Woods story with it's other version the Golden beard Ceadus as the HR6 rank up quest

So could alatreon be weakened in this game?

@@apexpacker467 No. Most likely is that Alatreon had an unfortunate run-in with Fatalis and barely escaped, which explains the nerfed Alatreon from Dawn's Triumph.

Xeno'jiiva was the one who was luring monsters close to its pupae, that's why World's story fixated on elders not behaving as they should and congregating by the Elder's Recess. Safi'jiiva is an adult and no longer dependent on luring monsters to it since it can now reshape its environment to suit itself, as detailed in its special assignment.

@@apexpacker467 as far as i know Safi doesn't hunt and only feeds of of Bioenergy that He Absorbs from the Everstream . Thats why He choose the secluded Valley . A Hidden place that leads deep down into the earth as Close to the Everstream as possible . Wouldn't be the First elder with a weird diet Kirin only consumes droplets of water that it finds on plants Gogmazios only eats Sulfur/gunpowder List goes on

@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 If i remember right (and i Hope i dont ) they somewhere Said in the Game that alatreon Search for a place to hide from fatalis . So the First was at full strength but The second one was Most likley either to slow to avoid fatalis or tried to Battle fatalis . Im hoping for the second because one black Dragon instantly running away from another is kinda meh. But then again alatreons dont really Like anything living Near them so maybe the First one choose the secluded valley because there didn't live anything (besides Safi somewhere deep down )

I think they are talking lore wise

Kind of in Tri and P3rd, but in other games he was in it tends to get outclassed by other weapons though

@@EdgarGomez-oo2ge yeah i know. It's just that in iceborne it was kinda a joke. That's why I commented that

I don’t expect him to comeback in the next gen but the future games with THIS idea, makes me wanna fight him again in the future even more.

Just what i was thinking, and its possible as well, with all the stuff they are added from mh3u.