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Moog Sub 37 vs Sub Phatty: Deep Dive Comparison 

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Moog Sub 37 vs Sub Phatty: Deep Dive Comparison
Are you deciding between a Mood Sub / Subsequent 37 and a Moog Subsequent 25 / Phatty? With this video I aim to go over everything that makes these two analog synthesizers similar, yet surprisingly different.
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Комментарии : 71   
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Saw you guys were enjoying my synth comparison videos so thought I'd do another one! let me know which one is your favorite in the comments!
@AliKozy
@AliKozy 2 года назад
What a fantastic video! Love them both for the same reasons mentioned at the end of the video!
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks so much Ali! Appreciate the comment
@alfiecattell8623
@alfiecattell8623 3 года назад
Wonderful comparison Miles, totally agree with every point.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Thanks for watching Alfie!
@wolfpackpresets
@wolfpackpresets 3 года назад
Thanks for great comparison!
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Thx for watching!
@tomroche923
@tomroche923 3 года назад
Gotta love some synth content!
@fuenstock
@fuenstock 3 года назад
I’ve owned many synths, and still the subsequent 37 is one of my top 3. It just does something special I can’t explain.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
100% agree! Even next to my Moog Matriarch the 37 just really has it's own special place. The workflow in particular is great. Full review/thoughts coming soon if you are interested!
@62borneo
@62borneo 2 года назад
What a fantastic job! You just convinced me to hold on to my beloved sub phatty! Thank you!
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 2 года назад
Glad to hear! it's a great synth and i used it on so many tracks :)
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 3 года назад
Your video starts with your Sub37 and your Prologue in the same position as how I have both of mine. The Sub37 was the first analogue synth that I bought when I started to rebuild my studio with analogue gear. I chose it over the Sub Phatty. I think it was the best choice.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
That's awesome to hear! Yea I decided to keep the 37 over the Phatty in the end, but it was a tough choice.
@emilianolasalle
@emilianolasalle 7 месяцев назад
Moog little phatty its the best of this synths in sound talking. What a beast
@TaklaMakanMusic
@TaklaMakanMusic 3 года назад
I think you made the right decision. Increased features and less hidden parameters versus marginally better if more limited sound palette.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Thanks for watching I definitely agree as well! I will never get rid of my 37 it's a total classic :)
@mitchelstephen7536
@mitchelstephen7536 4 месяца назад
An excellent comparison. Someday I should do a video comparing my Jupiter 6 against my MKS 80. Very similar on some sounds, but very different on others.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 месяца назад
Please do! I'd totally watch that. Welcome to my synth channel, check out my newer videos, the quality is much better!
@user-eb4sm5jm9z
@user-eb4sm5jm9z День назад
The sub 37 makes you want to over drive it more and it does sound a bit darker , what I’ve found is resist that temptation, and you’ll get a more cleaner classic sound. Set oscillators at 10 o’clock and don’t use multi drive (maybe use a tiny bit of feedback it’s softer ) and then EQ , pushing upper mids and highs , and roll off a bit of low end . Then it sits better in a mix and sounds brighter & cleaner.
@rabbitnoize
@rabbitnoize 3 года назад
I used to polychain the subs. Wonderful synths❤️
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
So cool! Can you polychain a phatty to a 37? Thanks for watching.
@rabbitnoize
@rabbitnoize 3 года назад
@@MilesAwayOfficial indeed!
@vincenzoaquila167
@vincenzoaquila167 2 года назад
No way
@xntricity6446
@xntricity6446 3 года назад
Thanks for the side by side demo. I have a sub phatty but I have been looking at the sub37 since release. I can't afford to have both so my sub has to go unfortunately.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
That was exactly why I made this video! You won't regret the 37. The Beat Frequency on the front panel alone makes the 37 a winner.
@inspir.edmusic
@inspir.edmusic 3 года назад
Didn't have the cash for the 37, but I have a Sub Phatty coming in the mail next week and I'm super excited!
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Exciting!! How are you liking it?
@inspir.edmusic
@inspir.edmusic 3 года назад
@@MilesAwayOfficial It's fantastic!
@KordTaylor
@KordTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Thank you. This is a great video. Sad that the 37 seems a bit noises and all that,
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 9 месяцев назад
Its really not bad at all! If anything it adds some character. But both are great. Hold on now since Moog is gone...
@beatzclinic2043
@beatzclinic2043 2 года назад
Hi bro. I need a in depth tutorial on how to use each function on the Moog Sub Phattys chat sheet, with sound examples. What do you suggest? Thanks man.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 2 года назад
I do a full sub Phatty walk through! If you want global settings though manual is best bet
@cronenbergj
@cronenbergj Год назад
I Read in the Moog Forums that using a TRS cable instead of a TS cable on the 37 can reduce the "hiss" largely...
@nomoresl8388
@nomoresl8388 Год назад
Thanks for the great video. Im planning buying a Subsequent 37 (new or used) or a Sub 37 (used). In this video you use a Sub 37. Have you tried the Subsequent? Are there any big differences between them to make you decide one over the other?
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial Год назад
I've never owned the Subsequent sorry! But I went with the original sub 37 as it seems a bit more growly/distorted/less clean to my ears from demos.
@nomoresl8388
@nomoresl8388 Год назад
@@MilesAwayOfficial thanks for your response.
@nateharlow1388
@nateharlow1388 3 года назад
I think on the Sub 25 they made both the sub oscillator and the multi drive more like the 37 because mine gets noticeably louder and more gritty when I engage the multi drive than what the Sub Phatty is doing here. Not that it sounds bad mind you! Still sounds great. But when you demonstrated the 37’s sub oscillator and multi drive, I thought that sounded just like my 25. So maybe that’s one of the things they changed. Thanks for the demonstration! Learning a lot!
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
That's really interesting! Thanks for the comment! The sub OSC just sounds so fat on the 37 so that's a great change :)
@nateharlow1388
@nateharlow1388 3 года назад
@@MilesAwayOfficial Absolutely! And yeah it really is, I totally love the one on the 25, it adds so much depth and makes it so creamy. I really wanted the Sub 37, who doesn’t LoL. It’s gotta be one of the best keyboards in existence. But.. Its not perfect as nothing is. For me it’s too big (have to travel a lot for gigs and practice), it’s too expensive, and honestly the other reason I didn’t get it is because I was afraid I was going to just rely too much on the 256 presets instead of actually learning how to make my own sounds. I read they upgraded a few things on the 25, so that’s the one I went with and it definitely did not disappoint. Definitely recommend it for anyone who can’t afford a 37 but still wants the same kind of sound :) Thanks again man!
@N4SixString
@N4SixString 3 года назад
Do you feel the subsequent 37 would bring it closer to the sub phatty sound wise ? Or it's still a bit different. Big props though on noticing the difference. Everyone always just tells me they are the same engine when in fact Ive always known I could hear a difference with the sub phatty.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Just saw this! Thanks for the comment. To be honest I still think the Phatty would sound different, the Subsequent just has more headroom. But I would love to try if I could get my hands on both!
@wondercell9772
@wondercell9772 3 года назад
Do you recommend sub 37 for beginner synthesis?
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Yes absolutely! It's the best mid priced synth in terms of logical workflow. Phatty is great for beginners too
@KosmoDeuz
@KosmoDeuz 3 месяца назад
“But here It goes to 12 “😅😅😅
@cybernitemusic
@cybernitemusic 3 года назад
Yeah, true. Virtual synths just can’t do that filter sweep.
@thirfytash7286
@thirfytash7286 3 года назад
I think you can plug the headphone out of the phatty to its own input to get that feedback distortion like the 37, at least what I've read on it
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Cool! Great tip! Didn't know that.
@nilespeterclemens8328
@nilespeterclemens8328 2 года назад
I’ve heard of people doing that with the voyager but from what I’ve read, I wouldn’t dare try that on mine.
@lovd9722
@lovd9722 3 года назад
does anyone know if the sub sequent 25 sounds the same as the 37?
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
I've only played the 25 briefly, but from my knowledge it's much more similar to the Sub Phatty!
@lovd9722
@lovd9722 3 года назад
Miles Away Okay thanks. Because i heard from other people, that it’s a mix of both. but idk
@cybernitemusic
@cybernitemusic 3 года назад
Hmmm I kinda like the grit of the Sub Phatty dare I say. Maybe I’m biased, I own the Sub Phatty. I’ve kinda always wanted a Subsequent 37 so wonder how it compares to this Sub 37...
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
I agree! Sub Phatty sounds SLIGHTLY better, but I still sold it because i love the features of the Sub :)
@Massproduce201
@Massproduce201 3 года назад
Thanks for doing this, thinking of selling my Sub Phatty for a Sub 25.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
My pleasure! My advice: save a couple hundred more and get a used Sub 37. It's just so worth it with how discounted they can get on CL / Ebay Hang around for more synth content :)
@AntonioOliveira-em4cd
@AntonioOliveira-em4cd 3 года назад
Can you do a sub25 vs sub phatty?
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
I don't have the sub 25 but I will do a review if I can ever get my hands on a borrowed one!
@DJDURBANDAN
@DJDURBANDAN 3 года назад
Sun 37 or little phatty with a sub phatty? 1 vs 2?
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 2 года назад
Yo! Just saw this Danny. I’d say it depends if you care about modulation. The Phatty line sounds great but lack the modulation of the 37, which is why I sold my Phatty
@Thebirdfromreo
@Thebirdfromreo 3 года назад
Sub 37 or little phatty. Which one should I get?
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Sub 37 imho! It's one of the greatest laid out synths ever made, the sound can be beautiful or evil and distorted, and it's the best modern monosynth to this day. Little phatty only wins in terms of classic Moog sound. Much more limited.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 4 месяца назад
I thought the Sub37 only had pink noise … no white? I would have assumed the Sub Phatty would be the same … ? Edit: yes, I was correct - they both only generate pink noise - not white.
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 4 месяца назад
Yep I mis spoke! Thanks for watching, check my newer videos they are much better :)
@sarragiannaki5522
@sarragiannaki5522 3 года назад
the moog sub 37 wins the moog sub phatty thats obvious because is the upgrade of the moog sub 25 and the 25 is the upgrade of the moog sub phatty but you CANT say tthe sub phatty is a bad synth
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
Absolutely agreed! Stick around for more synth videos :)
@keepingfitness727
@keepingfitness727 2 года назад
Omg. Anybody can turn knobs and play keys. How about going into shift mode and explaining all the parameters and showing what they do.
@Mclennnan
@Mclennnan 5 месяцев назад
uh ah we grab the button.... WHAT BUTTON?! Useless teachings.
@Thebirdfromreo
@Thebirdfromreo 3 года назад
Sub 37 or little phatty. Which one should I get?
@davidvochocjr1005
@davidvochocjr1005 3 года назад
Sub 25 ;-)
@MilesAwayOfficial
@MilesAwayOfficial 3 года назад
37 imho! The little fatty sounds nice but is far too limited in my opinion. if you really want that classic mode sound and don't like the modern sound of the 37, get a grandmother
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